Im looking to change the rom on my HD and see a lot of comments about the sms bug in manilla 2.1.
Im using Orange and from what iv gathered the bug affects Orange (and a few others). What exactly IS the bug and is it worth avoiding manilla roms 2.1 because of it?
seems to be related to the interface of SMS Manila where when You wrote a message, time by time the text still pending in the outgoing folder, so the sms is not delivered.
To bypass this problem, is what I have to do, is to replay directly to the SMS default page, instead of Manila interface...
I'm not to be sure that is clear, I really hope so...
Yes there is a bug in the Manila SMS application itself. You can either make a change and use the Windows default SMS application, use a different ROM with the older Manila, or live with it
you can't send 2 messages in a row to the same person, don't know is it only from manila or generally :/
hmm, i think it is how you sync ur contacts after flashing the rom. if you use pimbackup u will get the sms problem. however, if u sync via activesync, it should be fine. thats how i worked around the problem. hope it helped :]
I never had this issue and used activesync to backup contacts/emails
i've done it via Activesync, MyPhone, PIM, all options, without restoring old texts, with restoring them (again MyPhone) and got it every single time :/
Fallen Spartan said:
I never had this issue and used activesync to backup contacts/emails
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I always use activesync to backup my contacts and calendar with google's gmail and always working.
Strangely enough, it seems carrier-related as well...
there is a cab, i think is call timefix that one work for me when i got that problem
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ok, so I tried SMS chat, and it's nice, but there are a few flaws that I am not sure of, I also heard that TEXTr is a little too buggy for its own good.
anyone know of a good app that will give me a chat type app. I tried a wile ago the Palm extracted version, but the MMS stopped working for some reason.
any ideas, is there an update to the Palm app, is there something else out there that someone recommends?
PocketCM at PocketCM.com is good. I use SMS-Chat by VITO personally, and I love it. The Palm App you can get fixes for so that you can get MMS working, if you do a few minutes of searching on the forums.
I have tried quite a few of these and have found SMS Chat is still tops. Only flaw is no quick search fuction.
I have tried quite a few of these and have found SMS Chat is still tops. Only flaw is no quick search function.
I was having problems with my MMS but I think I will try SMS Chat until they get some of those bugs worked our. Thanks for the info.
I found that when using sms chat, touchpal back space to delete word not working. Anyone else experiencing this?
Just follow these steps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1815112&postcount=6
I found this small application called threader available at http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/
very simple but seems to work well on my HTC Kaiser
Am I missing something?
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?
emy_77 said:
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?
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Do you have WM6.1 on your Kaiser?
emy_77 said:
Am I missing something here? Why do you need other threaded-SMS app when it's already built-in in WM6.1?
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I guess I dont know how to activate this feature because I dont seem to have it, if you know the trick to make it work it would be sweet because I cant find it
Firefly, did you back up your sms with PIM Back up and the restored them in the 6.1 rom?
if you did thats why you dont have threaded sms. it seems to be that when sms messages are restored n 6.1, it throws off the threaded sms feature.
Is there a way to close a threaded message or split it into its own thread?
Been having the same "conversation" for a week with the girlfriend and there is no relevence between one message and another.
Do you need Windows Vista to install WM6.1?
I don't have WM 6.1 but the latest WM6 update from HTC for my at&t TILT. It's stable but no threaded SMS app Can you install and flash to WM 6.1 or do you need to do it with a computer running Vista only? Is the SMS superior in WM 6.1? I use SMS daily to communicate and SMS Chat is the only app that has worked for me reliably. Yes the backspace button sometimes does not work and there is no emoticon support but unless you all have another option its sms chat or wm 6.1.
smjoshi said:
I found this small application called threader available at http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/
very simple but seems to work well on my HTC Kaiser
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SMS Threader doesn't seem to be availalble from here anymore.
Do you have the cab for it?
I use one of Duttys wm6.1 roms and the threaded sms rocks my socks off
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SMS Threader doesn't seem to be availalble from here anymore.
Do you have the cab for it?
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Yes here it is -
the sms in 6.1 rocks my socks...thats one of the main reasons why i flashed to 6.1 but in 6.0 i was using vito sms chat which worked quite well for me but i wanted it to be built in and not an external program
I'm quite happy with PocketCM. The new version integrates better between contacts and SMS and Phone better, too.
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Yes here it is -
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Cheers, I'll give it a try.
Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
-- I have tried sending paired, and not paired
-- I have verified that filesharing is on, and all of my bluetooth options are enabled
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
-- In some instances I dont even see the messages that were sent to me. When I tried making PIMBackup to restore the messages again it said they were already there. I have received some new SMS"s that I dont want to wipe out if I can avoid it but i've never seen this before and it makes no sense
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)
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Hey all,
so i have two very strange issues...
1. Bluetooth OBEX - I can send FROM the phone to any device (That supports it) but I cannot send anything TO the phone from any device. Typically i will get a generic "Device does not support OBEX" error message
2. SMS's not in order - When I installed my current rom (see my sig) And used PIM restore to put my SMS's back, they are not in the order that the conversation happened. If you look @ each day. the messages appear their's first for the day, then mine... its kinda weird.
