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Finger-Friendly Friends (FFF) v1.0 alpha 2 is available!

Everyone: please do NOT post in this thread. Post here instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340227
I promised you some more candy... well, here it is!
There are a couple of bugfixes and a new feature: "Send my position". If you have a GPS receiver in your telephone (such as the HTC Kaiser), you can send your position to your contacts! FFF will track your position and generate a map in Google Maps that can be opened on a PC (mobile phone browsers typically don't support Google Maps. Perhaps Opera 9 will).
It will also create a short link, so your friend won't have to type a zillion-character long address.
Address is http://www.jotto.no/fff
Enjoy!
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Edit: v1.0 alpha 3 is now available. Have fun!

wow,what a surprising feature. I'm gonna test it right away!!

Wouldn't work on my Vario 3 unless I used Live Search to fix my GPS position first. Cool how it knows where I am with just that short link though. Nice app.

yoda6 said:
Wouldn't work on my Vario 3 unless I used Live Search to fix my GPS position first. Cool how it knows where I am with just that short link though. Nice app.
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Did you get an error message? What's stated in the "Status" field?

sweet and brilliant ideas!! downloading right now!!!

Looks like this is the new thread for FFF, so I'm going to copy what I posted in the original thread as my comments actually pertain to the most recent version of the software (downloaded Alpha 2 earlier and installed before making these comments in the original thread):
Dwimmerlaik said:
By far the best contact app I've seen developed for Windows Mobile yet. A couple of suggestions:
Allow for scrolling via TouchFlo when there are more contacts that match the search criteria than those displayed on the screen (i.e. the same condition that results in the "more" at the bottom right).
Definitely enable a setting or make it a default function for the installer to modify the registry to make this the default contact application. I don't mind tweaking the registry, but not everyone is comfortable with that.
You have a function to send current GPS location to a friend, how about doing the opposite and have a function to obtain directions from Google Maps from your current location to the Home or Work address of the contact?
In the same direction as #3, I would suggest adding two additional icons to the screen that are labled as "Home Address" and "Work Address". I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to locate some icons that would match the current default set. Clicking on either would display the address and then provide an option to obtain directions to that address from your present location.
Other than those suggestions, great application and I'm looking forward to watching its development. I love it!
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hmmm need to get outdoors tmw to test the GPS function..
cant scroll down the list of contacts via dpad? and.. cant see all matches of more than certain number?

Jahnotto,
It froze a couple times, but I got it to work. I think it froze because I tried to exit out of it as it was searching for satellites. Constructively, I think the gps is kind of a neat feature but from a practical standpoint it's more of a "hey...look what my phone can do" more than a required feature. Some of the other suggestions listed would make this a serious go-to tool.
-list and scroll through all the names feature
-operating d-pad scrolling
-corporate and/or middle name search ( I have a bunch of 'Z' entries that I can't look up, they are stored on my SIM...maybe that's why)
-when you get a name isolated to one name, ability to press send key and dial directly
Are these possibilities?
Again, just trying to help and be constructive.
Thank you.

do you need a data plan to send position to a friend?

thomassster said:
do you need a data plan to send position to a friend?
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What do you mean? What's a data plan?

Update: Alpha 3 is now available! A mobile-friendly map link is generated in addition to the full-blown Google Maps map. I have also fixed a bug on the map link.
I have got lots of suggestions to improvements. I appreciate that, but I haven't had the time to reply you all! I'd better spend my time developing this, huh? ;-)
I will not add any additional features in this release. I will now concentrate on fixing bugs and improving general usablity (for example company name search, scrolling, etc, etc).

thomassster said:
do you need a data plan to send position to a friend?
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It's setup so that you are just sending the coordinates in an email with a link to googlemaps. No more data than sending an email.

roverman said:
It's setup so that you are just sending the coordinates in an email with a link to googlemaps. No more data than sending an email.
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I'm connecting to the url-shorten service at http://metamark.net/ to shorten the url. It's not much data, though - 100 bytes back and forth or so.

