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TyTN II Announced

Just found the following article on the register - looks quite nice!!
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/28/htc_launches_tytn_2/
Cheers
Darren

Dammit all to hell, you beat me...
Yes I want one and my contract is due for renewal in 3 months... yeah baby.

More info here
http://www.europe.htc.com/htctytn2.html
Looks very nice...

Well
Its the kaiser, isn't it?

gerald_s said:
Well
Its the kaiser, isn't it?
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Yes, of course.
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Starfury said:
Dammit all to hell, you beat me...
Yes I want one and my contract is due for renewal in 3 months... yeah baby.
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Allot of you might not know this but they can upgrade you well before your contract is up. I am getting the kaiser cough cough I mean tilt cough cough I mean 8925 LOL hopefully when it hits the shelves maybe even sooner but it definitely looks like it brings allot to the table.

Is this phone thinner than the TyTn 1?
That would be the only thing that would make me even consider changing.

Think it's marginally thinner. Only by a few mm.
k-c

has anyone else noticed that the Sliding keyboard opens the other way than the Hermes??? the D pad is on the left, rather than the right! personally that will take me some getting used to playing Snes will be awkward to begin with! it makes the device look weird as its on the other side

Old news...
Seen it already.
Gears has had the review up for a week or so now.
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article727.html
Bloomin' nice piece of kit though...
Or have a look-see direct... http://tytnseries.htc.com/

Most importantly, what nice apps might trickle over to our Tytn 1... ;-) Isn't this baby supposed to have touchflo, business card scanner etc....

looks like its a bit more advanced than Announced..
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_TYTN_II.html
who's got a spare 500quid to buy one

Wondering how the battery life will hold up...
Does anyone have any additional info on the battery life? Seems like it will take a beating with GPS and everything else running...
That being said...I can't wait to get my hands on one
Cheers,

GilesTheAlmighty said:
has anyone else noticed that the Sliding keyboard opens the other way than the Hermes??? the D pad is on the left, rather than the right! personally that will take me some getting used to playing Snes will be awkward to begin with! it makes the device look weird as its on the other side
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I cant find a decent SNES emu for the hermes.. and also, how are u playing it using the touch screen?

i have PocketSNES 1.12.200 and it runs well, and i use the hardware buttons; Email for jump, Dpad for move ... my point in my post was that i have the DPad on the Right, whereas onthe Kaiser the Dpad is on the Left

I have a good friend that works at an att store and he told me that he actually got a chance to play with it in his meeting with the htc reps. He said it felt pretty solid physical, and software wise! He also said it could be out as soon as sometime sept and the only thing that htc will be dismissing in this unit is the IR! but who uses that anyways right lol! Oh yeah and he also said the unit he played with also had the front cam, so its quit possible att might be intorducing video calling for this unit!

princeasi said:
I have a good friend that works at an att store and he told me that he actually got a chance to play with it in his meeting with the htc reps. He said it felt pretty solid physical, and software wise! He also said it could be out as soon as sometime sept and the only thing that htc will be dismissing in this unit is the IR! but who uses that anyways right lol!
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Get your friend to dump that rom and get it to our talented chefs...

Trust me, it would be a waste even if he had that kinda access to the the phone, I'm the one that hip him to the 8525's, for a min he thought blackberry's and the iphone was the ****, plus hes has no idea about rom dumping, I tried to introduce him to this site and got all confused with the info lol! sorry!

Looks great, but the GPS, camera and tilting screen isn't enough to get me to upgrade just yet. I'll wait till the TyTN III

dang I didn't realize the GBP to Dollar ratio till I saw some of the european pre-order cheapness....then converted it to USD

Tmobile MDA Vario III vs HTC TYTN II please help clear the air...

Hi there all, this is my first post and after a quick search (and please be aware that I suck at the search) I couldnt find any thoughts regarding if one version is better than the other... I am in china at the moment and my l7 is going tits up so I will be replacing it in about 12 hours and I want to get the TYTN II and have been offered the tmobile vario III as well... is there any major difference here or is one version as good as the other? thanks in advance for any help...

It's the same phone.. one just branded by t-mobile.

ok thats cool thanks for the heads up...

Only differnce is the casing is slightly different, the tmobile one looks slightly better

No it doesn't

Nikumba said:
Only differnce is the casing is slightly different, the tmobile one looks slightly better
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I disagree T-mobile one looks fugly..only thing thats better about it is that its cheaper lol.