Another thing.. where do I edit the size of text on context menu's ? (asside from the start menu which was using LargeStartMenu)
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Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC
MACkjam said:
Hi there,
1.Not all devices are bluetooth 2.0 compliant and I have the same problem sending from older devices.
2. SMS's order can be set in main screen. Select Received on top right
3.Text size can be changed under Start>Settings>System>Screen
There is a tab for font size at the bottom with a slide bar. I have set mine to 2nd last notch from right.
Hope this helps.
MAC
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Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)
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Hey MAC, thanks for the reply
for the bluetooth item, this is from my brand new dell laptop or even another att tilt. Even my friends 8125 that was working on some other roms i have problems with now.
the SMS issue is not on the inbox screen its on the actual message history screen. So if I click on an item in my inbox it brings up the coversation thread. In there it shows all of my friends messages first then the ones I sent in reply so instead of .... them... me .. .them.. me. its them... them.. them.. me .. me.. me ... its kind of weird
I had already checked the text size on the screen page. It was set to normal, but the menu's are still huge (see screenshot)
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I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.
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I see re the bluetooth issue. Nt sure as my laptop sends and receives fine from my TyTN II.
If you are using threaded sms then I can't help as I have normal one.
I see you are also using WK Task which comes with the Kaiser. I have removed that and opted for Quickmenu. It is MUCH better, smaller and gives you cascading menus like in Windows XP/Vista. It is also freeware. (File attached). Just place all the files in the zip archive to a folder anywhere on your device, create shortcut if you want, but I suggest you place a shortcut in the startup folder.
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Yah I've been working on the BT issue since yesterday with no luck
I am using threaded SMS which is why its annoying me that the messages are not appearing in order...
I use WK task in tandem with QuickMenu... I love quick menu, but I still cant figure out how to fix the font sizes... its every context menu not just the tray apps... even my resco context menu is huge and i have to scroll it to do stuff its kind of irritating
Thanks for the suggestions tho, I hope someone has a solution for me, I really like this rom and dont want to change it
Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!
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Ok So I just discovered that I am completely retarded and forgot to check the "Accept all incoming beams" option in the beam control panel applet... now, how do I go about fixing my SMS messaging issue and chaning the fonts for the menus? They are HUGE!
Thanks in advance!
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Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly
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Any suggestions on these other two issues? My threaded messaging not being threaded in the right order is really starting to irritate me I can use SK tools to see that all the messages appear in the database but they dont show in messaging correctly
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Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.
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Yup when I restore my Messages its not in order. I truly believe its because of how PIM restores the Messages. All Received First Then all Sent. So to the Device it IS in order. I've posted this thought in the PIM Backup thread. I don't think they've got it figured out yet. Sorry.
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Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404
RickoT said:
Actually I just finished fixing the PIM Backup issue too.. its kind of a known issue with 6.1 If you restore everything but your messaging DB. Clear your messaging DB in the messaging app. Terminate the messaging app process then run PIM restore... run the messaging app and let it rebuild the threads it seems to work.. Also make sure that you set your regional date settings to what your normally set it to BEFORE you run PIM backup... some people believe that this may also be the issue.... so process is...
1. Flash
2. Restore all of your data using PIM backup EXCEPT messages
3. Open messaging and clear your SMS boxes
4. Terminate the messaging application
5. Do your PIM Restore
6. Open mesaging
Worked for me!
1 more issue to go and thats the large menu font size!
here is the thread (and post) I found it on : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1903404&highlight=Create+threads.#post1903404
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Yup that only works 40% of the time for me.
Hi, anyone experienced Manilla 2D not running after restoring SMSes? It seems that there is a threshold level or something tat M2D refuse to run if there are xxxx numbers of SMS in the inbox... Can anyone verify this?
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Hi, anyone experienced Manilla 2D not running after restoring SMSes? It seems that there is a threshold level or something tat M2D refuse to run if there are xxxx numbers of SMS in the inbox... Can anyone verify this?
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You have to be more specific, are you using rom based or cab install, which program are you using to restore?
Im using rom based Manilla Hyperdragon, restored 250+ sms fine but, restoring emails don't work well (manilla sees the emials but outlook doesnt just blank and you cant create them because it says they already exist using sktools restore. So I just restore sms with pimbackup.
I am using HDIII and using PIMBACKUP. I restored abt 2500 sms and it fails to launch..
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I am using HDIII and using PIMBACKUP. I restored abt 2500 sms and it fails to launch..
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lol damn, that is a lot I have no idea because i never used to save sms just started 2 weeks ago, maybe someone else has same prob.
