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Should I buy this phone?

I nearly bought this phone tonight before T-Mobile decided to charge me full price. I decided ebay might be a better place to buy one instead of paying 500 dollars for an iphone wannabe. It looks like a nice phone. I really like the wifi feature. I intend to use the wifi in my home as I already have wifi though out the house in use with my wifes computer and my PS3. It seemed like it would fit nice. I want to be able to surf the internet and maybe use google maps and google talk via the phone and wifi. I assume that can be done. After reading a few reviews though I put a screeching halt on my ebay bids. The phone seems to suffer from serious memory issues. Every negative review dealt with the memory or lock ups which I assume were also memory related. It appears the phone ships with a slow processor and not enough memory. I have no problems with buys a microSD card in the 2 to 4 gig range if that will solve the memory issues. I intended on buying one anyway for the application storage. Will the additional memory solve the issues with the phone? Are there updates to the phone that will correct these issues possible since many of the reviews were written? Are there currently SAFE work arounds that would correct the memory issues? I am no stranger to fooling around with this type of thing but at 300 dollars and considering that I am buying on ebay, I'm affraid i wont be in a position to gamble with the phone. If made the purchase through T-mobile I could possibly return the phone but ebay is another matter. Many of the sales are final. I dont want this phone if it requires flashing Rom's or extensive worj arounds to get the phone working.
So I will rely on your opinions on whether or not to make this purchase. If not this phone..what phone? I use t-mobile and dont want an unlocked phone so it would need to be one of their available products. I hear the MDA isnt bad. I really like the idea of a windows mobile OS as it would allow me to put darn near any app on the phone I want to. I want WIFI. I want to be able to use google talk and google maps on the phone and I really like the idea of surfing the web for free on my couch useing full functioning browsers not those mobile editions. Any recomendations if not the Hearld/Wing? Can I get the Wing to work properly and not freeze, hang up, lock up, or require constant reboots?

Point Blank you will have to change the rom on the wing in order to get some performance out of it, I switched from the MDA and the first day I got the wing I wanted my MDA back, but after changing the rom I forgot all about my big fat MDA even though The MDA has a 1250mAh battery and the wing just has a 1130mAh Batt.
If you do not want to do a rom upgraded you can take a shot at the Shadow, which has twice has much built in Memory and Storage, but its just a smartphone not a full PPC ................
also the MDA has been Dis-continued so if you buy one it will be a re-furb.

on second thought, You might just have to change the paging pool size and that should free up some Memory. and its too easy to do, and you can also delete and uninstall some files and programs you have no need for

I saw a few articles about both the rom and the page file. In your opinion, is changing the rom a wise thing to do with little to no support? I know that rom updates are risky, but on computers for example, its such a slick and easy process that there is little to no risk. Would a rom update on the wing be a wise thing to do? Is the available rom from a reputable sourse or is this something "Cody the 12 year old" made? I really want to make this wing my next phone but I dont want a 400 dollar PDA/cell phone that does neither correctly.

prodaytrader said:
I saw a few articles about both the rom and the page file. In your opinion, is changing the rom a wise thing to do with little to no support? I know that rom updates are risky, but on computers for example, its such a slick and easy process that there is little to no risk. Would a rom update on the wing be a wise thing to do? Is the available rom from a reputable sourse or is this something "Cody the 12 year old" made? I really want to make this wing my next phone but I dont want a 400 dollar PDA/cell phone that does neither correctly.
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Hi,
I have not created my own rom, but have recooked a few version of the Touch-IT v2.3 wing by itje. Recooking a rom is a long process, creating a rom would take even longer.
I've flashed my wing over 80 times now during testing new roms and recooking.
I've bricked the phone a lot of times in the process but with the orignal ruu, its no big deal.
I'm pretty sure itje and other fine rom cookers in this forum are not 12 year olds.
If you want to buy the wing then buy it and tjem read the forum and learn how to flash new roms and change page pool size.
If you want a faster and more powerful phone then buy the Kaiser.
Thanks for reading.

funny you should mention the Kaiser. I just finished reading up on that one. Thats a serious phone. It's way more phone and money then I am prepared to pony up. Is this the next best option for me?
I didnt mean any offense on the 12 year old statement. I certainly wasnt refering to anyone in particular or members of this board. I was mearly trying to imply unproven rom techniques. It sounds like there is well tested processess probably on this board for flashing the rom. It will likely be a safe process for me.
Would there be another recomendation for T-mobile if not the Kaiser or the Wing?