~T-mobile one looks cheap. Vodafone is nicer .HTC is the best !

the tmobile branded kaiser is god awful ugly. wtf is wrong with tmobile. they completely **** up every phone they touch. looks wise anyway

ericc191 said:
the tmobile branded kaiser is god awful ugly. wtf is wrong with tmobile. they completely **** up every phone they touch. looks wise anyway
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Well at least the Vario III isn't half pink like my Vario I was! (which is also the reason I got a HTC version this time around )

Thanks for all the replies... Glad to know its just cosmetic and the functionality is still the same... I also prefer the HTC looks to the Tmobile... many thanks to all and off I got to get a new phone... woo hooooo....

Chainfire said:
Well at least the Vario III isn't half pink like my Vario I was! (which is also the reason I got a HTC version this time around )
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Smart move. I would have picked up a Kaiser also but ****.. 400 for a tilt - 800 for a kaiser.. HMMM. Front VGA Cam.. whoopti doo. it isnt worth 400 bucks lol

ericc191 said:
Smart move. I would have picked up a Kaiser also but ****.. 400 for a tilt - 800 for a kaiser.. HMMM. Front VGA Cam.. whoopti doo. it isnt worth 400 bucks lol
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Haha I can understand that I've been a very long time customer with T-Mobile and the store I got it both, so I got a really sweet deal, and in such a way it is complete tax-deductable so in the end I really didn't pay anything at all.
For once, I have been able to do something like that If the difference was $400 I am sure I would've gotten a branded one as well! Though do note that at the time I got it, the T-Mobile branded version wasn't out yet, so I didn't yet know if was half pink or not - which it is now clear it isn't.

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Smart move. I would have picked up a Kaiser also but ****.. 400 for a tilt - 800 for a kaiser.. HMMM. Front VGA Cam.. whoopti doo. it isnt worth 400 bucks lol
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Exactly, difference is just the price and for the tilt the front cam.
I ended up choosing between €229 for vario 3 of €549 for a unbranded HTC.
And the sneaky part was, the HTC had to be ordered, and the vario 3 was on stock in the store easy choice.. it isn't to bad after sugarcubing the T-Mobile logo.

Ok I have now just picked up my tmobile tytn/vario III/kaiser (depending on who you talk to)... they didnt have any HTC style phones at all where I am at and I went to a few mobile markets to look... so far really really really happy with my new toy... dammit I mean important piece of learning equipment (which is what I tell the wife )... I have just started playing with it and will now change the language to english before attempting any thing else... cheers all for the help...

Shadowdh said:
Ok I have now just picked up my tmobile tytn/vario III/kaiser (depending on who you talk to)... they didnt have any HTC style phones at all where I am at and I went to a few mobile markets to look... so far really really really happy with my new toy... dammit I mean important piece of learning equipment (which is what I tell the wife )... I have just started playing with it and will now change the language to english before attempting any thing else... cheers all for the help...
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Congrats on your purchase man. Stay tuned for a driver update to unleash the true power of this beast!

ericc191 said:
Congrats on your purchase man. Stay tuned for a driver update to unleash the true power of this beast!
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Thank you kindly good sir... I will indeed.. I have to say that this site is pretty damn awesome but oh man the reading I am having to do is a bit overwhelming... so much to learn...

Shadowdh said:
Thank you kindly good sir... I will indeed.. I have to say that this site is pretty damn awesome but oh man the reading I am having to do is a bit overwhelming... so much to learn...
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You'll get used to things here pretty quickly. When I first registered, I was kinda overwhelmed as well but the people here at XDA are awesome and majority of the time they kindly help.
I got to the point where when I wake up, I check the Kaiser forum and the Kaiser Upgrading forum. A couple hours later I check again. Before I knew it, I was addicted to this site!

LOL... yeah I can see how that happens... I have been on here for about 7 hours so far just reading and trying to figure it all out... just did the hardspl thing and now to figure out how to get it to display english as well as Chinese which I gather cant be done unless you use some third party programs like CE Star or Monster Chinese etc... well getting english would be good for now...

just in case this hasnt been mentioned - i got rid of the tmobile branding on my uk mda vario III with a coin. very very simple, 2 mins work, just rubs off and hasnt left a single mark at all.
makes the phone look a million times nicer
dont be worried to do it uk users!

I am pretty ok with the tmobile branding... especially now that I have used it for a bit and seen what it can do... can you marry a phone...?

Upgrade Advice

I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?

