I've been using my Tilt for tethering since some jerk stole my last laptop and made off with my Sprint PCS EVDO Rev. A card Until I receive a replacement I'm using the tilt. I've tried using the three methods above for tethering while in the car or on the ambulance (EMT here) during downtime. I decided to spend a few minutes doing some tests to see which is the most efficient, with pros and cons for each. Below are the results. Each speed test is the result of an average of 3 tests via speedtest.net I am on the AT&T network, in Atlanta, GA on HSDPA. The phone was locked onto WCDMA / HSDPA so there were no drops into EDGE. I used the wap.cingular access point. Phone was plugged into the 1A wall charger, with a high charge. Left the phone in the same place for all of the tests. Below are the results, for fun, compared with my Treo 750 via bluetooth.
Kaiser:
BT DUN:
Down: 991
Up: 321
Pros: Can start anytime from laptop without necessary interaction with handset. Speeds statistically same as ICS.
BT ICS:
Down: 1010
Up: 320
Con: Have to start program on phone that uses more RAM, connection doesn't appear as stable as DUN connection, program can end or hang.
WMWifiRouter:
Down: 1027
Up: 328
Pros: Most stable (IMHO) of the wireless tethering options. Slower lag/ping time. Speeds are just a touch better, not much different. Can share connection with multiple PCs. Range drastically better, better resistance to outside interference, and doesn't affect bluetooth headsets.
Cons: Causes problems with data connection being used from the phone (basically makes data connection unuseable on the phone side)NOTE: this applies to the freeware version only, it would appear they have solved this in the new trial version. Uses a LOT of power...when plugged into a 500ma car adapter, battery still drains, just more slowly. Charges VERY slowly over 1A charger. Heats phone / battery up due to high power useage. Program uses RAM more ram than other options because it runs ICS in the background on top of WMWifiRouter.
This is my personal favorite for tethering for long periods of time because its much more stable than it's bluetooth brethren.
If interested, can be found here:
Freeware, (older version):
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/wmwifirouter.shtml
Current commerical version, in beta. Will be pay for use after beta.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/consumer/
And just for fun, my slower, low-res but oh-so-easy-to-use-one-handed,
Treo 750:
BT ICS:
Down: 523
Up: 289
NOTE: For those not familiar, the Treo 750 w/ the official WM6 update is HSDPA but only has BT 1.2 instead of the 2.0EDR on our Kaisers.
Hope this is helpful to those weighing their tethering options. These speeds are for reference only, and are on the AT&T HSDPA network in Atlanta, GA. I used speedtest.net on an Atlanta server. I'm sure other test sites would've given different speeds, but the tests were really more for comparison than "I got XXXX KBPS with my kaiser".
-Dre
Great article, I link to it from my related ones.
Question, are there any settings that need be tweaked to get version 0.91 to work? I get "connecting...WLAN is on! Waiting for ICS. I can see the WMWIFI access point and connect, but no data. Any help would be appreciated.
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tpeazy said:
Question, are there any settings that need be tweaked to get version 0.91 to work? I get "connecting...WLAN is on! Waiting for ICS. I can see the WMWIFI access point and connect, but no data. Any help would be appreciated.
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Do you have ICS installed?
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Does anyone knows what's the actual wi-fi speed, wich the Kaiser is capable of?
If the hotspot speed is 25 Mbits/s etc., will the Kaiser suports that?
Can anyone compare the w-fi speed with SAMSUNG SGH-i600, on the i600 according to http://gsm.mag-city.ru the speed is approx. 1 MByte/s?
Thanks
Tried your posted site for speed test, but it's all in Russian ??? Anyone know of a mobile site for comparisons.
Use that url directly on the PDA device it will detct the speed via UMTS/HSDPA or WI-FI:
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
Ok I got 140 Kbit/sec and a .686s latency from The Netherlands on T-Mobile 3G.
You should not use 3G when testing the Wi-Fi speed.
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Ok I got 140 Kbit/sec and a .686s latency from The Netherlands on T-Mobile 3G.
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oops missed that bit, got 1003 K/bits on that.
Is it rue that the wi-fi speed available on the PDA depends from the CPU speed?
Davebravey, how fast is your WLAN accsess is it as fast as the TYTN II WLAN adapter or faster (than 1003 Kb/s)?
My main connection is 6Mb/s - 768 Kb/s ADSL, Using a 54G WiFi AP and I was less than a meter away when i done the test.
Can you do the same test but on your PC web browser?
Is it reporting the same speed?
I mean the same speed as the TYTN II?
Doesn't work on my PC web browser, connections too fast
Choose the option "larger file->1 MB"
still too fast
OK thanks, anyway do you think your PDA is brawsing with slower speed than the one wich capable of-6Mb/s are enough suitable for the TYTN II's wi-fi?
