Problem restoring sms on Manila 2D? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi, anyone experienced Manilla 2D not running after restoring SMSes? It seems that there is a threshold level or something tat M2D refuse to run if there are xxxx numbers of SMS in the inbox... Can anyone verify this?

Leechoonhwee said:
Hi, anyone experienced Manilla 2D not running after restoring SMSes? It seems that there is a threshold level or something tat M2D refuse to run if there are xxxx numbers of SMS in the inbox... Can anyone verify this?
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You have to be more specific, are you using rom based or cab install, which program are you using to restore?
Im using rom based Manilla Hyperdragon, restored 250+ sms fine but, restoring emails don't work well (manilla sees the emials but outlook doesnt just blank and you cant create them because it says they already exist using sktools restore. So I just restore sms with pimbackup.

I am using HDIII and using PIMBACKUP. I restored abt 2500 sms and it fails to launch..

Leechoonhwee said:
I am using HDIII and using PIMBACKUP. I restored abt 2500 sms and it fails to launch..
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lol damn, that is a lot I have no idea because i never used to save sms just started 2 weeks ago, maybe someone else has same prob.

+1 Same issue here, any solution for this issue ?

i have over 6000 messages currently and i started having such trouble when the count was around 4000 messages. i've flashed ROMs many times before that and many times after that point. but i ALWAYS kept the text messaging tab in manila DISABLED, so the problem might have actually occurred at ANY point in time before the 4000 messages mark but i only accidentally found out about it when i left the messaging tab enabled by mistake when i was using TPC's ROMs near the end of 2008.
long story short, in my case the problem is because of one or more "bad" messages that manila doesn't seem to like. in my case, manila2d would start up but ALL of it would be black/blank. i certainly didn't want to go through thousands of messages to try to pinpoint which particular message(s) were causing the issue.
to make the whole thing even shorter, just disable the messaging tab (using M2DC) and see if manila2d starts up correctly. if not, it might be some other problem. if it does start, you're better off without the messaging tab because i feel that personal stuff like messages shouldn't be so easily accessible and readable in the home screen.
i know its not much of a solution but at least you can continue to use the rest of manila2d with no other issues with the messaging tab disabled.

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Does anyone use the Palm Threaded SMS on their Kaiser?

I am using the shogunmark one for WM6, and it seems to be working okay. I have an issue though that I am wondering if it traces to this application.
Sometimes in the morning, I notice that Outlook seems to hang with the "please wait" circle/hourglass thing and it requires a soft reset to fix. Simply closing all applications does not fix it.
I don't know if this is a corrupt issue with Outlook, ActiveSync, or if separating SMS from Outlook causes the problem.
I use the app without any issues. Send lots of SMS but I don't send MMS at all.
I have had no problems so far but i've only used it for a few days. Pocket Outlook works as normal as far as i know. I don't really send mms so losing that ability is ok by me.
Sending SMS from Outlook is very annoying for me not only because it's not threaded but also when i type the contact's name in the receiver field it only shows whatever number is filed under "Mobile Number" but most if not all of the people i text to have more than 2 mobile phone numbers and i cant change the number (or at least i dont know how to change it from there). The Palm application lets you choose whatever number you have under that contact's name.
there is a fix for the mms i forgot which thread its in,
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
trjons said:
Okay, thanks for the input.
I think my problem must tie into ActiveSync then or the fact that I use an Exchange Server.
Any other reason for that circle/please wait to constantly be showing?
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Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
imdbui said:
would anyone be able to direct me to where i could find the Palm SMS cab?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
Entropy512 said:
Are you using push Hotmail with Windows Live?
I've found that if it was enabled and you were in an area with no/bad coverage or in flight mode, it would cause that multicolor circle to appear every few seconds and the device would slow to a crawl.
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I don't. But it might have something to do with that anyway.
trjons said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319899&highlight=shogunmark+threaded
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thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
Well from what i've read using MMS from the Palm application is not possible at all. The "fix" is for the MMS tab to reappear in Pocket Outlook and to send MMS from there instead. I tried doing it for my v1615 on Vodafone but couldnt get it to work. Maybe others had more luck.
Ive been using the Palm Application since I flashed to the new rom.. I have not noticed this problem.. I will pay more attention and post back if I see it happening!
imdbui said:
thanks trjons. Now I've gotta see if theres a fix for the MMS yet.
Does anyone know if the KaiserHomescreen is able to display the SMS count when using this threaded sms?
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Yes, the HTC Home Today Plug-In does read the SMS count when using the Palm Threaded SMS app.
Palm Sms + Kaiser = Bad?
dashraider said:
i use it to send sms and it works just fine except that for some reason when i try to send mms it tells me i dont have enough memory to complete this operation.please close some open windows and try again even thought i have over 70mb of free program and storage memory on my tilt
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I have the same problem on the ATT original ROM and Duttys Hybrid rom
It randomly gives out of memory error even with no other app running
Or everytime i try to create an mms
ANY FIX?