Very Very Very COOL!
Bad thing is that when you send your GPS position via email, it uses "Outlook Email". Problem is, I dont have Outlook Email, I only use Gmail so I cant send an email with my position since I cant seem to change it to use Gmail (or another account other than Outlook).

grizzley said:
Very Very Very COOL!
Bad thing is that when you send your GPS position via email, it uses "Outlook Email". Problem is, I dont have Outlook Email, I only use Gmail so I cant send an email with my position since I cant seem to change it to use Gmail (or another account other than Outlook).
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Same goes for the regular "send email" feature. I will let the user select the email account.

jahnotto said:
Same goes for the regular "send email" feature. I will let the user select the email account.
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True... However, if you choose "In Outlook" you can choose the account it is sent from. With the "Copy To Clipboard" not working yet, I have to just wish I could use it.

I tested version 3 the last hour and found a bug.
When I get the message 'short link failed' (why??) I can't get rid of the error message.
when I did get that message and clicked it a several times away the buttons on the bottom halve don't work anymore.
Very nice program by the way and a great feature the GPS.
Would be nice if it was possible to let the FFF sent automatic every two minutes an email for example.
please continue developing. I like it very much!!

Mine is getting a fix just fine and reporting the position but I can't tap any of the links like "Send via email".

Hi thanks for a really great app!
Just one suggestion, is it possible to just post one thread for the applicaiton.
You can use the first post to attach new release. This way you will get all the feedback and suggestions in one place.
Another request is if you could just post a short version history list so we could find out what has happened to the application.
Again, thanks for the great work!
//Piotr

PiotrM said:
Hi thanks for a really great app!
Just one suggestion, is it possible to just post one thread for the applicaiton.
You can use the first post to attach new release. This way you will get all the feedback and suggestions in one place.
Another request is if you could just post a short version history list so we could find out what has happened to the application.
Again, thanks for the great work!
//Piotr
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That's a good suggestion. I will ask the moderators to freeze this thread.
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voice calendar application

Hi all
Im looking for an app that will complement the calendar by allowing to record voice notes instead of text input when the calendar is open on "day" view.
when you hold down a specific time on the calendar, the voice recorder is activated and the Voice Note automatically gets recorded on the calendar date and time you are holding down, and gets added to your reminders/appointments with default settings and no more questions.
It would be a lot better obviously if it was translated to text first, but not necessary.
I was able to find "voice cal", very old and uninstallable on wm6.1 with .cf.net 3.5
and also "speerio voice organizer"... looks like a memory hog and i read it doesn't work right. Its also crowded with a million different things that are not useful.
I just want a simple interface to be able to use with one or two clicks or buttons in order to set up a calendar event while im driving or on the phone etc....
thanks

bump!.................

Hi Spiro,
any luck on finding that app? Cos i've been looking for the same, tho i would prefer that when u push the "record" button, u get multiple choices regarding where to place the voice note, where "calendar" bein one of the first. Then u just had to place it into the day and time you would like it to be. Haven't found one yet, so i've started to write to different application developers suggesting such an app. I'm surprised that they haven't made one ages ago. In meantime, if you should come across one, pls let me know.
cheers

anyone???
Do I really have to take up programming and write my own app?

I was lookin around and saw this
handheld.softpedia.com/get/Business/Calendar/VoiceCalendars-52540.shtml
I think this is different than VoiceCal
The one I gave the link to, seems lke it could work. Only problem is that it doesnt use WM existing calendar.

I tried speerio voice reminder and it was horrible! I dont know what some people are thinking.
All I need is a simple plugin to show itself on the calendars context menu when I "long press" on dayview to say "new voice note" and when I click on it it should have a HUGE red record button and a stop button. When you hit the stop button the calendar would save that as an event with the default alarms on the date it was created
the only problem I see with that is that the heading of the event would not be very informative unless one typed the info, but im willing to live with that. Or maybe MSvoice command could help there with some text to speech engine!!! (im not holding my breath)
Im using an app called "thumpcal" right now but they dont have a "day view" and I have to set the time after I scedulle an event on a specific date, but its better than the built in calendar BECAUSE ITS SIMPLE!!!!!
I dont understand how am i supposed to use a program like "speerio" while im driving when it has 30 f...n buttons the size of a neutron on the screen in a grey on grey display?????????
Does anyone know what I have to learn in order to put a little program together to do what I want it to do?
PS I also found some other interesting programs like "freenotes" that I thought was a good idea but I would like to be able to initiate that from the "day view" on the calendar (right click on a time on the screen and have the choice of a voice note or a pen note) so that I dont have to key- in the time that I want the event to take place