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I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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If you can't upgrade until May then you'll get little joy out of Orange I'm afraid. You have to be in the last three months of your contract before they'll let you upgrade. However, saying that you've got nothing to lose by calling them and you may be able to get a deal if you change your package to a more expensive one.
Cal them first before going the eBay route - as I said you've got nothing to lose.
Is it worth it? Hell, yeah! I was torn between the Diamond and waiting for the Pro, but impatience got the better of me and I plumped for the Diamond.
Even though I've only had it a day I can definitely say that it is fantastic! It's up to you if you want to wait for the Pro. I've come from a TyTN II myself and I sat back and really thought about it before going for the Diamond, and basically asked myself two questions:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
2. How much free space did I have on my 4Gb SD card? 2.5Gb, so for me having 4Gb of non-upgradable storage wasn't an issue.
The final thing that swung it for me was the size of the thing. It's good to have a PDA that's "phone sized", rather than being a huge brick.

Thats a good idea Have a word with Orange and twist there arms, see what you can do. I think my missus is due an Upgrade in August and im sure she will go for the Diamond (but as shes skint, I think shes gonna put it on eBay!!!!!!!)
I love my diamond and have used phones with hardware keyboards and like the post above says, how often do you really use it?
Software professionals and IT gurus would probably miss it as im sure using a hardware keyboard and using the Remote Desktop software is a great combination, but the VGA screen is excellent on the Diamond, its the best phone ive ever owned (and ive had quite a few...see my signature!)
Diamond = Thumbs up. Theres sooo much software and tweaks out at the moment with more software coming out just around the corner!
The futures bright, the futures...errr...Diamond? hehe!

Teppic24 said:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
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Wow, how did you cope without the keypad? I think I probably use it 10-20 times a day and this is the main reason I'm holding back on upgrading I guess.
It looks a fantastic piece of kit... but I don't think I'd like using an onscreen keyboard

How long have you been with Orange?
If it's over a couple of years remind them how much money they have had off you and if that doesn't work tell them you will consider cancelling the contract. Generally they want to keep customers so will eventually give in.
Also, it's always good to ask to speak to their line manager if they can't help.

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hi, got to send my phone back again, so have decided instead of using the crap razr i will buy a cheap used phone from ebay. one that still can be used to receive emails and other info like my x1.
i want a htc, so hear are my choices
htc touch
htc duel touch (nike)
im think the htc nike is the better of the 2.
anyone got any other phones that could be good, please remember im looking for a cheap phone (not a replacement for the x1) about £70-80.

Ganondolf said:
anyone got any other phones that could be good, please remember im looking for a cheap phone (not a replacement for the x1) about £70-80.
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Why are you ready to spend so much money just for a replacement phone?!

Firefall! said:
Why are you ready to spend so much money just for a replacement phone?!
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it takes about 2-3 weeks to get the phone repaired, this is the third time in less than a year that i have sent the x1 back.
in the 2-3 weeks period i cant get emails, stocks and other needed info on the spare phone i have (think its a razr v8) what makes like hard. i want a windows mobile phone where i can backup all my pim data and restore it on the temp phone so that i keep getting the needed data.
but wanted a half decent handset.
its quiet upsetting that i cant get on with my life/work because sony does not sort out the cracking problem.
its only been about 2 weeks since i got it back and it cracked 4 days in and they just tell me to send it back for repair (another 2+ weeks)

I would pick the nike from the two you have listed. What price are you looking at?

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I would pick the nike from the two you have listed. What price are you looking at?
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there is a couple on ebay for about £40 with 4 hours to go, want to pay about £65 but will go to about £80 including postage

Sounds good. It is always useful to have a backup device lying around anyway, so it will be a meaningful purchase.
I'm usually using my old N95 as a backup device, but I recently got a Tytn 2 from a friend really cheap, because I have always liked it haha.

nike is better
apart from 1 thing
elf got wifi

Rudegar said:
nike is better
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elf got wifi
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yh i noticed this what seemed a bit weird but i have unlimited data on my contract so dont really use wifi so not too bad for me.
do u this it would be able to rum wm6.5 smoothly? i know there are 6.5 roms on the nike but wondering what sort of drain it would cause to the handset?

G: I'm facing the exact same problem (sending in X1 thus losing essential things like calendar etc) and made the exact same decision: buy a backup. I wanted a phone with a fast processor so got an unlocked LG Incite for 120 USD. It's not HTC, but it has nice specs and with some tweaking is pretty sweet. It'll become a dedicated GPS when I get my X1 back.