Tilt programs disappearing and/or not responding!

I have an ATT Tilt and it's been working great. I did a backup using the sprite backup. Now, I am not sure that had anything to do with it but my email shortcuts on my today screen disappeared and my text messaging will no longer work. When I open my start programs folder, they are both gone, I seem to have magically lost my text messaging icon and my messaging icon. I still have the htc plug in on my today screen but when I click on my text messenger icon it highlights the icon but never loads, just sits there. I cannot access my gmail or my road runner email; hell, I can't even find them anywhere on the device. Does anyone know what the heck is going on? I have searched high and low for any info and have found nada. I was thinking that maybe ATT or HTC would provide a listing of software on the rom and the file names so I could maybe try "re-installing" but again, screwed. nothing out there. I have used resco explorer and searched every inch of the tilt phone but without a listing of software and the associated filename it's freaking ridiculous. Please, if anyone has any info, no matter how small, please post; I will post a detailed fix if one is ever found.
Many Thanks,
Jasper
I have exactly the same problem . I have also run Sprite Backup but I dont think it coincided with losing messaging.
I removed some programs just before the problem but I cant remember what I removed as I was just having a tidy up.
I think I'm going to do a hard reset which should restore the messaging. Please let me know if you solved problem.
Martin
OK, this is freaky. I was just going to start this same thread.
I lost my entire messaging application last week. I think it happened after I uninstalled a bunch of apps, mostly spb apps. I tried a Sprite restore to no avail. I had to do a hard reset to get messaging back.
Just happened to me today
Along with my text messaging I also had three e-mail accounts and one e-mail sync account (to outlook). Since I can no longer get into the program, I cannot access any of the data on this device. I am running Windows Mobile 6.1 in case that helps someone come up with a solution. I will probably do a backup on my PC as well as a sprite backup and then reload the whole OS I think AT&T has a link on one of their sites to the ROM.

WM6.1 SMS deleted automatically, without doing anything

Hi all,
I have Tilt and I am very fond of messaging.
I was having a conversation through SMS with a frnd and when i was replying to one of his SMSs, all of a sudden hung a lil bit and all the SMS of his has gone.
Then later i checked, some people and sites who are regular with their SMS (3-5 SMS in day), those SMS are also gone but not the complete thread is being deleted.
I am not able to understand the pattern.
Is it like that each thread can contain only a specific number of SMSs.
And earlier i thought this might be a problem with my handset or s/w, but today one of my frnd who uses HTC 3400, had the same prob.
Kindly help. I had more than 1000 SMS in it.
Softwares installed:
SPB Pocket mobile shell 3
kaiser tweak
google maps
web cam plus
Regards,
Abhishek
while you are looking for a solution, i suggest you backup all your text messages using "pim backup"...search for it on xda
this way, you will have a backup that you can restore in case the situation gets worse and your device starts "forgetting" even more text messages
Yes, i am encounter the same problem too, where my sms been deleted automatically after soft reset my phone. Why it can be happen? any way to solve this?
Phone: Dopod 810
OS : WM6.0
ASCIIker said:
while you are looking for a solution, i suggest you backup all your text messages using "pim backup"...search for it on xda
this way, you will have a backup that you can restore in case the situation gets worse and your device starts "forgetting" even more text messages
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thanx buddy for the suggestion, but i believe ,anyones fate would not have fallen pathetically sick as mine. I had all the backups, but my hard disk also crashed.
anyways ..... still looking for a solution ... i believe theres a hidden bug in WM6.0 n 6.1
But it is hard to believe that no one till date has not escalated this issue.
Hope to find a resolution for it.
Cheers !!! (Hope if WM allowed us to)

