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Does anyone use the Palm Threaded SMS on their Kaiser?

I am using the shogunmark one for WM6, and it seems to be working okay. I have an issue though that I am wondering if it traces to this application.
Sometimes in the morning, I notice that Outlook seems to hang with the "please wait" circle/hourglass thing and it requires a soft reset to fix. Simply closing all applications does not fix it.
I don't know if this is a corrupt issue with Outlook, ActiveSync, or if separating SMS from Outlook causes the problem.

I use the app without any issues. Send lots of SMS but I don't send MMS at all.

I have had no problems so far but i've only used it for a few days. Pocket Outlook works as normal as far as i know. I don't really send mms so losing that ability is ok by me.
Sending SMS from Outlook is very annoying for me not only because it's not threaded but also when i type the contact's name in the receiver field it only shows whatever number is filed under "Mobile Number" but most if not all of the people i text to have more than 2 mobile phone numbers and i cant change the number (or at least i dont know how to change it from there). The Palm application lets you choose whatever number you have under that contact's name.

there is a fix for the mms i forgot which thread its in,

Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?

trjons said:
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
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Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.

would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?

imdbui said:
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded

Entropy512 said:
Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
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I don't. But it might have something to do with that anyway.

trjons said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
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thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?

i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt

Well from what i've read using MMS from the Palm application is not possible at all. The "fix" is for the MMS tab to reappear in Pocket Outlook and to send MMS from there instead. I tried doing it for my v1615 on Vodafone but couldnt get it to work. Maybe others had more luck.

Ive been using the Palm Application since I flashed to the new rom.. I have not noticed this problem.. I will pay more attention and post back if I see it happening!

imdbui said:
thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
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Yes, the HTC Home Today Plug-In does read the SMS count when using the Palm Threaded SMS app.

Palm Sms + Kaiser = Bad?
dashraider said:
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
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I have the same problem on the ATT original ROM and Duttys Hybrid rom
It randomly gives out of memory error even with no other app running
Or everytime i try to create an mms
ANY FIX?

Keep getting random text from WC####

After flashing HTC Rom i keep getting these random text messages from WC something wtih a bunch of numbers.. what is this?

If they say WVCI####, then most likely you used OZ Messenger for IM previously? And you didn't log out of OZ properly. you just closed the app...
See this my post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338690&highlight=wvci
Others have also said that you get this problem if you install OZ IM on your storage card and not your main memory. I'm skeptical of that, but some said it works. I stopped using OZ after day 1 so I don't know if it does or not...But the "logging in and logging out properly" method worked for me when I did have the issue that day. Also, you can log into your IM accounts on your PC. This forces the old connections from your phone to close and thus also shoudl end the messages.

tahnks for the help but what is OZ messenger? how do i log out

OK, if you don't use OZ messenger for IM, then it may not be the issue. Can you type the exact contents of one of the messages? and how often do they arrive?

1111470500
Wvci 1.1 111
theyre arrving once every couple minutes, happened after i flashed to HTC rom, i dont have anything custom installed

mrkoven said:
1111470500
Wvci 1.1 111
theyre arrving once every couple minutes, happened after i flashed to HTC rom, i dont have anything custom installed
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Yup, that is most likely the OZ IM ping SMS message. You never used Instant Messaging on your phone before or after flashing? OZ IM comes installed on the Tilt by default, i beleive.
Do you use ANY instant messaging? I mean, even on your PC? If so, log into all your IM accounts on your PC, and see if that stops the SMS messages.
It's gotta be something related to OZ instant messenger program.

i logged into AIM before the flash, but i dont have AIM on the new HTC Rom
how should i fix this?
thanks for the help btw

The easiest suggestion may be to go to a PC and log into your AIM account on the PC. Since this should force your previous session from the phone closed, it should stop the messages.
I don't know much more about AIM to be able to help. Do they have a mobile version? Or install some IM program that supports AIM. (I've heard good things about Mundu IM, but there are others - do a search on this forum). Install the program and use it to log into AIM. This shoud also stop it. And let you use AIm on your phone go forward. I don't know about the ROM you installed to know if it has an IM program built into it already. Whatever IM program you do use, make sure you log out before you shut the program down.
That's about as much help as I can provide since I don't use AIM, and don't know about the ROM you installed...I only use Windows Messenger (Live) and Skype...

thanks got it fixed, appreciate it

For future reference, and others who might have the issue later, how did you manage to get them messages to stop?

I presume the method of logging in from a PC resolves the issue.

FINALLY ... an SMS threading program that works PERFECTLY!!

Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.