T-mo currently has 3 windows based devices listed which are the Wing, The Dash and The shadow, both the Dash and the shadow are smartphones and not PPC .................. since you dont want to have to unlock another device to be able to use it, I would recomend that you get the wing and while its being shipped to you read this thread about changing the Paging Pool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955
When you get the phone try give the 4mb Paging pool a test (thats what I use)
and if you still do not like it or just want to see how much better it is try a Rom upgraded I recomend Touch-IT wing 2.3 cooked by itje and he is not the 12 yr old that beat you in online gaming ................ you can get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340403
The installation is VERY VERY easy, but make sure to read the instruction in the folder and if you skip a line you will brick your phone ......................... but if you do brick your phone its pretty simple to unbrick, just re-flash the official rom .................... I can't seem to find that link (or too tired to look) but if someone can post it please do, If i come home tomorrow and no one has posted a link I will upload it for you

great info. phone purchased and ill be sure to give those tips a go. thanks

prodaytrader said:
great info. phone purchased and ill be sure to give those tips a go. thanks
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Just a note. Make sure you read and then RE-READ the instructions provided with every rom. And its also a good thing to get the T-Mobile official RUU as once the phone is bricked, this is the only rom that will unbrick it. I don't want to scare you because it's actually a very easy process. I have flashed itje's rom to several of my co-workers (were all T-Mobile employees) with no unrecoverable issues.

Should I get an HTC Touch Diamond?

I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon

please read before you bother to post
this is asked all the time....
you need to take the time to read and make up your own mind
i am more than happy with my diamond
welcome to the forum

Same here happy as a dog with my Jewel.
I believe all my fellow Forum members are 100% happy of the powerful Jewel they own.
Trust us you wont be disappointed specially after a visit to the kitchen

Im happy with mine coming from a nokia n95, ok the diamond could do with a flash and a better battery.
Other than that its all good....

There are loads of posts about this dotted over the forum, granted they are a bit of a trek to find.
It all depends on what you want to use the phone for. For my needs its great. Plays music, cameras ok, the VGA screen is really really nice and I do actually like TouchFlo 3D.
Good luck with the searching, and hope you find the answers to help you decide.
And I have to say the Diamond is the best phone ive owned, and ive had a lot of mobiles and pdas in the past. Its mainly thanks to this forum for that. So many dedicated people. Thanks xda!

Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.

Jon12345 said:
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Well im sure it would better than the current SE phone. Heres some of the reasons why i love my diamond.
1. So many app / utils / tweaks available and very cheap to buy extra programs for it. (donations to developers are all good to!)
2. Activesyncing my phone to my pc, always been an easy task with Windows Mobile.
3. Being able to control my phone using my PC (MyMobiler - excellent little program)
4. The Small size of the phone, it really is very small! Easy to use one handed
5. Screen Quality - VGA, you wonder how you coped before!
6. Easy to transfer info to and from the phone - Activesync or Removable Drive (USB Flash drive)
7. GPS - Tomtom on your mobile, excellent! Works very well
8. 4GB Storage - Plenty of space for what i need.
There are tons more! Post would be the longest on here if i kept on talking! hehe!

Here's my 2 cents. Got my Diamond yesterday, loved it, it look so wonderful. Just bear in mind that I am coming from a Trinity with a fast ROM.
I started to play around with the phone for awhile and took me back to when Winduhs released that beta testing Vista. It looked nice and pretty but it was a pain to use after you've been using XP for a while.
Regardless of what i just said, i love the Diamond and I might keep it. It makes my Trinity looks like a monster but it lags too much as it is.

If support and constant updates/improvements is what you're looking for, you've found the right phone. This forum is above and beyond any community I've ever seen when it comes to tweaks, ROMs, and any sort of improvement you could possibly make to your device. Just make sure to read all directions and pay attention closely, a lot of these things can turn your beautiful Diamond into a $700 brick.