manilla 2.1 sms bug

Im looking to change the rom on my HD and see a lot of comments about the sms bug in manilla 2.1.
Im using Orange and from what iv gathered the bug affects Orange (and a few others). What exactly IS the bug and is it worth avoiding manilla roms 2.1 because of it?
seems to be related to the interface of SMS Manila where when You wrote a message, time by time the text still pending in the outgoing folder, so the sms is not delivered.
To bypass this problem, is what I have to do, is to replay directly to the SMS default page, instead of Manila interface...
I'm not to be sure that is clear, I really hope so...
Yes there is a bug in the Manila SMS application itself. You can either make a change and use the Windows default SMS application, use a different ROM with the older Manila, or live with it
you can't send 2 messages in a row to the same person, don't know is it only from manila or generally :/
hmm, i think it is how you sync ur contacts after flashing the rom. if you use pimbackup u will get the sms problem. however, if u sync via activesync, it should be fine. thats how i worked around the problem. hope it helped :]
I never had this issue and used activesync to backup contacts/emails
i've done it via Activesync, MyPhone, PIM, all options, without restoring old texts, with restoring them (again MyPhone) and got it every single time :/
Fallen Spartan said:
I never had this issue and used activesync to backup contacts/emails
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+1
I always use activesync to backup my contacts and calendar with google's gmail and always working.
Strangely enough, it seems carrier-related as well...
there is a cab, i think is call timefix that one work for me when i got that problem

ROM with not messed up SMS threads?

Hi, is there any latest ROM that doesn't mess up SMS threads?
Dutty's R7 with HTC messaging - u can't see the whole message if it's longer than 200 chars, same with Miri V12. Also tried Miri's V30 based on Manila 2.1 - and the problem there is even more ridiculous - in a thread messages are in wrong order, first goes all my replies and then the other persons txts.
I am using Jeyo Mobile Companion and PIM to restore messages and get the same results. Any proper ROM?
i think the problem lies in the backup program, they somehow restore them in the wrong way. I think it works via myphone (at least that what i heard).
The best solution is to not sync your messages, which i do .
I don't really understand why people have to put hundreds of old text messages back on their phone, they have read them right?
Anyhow, it is related to the backupprogram and manila not working correctly. Try using topix, in that rom there are no bugs at all (but it's a wm 6.1 rom)
Not really sure that this is the problem of the restoring programs as I tried different options. Tried also Laurentius V3 - again problem with messages that don't show in full and that lay over each other.
Anyone else having same problem? Or any advices on program that actually works?
I have the same issue with text messages being out of order on NRGZs Energy Photon ROM, the new 23081 build.
The issue is down to the date/time stamp on the messages. I had my messages going out having the same time but yesterday's date on them, hence the order being all wrong. I checked through all the regional settings etc to see whether all that was ok, but nothing was wrong.
It appears not to be doing it now, but I have cleared all my messages out and soft reset a few times since, so I cannot say what was causing the issue.
if you run manila2.1, whatever rom has this cab is ok
no, that doesn't work either...The usual problem: all my messages in the beginning, if I scroll up I find other persons messages and at the very top txts for today for both of us
other ideas? I don't get it really: what's the point in all the new cabs and functions if one of the two main functions - texting and calling - doesn't work properly?
sorry fr bumping such an old thread... but have been facing this issue with all the ROMs i've tried...it's highly irritating. i some times miss imp. smses
I'll test the fix cab and report soon...
In case someone has already found a working solution. please post it here.
B.U.M.P. guys.. anybody has a solution for this?? kindly help ..
topix for sure has no messed up sms's. dunno i tried lots of m2.1 roms and if sms were messed up i installed the attached cab and they worked
If you're using a backup/restore SMS program, you should disable Threaded messaging before backuping and before restoring.
I've noticed that backup/restore SMS programs have some problems with threaded messaging, but I have never encountered the messing issue since I disable Threaded messaging before both backuping and restoring.

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