Thanks, i'will give it a try.

looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul

great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying

PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)

True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.

I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.

How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -

@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working

After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.

Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!

Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx

I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
eddythepeddy said:
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?

www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around

hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.

g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.

argoldst said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.

Threaded SMS

ok, so I tried SMS chat, and it's nice, but there are a few flaws that I am not sure of, I also heard that TEXTr is a little too buggy for its own good.
anyone know of a good app that will give me a chat type app. I tried a wile ago the Palm extracted version, but the MMS stopped working for some reason.
any ideas, is there an update to the Palm app, is there something else out there that someone recommends?

PocketCM at PocketCM.com is good. I use SMS-Chat by VITO personally, and I love it. The Palm App you can get fixes for so that you can get MMS working, if you do a few minutes of searching on the forums.

I have tried quite a few of these and have found SMS Chat is still tops. Only flaw is no quick search fuction.

I have tried quite a few of these and have found SMS Chat is still tops. Only flaw is no quick search function.

I was having problems with my MMS but I think I will try SMS Chat until they get some of those bugs worked our. Thanks for the info.

I found that when using sms chat, touchpal back space to delete word not working. Anyone else experiencing this?

Just follow these steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1815112&postcount=6

I found this small application called threader available at http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/
very simple but seems to work well on my HTC Kaiser

Am I missing something?
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?

emy_77 said:
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?
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Do you have WM6.1 on your Kaiser?

emy_77 said:
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?
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I guess I dont know how to activate this feature because I dont seem to have it, if you know the trick to make it work it would be sweet because I cant find it

Firefly, did you back up your sms with PIM Back up and the restored them in the 6.1 rom?
if you did thats why you dont have threaded sms. it seems to be that when sms messages are restored n 6.1, it throws off the threaded sms feature.

Is there a way to close a threaded message or split it into its own thread?
Been having the same "conversation" for a week with the girlfriend and there is no relevence between one message and another.

Do you need Windows Vista to install WM6.1?
I don't have WM 6.1 but the latest WM6 update from HTC for my at&t TILT. It's stable but no threaded SMS app Can you install and flash to WM 6.1 or do you need to do it with a computer running Vista only? Is the SMS superior in WM 6.1? I use SMS daily to communicate and SMS Chat is the only app that has worked for me reliably. Yes the backspace button sometimes does not work and there is no emoticon support but unless you all have another option its sms chat or wm 6.1.

smjoshi said:
I found this small application called threader available at http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/
very simple but seems to work well on my HTC Kaiser
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SMS Threader doesn't seem to be availalble from here anymore.
Do you have the cab for it?

I use one of Duttys wm6.1 roms and the threaded sms rocks my socks off

rameses said:
SMS Threader doesn't seem to be availalble from here anymore.
Do you have the cab for it?
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Yes here it is -

the sms in 6.1 rocks my socks...thats one of the main reasons why i flashed to 6.1 but in 6.0 i was using vito sms chat which worked quite well for me but i wanted it to be built in and not an external program

I'm quite happy with PocketCM. The new version integrates better between contacts and SMS and Phone better, too.

smjoshi said:
Yes here it is -
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Cheers, I'll give it a try.

manilla 2.1 sms bug

Im looking to change the rom on my HD and see a lot of comments about the sms bug in manilla 2.1.
Im using Orange and from what iv gathered the bug affects Orange (and a few others). What exactly IS the bug and is it worth avoiding manilla roms 2.1 because of it?

seems to be related to the interface of SMS Manila where when You wrote a message, time by time the text still pending in the outgoing folder, so the sms is not delivered.
To bypass this problem, is what I have to do, is to replay directly to the SMS default page, instead of Manila interface...
I'm not to be sure that is clear, I really hope so...

Yes there is a bug in the Manila SMS application itself. You can either make a change and use the Windows default SMS application, use a different ROM with the older Manila, or live with it

you can't send 2 messages in a row to the same person, don't know is it only from manila or generally :/

hmm, i think it is how you sync ur contacts after flashing the rom. if you use pimbackup u will get the sms problem. however, if u sync via activesync, it should be fine. thats how i worked around the problem. hope it helped :]

I never had this issue and used activesync to backup contacts/emails

i've done it via Activesync, MyPhone, PIM, all options, without restoring old texts, with restoring them (again MyPhone) and got it every single time :/

Fallen Spartan said:
I never had this issue and used activesync to backup contacts/emails
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I always use activesync to backup my contacts and calendar with google's gmail and always working.

Strangely enough, it seems carrier-related as well...

there is a cab, i think is call timefix that one work for me when i got that problem