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Changing Orange ROM.

Quite new to all this and have spent time with search, so please don't shout at me!
I still own a Tytn which I've been very happy with speed wise. Orange have sent me a Tytn ii now which i think is a great machine, however the lag and speed issues are really getting to me now. I understand that Orange are not the best when it comes to customising these phones and as a result is one of the main reasons it runs so slow. I spoke to Orange tech today and they said i wouldn't invalidate my warranty if i changed the ROM. Will it get this phone moving to a usable speed? I love the functions of this phone (GPS, keyboards better, BRIGHT screen! etc..) but the speed is taking the p*#s now.If anybody can recommend a good ROM (?) that would be great. Any help gratefully received.

hi and welcome to the forums. you can start your upgrading by reading through this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
i can tell you that basically any cooked rom will give you a speed improvementover a shipped rom. i'm not gonna give any suggestions, there's just too many different personal preferences when it comes to choosing a rom, just read through this and the upgrading forums....you will see many opinions, probably someone whould even post their opinion here too. good luck

jakefudge said:
I spoke to Orange tech today and they said i wouldn't invalidate my warranty if i changed the ROM.
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I very much doubt that! I bet they wouldn't put that in writing.
Afaik orange don't release rom updates and how could they support your device with some other rom on it?
Either way, I couldn't care less about it voiding the warranty, the stock orange rom is pants. I've never looked back since flashing a cooked rom.
As already mentioned, there are too many roms to say which is the best, it's a personal thing.
I personally like Duttys v4 (eek! looks as sig and realizes its waaay out of date, been running v4 for a while now), its quick, reliable and just generally feels nice.

"I very much doubt that! I bet they wouldn't put that in writing."
I asked the chap today and he said "because you had the phone direct from Orange we would repair or replace even if customised" I did say " are you SURE about that and he said yes. Having said that, every time i speak to them about anything they contradict each other! Ive been with them a long time and because I'm a heavy user they generally treat me right. I hope he was right, i did ask him for his name and i logged the time of call so hopefully if it does screw up I've got some comeback. Thanks for the quick replies.

jakefudge said:
"I very much doubt that! I bet they wouldn't put that in writing."
I asked the chap today and he said "because you had the phone direct from Orange we would repair or replace even if customised" I did say " are you SURE about that and he said yes. Having said that, every time i speak to them about anything they contradict each other! Ive been with them a long time and because I'm a heavy user they generally treat me right. I hope he was right, i did ask him for his name and i logged the time of call so hopefully if it does screw up I've got some comeback. Thanks for the quick replies.
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There is a big jump from "customisation" which to them probably means not using the crappy orange home to flashing a new rom.
my 2p worth.

I specifically said i want to change the ROM. He said OK. Sod it, its next to useless anyway with their crap software. If i brick it I'll "accidentally" drop it into the bath and let my home insurance get me a new one.

jakefudge said:
I specifically said i want to change the ROM. He said OK. Sod it, its next to useless anyway with their crap software. If i brick it I'll "accidentally" drop it into the bath and let my home insurance get me a new one.
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Just be sure to read and sock in all of the guides, then theres very little chance of bricking it

Well, I took the plunge, but as a nessesity rather than option.
I'm with TMobile and they wanted £180 for the upgrade plus put up my tariff £10 per month (was on 25% for life plus £10 loyalty discount) so effectively upgrade would cost £320.
Got a new Orange 12 mnth contract and phone for £70. Other half now has 12 month orange contract sim rather than PAYG, and I followed the sim unlock and flashed Duttys 6.1 ROM with 3 days of getting the phone. Orange phone looks much better than Vario 3 too.
Just follow the instructions to the letter and you won't look back!

Cheers for everyone's help! Much appreciated. Now, does anyone know why slide to unlock pretty much messes my phone up???!!! Orange ROM causing the problem?? I get the main screen but the slider doesn't slide and then i just get a blank screen!