I find it a little slower than my laptop when connected to the same router.
Happy to find this thread as I'm seeing problems with wifi speed on my Kaiser. It works ok when you're right next to the AP but speed quickly falls as you move away, say 10 meters or walk around the house if you look at the Wifi menu the level quickly falls and the speed drops down to 1Mbps (about 140kbps on dslreports). This is not the case with the old PDAs I have hanging around like the Axim X50, HTC Galaxy, HP 6915 or the Qtek 9000. And yes I pushed the wifi slider all the way left for maximum performance.
I'm suprised that no review (at least those I found) mentioned that or maybe it's my unit that has a problem. The "x" is shot on the keyboard so I need to have it changed, will report back with any improvement.
The good news is that HSDPA speed is good, 500+ on dslreports and bursts at 800+ using GPRS Monitor, but that won't help if you're abroad.
Why are you all so bothered what speed you are getting? LOL
You hardly need fast access for browsing or even streaming a video
Not sure why you bothered posting this, but obviously I bothered to post because it's a problem to me, like not being able to stream a 160kbps MP3 file where I usually do it with the old HTC Galaxy. Now if we can get back on topic ?
hello yall.
I'm experiencing the same problems with my kaiser (vodaphone branded v1615). i'hve checked my bandwidth being at 50 cm ob the router and and i've an average of 700 kb. being in my bed (approx 4 meter) it falls at 300 kb. The problem is that i can surf on the web being on my bed + i can't run viewerVnc to control my desktop. Anyone has any idea ?
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
kylez64 said:
I ran a speed test at mobilespeedtest.com and got this
I think its way too good to be true, is anyone else at this speed?
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If it goes through a proxy it will screw things up. I once did a GPRS test (on an SE W580i) and got 40kbps with the SE browser. On opera mini it would tell me I was on 56MB
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
kylez64 said:
I did the test off and on now with around the same results
it says compared to other isps its about 9 times faster, i thought for sure there was an error, or just extremely lucky.
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try some other speed test site
mobilespeedtest.com says my 3g speed is 11907 Kbps oO
lukluk says my max speed is 619 Kbps
Xtreme lab's speedtest app says my d/l speed is 447 Kbits/s
speed testing - the badass way
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
d0ugie said:
Okay if you want to do this right, first turn off any compression you may have enabled in Connections. Tether up a laptop with wmwifirouter (grab a trial). Might as well turn up your wifi strength on the phone but that may not matter. On the computer make sure you've got no crap running in the background that uses bandwidth including IM and p2p obviously on either the phone or the computer. Fire up a browser and do multiple tests from multiple servers on http://speakeasy.net/speedtest.
When you're done, for good measure, repeat but tethering through usb not wifi. I believe wifi may be faster than wifi and it does matter when you're testing a connection with possible but very unlikely throughput in the neighborhood of six bonded T1 lines.
Doug
edit: Sometimes carriers and ISPs cheat on their customers' bandwidth testing by packet bursting, shaping, throttling and proxy tricks. Since you're seeing insane (and most likely erroneous) speed results and if you want to bother getting to the bottom of this, in addition or instead of doing what I said, tether up with your computer, install this little simple bandwidth meter (on the computer) which I attached and download this 256.5MB copy of OpenBSD from this mirror on your computer:
ftp://filedump.se.rit.edu/pub/OpenBSD/4.5/amd64/install45.iso
And watch your bandwidth meter. Also fire up your best stopwatch and clock the full download and do some math to get the speed.
While you're at it figure out a way to upload a >10MB file somewhere and clock that too. Be advised your throughput testing may be confounded by the time of day and your carrier's network saturation in addition to your signal strength which might vary if you've got your laptop screen in between your phone and the path to the nearest tower.
Wow I guess I turned this into a big project.
edit: if you don't have access to another machine or are too lazy to do the tethering thing at least use dslreports/mspeed to download a 1MB test as opposed to mobilespeedtest.com's 512KB.
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well I did this and got around 1-2 mbps witch is still very good for me
one can always dream though lol
weather it be wifi or wired tether, it loads websites extremely slow, despite the fact of a good test speed on my phone, any idea of why this is happening?
jad011 said:
weather it be wifi or wired tether, it loads websites extremely slow, despite the fact of a good test speed on my phone, any idea of why this is happening?
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Wifi thether or whichever cant procees your IC's full speed. The G1 is limited by the data chip inside, so internet speeds wil be slower then your desktop/laptop.