ummmmmm.....the link that I posted does what you want.
1.Make folders by subject name
2.Click on a folder, it then brings up calendar
3.Click on a day of the month
4.There is a BIG RED RECORD BUTTON at bottom of screen
5.Record your note, it is then stored for that specific day
Is this not what you want? Granted it doesn't use your existing calendar but hey, something is better than nothing, right
VoiceCalendars
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I was just lookin around and found this app. I think it might be right up your alley. Very simple/minimal interface. Allows you to record a voice message up to 2 minutes and then you can set a date and time for it to play aloud automatically.
Voice Reminder: Download Cab
Heres the website I found it at
I hope either of these programs can help. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to find that perfect app!

asofiker said:
ummmmmm.....the link that I posted does what you want.
1.Make folders by subject name
2.Click on a folder, it then brings up calendar
3.Click on a day of the month
4.There is a BIG RED RECORD BUTTON at bottom of screen
5.Record your note, it is then stored for that specific day
Is this not what you want? Granted it doesn't use your existing calendar but hey, something is better than nothing, right
VoiceCalendars
Update*
I was just lookin around and found this app. I think it might be right up your alley. Very simple/minimal interface. Allows you to record a voice message up to 2 minutes and then you can set a date and time for it to play aloud automatically.
Voice Reminder: Download Cab
Heres the website I found it at
I hope either of these programs can help. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to find that perfect app!
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Hey asofiker
thanks for your reply
I have an HTC Kaiser phone
I tried both programs you suggested and had the same problems with both that other users seem to be experiencing
the "voice calendars" displays a "the control grid .....could not be created" error
and the other program from the XDA member gives me the "An error occoured on sub_app_start.
This device does not support display power on/off Continue?" error.
I appreciate your help and if I find anything that works in the future Ill be sure to post here
Thanks again!

Not exactly what you're looking for but an idea: Agenda Fusion with its Notes Organizer and Data Linking features. Also a good agenda with lots of views. http://www.developerone.com/agendafusion/index.htm

Pocket Informant 8 is the best Calendar and Contacts app available and I always install it to my wm devices. It has voice notes recording functionality and then some. Check it out. I have tried all the others at great expense (some provide trials) and this is by far the best one.
Regards,
MAC

I tried agenda fusion in the past and find that it falls in the same category as most of these organizer programs its simply overkill for a one handed hand held device with a 2 inch screen
Ill give pocket informant a try and post back
Thanks

pocket informant no good for this purpose either!

spiro said:
pocket informant no good for this purpose either!
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Which version of PI are you using?
Mine is version 8 and it does exactly as you require! It saves a voice note under Storage Card/Voices when you select Notes View>Menu>Recording

MACkjam said:
Which version of PI are you using?
Mine is version 8 and it does exactly as you require! It saves a voice note under Storage Card/Voices when you select Notes View>Menu>Recording
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dont remember version I already uninstalled it
Im was having a problem with the interface trying to do too much!
Im looking for large buttons and a simple interface like a variation/add on to "thumcal" or "vito audio notes" etc
thanks

Quick contacts in TF3D is pure rubbish...

There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?

you can also move quickly through your contacts on the right side of that screen, goes pretty fast.

Hi after a sync my quick contacts is missing and i cant put it again? I only can put the new contacts and the old whose missing i cant put it again?

Have any of the tweakers put some thought into expanding the maximum number of quick contacts?

you can also move quickly through your contacts on the right side of that screen, goes pretty fast.
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I *was* talking about using the right slider of that screen. The thought of having to look at the faces of my contacts, one at a time, in order to reach the desired one, never even crossed my mind.

