Windows Update on ATT Tilt - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Ok; So I notice that many versions of windows on the ATT Tilt have a "windows update" button. I know that this is a newer concept used with wm6.1 but is it even worth it to have it in the rom or is it just an idea that has been implimented but will not be utalized for a while? I know some cellular companies were going to try FOTA (Firmware Over The Air) updates but the main concern has always been about the customet toasting the device with a FOTA update that goes wrong.... Any ideas anyone?

as far as i know no device ever had a working win update on them
ms never implemented the server feature in their end

You should be posting your tilt questions on the kaiser forum!

I thought about putting this in the kaiser forum but to my knowledge other phones and wm6 versions have the windows update. That is why I posted here. I was hoping someone with a different device and rom may have some input. I could have fixed the title of the thread a littl better I suppose...

I know that I have it on my HTC TyTN II (non-original ROM), and that it doesn't work.

it works actually just never updates nor installs anything,must be synced to a dummy server

dyetheskin said:
it works actually just never updates nor installs anything,must be synced to a dummy server
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Microsoft put it in so they have the ability to update. They haven't used it yet but they might in the future.

when i first got my tilt i ran it out of curiosity and if i remember correctly, it found the windows mobile green theme file as an update to wm6 so there has been at least 1 update pushed out through this server that is IF my memory serves me correctly.

galaxys said:
You should be posting your tilt questions on the kaiser forum!
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Ummm this is the Kaiser forum isn't it

i have only used the feature once and i see no use in it what do ever. i have only seen it being used to update the windows live program and that was the only time i saw it used. other then that i have never seen it being used for anything else.

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Crossbow Windows Update *Warning*

I did a windows update and now my wizard wont pair any bt devices and alot of crazy stuff is hapenning. I cant change my Today screen sometimes i get calls and sometimes i dont. I dont get any messages now.
that sounds like a classic M$ windows update to me.. i would say everything is working fine
If its true what you say about the update why did you even try it or it did it automaticaly. but shogunmark is right sound like microsoft. LOL
Update: Sorry i thought that it was a wm6 update but still thats m$ doing
Windows Update Concern
I connected to windowsupdate while I had WM6 installed. Was I the only one who worried that M$ would come and get me because I was connecting to the site with a not yet released rom?
im just trying things out
did u actually install an update from windows update or just did a check
people tried calling me today and the phone didn't even ring.
I tested this once by calling myself, I had to turn the phone from standby for it to ring. Very wierd.. I am confused because I really like crossbow but the radio on it sucks right now.
Not sure which version I should rollback to
frayes said:
people tried calling me today and the phone didn't even ring.
I tested this once by calling myself, I had to turn the phone from standby for it to ring. Very wierd.. I am confused because I really like crossbow but the radio on it sucks right now.
Not sure which version I should rollback to
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Threre is no radio on the WWE crossbow that you installed. It still has the old radio that you had before the WM6 ROM install.
As far as I know, there isn't any updates available to WM6 at this time.
I have tried to check for updates a couple of times, but no available updates.
ABOUT THE WINDOWS MARKETPLACE: I mailed and asked for an demo-account.
I then got an answer (froma nice lady) that said that access to this demo account was strictly for the MS developmenet team. And she asked me to accept her appologies.
I then replied that i fully understood this, bearing in mind that thie WM6 ROM isn't released yet, and that im in possesion of a pirated WM6 ROM.
That didnt conscern her at all. She asked me what I thought of the ROM, and if I had any pro's and con's.
So were not able to use marketplace as of now. :-(
HansMarius said:
As far as I know, there isn't any updates available to WM6 at this time.
I have tried to check for updates a couple of times, but no available updates.
ABOUT THE WINDOWS MARKETPLACE: I mailed and asked for an demo-account.
I then got an answer (froma nice lady) that said that access to this demo account was strictly for the MS developmenet team. And she asked me to accept her appologies.
I then replied that i fully understood this, bearing in mind that thie WM6 ROM isn't released yet, and that im in possesion of a pirated WM6 ROM.
That didnt conscern her at all. She asked me what I thought of the ROM, and if I had any pro's and con's.
So were not able to use marketplace as of now. :-(
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Do you know why she did not care, cus windows does not have a WM6 beta testing so the only way that it can work correct it to 'leak' it and let poeple like faria sort it out for them!!! Show where it can be made better! With out them windows would not be able to do anything!
Lol... ive thought the same thing for years now. Its funny how we all want windows products, but the first thing we do is tear them apart and tweak them. I think microsoft might let it leak out on purpose. This makes most of the blame not thier fault (the leak is like an alpha) and it lets ppl find bugs and fix problems in thier software that they can easily fix later. Faria and molski and the others are nothing more then unpaid microsoft employees (we should do something about the unpaid part )
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Lol... ive thought the same thing for years now. Its funny how we all want windows products, but the first thing we do is tear them apart and tweak them. I think microsoft might let it leak out on purpose. This makes most of the blame not thier fault (the leak is like an alpha) and it lets ppl find bugs and fix problems in thier software that they can easily fix later. Faria and molski and the others are nothing more then unpaid microsoft employees (we should do something about the unpaid part )
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I think its more like this.. We are able to see the potential in a decent product and work in our spare times to make it more functional despite some of the M$ bugs found along the way.. But we all work together as a community. If you want to donate i would consider donating to the board first, this is where we all come together to make things happen, there is alot of work that goes in to them besides the person who puts it out there
Update
It is microsofts policy not to collect any personal information when your device connects to windows update. You won't be caught but who knows.... They might launch an update to mess your phone up before release... As for the updates there arn't any it's still in development. I would tend to agree about the radio rom
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Threre is no radio on the WWE crossbow that you installed. It still has the old radio that you had before the WM6 ROM install.
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Then its a problem with crossbow, the phone doesn't turn on by itself when the caller hears it dial.