If you are up for flashing a new rom... then don't muck about with applications yet.
Read up. Flash the correct SPL, then choose a rom, flash it (and simunlock if its a 6.1 rom as you need a 6.1 compatible radio) and then use it for a couple of days and see what you like.
If you dont like the new rom - flash another... It can become quite addictive!

new user, initial setup?

I just upgraded from a 8125 (wizard) to a tilt from at&t. I had my wizard replaced through warranty with a tilt in the last month of my 8125 warranty, don't ask me how... The lady on the phone was quite helpful and definitely went above and beyond to give me that phone for free. I have been flipping through the kaisers forums for a couple of days now and Ive learned a few things like the driver problem and some other limitations/features available software and the likes.
What I'm curious is what would you people suggest I do as a new user? Skip the at&t extended rom? What software I should load onto it? What software I should remove? I am aware of the registry tweaker, but theres many options. What registry entries are good for an average user to use? What cabs or patches should I apply to my phone to get it in optimal order? Any other things that I currently am not thinking of or not aware of?
I do not think I wish to upgrade the rom or any of that sort. I am conscious of battery life and have learned that most roms make battery life suffer/the risk of flashing is not worth the upgrade for me since I will be out of warranty soon. Should I be convinced to flash? I have learned about a wm6.1 though. Is this something already on my phone or is this something at&t will be offering as an update already/in the future?
I have looked at the wiki and scanned through a lot of pages but I haven't seen anything that would be helpful for new users. This would be a good thread to have stickied.

How on Earth is there nothing helpful for a new user on this site? This thread is a redundant thread.. lol
but here.
Anything on here that floats your boat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438&highlight=suggest+software
Here is what was said when another person pretty much asked the same thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380887&highlight=suggest+software
same thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377257&highlight=suggest+software
A nice conversation about gps and the kaiser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382240
You might have some instant messaging questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1150324
This forum might be useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=419
man I didn't even get a half a percent of the usefulness linked.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
and where the hell did you get the idea that a cooked rom makes battery life worse???

I should have been more clear in what I meant. Instead of there not being information, there is too much information and assumes a certain level of knowledge already. To expect somebody to read through all the pages in the multiple forum sections just to get up and running is unfair. At count, I am at page 25 on the general discussion but I still know barely anything relative to how much info is out there.
To address the software question, most software is simply just listed, nary a description or information about it or suggestions on how useful it is. I would like to try software but I don't want to have to install 50 things just to find 5 that I like, not to mention the residual mess of a crummy uninstall. Same goes with cabs, patches and tweaks. For somebody who is quite familiar with the device, issues and history its quite easy to navigate around the knowledge but for somebody who doesn't know exactly what they are looking for it can be quite cumbersome.

Click here to see some awesome pictures of the AT&T Tilt in motion.

Thanks for that but I'm not a moron, I didn't click it. Plus no need to be a jerk.
To address the battery life issue, in several threads reads ive read, people have stated horrible battery life with the kaiser such as about half a day or less and have stated they have are currently using a cooked rom. I know my deductive reasoning is slightly flawed but I hardly believe that the factory rom would yeild that bad of battery life (I know its quite bad but not that much). Secondly, I've been using the wizard forum for quite some time now and most of the cooked roms make battery life worse for that device. One would only expect the issue to be somewhat similar.

matthewvl said:
Thanks for that but I'm not a moron, I didn't click it. Plus no need to be a jerk.
To address the battery life issue, in several threads reads ive read, people have stated horrible battery life with the kaiser such as about half a day or less and have stated they have are currently using a cooked rom. I know my deductive reasoning is slightly flawed but I hardly believe that the factory rom would yeild that bad of battery life (I know its quite bad but not that much). Secondly, I've been using the wizard forum for quite some time now and most of the cooked roms make battery life worse for that device. One would only expect the issue to be somewhat similar.
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then u should just try out the roms and make that conclusion urself in regards to battery life