Have any of the tweakers put some thought into expanding the maximum number of quick contacts?
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If you are willing to sacrifice just *a little bit* more function, you can simply put your contacts at the "Photos and Videos" tab, then you can browse through an unlimited amount of your friends faces.

Noam23 said:
I *was* talking about using the right slider of that screen. The thought of having to look at the faces of my contacts, one at a time, in order to reach the desired one, never even crossed my mind.
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Sorry, misunderstood you then. Maybe assign one of the softbuttons to 'contacts'? I have PI8 assigned to where "phone" was I believe.
Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.

Noam23 said:
There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?
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I agree too. I think it's just the choice of form over function. I must say that HTC home older versions were better functionally . Just 2 clicks dialing as well. I am also not using them anymore. It's better to use the quickdial feature on the phone instead

Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.
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Still, if you have a small group of people you are in very frequent touch, it is much easier to have them on speed dial.
It's better to use the quickdial feature on the phone instead
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Can you send an SMS using the quickdial ?, after I find the person in quickdial, all I can do is call him...

Noam23 said:
Can you send an SMS using the quickdial ?, after I find the person in quickdial, all I can do is call him...
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You can start a new sms and when typing in the To field the first letters of the contact it shows.

i totally agree.
i would love to have contacts, messages and emails to be shown in an ordered list-style like the recently discovered call history. touchflo3d itself is really nice with this sliding-thing but these three tabs are indeed more visual than functional. hope someday someone will discover how to add third-party plugins...a vga-version of icontact integrated would be awesome.

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Well, partly agree with this thread, I agree totally that it isnt the fastest way (for exemple HTC home contacts on my tytn were much quicker)...
But then comes the issue, Is it really QUICK contacts or is it favorite contacts, I have to admit i pretty much like the interface, and navigating on the right side goes quite well...
So no, it isnt the quickest way, but much faster than the standard program, and besides that with a very nice interface..

Noam23 said:
There is nothing "quick" about it, and the whole point of quick contacts is being able to find a few people very quickly.
With SPB Mobile shell, all you have to do is 2 clicks and you're at your contact (one click for quick contacts, and another click to enter your person).
With TF3D, You have to do one click in order to get into quick contacts, and then painstakingly slide your finger on the small slider, until you hopefully reach your desired contact at some point. This is so fricking dumb. It should be the definition of form over function. It's almost unbelievable that HTC used this total disaster to serve as the most recognized picture of the touch diamond (smiling Grace Fuller).
Is there any way to replace this horrendous quick contacts tab with something more efficient (ala SPB MSII) ?
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But it looks darnnn nice, specially if you assign cool avatars to your contacts!

hey if u want to quickly call a contact, why go to touchflo3d at all...the fastest, and i mean really fast...method is to press the call button on the phone, and use the T9 dialer to bring up the contact (provided u know the name of the person ur dialing )
this works pretty fast...coming from an HTC touch (elfin), where the dialer lagged a lot, this one is blazing fast!! try it out

and yeah...that quick contacts thingie is purely for cosmetic purposes...useful only for showing off to your friends!
using the dialpad is the only way to use the 'phone'

The thing I hate about 'quick contacts' is how it displays the full name from my contact, instead of using the 'display as' field to get the name.
Oh well, more disappointment from my most disappointing phone ever.

an123 said:
hey if u want to quickly call a contact, why go to touchflo3d at all...the fastest, and i mean really fast...method is to press the call button on the phone, and use the T9 dialer to bring up the contact (provided u know the name of the person ur dialing )
this works pretty fast...coming from an HTC touch (elfin), where the dialer lagged a lot, this one is blazing fast!! try it out
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this is what i do, and for SMS i strt the message click contact and hit the 1st 3 letters of there name. i have removed the quick contacts tab not because its slow but because there is no need for it to be there at all

dutch64 said:
Sorry, misunderstood you then. Maybe assign one of the softbuttons to 'contacts'? I have PI8 assigned to where "phone" was I believe.
Anyhow, I agree that it's more visual than functional. For calling one of my contacts i still prefer the old way of pressing phone button (hard button) and type first letter of my contact.
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I've the softbuttons mapped to Contacts (left) and Camera (right), so getting to the contacts list is a single click, and then scroll or press the letter on the right column. I think is quite fast.