Same for me. I've done a lot of testing on this. Any sort of tethering, for me, will not yield xfer speeds in excess of about 700k. That's over USB or BT. My phone itself is capable of around 3000k on Wifi (using the Speedtest apk), but much slower through the browser. Max speed tethering over Wifi won't be known till T-Mo starts rolling out HSDPA. But based on the 3000k link over the phone's Wifi, I'm hopeful that a HSDPA-to-Wifi speeds could be in excess of 700k.
Hi All
Had my HD7 for a few weeks now and im liking it, used to be an IPhone user but thats all changed now.
One thing i want to know is that the HD7 is stated as having wireless N capabilities. When im on my wireless N network at home im getting really slow responses from the browser or when downloading apps from the market place (like im on GPRS or non wifi). I have a wireless N network setup and also have 50mb Cable so its not a problem with the LAN/WAN as i can download lightening fast with the lappy or even when i had the Iphone on the same LAN.
Anyone else noticed that the wifi is not very fast? Also is there a "speed test" app that can tell me the sorta speed im getting, used to be one on the Iphone, but obviously cant be flash based, which are most on the web. Did find one non flash based site but im not convinced its that good.
Any advise is appreciated.
I use tracert's non-flash based bandwidth meter and seem to get low reading as well. my max. bandwidth is 15 Mbps yet my HD7 usually tests well below 10 Mbps. Odd. In terms of downloads though, my HD7 is speedy. I downloaded NFS from Xbox Live and calculated it was downloading at about 1 MB/s (which is fair for a 15 Mbps connection). So maybe the speed tests are off.
no problems for me.
It's weird that on IE on the HD2 you could use speedtest.net to test speeds, but on the hd7, it says you don't have the proper flash installed....
Hd 7 dosent support flash yet, maybe with update next year.. as far as I know this is the best device for my wifi although its not N
Hero used to struggle with my wifi but the hd 7 is super brilliant..
Just love it on this one
No problems here. And when it comes to browsing this thing is a pure joy ! Imagine when they will update the browser with Flash 10.1 and overall speed. I browsed today a little longer then usual and when I got home and turned my PC on it all felt boring. This is the first time I am experiencing a far more enjoyable browsing on my phone rather than my PC.
They have done an amazing job
mmm must just be mine then, an app from marketplace on the phone took about 3 minutes to download while on wifi and its just a small notes app. Weird! Ill keep having a look at whats going on.
It's surely something with your phone or with the WLAN. When I am home I am browsing only via WiFi and in my room I only get low signal but even then it runs pretty fast.
I have to disable cellular data and 3g to make my WiFi fast on my hd7. I'm on tmobile and in an edge coverage area. It seems that the phone prefers cellular data over WiFi even when there is a clear speed advantage in WiFi.
I have experienced zero problems with the HD7 over wifi. This is also with T-Mobile coverage in an edge only area. Settings allow for all network types including 3G.
Well im surprised because my experience in Puerto Rico with the hd7 on the internet speed its noe the best.
When use the app's for speed test never come colse to 1 mega and the faster speed its around 400 kpbs its T-Mobile or the phone really i'm think its the phone because my wife have an Lg optimus with android and the same t-mobile but the speed its around 1.2 and 1.5 mbps so if any one have the solutions wow i'm apreaciate to hear about.
I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?
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I say slow because they are much slower that a Galaxy S4 and Note 3. At work today we were testing out a Belkin AC router to a cable modem. Using the Speedtest.net app the galaxy's were reliably hitting 200-210 Mbs download speeds. My new One was only able to muster 95Mbs down. I come home and connect to my ASUS N66 router and I'm able to hit 104Mbs reliably. What gives? This makes no sense to me. I verified I had a 433 Mbs link when on the AC router at work, same as the Samsungs, we were all in the same location I even tried standing where they were and holding the phone differently in-case I was blocking the antenna. I never expected to be able to get 104 down at home standing one room and 30 feet for the router. Is there something weird going on with the app maybe?
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In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced
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In WiFi advanced settings, disable WiFi optimization - other uses stated it helped them to increase the speeds.
Settings>WiFi>Advanced
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Thanks I read that and tried it to no avail. Speeds were better yesterday at 150Mbs and inline with a coworkers brand new ONE running 4.3. I believe it is just a matter of how HTC deals with packet size (windowing) and not truly indicative of throughput capability. The test runs for a limited time and the throughput increased throughout the entire test. If it ran longer it would climb higher but just how high is the question.
It's a matter of curiosity more than anything as I never need those speeds nor are the repeatable anywhere but in that test"lab" In reality I only have a 100M connection at home and with power boost see speeds of 150 max. I get 100+ reliably (5Ghz N network) to the phone from my main living space and that's nothing to complain about.
I will have to say the range on the ONE is outstanding. My desk is 100 feet from the AP and I was able to obtain 125Mbs reliably from my desk. I didn't have the chance to compare it to the S4 at that distance but I can't complain about that speed.