Welcome Matthew -
I am going to try and give you an analogy - most people purchase a car and it works - they like the car - they get some extras like a CD player - or Satellite radio etc. When their car has a problem they take it to the dealer. He fixes it and give it back to them STOCK.
Some other people have to hot rod their cars - soup them up so to speak.
You have come to the ultimate "soup up" shop, and dropped in and said that it should not be this difficult to own a car and that you do not know enough to do this.
There is great news for you - your phone will work just fine the way that you got it. It is designed by AT&T to work EXACTLY the way that you got it. No more no less.
Your battery life should be just fine. (although some have had problems - but then you take it back to AT&T and they FIX it).
At this point - if you wish to "soup" your phone - dig in and start reading. You will be surprised at how easy it is to soup your phone, and how happy you can be with it. BUT - like going to a foreign country and trying to talk to them in English you are going to tick people off here. You need to TRY and work with them - try a little soup speak and you will find it goes a long way.
Bill
matthewvl said:
Thanks for that but I'm not a moron, I didn't click it. Plus no need to be a jerk.
To address the battery life issue, in several threads reads ive read, people have stated horrible battery life with the kaiser such as about half a day or less and have stated they have are currently using a cooked rom. I know my deductive reasoning is slightly flawed but I hardly believe that the factory rom would yeild that bad of battery life (I know its quite bad but not that much). Secondly, I've been using the wizard forum for quite some time now and most of the cooked roms make battery life worse for that device. One would only expect the issue to be somewhat similar.
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I don't want to have to install 50 things just to find 5 that I like
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How can we tell you what you like?
For somebody who is quite familiar with the device, issues and history its quite easy to navigate around the knowledge but for somebody who doesn't know exactly what they are looking for it can be quite cumbersome.
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How do you think most of us learned what and how? Not everyones device acts the same.

Yeah pretty much what you need to do is search for things you might want and then go from there. If you want a video program that search for video, etc etc.
And actually the rom I'm using now gets way better battery life then the 3 I had before it.

Diamond is probably the worst phone I ever used

Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.

Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.

How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.

Very useful thread... one of many.
With some tweaks the HTC performs well. Even the battery.

kareem9nba said:
Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.
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True, but my Prophet and Trinity were not anywhere close to the level of "suck" that this phone comes to.

bakman said:
How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.
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3 days? which rom are you running?
Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....

yegor said:
Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.
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so what ? return for refund, i`ll keep mine nothing change

Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....
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i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!

KukurikU said:
i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!
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Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.

It's just not performing poor.
Just installed HTC's own new 1.37 rom ... and see, it's a almost full functional device!
Fast, no lags (it's not a 3300 nokia!!) lots of usability, navigating, mailing, exchange, foto's, sound, browsing, the whole bunch in my pocket.
A lot of these topics, but I am glad i bought one

I must say battery life is very poor in music playback with set of stereo bluetooth hedphones, i get about 3 hrs max just using music and no phone calling etc. it seems to me that when the battery gets to the last 2 bars it doesnt last long at all. im on the latest rom, phone calling/sat nav and surfing via 3g doesnt seem to be that much of a problem to me battery wise. Ill be picking up the extended battery, i wouldnt swap this phone for any other though!

yegor said:
Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.
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Just had a nice time reporting you (c)
Besides, he was right.. The phone is not as bad as you said, the things you said just prove that you don't know how to use it to it's potential, that's all...
Yes, I don't own a Diamond (waiting for the Pro), but from what I can see on this forum, for each 10 whining people, there are 50 or more who love the phone after tweaking it for themselves..
The topics like this are pretty much useless, as the only thing they contain is whining, but don't actually give anything useful
My regards..
P.S. You are russian, aren't you?

This is the best phone I ever used
With the reg tweaks here from the wiki the battery lasts about 2 days - I can live with that (remembering my "old" PDAs where battery lasts not a half day *ggg*). We wanted it full featured and slim - so we habe to live with this "battery issue".
But I ordered the extended battry from HTC yesterday - just in case

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This is the best phone I ever used
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/me cheers

IMO A2DP is going to drain the battery of any phone?
Whats battery life like on core player with corded headphones?