+1 Same issue here, any solution for this issue ?
i have over 6000 messages currently and i started having such trouble when the count was around 4000 messages. i've flashed ROMs many times before that and many times after that point. but i ALWAYS kept the text messaging tab in manila DISABLED, so the problem might have actually occurred at ANY point in time before the 4000 messages mark but i only accidentally found out about it when i left the messaging tab enabled by mistake when i was using TPC's ROMs near the end of 2008.
long story short, in my case the problem is because of one or more "bad" messages that manila doesn't seem to like. in my case, manila2d would start up but ALL of it would be black/blank. i certainly didn't want to go through thousands of messages to try to pinpoint which particular message(s) were causing the issue.
to make the whole thing even shorter, just disable the messaging tab (using M2DC) and see if manila2d starts up correctly. if not, it might be some other problem. if it does start, you're better off without the messaging tab because i feel that personal stuff like messages shouldn't be so easily accessible and readable in the home screen.
i know its not much of a solution but at least you can continue to use the rest of manila2d with no other issues with the messaging tab disabled.
Hi all,
I have Tilt and I am very fond of messaging.
I was having a conversation through SMS with a frnd and when i was replying to one of his SMSs, all of a sudden hung a lil bit and all the SMS of his has gone.
Then later i checked, some people and sites who are regular with their SMS (3-5 SMS in day), those SMS are also gone but not the complete thread is being deleted.
I am not able to understand the pattern.
Is it like that each thread can contain only a specific number of SMSs.
And earlier i thought this might be a problem with my handset or s/w, but today one of my frnd who uses HTC 3400, had the same prob.
Kindly help. I had more than 1000 SMS in it.
Softwares installed:
SPB Pocket mobile shell 3
kaiser tweak
google maps
web cam plus
Regards,
Abhishek
while you are looking for a solution, i suggest you backup all your text messages using "pim backup"...search for it on xda
this way, you will have a backup that you can restore in case the situation gets worse and your device starts "forgetting" even more text messages
Yes, i am encounter the same problem too, where my sms been deleted automatically after soft reset my phone. Why it can be happen? any way to solve this?
Phone: Dopod 810
OS : WM6.0
ASCIIker said:
while you are looking for a solution, i suggest you backup all your text messages using "pim backup"...search for it on xda
this way, you will have a backup that you can restore in case the situation gets worse and your device starts "forgetting" even more text messages
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thanx buddy for the suggestion, but i believe ,anyones fate would not have fallen pathetically sick as mine. I had all the backups, but my hard disk also crashed.
anyways ..... still looking for a solution ... i believe theres a hidden bug in WM6.0 n 6.1
But it is hard to believe that no one till date has not escalated this issue.
Hope to find a resolution for it.
Cheers !!! (Hope if WM allowed us to)
Hi, is there any latest ROM that doesn't mess up SMS threads?
Dutty's R7 with HTC messaging - u can't see the whole message if it's longer than 200 chars, same with Miri V12. Also tried Miri's V30 based on Manila 2.1 - and the problem there is even more ridiculous - in a thread messages are in wrong order, first goes all my replies and then the other persons txts.
I am using Jeyo Mobile Companion and PIM to restore messages and get the same results. Any proper ROM?
i think the problem lies in the backup program, they somehow restore them in the wrong way. I think it works via myphone (at least that what i heard).
The best solution is to not sync your messages, which i do .
I don't really understand why people have to put hundreds of old text messages back on their phone, they have read them right?
Anyhow, it is related to the backupprogram and manila not working correctly. Try using topix, in that rom there are no bugs at all (but it's a wm 6.1 rom)
Not really sure that this is the problem of the restoring programs as I tried different options. Tried also Laurentius V3 - again problem with messages that don't show in full and that lay over each other.
Anyone else having same problem? Or any advices on program that actually works?
I have the same issue with text messages being out of order on NRGZs Energy Photon ROM, the new 23081 build.
The issue is down to the date/time stamp on the messages. I had my messages going out having the same time but yesterday's date on them, hence the order being all wrong. I checked through all the regional settings etc to see whether all that was ok, but nothing was wrong.
It appears not to be doing it now, but I have cleared all my messages out and soft reset a few times since, so I cannot say what was causing the issue.
if you run manila2.1, whatever rom has this cab is ok
no, that doesn't work either...The usual problem: all my messages in the beginning, if I scroll up I find other persons messages and at the very top txts for today for both of us
other ideas? I don't get it really: what's the point in all the new cabs and functions if one of the two main functions - texting and calling - doesn't work properly?
sorry fr bumping such an old thread... but have been facing this issue with all the ROMs i've tried...it's highly irritating. i some times miss imp. smses
I'll test the fix cab and report soon...
In case someone has already found a working solution. please post it here.
B.U.M.P. guys.. anybody has a solution for this?? kindly help ..
topix for sure has no messed up sms's. dunno i tried lots of m2.1 roms and if sms were messed up i installed the attached cab and they worked
If you're using a backup/restore SMS program, you should disable Threaded messaging before backuping and before restoring.
I've noticed that backup/restore SMS programs have some problems with threaded messaging, but I have never encountered the messing issue since I disable Threaded messaging before both backuping and restoring.