Mainly because it's a tool which simplifies my work/life...not a mere toy to be shown on saturday evening (any reference is casual )
But in any case those are all personal opinions, I think you should make your own considerations and evalutions of a product before to buy that or another.
Be a subject talking about an object, not viceversa

Got mine last Thursday on Vodafone... it was nice, but a little laggy, then I updated it with a cooked ROM (swiftBL I think it was) and its a little beast now! Best phone ever!
Trying to get TomTom 7 on it at the mo.
For my first WinMo (coming from a Motorola KRZR) its just superb! And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
Get one and never look back!
Please don't be a fanboy!

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And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
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Someone who reads the directions and finds it easy to do, without asking 500 times how to flash a ROM?
Edited to maintain my reputation of not being gay. Hah.

Jon12345 said:
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
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If you have no problem to spend some extra money in missed calls, in general is a good toy.
THERE IS A UNSOLVED BUG WITH THE PHONE ON SCEEN BUTTONS. Every time when you receive a call and put it out of the pouch you answer or loose the call automatically. This is a bull****.

Just use the Diamond tweak tool thingy and I can see vast improvements already, you guys don't mess around huh? I want my diamond to perform, i have a bad habit of using my phone while driving, which is a bit hard to do on a touchscreen. I think my Diamond is almost there.
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.

RingTone01 said:
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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Just be cautious in whatever you do, and make sure you don't brick it... Whatever you do, as long as it's done correctly, can be reversed later on. Original SPL, original ROM, 100% warranty okay. But hey, if you're happy with the performance now, leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Thanks for the heads up, I figured that if everyone is trying to get a diamond ROM why should I do anything, except for tweaking it of course.
I was surprised to see that the ROM I have on my Trinity isn't the same as the real thing. It works, and works well and that is all that matters.

This phone is ****

It's really annoying me now. I've got my artemis back, repaired, and frankly I'm going to have to start using it again. When the diamond is charging and I take or make a call, the light stays on, so on a few occassions my ear has put the call on hold. So I turned the power button off today after this happened while on the same call, and then something else happened, I think the screen must have come on again but I ended up disconnecting the call accidentally.
The battery is absolutely bloody hopeless. It was fully charged last night and on it's last legs this morning. My only thought is, either it's always going to be like this, or maybe the various tweaks and 3rd party software installed affects battery life. However, the fact that the battery discharges so fast with no use is very worrying.
When I get alarm reminders, voicemail or text messages, I get the audible alerts but they don't immediately show up at the bottom of the screen (like on my artemis), only in the system bar at the top. I click the system bar, then the relevant icon (alarm bell icon, text bubble icon, etc) and nothing happens. I click system bar 2 or 3 times and eventually the message or reminder appears at the bottom of the screen. This is all complete ****. The ONLY redeeming feature of this phone is the built in gps, it gets a fast fix. Other than that, the artemis is more reliable.

I just rang HTC to put these complaints to them. The guy suggested I upgrade the ROM to the one on the T-Mobile site ( actually, I can't see it on their site, they discontinued this phone), that it might help the battery. He also said that the message alert problems were addressed in that rom. I still cannot believe that they only put a 900mAh battery in this phone and he couldn't answer me on that. I do not want one of those bigger batteries with the bigger back cover, I'm sure that would look pretty ugly wouldn't it?

Good helpful post! keep it up man! Really helping the community.

I love my diamond! Never again will I buy another "brick" PDA.

Sergio PC said:
Good helpful post! keep it up man! Really helping the community.
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More helpful than yours, I can tell you that for free. I'm pointing out problems with the phone that others might identity and empathise with, and that others may identify a solution for. If you're gonna post crap, try rubbishreplies.com.
I'm allowed to vent now and then, we all know the diamond is full of problems.

Ok, there's no official T-Mobile rom upgrade. Only thing I could try is the HTC upgrade, and still keep my warranty intact. Apparently the HTC ROM makes the phone work better, would that be true for any T-Mobile people here that have tried it? However, alerts notification is working better with Touch Flo disabled. I suspect battery life may be better without it too. I'm gonna test that and keep touch flo off.

well...i bought my diamond 3months ago,it is loaded with hd rom,battery is really problem for this device,but after upgrade to 1800ma(cover makes it a bit diferent,but not ugly!) i am fully satisfided

Well Im really annoyed at mine! It sooooo bad. Currently on factory defaults, soon flashing...
Orginal After compiling
ROM 1.37.110.3 WWE 1.93.110.3 WWE
Date 6/20/08 9/30/08
Radio 1.00.25.03 1.00.25.16
Protocol 52.26a.25.09U 52.29a.25.13U
CE OS 5.2.19965 (B:19965.1.2.3)
DIAM200 64M
SPL-1.93.0000
MicroP-Diam (LED) v11
PSOC-Vict STAGE_PVT v0x20
The message/email replies sometimes dont work.
Continus vibrate.
crashed screen on wake up.
No internet connections!

