Im not sure how to change the settings, but I always see my 3g staying connected for long periods right now its at 45 mins. Im not sure how much it affects the battery life. My battery still says 98 % so I guess it's not too bad, but I still dont need it on all the time. Also I have changed the connection to shut off in kaiser tweak after 5 mins.
Thanks for the help
Well I installed new Comm Manager with 3G button. I turn it of there. It still connects to GPRS when I go to Internet but stays connected only for 1 minute because I have set it like that in my KaiserTweak.
pole-os said:
Well I installed new Comm Manager with 3G button. I turn it of there. It still connects to GPRS when I go to Internet but stays connected only for 1 minute because I have set it like that in my KaiserTweak.
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which version KaiserTweak are you using?
Its probably staying connected as you have an app running that wants it connected.
If its dormant but connected I don't think there's any real downside.
Im not really sure what would be keep the connection alive. Is there a way to tell what app is using the connection ?
all I know of is just using the process of elimination. Use the task manager to turn off a program. If the 3G doesn't turn off a little after that then move on to the next one.
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I recently applied the Kaiser tweak to disable idle connections after 1 min - this works great when the phone is on, however, when it goes into sleep mode, this fails to work.
E.G. If I click send/receive on my emails then quickly put it into sleep, turn on the device in 10min and it would have stayed connected, once it is turned on after a minute it will disconnect.
This morning I turned on the device to see that it had connected to receive emails last night and had stayed connected for hours - of course once I turned it on the tweak kicked in and it disconnected after a minute.
So my question is, how do you get the tweak to work whilst in Sleep? Any work arounds?
Thanks in advance!
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If you are referring to GPRS/3G there is no problem the connection remaining active. It isn't really active unless data is being transferred, it is just the session remains ready for data. The mobile operators prefer it working this way as it is less strain on the network creating a data connection and keeping it rather than setting them up/closing them down/setting them backup again.
It doesn't use any more power by remaining up.
The software isn't shutting down the connection when you have the phone in standby as quite simply the software will not be running in standby, everything stops in standby, so the program can't run to turn off the connection, until you turn the phone on again.
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Phil
Hi Philip,
From my experience I have found that even if the data connection is open with no data flow (HSDPA / 3G ) it drains the battery much more than if it were closed.
Or is this just for HSDPA?
snaveint said:
Hi Philip,
From my experience I have found that even if the data connection is open with no data flow (HSDPA / 3G ) it drains the battery much more than if it were closed.
Or is this just for HSDPA?
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Hi
There is a blog that explains what is happening from Microsoft.
I would guess that while the connection is active something on the device is seeing that and stopping the device from entering standby.
The actual connection itself remaining open does not drain any more power as it isn't doing anything different than just having your phone on waiting for a call.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/07/14/666203.aspx
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Phil
Hi Philip,
Thanks for your response.
I have to say though from the last few days of tinkering, an open connection does drain more than a closed one even with no data flowing. This is with HSDPA, I have not tested this with just a 3G open data connection though...
Are we talking about the same things? I'm a bit new to this phone though sorry.
Thanks,
A silly question by a new user: how is it possible to stop an internet or data connection (no matter if hsdpa, edge, gprs) once started?
Thanks
use 'long key press' in settings, can be set to disconnect a data connection (sdpa, edge, gprs)
Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity
jack1985 said:
Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity
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faulty url!
take this one:
GB-SOFT GPRS-UMTS_Tweak_WM6.1_Diamond
there you can choose the idle-time for disconnect
Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.
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Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.
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Cool, also in stead of holding the end call button, wich locks the phone in my case,
Dubbelclicking the end call button alse ends my edge connection.
In order for your end key to stop the connection, you have to go to Settings>System>Long Press End Key>Select Terminate data connection
Then when you press and hold your end key, it will end the connection
if you prefer to stop internetconnection by shortcut, try VJKeyPress.exe 126
this one toggles internet connection
i've searched and i've searched and i cant find the resolve!
after retrieving hotmail, the connection stays active, meaning bars are lit up. for HOURS after unless i long-press-end key or something like that. even when i am surfing the web, after a page is fully loaded, the bars stay lit. on my old diamond, the bars used to go gray or "dormant" etc. therefore no tweaks i have found help (i.e. most operate with this rule "if the connection is dormant/inactive for xx minutes, turn off data" etc. well my connection remains ACTIVE unless i manually intervene)
what is causing this??? i only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite installed. stock ROM.
hello? anyone? NO one is having the same issue or can help with this??? at this point i'd even be happy with a rude comment about how i should learn how to search coupled with a few links to threads which contain the answers! :\
I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection
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I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection
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number16, my savior! i'll try to explain as best i can: when the data connection is started/being used, those left-right arrows appear above the signal strength, correct? what i call "active" is when those arrows are lit (presumably when data is actually being transferred). what i call "dormant" is when the arrows are still there but are gray/not lit (i.e. connection is still open, but not currently transferring data). well, up until a 2 wks ago, all seemed fine - the arrows would briefly stay lit when downloading a page, connecting to hotmail, etc, but then would go gray once the transfer was complete. now however, the arrows stay lit. sometimes for hours at a time even tho nothing is running, no data (that i know of) is being transferred, etc.
so what i was saying is that, yes, i know i can long-press-end key to shut it down, but that only works if i notice it otherwise it's just draining my battery. (most times it is in my pocket, and since it checks hotmail periodically, the data connection may open and stay on without me noticing). and yes, i know about advanced config setting (and actually, i DO have it set to turn off after a minute) BUT that only applies if "connection is not active for more than a minute". i.e. since my whole problem is that my data connection technically stays active, that advanced config setting doesnt work.
so my question is, what is keeping the connection active? why is it doing this? i am running stock ROM and only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite loaded. and a few other minor tweaks via advanced config/regedit. i even tried spb wireless monitor to see what was active after a data transfer was complete (as far as i could tell) but it didnt really tell me anything.
does all that make sense?
thanks for any help you can provide...
Hi. I've bought my first Android device, a HTC G1 Dream. I've gained root access, installed the last Cyanogen release (with Android 1.6), RA-1.2.3.
What I've noticed is a strange behavior, quite different from the one I had with my BlackBerry Bold.
When I'm home I enable wifi, to save some datas from my (limited) contract. It works and I've set not to disable wifi when in standby. It works. But as soon as I go out (and the wifi coverage finishes), it doesn't re-enable UMTS data until I awake it from the standby manually.
It's quite annoying...is there a way to change this kind of behavior?
Thank you very much!
Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
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Is it still connected to EDGE or GPRS? If this is the case it is a PowerSaving feature, if it's totally lost connection with the net then you have a problem I guess...
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When I connect via Wifi, it disconnects from edge, gprs or umts. And doesn't reconnect when the wifi coverage ends (unless I "re-awake" the phone,pushing the menu button)
from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
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from what i read your saying thats while its sleeping its not connecting to your data services when your leaving wifi coverage, so my question is: do you not see the data icon when you wake up the phone but after waking it it comes on or are u assuming that its not on?
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Yes, I cannot see the icon as soon as I wake up it. Then, in some seconds, it reconnects. More, I can see it's not just a "icon" issue because my K9-mail stops collecting my mailboxes when that situation happen.
I saw a thread about change the duration for WiFi scanning when not connected to WiFi. I know it scans every 30 seconds to see what networks are available for use, i think this will have a huge impact on battery for user that want to keep WiFi enabled all day, which is what i would like to do if there is a fix rather then turning it on when i get home off when on the train and on again when at work and off on the train and on at home
I know draky ROM has this set to like 2 minutes, so is there a way we can change it on Doc 9.6.6 speedmod K13C??
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just went in the WiFi setting even after connecting to my home network with full bars and everything works fast, it still seems to scan for networks every 5 seconds. Is there a way to disable the scans? It should only scan when not connected to a network and continue after a network is connected.
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I saw a thread about change the duration for WiFi scanning when not connected to WiFi. I know it scans every 30 seconds to see what networks are available for use, i think this will have a huge impact on battery for user that want to keep WiFi enabled all day, which is what i would like to do if there is a fix rather then turning it on when i get home off when on the train and on again when at work and off on the train and on at home
I know draky ROM has this set to like 2 minutes, so is there a way we can change it on Doc 9.6.6 speedmod K13C??
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just went in the WiFi setting even after connecting to my home network with full bars and everything works fast, it still seems to scan for networks every 5 seconds. Is there a way to disable the scans? It should only scan when not connected to a network and continue after a network is connected.
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Not sure if its clear- Your phone will not scan for WIFI networks if its connected to a WIFI network already. It is not possible to scan while connected unless you explicitly go to WIFI settings and check there- then the phone will scan for you because you are asking it to scan.
On the other hand, you can modify the WIFI ON time using this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507&highlight=wifi+timeout
Hope this helps.
No im in the wifi settings and am for sure connected to my home network and i can see the scanning and the circle come up every 5 seconds. So it is scanning every 5 seconds even after connecting, i think it maybe a bug coz your right there is no reason for scanning to occur when already connected.
I'm not talking about the wifi sleep policy. In darky's ROm he has scanning set to 2 minutes so it will scan for networks every 2 minutes when its not connected to a network, for me i would like to change that to 15 - 30 minutes. I don't need it to connect right away when i get home or at work and find it stupid that it scans every 5 seconds for a network. If i really want wifi that badly i will do a manual scan and connect.
it will always refresh more frequently in the settings to let you know what is available to connect to... as soon as you close settings it will refresh less often.
i highly recommend juice defender... it will automatically turn off your wifi when disconnected for a while and connect it again later on. im pritty sure it checks when u turn the screen on. there are other settings and widgets that come with to control your 3g when its not needed to save battery
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it will always refresh more frequently in the settings to let you know what is available to connect to... as soon as you close settings it will refresh less often.
i highly recommend juice defender... it will automatically turn off your wifi when disconnected for a while and connect it again later on. im pritty sure it checks when u turn the screen on. there are other settings and widgets that come with to control your 3g when its not needed to save battery
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Pls help, my TF101 is one day old, it was connected to my work wifi network that my X10 is connected to.
I mistakenly pressed on "forget network" and now it just scans but cant find the network. pls help me
khakhi said:
Pls help, my TF101 is one day old, it was connected to my work wifi network that my X10 is connected to.
I mistakenly pressed on "forget network" and now it just scans but cant find the network. pls help me
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Maybe your work network doesn't broadcast ssid? You have to configure the connection manually if that is the case.
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Herman76 said:
Maybe your work network doesn't broadcast ssid? You have to configure the connection manually if that is the case.
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I have tried but still nothing...
HTC UK O2 NoDo and unlocked
Odd behaviour. I usually toggle off wifi,bluetooth, gps and data to save battery if I'm away for extended periods and speed up charging since you can't turn off the phone if connected.
1. Whilst USB connected. If I leave Data Connection On and turn off 3G. USB disconnects and orange LED turns off. No charge or sync with zune within 1 minute.
2. If I leave Data Connection On and turn off 3G before plugging in. Same thing happens. Again within 1 min.
3. If I leave Data Connection On and leave 3G On. Stays connected and charges/syncs with zune without any issue.
4. If I turn off Data Connection completely. Stays connected and charges/syncs with zune without any issue. But if I toggle Data Connection On whilst plugged in and 3G still off..again in 1 min it disconnects.
It is as if I toggle off 3G prior or after plugging in USB to a PC. Connection drops after 1 minute but not straight away.
Not a big deal. But curious if someone else could try the above scenarios, could be a WP7 OS thing, could be device specific or maybe I put too much homebrew apps and registry changes screwing it up.
Let me know you experience same thing! Many thanks
TMOUS HD7 here, no connection drop with 3g on or 3g off, even when i toggle while its connected to zune..I'm guessing it must be something you did to your registry..
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TMOUS HD7 here, no connection drop with 3g on or 3g off, even when i toggle while its connected to zune..I'm guessing it must be something you did to your registry..
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Thanks, all I needed to know. Cheers mate!