Quick Contacts is purely for quick access to your 'favourite' contacts, and it serves that function well for me: it is not laggy and provides a quick means of me contacting my top ten or so contacts with my fat thumb to hand. I see no problem with it. with a tap on the contact you can Email, SMS or call them. It's pretty sweet in my estimates.
As for the Diamond being disappointing = each to their own I suppose, but for me it's the best phone I've ever owned lacking only a decent camera and (less importantly) an expansion slot. It also scuffs too easily, but aside from that it does me proud every day and I love the weather and contacts tabs especially.

And quick contacts are not only for calling, but also for choosing which number to call, to geolocalize them, write mail, etc.
But I agree to the fact that when you scroll on the right, HTC should have skipp the transition between pictures... It's way to slow for quick-supposed contact browsing. I figured a way to make things better, just wait until somebody finds out how to program TF3D tabs-plugins.

[APP] Loudtalks Worldwide Push to Talk (walkie talkie) UPDATE 20-03-2009 UPDATE

Loudtalks Lite 0.9.0.49 for Windows Mobile UPDATE 20-03-2009
Perhaps something for you guy's.
Push to talk for Winhose Mobile.
What is Loudtalks?
Loudtalks brings voice back to the internet communications. It's a little application, which allows you to talk to your friends or colleagues instantly with a single touch of a button. Think walkie talkie. It's faster than text chat and more convenient than calls. Loudtalks is available for Windows right now, but we are working hard to bring it to other platforms soon, including your mobile phone. Loudtalks is free and will always be free.
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Power saving mode (”Turn off screen” menu option). When you select this option device screen turns off, while Loudtalks keeps running so you can receive messages and respond to them using central navigation key.
Vibrate option (if supported by device). It’s turned on by default so when you set your status to Away or Busy your device will vibrate on new messages. You can turn it off in Settings.
Report a problem… menu option. If something doesn’t work you can send us a report right from the software.
(Hint: even if everything works please use it to send your feedback or suggestions!)
Activate contact list, when switching to Loudtalks from other applications. Now you can use push-to-talk without tapping contact list first.
Automatically select the contact, when new conversation starts. That way when you hear “New conversation” alert, even if your screen is turned off, you can respond immediately by simply pressing PTT hardware button.
The website Loudtalks.com will automatically detect Windows Mobile device browser and display a mobile-optimized page so the easiest way to get the new Loudtalks is to visit Loudtalks.com on your device

belsj said:
Perhaps something for you guy's.
Push to talk for Winhose Mobile.
What is Loudtalks?
Loudtalks brings voice back to the internet communications. It's a little application, which allows you to talk to your friends or colleagues instantly with a single touch of a button. Think walkie talkie. It's faster than text chat and more convenient than calls. Loudtalks is available for Windows right now, but we are working hard to bring it to other platforms soon, including your mobile phone. Loudtalks is free and will always be free.
http://blog.loudtalks.com/2009/01/12...-for-download/
Njoy
Belsj
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Link not found... but it sounds fun
anyway, here is the link according to the reviews, it should work on Touch Pro Sprint
However, as I understand how it work, although it's free, you still have to pay for the internet to get a connection, right? (that isn't cheap man)

Oops sorry
I've updated the link sorry
http://loudtalks.com/LoudtalksSetup.exe
There is one bug:
you cannot add or accept contacts on the ppc you must do that on the windows (PC) version
But then it works great
PC version:
http://loudtalks.com/

What are differencies in comparison with Palringo?
I don't like in PR these things:
- voice history is saved on the server and all the time you want to play them,it is necessary to download it
- you push the button and it starts to recording. after you release it,it sends it,so not realtime. how is it working here?
Anyway,it looks great.

yes it is real time and no downloading messages.
just like walkie talkies

Well,that looks great! I missed an info about history. Is it saving as some file each message or how? And it will be available for Smartphones as well? I am using SP's and it can be very good choice,if it can use all resolutions(QCIF,QVGA,QVGAls) and OS(WM2003 as well).Yes and how about transfer rate? Is GPRS/EDGE enough?