The rom that came with it (for most people) is slowwww.
A rush to get the phone out i think, but i think alot of people would have made that compramise - have the phone 3 weeks ago with a slow rom and be able to upgrade it around now.
Check the roms section you can find the official rom updates for each region there. You don't need to do any hard SPL modifications to use those, and therefore shouldnt affect your waranty. I would suggest that first.
Flaming is just pointless, and alot of people had the same thoughts at 1 point, i know i did!

I'm looking to get a Diamond and TBH find threads like this useful. I know its a Marmite kinda thing (love it or hate it) but it gives a indication of what the phone is like.
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
If he said the phone was one of the best ever made you wouldn't slate him and degrade him....so why do it otherwise???
Afterall its a Forum and peoples opinions are their own! Forums wouldn't exist otherwise!

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from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Thats a good price. If you dont mind me asking, how are you getting it for £230 Non Contract?

I have to say this is probably the most ocvered topic for every single HTC out there, I have had almost all production releases and everytime someone always states its the worst phone ever! truely this can't be the case.
There are phones that have been much worse and this is a PDA with lots of extras that why you pay more oh and the fact you purchased it so early. give it a chance with a newer rom.

cammy3000 said:
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Where in the hell are you getting it for £230? Link please..

Quick question about 'OEM' product.

First of all Hello everyone, I'm Luke and I'm pretty new to the windows mobile scene.
I've wanted a windows mobile phone for a few years now however price tags were not so appealing to me, but now I've purchased my first windows phone and it should be arriving tomorrow or within the next few days. It also seems that I've bought one at a good time as I'm happy to see a lot of development going on for 6.1/6.5 which is awesome - I like playing around with gadgets more than actually using them.
But here is the catch, whilst I've posted this in the HTC TD2 section here, the phone I've bought isn't actually a TD2. At least not an official one. It's one of the Chinese models found on eBay. I don't want a moral debate going on here - it was a bargain and it's my first step into using a Windows phone which I'm looking forward to for a decent price. It looks like a TD2 and the seller has claimed it is 'OEM Produce' however I don't believe him really.
What I wanted to ask was how will I go about flashing, updating, installing ROM's and the such on this phone? Will it be more than enough to follow instructions for a standard TD2? I hope someone here who understands hardware device and such will be able to clear that up for me.
The phone is using the same processor as the original TD2, and has the same resolution etc. Not sure if it has the same amount of ROM/RAM however it's being shipped with WM 6.1 so it has enough I presume. Are there any other hardware differences that will effect the ROM's I can use? Can I even use the same ROM's you guys are using? I don't care about the lower quality camera and less important things like that.
Thanks for any advice (sorry it was a bit long winded)
Please scroll down to see my most recent post! Thanks!

Thats is a very tricky question you are asking here.
First of all, nothing is certain or guaranteed of what you might receive there. After all, the product you receive will be a counterfeit phone, a fake trying to mock a real TD2. And as with any fake products you get the same quality issues. How do you know for sure that it has the same processor?? Just because they write it there? The same can apply to the RAM, ROM, Display etc.! It is in my opinion HIGHLY unlikely that the phone you will receive, will have anything in common (technology-wise) with the real TD2. The TD2 combines a lot of recent technology like that hd screen, cam and ram. What you will find underneath of yours might be a mash-up of older HTC phones like the Diamond or even older..who knows!? You can continue this uncertainty with the Windows that phone is running...it will be some homecooked release that is made to work with the components the phone features. As they will be different to TD2 as we have clarified earlier, the ROMs available here will most certainly not work ideally with yours....and i would be highly surprised to see a forum that will be dedicated to a fake TD2 lolz. Anyways, I think you get my point...I dont really see why you would ship yourself a chinese mock-up to start with a Windows Mobile phone...I dont, really. There are so many nice cheap hq HTC phones out there that still support 6.5 to-date. I have been using a HTC Excalibur (S620/621/Dash) for like 4 years and kept buying the same phone since then because i LOVE it. The quality is superb and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5 like a charm. You can pickup a brandnew unlocked one for $100 at the bay. Just a week ago i decided to upgrade and bought a new TD2...not here yet but same as you i am very excited Im sorry that i drifted off into a moral debate by the way
If you really want to embark on trying to update your phone you will have to analyze the rom closely to see what phone's ROM it is actually running. This will help you to find the according forum in here.
Good luck

I concur with vivid22, The internals of your phone will certainly be different to those of the original HTC build and as such you may have many unforseen troubles if you do flash the rom.
But if you decide to proceed with a rom flash i would be very interested to hear of your results.
You may also be interested in using some benchmark software and comparing how your phone performs compared to ours, maybe you can discover if the CPU is indeed the correct performance. Its all quite interesting.
Oh and welcome to the forums

Thanks for your responses guys! Very informative.
While I'm not going to respond to the most obvious statements like it being a counterfeit and it sucking etc in much detail because of course you are right! but I knew this when I bought it. The price is the real difference here and I don't mind if I can't flash it but I too am interested if it will actually work .
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive and yes you both are right it has a very high chance that it is using different internals and I expect this, however the seller seems to state its using very similar hardware.
I will be more than happy to mess around with it, I guess I will dump the ROM first if I can then try installing some 6.5 etc - no problem trying I guess. I must say I've seen some clones from merimobiles.com (or something) with TouchFlo and I think even WinMo 6.5 but then again obtaining those ROM's will be a quest in itself. Not sure if mine is being shipped with TouchFlo, it has it in the screen shots on the listening but that really counts for nothing .
I have seen a few threads on these devices and their flash capability but not any with any definitive results so hopefully I can get the ball rolling. When I actually receive my product I will be able to tell if it is actually using the same processor, etc.

I believe you will find that Hard SPL will not flash to unlock your device.
Many here have tried with the same knock-offs.

Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?

Lukeff7 said:
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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No, SPL unlocks the OS, not the SIM.
Bootloader mode is how you determine your current SPL.

Okay. So I should be able to (hopefully) get into bootloader and find the SPL it currently has.
Well I guess thats it until I actually recieve the phone, cheers guys I'll post how I get on for the people who are interested.

It will be very interesting to hear about it. hope you get what you ordered?
God luck

Well, I'm back, for anyone who is interested!
Phone finally came, snow over here in the UK slowed it down haha!
So, the phone is very good for what I paid, and very nice.
I'd like to go about flashing it though, as it's currently running 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell. SPB is very nice, but I really like the look of Touch Flo.
Now while cosmetically the phone looks pretty close to the TD2, it has a few things like no front camera (don't really care) and the zoom bar also seems to do absolutely nothing. The phone runs as smooth as it should. It has no g-sensor as far as I can tell, shame but doesn't really matter.
All of this sounds like it has no chance, I think it even has less RAM than it was meant to but I'm not sure... But here is why I am still curious about trying:
Windows Mobile is reporting that it is using the 528Mhz MSM7200A processor.
That is what I believe the real TD2 uses, correct me if I am wrong.
If this means it is using the same chipset or what-have you as the TD2, I don't know. This is why I need help.
Really, what I am asking, is what kind of things can I look at in the phone to tell what I could possibly flash it with?
Do you think the HardSPL utility you all use will work with it? Is there even any way to tell, or should I just try anyway? And could that break the phone beyond repair? Is there a way to find out the real specs of this phone, because it may have been modified so that it read that processor name?
What do you guys think. I'm willing to try all sorts, I just don't want to brick it with no way of getting it back that's why I am just asking for opinions before I do it anyway.
Thanks

You will brick your phone for sure if you try a rom for Diamond2, search this forum for chinese ROM (I saw it somewhere on another thread in Topaz section), but watch out that you will have a clean windows without customizations includind TF3D.

[Q] Getting an IS tomorrow or on monday...

But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )

Splux said:
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.

You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies

sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing

swatsor said:
I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?