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G: I'm facing the exact same problem (sending in X1 thus losing essential things like calendar etc) and made the exact same decision: buy a backup. I wanted a phone with a fast processor so got an unlocked LG Incite for 120 USD. It's not HTC, but it has nice specs and with some tweaking is pretty sweet. It'll become a dedicated GPS when I get my X1 back.
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just had a look, its a nice second phone, could not find it for sale in the uk. maybe its a us only handset.

just bought a touch duel from ebay. £70 with p&p. its a unused warranty replacement. currently lock to orange (im with o2) but im looking to put a custom 6.5 rom on it anyway so dont matter.

Congrats and feel free to post your thoughts on the experience .

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Congrats and feel free to post your thoughts on the experience .
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when i receive the phone i will let u knowhow good it is.
ps. not expecting it to be anywhere near the x1, ok it will have better build quality

Ganondolf said:
when i receive the phone i will let u knowhow good it is.
ps. not expecting it to be anywhere near the x1, ok it will have better build quality
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Haha indeed .

Ganondolf said:
it takes about 2-3 weeks to get the phone repaired, this is the third time in less than a year that i have sent the x1 back.
in the 2-3 weeks period i cant get emails, stocks and other needed info on the spare phone i have (think its a razr v8) what makes like hard. i want a windows mobile phone where i can backup all my pim data and restore it on the temp phone so that i keep getting the needed data.
but wanted a half decent handset.
its quiet upsetting that i cant get on with my life/work because sony does not sort out the cracking problem.
its only been about 2 weeks since i got it back and it cracked 4 days in and they just tell me to send it back for repair (another 2+ weeks)
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Bro, just used the Razor. Then when your perfect upgrade comes out, buy that phone. Then use your X1 as your temporary phone. This way you don't have to use sub-par devices.

poetryrocksalot said:
Bro, just used the Razor. Then when your perfect upgrade comes out, buy that phone. Then use your X1 as your temporary phone. This way you don't have to use sub-par devices.
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what i was think is wait till the x2 comes out and by that time i would be on my 4th or 5th (maybe even 6th) x1. then make a big fuss and see if i can get it changed for a x2. (in the end sony will have to keep replacing the x1 till they run out of parts, then they will have to give me a x2).

Still worth buying?

Hey guys,
I'm currently using an Xperia X1, and frankly still happy with it..
However, I've fallen in love with the Android platform and the versatility it offers which I don't find on my Xperia.
But, since I'm pretty attached to having a physical keyboard, the HTC Hero is nothing for me, and i don't trust Motorola, so the G1 is the only option left.
My questions to you are, do you think it's still worth buying, and how will it hold up to the upcoming phones that are released?
Regards,
Ryu

I can't predict the future.... Right now the G1 is your best option if you want a hardware keyboard.

Fingerlickin said:
I can't predict the future.... Right now the G1 is your best option if you want a hardware keyboard.
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I can predict the future. I just bought a slightly used crystal ball from ebay and it's telling me you will find long lasting happiness with a g1.

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nice supreme, is that why you was downloading porn all night? Did your slightly used crystal ball tell you there's absolutely no sex in the near future for you?

the g1 is gonna have the most support compared to the moto and the lg, you know where to look when you have a question Im sure the development will go on for years, check out the dash (excalibur) how olds that phone and there is still development going on there keeping it up to par with 09 phones.

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nice supreme, is that why you was downloading porn all night?
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I thought that was you tryin to peak in my window last night. You left your greasy fingerprints.
Fingerlickin said:
Did your slightly used crystal ball tell you there's absolutely no sex in the near future for you?
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That was the magic mirror that told me that.

ryu002 said:
Hey guys,
I'm currently using an Xperia X1, and frankly still happy with it..
However, I've fallen in love with the Android platform and the versatility it offers which I don't find on my Xperia.
But, since I'm pretty attached to having a physical keyboard, the HTC Hero is nothing for me, and i don't trust Motorola, so the G1 is the only option left.
My questions to you are, do you think it's still worth buying, and how will it hold up to the upcoming phones that are released?
Regards,
Ryu
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i would wait a month or so and see how the holiday phones stack up.

There are 2 or 3 android phones to be released in the coming months. I recall seeing an internal memo from T-Mobile a few months back. I want to say there was a G2 scheduled for release (with a hard keyboard) and another phone w/o a keyboard to be released in the latter half of October and early November.
I couldn't find the memo, but here's an article worth checking out.