Couple of (I Hope) Easy Tilt Questions - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I had an 8125 and now I have a tilt. In making the switch I have run into a few anooying problems that I am sure someone already solved? I have looked all over the forums so if these are answered, could you please point me in the right direction?
1) The ever popular PTT issue. Took me a while but I got it going. It was interesting that there was an incompatibility between the fix and BatteryStatus. Not sure what THAT was about? But it is working now.
Soooo...How do I get button FIVE to appear on my button maps? Neither the stock button feature in the settings nor AEButton Plus shows button 5, the camera button. It would also be kewl to map the OK button on the side, but I am guessing that is too much to ask? *Blink*
2) I have set the brightness at about the medium level (that was a disappointment because I was able to set it to the lowest on the 8125) but somehow the backlight keeps going dim after a time. I have looked all over the parameters to configure this but I can't find it? How do I keep the display from going dim on me? I have the tilt set to sleep at 1 minute and I do not have the backlight going dim at all, so I don't know what else to do?
3) Now that PTT button is mapped, I did what all of you did, I set it to Voice Command. But of course the push and hold I want the convenience of RECORD like I had on the 8125. I have tried all of the shortcuts and such I could find on this site and everyone of them put the voice recorder on my screen but did NOT initiate the record feature. Is there no way to do this on the tilt? I think I remember something about a parameter? /b or something like that? I tried to find it again but I was unable to.
Thanks for your help, guys...
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ThomasMcKean said:
I had an 8125 and now I have a tilt. In making the switch I have run into a few anooying problems that I am sure someone already solved? I have looked all over the forums so if these are answered, could you please point me in the right direction?
2) I have set the brightness at about the medium level (that was a disappointment because I was able to set it to the lowest on the 8125) but somehow the backlight keeps going dim after a time. I have looked all over the parameters to configure this but I can't find it? How do I keep the display from going dim on me? I have the tilt set to sleep at 1 minute and I do not have the backlight going dim at all, so I don't know what else to do?
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Hi Welcome
Not sure bout your other two questions, but the backlight is easy
Look in Start/Settings/System/ Backlight
You want the second tab, which is for Battery Power.
There you can set the timeout for it.
PS: If you have already tried this, then sorry for pointing it out, but sometimes the obvious solution is hard to find

AEButton Plus
I am able to remap both the OK button on the side and the Camera button with AEButton PLus.
I do have a slight problem that I am looking for a solution and hope someone knows the answer. When I remapped the OK button on the side, the first press still gives me the start menu no matter what I have it set for. The second press does the function I have programmed for double press. But is there anyway to not have it give me the start menu on the first press? I have it as none in the standard WM6 buttons panel. And I have it as lock phone on AEButtonPlus for both the first press and double press. But it always requires double press to make it happen. Any ideas?
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hold comm to vibrate?

Anyone figured out how to map to a different button? This is the one feature i miss.
-mix
mixmaven said:
Anyone figured out how to map to a different button? This is the one feature i miss.
-mix
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Does this work?
That is what I tried, but there isn't a comm button on the Kaiser... It didn't work on any of the buttons I found. Does anyone know the reg key? we could probably change it to the ok/close button instead. I emailed kyphur to see if he knows...
-mix
mixmaven said:
That is what I tried, but there isn't a comm button on the Kaiser... It didn't work on any of the buttons I found. Does anyone know the reg key? we could probably change it to the ok/close button instead. I emailed kyphur to see if he knows...
-mix
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Use "Vibra Switch" then Do a seach its on XDA.
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Use "Vibra Switch" then Do a seach its on XDA.
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I tried this, and it's a good concept, except the AT&T ROM doesn't expose PTT as a possible button mapping, which means one of the existing start/PIE/messaging/ok/camera buttons would have to be sacrificed for a vibe toggle.
The superfluous PTT button is the obvious candidate for a vibrate toggle but sadly neither of the suggestions allow its use as such.
niralisse said:
I tried this, and it's a good concept, except the AT&T ROM doesn't expose PTT as a possible button mapping, which means one of the existing start/PIE/messaging/ok/camera buttons would have to be sacrificed for a vibe toggle.
The superfluous PTT button is the obvious candidate for a vibrate toggle but sadly neither of the suggestions allow its use as such.
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As the 8525 was eventually hacked for the PTT button to be useful you will have to be patient. This device is new so it takes time.
This works fine, load Vibra Switch, it will place 2 apps in the programs folder "Vibra Switch" and "Vibra Switch Delayed" (you can delete that one). Then in Settings>buttons> Select button 6, the top-left button currently used for single-press=Voice Speed Dial, press-and-hold=Recorder, re-assign the "press-n-hold button to be "Vibra Switch" and you are done.
I've been listing my tweak tries in amother thread, I can't get Bluetooth to redirect all sounds out to headset and I also can't get vjay lumos III to make the display go super bright. With no transreflective screen, this is now a very important tweak to me, I hope these can be figured out.
ahhhhh sweet. you guys are great!
-mix
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This works fine, load Vibra Switch, it will place 2 apps in the programs folder "Vibra Switch" and "Vibra Switch Delayed" (you can delete that one). Then in Settings>buttons> Select button 6, the top-left button currently used for single-press=Voice Speed Dial, press-and-hold=Recorder, re-assign the "press-n-hold button to be "Vibra Switch" and you are done.
I've been listing my tweak tries in amother thread, I can't get Bluetooth to redirect all sounds out to headset and I also can't get vjay lumos III to make the display go super bright. With no transreflective screen, this is now a very important tweak to me, I hope these can be figured out.
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Use a little app called "BTaudio toggle" it works good for me!
Love you spiro! Searched and found BTaudio.exe, Life is good! With my 8525 I had to use Mortscripts, this is easier. Pressing my Jawbone headset button launches VoiceDialer and kills the re-direct, but that's no big deal. I like that I can now launch Voicedialer.
Last tweak remaining is a single button toggle to BRIGHTEN the screen!
Vibra Switch not working
I installed Vibra Switch in my new Tilt but is working as described. Anyone knows why?
i'm not sure about the commands to switch to vibe mode ( i use phone suite) but to expose the PTT button (short and long)
try adding a couple of new reg keys 40C6 and 40C7 in HKLM/software/microsoft/shell/keys. mimic the the keys and values on 40C5 and then soft reset.... it will then show up in the button control panel.
for reference, this is where i got it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1577293
paulsuerth said:
i'm not sure about the commands to switch to vibe mode ( i use phone suite) but to expose the PTT button (short and long)
try adding a couple of new reg keys 40C6 and 40C7 in HKLM/software/microsoft/shell/keys. mimic the the keys and values on 40C5 and then soft reset.... it will then show up in the button control panel.
for reference, this is where i got it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1577293
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Yes, I can confirm this works well. I've mapped a long press of my PTT button to Vibra Switch, so I just hold it down to toggle between ring and vibrate.
RemE said:
Last tweak remaining is a single button toggle to BRIGHTEN the screen!
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I created a shortcut to the backlight application in /Windows/Programs and then mapped it to a button. A single push of that button brings up the backlight app, from there you can use the right directional button to increase brightness in steps. Biggest problem for me was adjusting brightness outside on a sunny day where the screen can not be seen - this fixes that for me.

Any way to REALLY scroll with thumbwheel ?

Hi !
I'm looking for a way to scroll with the thumbwheel (right now it's just as pressing up/down which does different things depending on the app). I know it could be done, since we have the finger scrolling which works as a REAL scroll, so if moving the thumb down would act the same as finger scrolling for 1cm, for example, than it would be a real scroll.
BTW: as i'm typing this, i'm starting to program an app to do it, so if i don't find a solution, i'l make one myself... muahahaha(evil laugh)... of course i'll share it... free.
Please tell me if you know a solution, so i don't waste my nights programming (again).
Thanks,
RPG
i haven't been able to find a solution and I looked high to low. I think the wheel should be more like a page down than arrow down.
I have never understood why you can't get it to go vertically. It does it on the program and settings but not on the today screen.
I think you are onto something here.
I saw one of the button mapping programs that allowed you to assign screen actions to buttons, but I am not sure how well it would work. If it did, I would imagine it could be pretty quirky and not the most efficient way to do in things, since you be basically reinterpreting another event. Sounds like it might be useful, but I would suggest maybe providing the ability to to toggle between the normal behavior and the true scrolling by double clicking the jog wheel button.

Vibrating dial pad buttons

On my old ETEN M600 (RIP) I had a phone pad app/skin that gave me big buttons and when a dial button was pressed the phone vibrated for a 1/4 of a second. It was great physical feedback to feel that little blip when a button was pressed and I believe it allowed me to dial numbers quicker. Anyone know of a app that enables this for the Tilt/Kaiser?
And yes I did a search for this before I posted a new thread.
Thanks
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How to set up one button press on/off with device and screen locked
Also for those that are interested. I have AE Button Plus, Ilauncher and DeviceLock by Matt Armstrong installed on my Tilt. The combination of these programs allow me to program the left softkey to turn off the Tilt. Matt's Devicelock auto locks the phone and prevents any other buttons to be pressed. When I want to use the phone I can press the left hard key that corresponds with the left soft key and that turns on the phone and unlocks it with one button push. This set up gives me one button off/on and all other keys and the screen is locked from accidental button pushes. Now I just wished that Devicelock would shut off the phone after 10 seconds if not unlocked. Right now my phone is in my pocket and if I accidentally push any button other then the left hard key my screen will turn on in a locked state and time out only after 1 minute if no other buttons are pressed. I would like it to turn back off faster.
BTW Thanks Matt
Not an app but it can be done with registry tweaking:
[It involves modifying registry keys so beware].
Navigate to HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\
In here there are a bunch of keys named Dtmf which represent all the keypad keys [0-9, #, *]
Rename Standard DWORD parameter Sound to Sound1
Create new String Parameter Sound
Assign value *vibrate* to this new parameter.
Save and exit, test it, then go back and do the same for all your keys, sorted.
A .cab for this?
Is there a .cab floating around for these reg settings?
It would be a great contribution to the community if someone could whip up a cab to make these reg changes ;-)
Wow, now that was usefull. I had installed some small prog to do the same, but it didn't work great. It wouldn't vibrate unless you pressed for a more than 250 ms. This mod vibrates immediately! Thanks!
someone should tell Kaisertweaks that that needs to go in
Here you go, working great on the TyTN II
That's what I'm talking about
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Here you go, working great on the TyTN II
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Thanks Gizmo!
I love this place. Where would WinMo be without xda-developers???
Any chance you could upload the .cab directly instead of zipped? For some reason it won't extract on my tilt and I can't get to a PC tonight.
Thanks again.
Sure thing, here you go
Installed and it is working great. This is really a great tweak!
aren't dtmf tones what are used for things like voicemail and such? like "press 7 to delete" it recognizes the sound? does this affect that at all?
I don't think this tweak has any effect on dtmf tones. I just tried my VM and everything worked as usual.
strange...i installed this on my tilt (htc rom) and when i touched a button there was no vibrate, until about 5 seconds later, it was delayed i guess, and after that i never felt another vibrate, even after a few resets.
bump.
would like to get this working.
Will this make it beep and vibrate or just vibrate? It would be cool it it could do both at once!. Also, maybe post cab to revert back to just the sound in case anyone wants to change it back?
Mikeeey,
Try holding the number down a little longer. If you just touch it, it will display the number but not vibrate.. I had the same trouble also.
I do appreciate the afford, but shouldnt it just work when it notices a keypress, not a long keypress.
You have to hold it for a little time. Thats how it works
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You have to hold it for a little time. Thats how it works
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That's how the cab file works. But when I did the registry edits as listed in the 2nd post, then it is an immediate vibrate. I used to use the cab file version. I removed that and went with the direct reg edits. Now it vibrates immediately.
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That's how the cab file works. But when I did the registry edits as listed in the 2nd post, then it is an immediate vibrate. I used to use the cab file version. I removed that and went with the direct reg edits. Now it vibrates immediately.
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Same here, works great after manual reg edit.
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Mikeeey,
Try holding the number down a little longer. If you just touch it, it will display the number but not vibrate.. I had the same trouble also.
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thanks for pointing that out dalewinterstein, it works for me now.
i did the manual reg edit to try and make it respond faster but it doesnt, actually the keys lighting up after being pressed dont respond fast enough to my presses, does this happen for anyone else? i mean if i hold it just a bit longer it will light up and vibrate but im normally faster than that.

Remap OK Button to Rotate Screen?

I'm interested in remapping the ok button (the one on the side, below the scroll wheel, not the one below the end key) to rotate the screen. However, I can't seem to find out how to do anything at all with this button. Can anyone help?
i'd like this also.
I'm wondering if maybe this has to be done within the registry?
i remember reading in a thread before this that the remapping was not possible for that OK button... but i am not sure i could be wrong
try hbutton. it lets you map about anything to the hard buttons. you can map multiple programs to one button too. i use it to map the OK button to close a program, open htc audio, and screen rotate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306794
if you are referring to the ok button on the front of the kaiser, i remapped that button to rotate the screen from; settings>buttons. i am, however, using a sim free htc tytnII. this may not be available in the network branded versions. hope this helps.
sorry misread your post, you were talking about the side one. doh! no i couldn't remap that one either.
at this moment no one can really find the registry for that button. people have tried, i read about 3 posts that had people trying and they were unsuccessfull
i am still also interested in getting that button remapped
AE button plus will remap the side button, except if you are on the today screen, where a press of the button will bring up the start menu.
i currently have it to turn off the phone, since i friggin hate how htc made the real power button so flush with the body, so that if i'm on the today screen, i press it twice quickly to power off the device. the first press brings up the start menu, then the second press will take the focus off the today screen and implement your action. likewise, hitting the side button will turn off the phone if i'm in any sort of application or anything non-today screen.
and mapping this buttom also maps the keyboard ok, so now i'm suddenly without a keyboard ok button
What exactly is this Side Ok Button for anyways? It doesnt act as a confirm button
I would also like to remap the OK button to rotate screen. When I am using Garmin I like to have it rotated for cradle and visual purposes.
Also, don't know if anyone ever noticed this. I have polarized sunglasses, and when my phone is facing up and down like in portrait mode it is not as bright as it could be, but i rotate it like it is in landscape mode and I can see perfect with them on. Weird!
Let me know if this doesn't work out. I wrote apps for the Universal once to assign to any key. But that was a long time ago. I'm sure better solutions exist now.
V
You can do it for sure with SPB Pocket Plus & the Shortcut Add-in/Plugin.
I actually made an action sender for this purpose, for another button, but if I get some time , I'll pull out my old work & look.
But SPB PP does allow it for sure. You can map two of anything to that button, one for press & one for press & hold.
Anything new on this?
I've tried some different things...still nothing.
another bump...
bump it up again...anyone know how to remap the OK button (forget the rotate screen)?

BackLight brightness adjust command line utility for Kaiser aka TYTN II

I dunno if I'm only one who has this problem but when I'm occasionally on sun I can't see nothing on my Kaiser and it's really difficult to setup backlight brightness on touchscreen which u can't see.... So I've been looking alot if there is some utility which I can link with button or gesture and I haven't found anything... So I've wrote my own utility. Feel free to use it as well if u find it useful -> http://lobster.ic.cz/?page=bl
is this useful or is there easier way to do that??
Been searching for an app like this for a week.
Works great!
Thanks.
Here's another program that gives you a today plug in for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412896
I'll b trying yours tho as I like the idea of UL with icons for up and down
Cheers,
Matthew
I made a cab with this program mapped to the PTT button. I have a AT&T Tilt, Im not sure if your phone has a PTT button or if its called something else or whatever.
With this, just run the cab then I tap the button and it changed the brightness really quickly, no menu or anything, I love it! If I walk out into the sun I just tap the button 3 times and my screen is bright.
Lobsterii, I love this program thanks a ton!
I'm glad that I could helped u out guys... actually there might be more funny stuff possible only if HTC release some documentation on theirs DLL files cos it's pain to guess arguments...
you did it all by guessing? I figured you would have decompiled the dll.
Truly excellent! I have also been looking for something like this for a long time.
I figured I might as well kick off the feature requests that always follow a new release: How about the option set both battery and power brightness with one command? Perhaps by a special switch, or by only specifying the brightness level (i.e. no 'b' or 'p' switch)? Or is there a way to do it already?
Thanks again for a useful app!
you did it all by guessing? I figured you would have decompiled the dll.
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I've read some forum where someone pointed out that backlight function should be in some dll by HTC dunno where it was... Then I was googling "dll find export function" and I've found prog "DLL Export Viewer" which can show function names in dll. Unfortunatelly there is generally impossible to find out how many/what arguments the function has. So I've found function name like HTCUtilSetOnBatteryBrightnessLevel and I've simply try prototype int HTCUtilSetOnBatteryBrightnessLevel(int); but it crashed... so I keep going like int HTCUtilSetOnBatteryBrightnessLevel(int*); and it worked... voila...
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Truly excellent! I have also been looking for something like this for a long time.
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thx alot...
I figured I might as well kick off the feature requests that always follow a new release: How about the option set both battery and power brightness with one command? Perhaps by a special switch, or by only specifying the brightness level (i.e. no 'b' or 'p' switch)? Or is there a way to do it already?
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done. + it's now compiled as an release version so it actually has 50KB less than old version... enjoy it's at the same place instead original files http://www.lobster.3web.cz/bordel/bl/index.htm...
Nice improvements! how about another a switch so that it will toggle between brightest to dimmest? So if this was used it would just go between 1 or 10 and none in between.
Thanks for implementing the feature I was looking for. A perfect application - it's small and fast, and it gets the job done with excellence.
Thank you. Works perfectly.
silentanvil said:
Nice improvements! how about another a switch so that it will toggle between brightest to dimmest? So if this was used it would just go between 1 or 10 and none in between.
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hmhm... what I wouldn't do for y... There is new version 02 (on my web at the same place) where u can setup your own sequence. Length of sequence might be from 1 to 10... values are as usual from 0 to 9... But numbers must not repeat (known feature I don't see point to solve it) so u can set something like "bl02.exe 0 5 1 9 3" or whatever else... enjoy
Report any found bugs... I mean it's super simple but it's 4 am so I'm half sleeping...
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hmhm... what I wouldn't do for y... There is new version 02 (on my web at the same place) where u can setup your own sequence. Length of sequence might be from 1 to 10... values are as usual from 0 to 9... But numbers must not repeat (known feature I don't see point to solve it) so u can set something like "bl02.exe 0 5 1 9 3" or whatever else... enjoy
Report any found bugs... I mean it's super simple but it's 4 am so I'm half sleeping...
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Awesome! Thanks so much! I've also been looking everywhere for something like this!
Awesome!
Well done! I've been looking for ages for something to do this.
How to use bl02...
Something from lobsterii that helped me:
create link in Total commander (file manager) I think its in options "File -> >>>>> -> Create shortcut" then I have another file bl02.lnk then I open properties of the lnk file, I click tab shortcut and put the text of path into "" and after it I wrote parameters so it looks like
"\Program files\bl\bl02.exe" 1 3 9
OK dumb question and first time posting so don't slaughter me. If I understand the thread correctly this will put large buttons to adjust from the Backlight screen....correct? Is there a program (other than the PTT button which I'm using) that will allow a button or swipe to adjust the brightness without having to open the brightness display? If you get far enough to open the utility then its not that hard to move the brightness up. Sorry for the dumbness of the question.
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If I understand the thread correctly this will put large buttons to adjust from the Backlight screen....correct?
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my bl02.exe doesn't put any button anywhere... it's just app which actually toggle brightness. U can try to run it via file explorer it should change brightness...
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Is there a program (other than the PTT button which I'm using) that will allow a button or swipe to adjust the brightness without having to open the brightness display?
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There is plenty of programs to map this app to buttons, finger swipes and some other crazy stuff like voice commands etc.. For example I'm using FTouchFlo (u can use FTouchSl which is easier to configure) and map backlight change for finger swipes... Most easy way is just copy blXX.exe to /Windows/Start Menu/Programs/blxx.exe and then go to Start->Settings->(tab)Personal->Buttons and link it with some buton...
I'm just now at work so have no time for more explanation... but Once I get home I'll create some FAQ at download page cos... cos it'll be easier for all of us
dont sweat it that was a perfect explanation and I now have it helped me to get it running to a button.
One other quick question though....I have S2U2. So the button doesn't work until I have unlocked it (which sometimes is hard to see going out to daylight) is there any way (easy way, Im no programmer)to allow the button to work (that is brighten the display via the button I have it mapped to) while it is still locked?
volleykinginnc said:
dont sweat it that was a perfect explanation and I now have it helped me to get it running to a button.
One other quick question though....I have S2U2. So the button doesn't work until I have unlocked it (which sometimes is hard to see going out to daylight) is there any way (easy way, Im no programmer)to allow the button to work (that is brighten the display via the button I have it mapped to) while it is still locked?
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I'm sure he won't be able to bypass A_C's S2U2, but (assuming you have a Kaiser, you didn't say) if you enable dpad in S2U2 you can always hold your right dpad button to make sure S2U2 is unlocked, even if you can't see the screen, and then hit the button for the "bl02.exe 9" link.
Ha ha...you guys are awesome! Right Dpad enabled and now it works like a charm even in the brightest sun!! Thanks for the great application...makes a big difference in usability.
Some of you experts ought to make a list of these application gems (this program/kaeser tweaks etc) to make it easy for the noobs like me. This is good stuff!!

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