POOR YOU ROMAN

Why don't you try flashing a cooked rom? I find them way faster and reliable.
The forum is full of them thanks to the chefs.

Well I'm a bit wary about roms unless they're official. I've read various threads on here where people have successful rom flashes and then they find some other functions don't work properly.
If I do flash, I'll probably do the official HTC upgrade rom where they apparently addressed some problems recently. Anyway, with touch flo disabled all night and the backlight off, I've found the battery hasn't gone down at all, but that's just in standby mode. So, that's some improvement. Maybe a rom upgrade will allow me to keep touch flo on AND not drain the battery, who knows.

Oh btw, the phone is obviously not ****, just my way of expressing some annoyance at it's shortcomings.

If you change your mind about flashing with unofficial roms, many roms out there are phenomenal. The creators have put almost every tweak to get the most out of battery life while maintaining a stable and bug-free phone.
I recommend mightyrom 4 if you have a cdma phone or juicyrom.

you'd rather have a t-mobile rom?! with all the added crap they're pushing into the roms.
Just use AZTOR it's official rom with some crap stripped.
i mean you're on XDA but you don't wanna try to better your phone, that's your fault.

first thing i do when i get a new phone is flash an unoffical rom lol

I love my diamond..if you say that this phone is a **** means that you use this 5% of his potentiality
sorry for english but I know you have understand my idea

Why dont you sell the Diamond and get yourself an iPhone if you're scared of getting your manicures wet with cooked roms. Jesus H. Christ, you do know what this site is about, right? I mean, for god's ****ing sake, do you even know where you are? I mean...goddamn...goddammit.

lude219 said:
Why dont you sell the Diamond and get yourself an iPhone if you're scared of getting your manicures wet with cooked roms. Jesus H. Christ, you do know what this site is about, right? I mean, for god's ****ing sake, do you even know where you are? I mean...goddamn...goddammit.
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What a completely irresponsible post, but then you are only 15. Did you even see that I said I'm happy to try OFFICIAL roms? You don't care about voiding your warranty. I do. We all have different needs. Dumbass.

Roman5 said:
What a completely irresponsible post, but then you are only 15. Did you even see that I said I'm happy to try OFFICIAL roms? You don't care about voiding your warranty. I do. We all have different needs. Dumbass.
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If a rom breaks your phone, force flash it back to the official and get back to your phone dealer... That's what I did, and i didn't get "pwned" by the technicians.
And stop labeling people, dumbass.

cybik said:
If a rom breaks your phone, force flash it back to the official and get back to your phone dealer... That's what I did, and i didn't get "pwned" by the technicians.
And stop labeling people, dumbass.
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'pwned' lol, so many 'cool' internet kids here.

MMS on Manilla 2.5 For AT&T

Has anyone been able to get this to work? I did a search couldnt come up with anything. I tried the fixes posted no dice....Anyone???

Hi, i released a test rom here.
You´re welcome to try it out.
Cheers.

ark666 said:
Hi, i released a test rom here.
You´re welcome to try it out.
Cheers.
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That thread says Tmobile for for WARHAWK owners??? Also why is there a part 1 & 2 ??

bimori said:
That thread says Tmobile for for WARHAWK owners??? Also why is there a part 1 & 2 ??
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Becuse some sites like 4Shared do not allow files larger than 100 Megs

Talked to an att rep. and was told that the main problem is their network. He said its the same problem they have with the Iphone 3GS that it wasnt configured in their system yet and everyone who bought one with the new mms feature couldnt use it and they were getting calls nonstop. He also said that as soon as they release the fortress that the problems will be resolved. The only other thing I can think to do is find out how to get the system to recognize the touch pro 2 as a fuse mabey by replacing some rom files or OS files but dont have the know how to do so. I have tried cooking in the past on the fuse and tilt but every time I try to get something done Something else gets in the way like the wife or the baby or customers or fixing someones computer...... A never ending cycle of life on a daily basis. A good general breakdown of ROM cooking would be greatly appreciated. Like step by step without anything left out and an explination on what everthing does and how it works and changes a rom tweaks and all. Still waiting for someone to post a all encompassing tutorial........ Will pay for this advice, Hint Hint If I had the time Id do it but Business has to come before fun o r me and my family would be living in a shack.

Justin241982 said:
Talked to an att rep. and was told that the main problem is their network. He said its the same problem they have with the Iphone 3GS that it wasnt configured in their system yet and everyone who bought one with the new mms feature couldnt use it and they were getting calls nonstop. He also said that as soon as they release the fortress that the problems will be resolved. The only other thing I can think to do is find out how to get the system to recognize the touch pro 2 as a fuse mabey by replacing some rom files or OS files but dont have the know how to do so. I have tried cooking in the past on the fuse and tilt but every time I try to get something done Something else gets in the way like the wife or the baby or customers or fixing someones computer...... A never ending cycle of life on a daily basis. A good general breakdown of ROM cooking would be greatly appreciated. Like step by step without anything left out and an explination on what everthing does and how it works and changes a rom tweaks and all. Still waiting for someone to post a all encompassing tutorial........ Will pay for this advice, Hint Hint If I had the time Id do it but Business has to come before fun o r me and my family would be living in a shack.
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I was able to send MMS fine before I flashed Manilla 2.5. So lemme get this right, its no manilla 2.5 its at&t?

Thats what Im thinking, And now that you mention it, it probably is something to do with the connection between 2.5/2.6 and the os on the device. The reps I usually talk to are regular not tech support because its a little harder to get the tech guys to stay on the phone chatting after they troubleshoot your problem unless you get a talkative one, Like I said Im no chef and it will probably get worked out in future releases of 2.5 and 2.6, I stick with 2.6 even with all the bugs mainly so Im aware of exactly how it works when a 100% working version comes out and the process of the changes are cool and gives me a reason to keep flashing my phone

Quick question about 'OEM' product.

First of all Hello everyone, I'm Luke and I'm pretty new to the windows mobile scene.
I've wanted a windows mobile phone for a few years now however price tags were not so appealing to me, but now I've purchased my first windows phone and it should be arriving tomorrow or within the next few days. It also seems that I've bought one at a good time as I'm happy to see a lot of development going on for 6.1/6.5 which is awesome - I like playing around with gadgets more than actually using them.
But here is the catch, whilst I've posted this in the HTC TD2 section here, the phone I've bought isn't actually a TD2. At least not an official one. It's one of the Chinese models found on eBay. I don't want a moral debate going on here - it was a bargain and it's my first step into using a Windows phone which I'm looking forward to for a decent price. It looks like a TD2 and the seller has claimed it is 'OEM Produce' however I don't believe him really.
What I wanted to ask was how will I go about flashing, updating, installing ROM's and the such on this phone? Will it be more than enough to follow instructions for a standard TD2? I hope someone here who understands hardware device and such will be able to clear that up for me.
The phone is using the same processor as the original TD2, and has the same resolution etc. Not sure if it has the same amount of ROM/RAM however it's being shipped with WM 6.1 so it has enough I presume. Are there any other hardware differences that will effect the ROM's I can use? Can I even use the same ROM's you guys are using? I don't care about the lower quality camera and less important things like that.
Thanks for any advice (sorry it was a bit long winded)
Please scroll down to see my most recent post! Thanks!