Great one!!!
Thanks

Interesting app. I'm testing now

TomasNM said:
Is GPRS/EDGE enough?
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Yes GPRS is enough. The history (voice messages) you can find them if there is a blue arrow. if you click on the arrow you see the history of that contact. you can play them as much as you like.
Loudtalks is only available for Windows desktop and Windows Mobile based handhelds
It should work fine on devices with 400 MHz+ processor and on Windows Mobile 2003, Windows Mobile 5.0 and Windows Mobile 6.0.

Anyone tried this out? How well does it work???

Any plans to port Loudtalks client to BlackBerry? My team has a mixture of WinMo and BB devices. I am WinMo, of course, but some of the suits haven't seen the light yet.

mark72501 said:
Anyone tried this out? How well does it work???
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Mark, this works very well. Since the update last week it is much better, faster en clearer.
Even now you get an roger beep befor you receive a message on the phone.
Also you can "send"speak to laptops and pc with speakers and a mic.
You can always try and you can speak to your self with the echo user.

I tested the echo, works good. But I cannot delete the messages. None of my buddy's got a Window Mobile. They prefer cheap old fashion flip phones.
Add me: xhypnotik
I want to see if it works with people.

xhypnotik said:
I tested the echo, works good. But I cannot delete the messages. None of my buddy's got a Window Mobile. They prefer cheap old fashion flip phones.
Add me: xhypnotik
I want to see if it works with people.
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Flip Phones? this was used on october 12, 1492 by our Christoffel Columbus, he called europe to say he found some strange people!! hehehehe
I add you on mine flaptop
(HaosOnline)

belsj said:
Flip Phones? this was used on october 12, 1492 by our Christoffel Columbus, he called europe to say he found some strange people!! hehehehe
I add you on mine flaptop
Belsj (HaosOnline)
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Lol! They need to make a popup or whatever when someone adds you. I almost didn't see the small flag located on the bottom right hand corner.

yeah it's hard to see, but it is better then last week.
The previous version it wasn't possible to add people or accept people. You had to accept new people on a window pc.
So it will be better, i hope.

This is a great app, been usinbg it for two weeks with wifey on our Touch Pro's

Hey guys.
take a look here pahhleese
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480708

Nice thread
Good luck

So how can I map it to my ptt button? I installed but it didn't map it. I'm using RSW 1.6 rom. Works fine with onscreen button, but would work much better to ptt button. I can make a link to it, but just need to know the parameters.

Another SMS bug in Manila 3D!

Hey, before you start reading my oncoming wall of text, please read this: THIS IS NOT ABOUT EVERY THIRD SMS DISAPPEARING.
With that out of the way, I'll post my problem. See, I really love TouchFlo and it makes me wanting to use my phone more, so it's great to see so many roms incorporating this. itje's roms are praised all over the Xperia part of the forums and I like his roms as much as they do - there's just one problem. You know the sms program cooked into itje's TouchIT roms? The one with a seperate "Send" button and a black framed text entry box? Well, this text entry box won't stay on the button, right over the Windows Mobile softkeys, like it should. Instead, it floats about half an inch up from there, overlapping about 3 of the latest text messages in the conversation. This is really annoying, and makes me stick with the stock rom.
I noticed that somewhere in the TouchIT-threads someone also had this problem, and tried to solve it. After much searching I still can't find it, and belive me - I've searched like a freakin' narcotics dog.
My question is: Is there a way to delete this program and map the sms tab to open Windows Mobile sms? Or possibly a fix?
It's a shame some of us with this bug (I assume I'm not the only one) aren't able to enjoy all the great TouchFlo roms here because of this bug when maybe there's an easy fix. Since all the threads I've started before this one has been ignored, I hope this problem will get some attention anyways. I'm happy to test possible fixes, I'm used to re-flashing my X1 once a day. I don't think I'll come up with a fix myself since I don't have the knowledge of WinMo (yet!).
Regards
/Felix

yeah, i have the same prob. i actually like windows sms better, when u go threw MESSAGES > ALL MESSAGES > anyone.
i would like to know a fix too.

HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE REPEATED
if it was any lower it would conflict with the slide out tab in landscape the one that has the icons.
this is not a bug, it looks like it's how HTC designed it..
I've answered this before (as have other people) did it really need another new thread?
If you really believe this is just a part of Itjes roms then search the forum, loads of people on different devices have exactly the same thing..
go get a blackboard and repeat after me..
It's not a bug
100000 times...
then when you've finished you might actually bother pressing Allmessages instead of Startnew thread on the forum..

fards said:
HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT NEED TO BE REPEATED
if it was any lower it would conflict with the slide out tab in landscape the one that has the icons.
this is not a bug, it looks like it's how HTC designed it..
I've answered this before (as have other people) did it really need another new thread?
If you really believe this is just a part of Itjes roms then search the forum, loads of people on different devices have exactly the same thing..
go get a blackboard and repeat after me..
It's not a bug
100000 times...
then when you've finished you might actually bother pressing Allmessages instead of Startnew thread on the forum..
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Hmm, I really tried to find a solution (or in this case, answer) but so what? This thread dies out soon, and a mod is free to delete it if it's in the way of more important stuff. Sheesh, it's like everyone on the internet is obliged to have their period when a question instead of an answer comes up. This is merely a bug report and you should treat it that way I think - as something constructive. Since you answered it so many times, why not decide NOT to answer it or answer it in a nice way? Either is fine with me but thanks for telling me it's not a bug.
This leads me to my next question, thus not making this thread obsolete and reeking of flame war stench - Is there a way to map the sms text to opening the message in WinMo sms? This is not necessary, of course, but to overpass the TouchFlo sms althrouh would be great.

oh come on, fards - you'd REALLY miss the opportunity for these little rants if these postings would stop alltogether tomorrow...
some people should read up the difference between show-stopper, bug and design-flaw though... (not sure if even the last one is right for this issue, what's the alternative?!)

felixkry said:
This leads me to my next question, thus not making this thread obsolete and reeking of flame war stench - Is there a way to map the sms text to opening the message in WinMo sms? This is not necessary, of course, but to overpass the TouchFlo sms althrouh would be great.
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Download mode9 editor, cruise the lua files until you find the one responsible for the messaging app, learn how to prgram lua and then code it to call tmail.exe instead of the HTC solution. Simple.
Or you could try cooking a ROM without the HTC message enhancements package?

akp99 said:
Download mode9 editor, cruise the lua files until you find the one responsible for the messaging app, learn how to prgram lua and then code it to call tmail.exe instead of the HTC solution. Simple.
Or you could try cooking a ROM without the HTC message enhancements package?
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Thanks for this answer, I've tried to cook my own rom but it came out rather buggy so I'll go with other roms while I'm learning.

Rather than being silly, you could A) search B) search C) press the allmessages which brings up the Winmo SMS app.
I even said it up the top (as I have before over and over again).
If there was a "fix" don't you think it would have been announced by now, or included in the roms?

May I offer a forth suggestion?
Try SSMaHo?
I have a bit of simpathy here, this 'feature' is rather unhelpful, but not as bad IMHO as the one that seems to lose my response mid type when I click somewhere wrongly (I honestly can't remember what) so I have to start again.

grayme said:
May I offer a forth suggestion?
Try SSMaHo?
I have a bit of simpathy here, this 'feature' is rather unhelpful, but not as bad IMHO as the one that seems to lose my response mid type when I click somewhere wrongly (I honestly can't remember what) so I have to start again.
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I tried that (or the newer one) that but couldn't get it too work, it was missing the hook.

fards said:
I tried that (or the newer one) that but couldn't get it too work, it was missing the hook.
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Hmmm, oh well, at least it has been tried (and saves me having a go).
I think I may go back to 2.95... (but I'll have a play with a few of the new ROMs seeing as how I'll be going back to stock for returning the X1 on Sunday...)

There's a solution for this in Rhodium, looks like this, excessively handy:
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Now we only need to know which _manila file is responsible for this and overwrite the ugly Topaz-style _manila: