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Hi all.
I am using an official HTC rom on my kaiser, with no operator software etc.
I am using the latest TomTom 6 GPS Software, from a high speed memory card. Set to use the internal GPS Receiver.
I am getting slow updates, e,.g. i go round a roundabout, and ive made the turn before its updated the screen. This is really annoying me. It does the same with different GPS Software too, I havetried increasing the baud rate, in steps, and none of which, make a difference.
Is there any way i can speed this up?
I would say, its longer than a second delay, and less than 2 seconds.
Got almost full reception, though that does see to jump about alot too, and it has good line of sight to the sky.
Thanks all!
Hi there,
That's strange. Mine is working perfectly.
Perhaps you have another process running in the background slowing things up?
I do believe that GPS acts differently depending on where one is on the globe.
Other than that, I am not sure.
Tomtom works well on mine too.
Where abouts have you installed the application to?
On mine, the app is on the kaiser & the maps, voices etc. onto the card.
I get the same with the same setup as described by the O/P. What do you expect to happen because if you want instantaneous reaction of Tomtom Navigator in these circumstances I doubt thats possible, especially without graphics acceleration assistance from hardware. I think the best way to channel your energy would be writing to HTC and Tomtom about it. Since 6.032 is a customised version of Navigator for HTCs TyTN II and is supplied by HTC then the responsibility rests with them to look into it. Since they are also in the hotseat over the missing graphics acceleration it'll be more examples for them of why they should address that issue.
it could just be a bad set up, try deleteing and reinstalling everything and run it with out any background programs active.
hi all.
Thanks for your reply, well i can confirm, it is 6.032, the one the handset comes with, i have tried a hard reset, i dont think tis a graphics issue, as i get good fps on videos and the camera etc.
Processing power wise, i dont think its that either, you can watch a demo of your route, and its alot quicker than real time navigation, with regards to screen fps and updates on roundabouts.
I can live with it, but i will contact tomtom and find out whats going on.
Nothing else is running in the background, ive disabled activesync, and any other open programs, its installed on the PDA, and the card holds the maps and data.
aNy other ideas people?
What is the best GPS software that works on the Diamond and why?
From what i can see the big ones are:
Tom Tom
iGo
Destinator
Route66
CoPilot
Google Navigator (yeah ok the wildcard!)
Do any of these have built in/downloadable speed cameras, and do any have traffic information?
I'm sure everyone is else will be asking the same question in about 1 week
Personally I like tomtom the most, it might be that im just used to it cuz I was using it for few years, Garmin mobile xt is pretty decent too. They both have speed cameras/ traffic but it's an extra service. I think traffic is free but you have to buy speed camera locations
i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps
Garmin
phankhi said:
i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps
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I have Garmin Mobile XT, it is pretty good. When you arrive at the destination, it tells you whether the address is at right or left side of the street. It is especially helpful when you are on a wide street with 2 or more lanes each side, you can be prepared to go left or right. On the other hand Tomtom does not tell you whether the address is on the right or left side of the street. Otherwise they both are comparable.
Just my 2 cents.
What is the difference between Google Navigator and Google Maps?
I´m not able to install tomtom on my diamond it does not find the maps any ideas?
best regards
Herby
I've always used Tomtom. But it hasn't been updated for two years and there is no news of a new verison coming out yet (apart from the usual rumours). I'm going to try Copilot 7.
Copilot was always good (had it years ago) but had a clunky interface. Looks pretty good now its had the interface re-done in the latest version.
Not a bad review of it here...http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/review/2007/11/01/ALK-CoPilot-Live-7-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
Don't know about Destinator or Route66. Never used them. And from other posts in this forum I don't think iGo will work. I think it will only run off a copy protected SD which rules out the Diamond, but I could be wrong on that.
Anyone know the situation with iGo?
Also any previous users have any comments about Route66 or Destinator?
IGo is locked to the micro SD card it is supplied on which is a real shame as it makes putting this application on to a device with no card slot impossible. It also makes it impossible to copy the app/ maps onto a larger card so once you have bought it you only have a small amount of free space available unless you are happy swapping cards all the time where a card slot does exist.
I would consider looking at Route 66, its a decent application although the maps are around 12 months old which seems strange for a very newly released application (version 8 for PPC). These maps are around six months more up to date than the v675 map which is the latest map release that works with TomTom Navigator 6.
Tried Destinator and never bothered putting it back on the PDA, too slow and clunky for my taste, I also have Co-Pilot Live 7 and that seldom gets used because I find the interface too slow although once you get used to it its a decent application, another one is Sygic Live, great potential but the version I used tended to route down back streets, narrow lanes etc to the extent I didn't trust it - Mike
I currently have TomTom and MioMap on my Touch Cruise.
I prefer MioMap.
I have just made the switch from CoPilot 7 to Garmin XT. Garmin seems to have more functionality- or maybe I'm more familiar with it because I have it in my car and it's EXACTLY the same interface!
mkhattab said:
What is the difference between Google Navigator and Google Maps?
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Google Navigator: http://www.pdafun.net/
So it seems everyone has their favourites! How about from a speed camera/traffic update point of view? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
It seems all of them charge for speed cameras with some anual charge, but by registering for free here you can get an up to date speed cameras POI for the UK for free. http://www.poigenie.co.uk/speed_cameras
There are also other versions around compiled from the official tomtom update and other sources.
For traffic, it seems again they all charge unless your using TMC - which the diamond doesnt have (right?).
Since iGo doesnt work i'm now split between TomTom - because eventually we'll get a v7 rom / and Garmin - because alot of people seem to like it.
I think Copilot speed camera updates are free. But they charge for Traffic info (bout £35 for 2 years ).
Do any of these sat nav apps come with card readers seen as the Diamond doesn't have an SD card slot.
I'm assuming most of these are supplied on SD card
Thanks
I have MioMap3.3 and TomTom V7 on my trinity, I by far preferr MioMap but I have to use TomTom because it has more upto date maps and knows more POST codes than MioMap.
I dont think you have to have an SD card to install either of these programs and they both work perfectly.
I have tried Tomtom, Garmin, Navigon and iGO8 and I think that iGO8 by far is the best one. I think there is a version for the Diamond but I do not know if you can by it without the phone...
It is however quiet easy to install the regular version on a Diamond even without a SD-slot. Just use the searchfunction and you will find an answer in this forum.
I have Tom Tom and it is working fine
Which Nav Soft you use, and why do you like it?
CoPilot Live 7 - 'nuf said.
Wow Scilor, you are a brave man. This has been asked many times, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=best+nav+software&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images. Not sure if a poll has been taken though. The BEST is very subjective. Maybe a better question is "what do you use". In any case, I am running away fast before the bombs come.
i like TomTom 7...i used iGo8, but its not so great, it just looks great...i am in LA, where there are plenty of buildings, but there arent any buildings for igo 8 so its kinda pointless
I have four good ones, but decided on Garmin
I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...
errrr all of them and a few more depending on what I am doing and where I am going.
EG: If I am running an off road route in my 4x4 TomTom is niether use nor ornament as it's simply all green on the map. So I use MemoryMap.
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exzist78 said:
I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.
Destinator 7, like it cause the maps are really accurate...
No, not noticeably...
I say this with a condition however; TT7 does seem the smoothest (rerouting, staying consistant, etc) however, it is slight. I noticed the iGO8 actually tends to have more laginess than the others; surely, because of the great maps and user interface. Yet, again it is slight at most, nothing too bad. I have used them both on Leos Roms (V_9), and on ROMeOS v4...As far as the Garmin version, I installed the 2009 Version, it loaded something like v. 40010w.exe; however, you can update this from the Garmin site to version 42050w.exe; they claim many improvements from the first file i have listed until the last. If you do update, I found the easiest way to accomplish this is by first installing the older version, connecting through WMDC, then updating the software that way...Good Luck...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.
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Im using AutoMap5. Its great for Poland and Europe.
Video - credits goes to author
This moment I have Navigon: it does exactly what it supposed to do, easy to use. Great forum for tricks and tips, only German. Befor Navigon I had TomTom but I refuse to buy a new product of them. (I bought a new release and within a month they simply told the pda wasn't supported anymore so I had nothing exept a empty pocket.No discussion possible.)
Nav4all....
not the best... but very, very free.
tt6 and iguidance both work great.
TOMTOM is my choice!
TTN7 FTW; the best by far IMO.
I use TT6
it was on my Kaiser
Garmin has a wonderful interface - very easy to use, finger-friendly, and functional. It also consistently locks onto a GPS signal in less than 20 seconds.
The only other app. I've used is iGuidance, which had plenty of issues:
Slow GPS lock
Clunky interface
Sluggish performance
Wait lol...Deffinetly the guy who said Nav4all is a good gps app is smokin crack...that gps app was the first gps prog I ever used ..and it was only cuz it was free and I didn't know diddly about TomTOM and that people had actually extracted it and posted it on xda..and first things first... Nav4all is like a cheap european hooker version of a gps application. The people who made that thing really must not of liked themselves..its a kmart version o what gps software should be..I never used an app that lacked everything gps software is supposed to have..it was bare bone..it could only locate maybe half of a satelite and had no turn by turn..no poi..nothing.........
But anywayz TomTom7 is by far the best and user friendly gps software out there..and u guys that are still using TT6...geezus just upgrade to TT7...why wouldn't u? such a better upgrade believe me. And for the people who don't like how the map colors look..just PAY for the more expensve colored maps and search around ull find something u like..I mean I hear that IGO and Garmin are "pretty" looking gps maps and all , but their defintely not as user friendly, as detailed and as easy to use...and im 100% sure theres nothing out their as precise and as accurate as TT7. TOMTOM7 has no lag whatso ever...and the estimated arrival time and when u actually get too the location are accurate to a T!. I mean it can't get any bettter...so until I see other gps software becoming as accurate as TOMTOM, I doubt a lot of us will be switching gps software anytime soon, just look at this simple forum poll...I mean iphone users are dying for TT to be available for the iphone..which I doubt It will be, those flunks are stuck with piss on me googlemaps Lol....
anywayz goodluck on finding a gps software u like, this is my 2 cents on it.
its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.
Shub-Niggurath said:
its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.
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Sorry for little OT, but
Wow, Lovecraft lover here?
Guys,
Anyone got a good solution for GEO Caching with my Kaiser? I would really like to leave my other GPS home and still head for some caching sites for some afternoon or weekend adventure. Any thoughts?
Geoscout kicks butt, by FAR the best one out there. I'm very impressed by the fact that it syncs (Live) with Geocaching.com, if you post a log in the field, it's updated instantly on the web site.. Very cool...
Check it out:
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp?id=prod5640731
Geoscout is seconded as the most popular solution, but there are other polished solutions also.
Check this article Geocaching with Windows Mobile.
Dont forget to switch off Static navigation.
Surur
Only problem is the Kaisers GPS isn't that good so you might have some issues with that.
I found zero Geocaching software for Windows Mobile that was worth using for the actual navigation/finding, period... Even bypassing the built-in GPS for all its fault and using my bluetooth GPS unit, none...
GeoScout is good for on-the-go data, but not the caching itself... BeeLineGPS seemed okay, but its radar screen and some other things are just.... wacky.
If nothing else, I'd say try BeeLineGPS..
My solution? I went back to using what I used on Palm, which works perfect, consistent, and I already had a very solid solution set up for getting the data files set up and ready for me to update at an time.. GeoNiche. I run it in StyleTap, and it works great.
Big problem is that GeoNiche + Styletap would run around $75. I already owned GeoNiche, and had some other stuff I also owned from Palm apps, so Styletap made a lot of sense for me.
Good luck with anything else.. I really gave BeeLine a good try, and many others (Smache, GPStuner, GPXSonar, CacheMate, etc) and just hated the navigation on all of them and the data import/update facilities for most of them.
PathAway is one I kept, but I am using it the same way I did on the Palm, and that is for hiking and marking POIs related to that. I considered trying to use it for Geocaching but it never suited me in that role on the Palm so I didn't give it another try for it.
I've been using Backcountry Navigator. I like that it allows me to download topo maps from within the program.
But I agree with austinsync, the GPS doesn't seem very good. It seems to be about 20-30 feet off from my Garmin unit, and is slow to update. It's good for finding where you are when hiking or boating, but not really good enough for Geocaching.
I second Beeline. I only wish it had maps.
As for the accuracy, I suggest trying different Radio Roms. My current Radio (1.58.25.17) works best for me. I'm usually within 5 ft of my friends Garmin. Other radios, I've been off as much as 60ft.
Great info guys.
Thanks for all the posts guys. I looked at GEOScout which is working quite well, but holy crap $40 Ouch! I'm going for Beeline next and then Backcountry navigator.
I am completely fine with the accuracy of the GPS as I prefer a challenge when caching anyway. I have also seen the radio set make a huge difference in how far off it is. I am currently using NEON 1.65.24.35 radio and is seams VERY close to my buddies Garmin (he's pissed cuz he bought a very expensive Garmin that made my Kaiser look cheap ).
Keep them coming, I want to find as many as possible so I can find the one that works best for what I'm doing. You guys are awesome for not giving me the usual "google it answer", That's awesome!
Sorry NEON for putting wrong radio info
My setup:
CacheMate (http://www.smittyware.com/ppc/cachemate/) to store information about the caches and to pinpoint the exact location of a cache. I usually build a pocket query and import the GPX file into CacheMate. When out cache-hunting I start off using Garmin (see below) and when I'm close to the cache I switch to CacheMate's compass window which tells me the distance and direction to the cache.
Garmin Mobile XT to locate the cache on a map. I've loaded Garmin with a map made for outoor life (i.e. not driving) that shows elevation, paths, swamps etc. What makes Garmin great for geocaching is that with a browser plugin you can send the location of a cache from geocaching.com directly to your Kaiser via the ActiveSync connection.
Hi
I had success caching with Tracky http://www.trackthisout.com/. It allows searches of nearby caches, you can download full page descriptions, and uses google maps. I found the GPS to be accurate enough. Sometime having an areal view can really help find the cache (Oh...THAT tree!). It takes a while to get used to, but once you have got it it does work really well.
It has been a bit buggy lately, but support is good. There is a free trial.
hallo
is it possible to let navigation software (like igo) to work directly with the gps without the program externalGPS, i know that in this case it will be possible for only one program to use gps at a time, but this is no problem for me.
dont you think that gps lags are because of this externalgps software?
can anyone tel me how to not load externalgps?
thanx
lagging is not to do with the software.
Lagging occurs in some versions of Tomtom which doesn't require externalgps, therefore i can safely say that the lagging isn't to do with the software. I heard the latest Tomtom the lagging is a lot smaller and not so noticeable anymore.
I am a Touch Pro owner but I think the gps part is quite same. I think you actually can have multiple programs accessing the built in gps. The externalgps software is maybe a useless extra by the way?