Thats is a very tricky question you are asking here.
First of all, nothing is certain or guaranteed of what you might receive there. After all, the product you receive will be a counterfeit phone, a fake trying to mock a real TD2. And as with any fake products you get the same quality issues. How do you know for sure that it has the same processor?? Just because they write it there? The same can apply to the RAM, ROM, Display etc.! It is in my opinion HIGHLY unlikely that the phone you will receive, will have anything in common (technology-wise) with the real TD2. The TD2 combines a lot of recent technology like that hd screen, cam and ram. What you will find underneath of yours might be a mash-up of older HTC phones like the Diamond or even older..who knows!? You can continue this uncertainty with the Windows that phone is running...it will be some homecooked release that is made to work with the components the phone features. As they will be different to TD2 as we have clarified earlier, the ROMs available here will most certainly not work ideally with yours....and i would be highly surprised to see a forum that will be dedicated to a fake TD2 lolz. Anyways, I think you get my point...I dont really see why you would ship yourself a chinese mock-up to start with a Windows Mobile phone...I dont, really. There are so many nice cheap hq HTC phones out there that still support 6.5 to-date. I have been using a HTC Excalibur (S620/621/Dash) for like 4 years and kept buying the same phone since then because i LOVE it. The quality is superb and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5 like a charm. You can pickup a brandnew unlocked one for $100 at the bay. Just a week ago i decided to upgrade and bought a new TD2...not here yet but same as you i am very excited Im sorry that i drifted off into a moral debate by the way
If you really want to embark on trying to update your phone you will have to analyze the rom closely to see what phone's ROM it is actually running. This will help you to find the according forum in here.
Good luck

I concur with vivid22, The internals of your phone will certainly be different to those of the original HTC build and as such you may have many unforseen troubles if you do flash the rom.
But if you decide to proceed with a rom flash i would be very interested to hear of your results.
You may also be interested in using some benchmark software and comparing how your phone performs compared to ours, maybe you can discover if the CPU is indeed the correct performance. Its all quite interesting.
Oh and welcome to the forums

Thanks for your responses guys! Very informative.
While I'm not going to respond to the most obvious statements like it being a counterfeit and it sucking etc in much detail because of course you are right! but I knew this when I bought it. The price is the real difference here and I don't mind if I can't flash it but I too am interested if it will actually work .
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive and yes you both are right it has a very high chance that it is using different internals and I expect this, however the seller seems to state its using very similar hardware.
I will be more than happy to mess around with it, I guess I will dump the ROM first if I can then try installing some 6.5 etc - no problem trying I guess. I must say I've seen some clones from merimobiles.com (or something) with TouchFlo and I think even WinMo 6.5 but then again obtaining those ROM's will be a quest in itself. Not sure if mine is being shipped with TouchFlo, it has it in the screen shots on the listening but that really counts for nothing .
I have seen a few threads on these devices and their flash capability but not any with any definitive results so hopefully I can get the ball rolling. When I actually receive my product I will be able to tell if it is actually using the same processor, etc.

I believe you will find that Hard SPL will not flash to unlock your device.
Many here have tried with the same knock-offs.

Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?

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Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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No, SPL unlocks the OS, not the SIM.
Bootloader mode is how you determine your current SPL.

Okay. So I should be able to (hopefully) get into bootloader and find the SPL it currently has.
Well I guess thats it until I actually recieve the phone, cheers guys I'll post how I get on for the people who are interested.

It will be very interesting to hear about it. hope you get what you ordered?
God luck

Well, I'm back, for anyone who is interested!
Phone finally came, snow over here in the UK slowed it down haha!
So, the phone is very good for what I paid, and very nice.
I'd like to go about flashing it though, as it's currently running 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell. SPB is very nice, but I really like the look of Touch Flo.
Now while cosmetically the phone looks pretty close to the TD2, it has a few things like no front camera (don't really care) and the zoom bar also seems to do absolutely nothing. The phone runs as smooth as it should. It has no g-sensor as far as I can tell, shame but doesn't really matter.
All of this sounds like it has no chance, I think it even has less RAM than it was meant to but I'm not sure... But here is why I am still curious about trying:
Windows Mobile is reporting that it is using the 528Mhz MSM7200A processor.
That is what I believe the real TD2 uses, correct me if I am wrong.
If this means it is using the same chipset or what-have you as the TD2, I don't know. This is why I need help.
Really, what I am asking, is what kind of things can I look at in the phone to tell what I could possibly flash it with?
Do you think the HardSPL utility you all use will work with it? Is there even any way to tell, or should I just try anyway? And could that break the phone beyond repair? Is there a way to find out the real specs of this phone, because it may have been modified so that it read that processor name?
What do you guys think. I'm willing to try all sorts, I just don't want to brick it with no way of getting it back that's why I am just asking for opinions before I do it anyway.
Thanks

You will brick your phone for sure if you try a rom for Diamond2, search this forum for chinese ROM (I saw it somewhere on another thread in Topaz section), but watch out that you will have a clean windows without customizations includind TF3D.