T-Mobile MDA WM6 flashing and Vista

I've spent about an hour digging through the forums here searching for ROMs that are true to my T-Mobile MDA. I like and am used to a lot of the built-in apps from T-Mobile, so i'd like to get a ROM as close to the T-Mobile Wing as possible. I understand the difference in hardware from MDA to Wing, but i'm sure some carrier that used the Wizard offers an official upgrade to WM6, right? And of course, with some cooking a T-Mobile USA ROM could come out of that with some time spent tinkering. (something i'm really not good at)
Also, i'm kind of stuck with using Windows Vista since i upgraded back in February and kissed XP goodbye. The only way i use XP now is in Virtual PC which i know won't connect to anything over USB. I really want to avoid dual-booting if at all possible. I've tried the USB driver update solution to no avail. So what are my options? I've never updated to a 3rd party ROM before, and since T-Mobile refuses to update the MDA i'm rather stuck. Suggestions, please!
Oh and the desire for WM6 comes from some severe issues i've had with WM5 and dropping my data connection and phone calls related to the AKU update for direct push released many months ago. Plus it'll make me feel like i'm using a newer device instead of the same-old MDA from last year.
Doood
Why doesn't anyone ever dual boot xp and vista is my question haha.. xp takes like 2.5gb
EXACTLY.
I've done that.
I have 2, 60 GB in my LAPTOP.
So If i can do it on my laptop you can do it on your big bulky desktop.

So many versions!

Can someone please help me? I am a total noob right now, I just got a Treo 750 which was supposed to be unlocked (i got that taken care of) but I want to update to WM6. my version is
treo750-1.13-cng
but I dont use cingular, I am currently on T-mobile. I dont want the lame xpress mail and crap from cingular or att, so which update should I use? I was wondering about the generic one, will that have everything i need to use it on a different carrier but just not have the cigular stuff? (instead of getting the att update). I see ROW, RWE, ect and I dont know what any of these versions mean or the differences. Can people help, thanks much appreciated.
come on, people are reading this so give me some thoughts. i was thinking of using the official ATT release, but would the ROW 2.23 release be better for me? or am i missing out on stuff by not using the ATT one. I just want unbranded crap basically.
I just got a 750 about two weeks ago. When I received it, it had the same firmware you've got now (1.13-CNG) and I am also on T-Mobile. I updated to the unbranded 2.23, see this link for instructions on 'tricking' the updater to work with your CNG phone:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=156093&highlight=wm6+unbranded
You can also update from a MiniSD card; it is a bit less hassle but it won't show the new version number on your phone. (Plus I didn't have a MiniSD card )
Unbranded is definitely the way to go. No AT&T logos anywhere and no AT&T internet proxy. Also, the unbranded firmware includes the Windows Live app while AT&T has chosen to remove it. So far I really have no complaints with WM6 and this firmware version. I've been using the phone full time for a couple weeks and the only glitch I've hit was today I was in a building with no signal and the phone wouldn't re-acquire a signal when I left. I quick soft reset fixed it though.
There are a couple newer releases out, someone just posted the unbranded 2.27 release, but it has some bugs that were fixed in 2.23 and supposedly the radio version was older.
Also, I've seen some mention of a 2.30 release, but I haven't found it unbranded yet.
If you have any problems getting your T-Mobile internet or MMS settings done, shoot me a PM -- I spent a bit of time finding the proper settings already!
nope, didnt work, I dunno why. I still get the same error. Im not sure if its something wrong Im doing or just some registration error or whatever. I dont get why it fails everytime and tells me "I should be an administrator to run the update" pissing me off I WANT WM6 ALREADY.
You didn't mention any error in your original post(s)... I answered the questions you asked.
Are you running WinXP or Vista?
sorry yea i made 2 threads and did in the other. it wouldnt let me install, kept saying you should be the admin to update, even though i am the only user! but then i installed on vista and it works great =)

Problems with Skype.

Hi everyone I'm new with WM, before I had only Symbian. I have ATT Tilt which I've unlocked and updated to Kaiser firmware, with help of this forum. Before Skype worked perfect for me, I had WM6 pro, but now when I've upgraded to WM6.1 it wont work, during loading message appears: Failed to load file. I've tried to reinstall it for few times... no help. Maybe somebody knows any solution for that problem. Thanks.
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Hi everyone I'm new with WM, before I had only Symbian. I have ATT Tilt which I've unlocked and updated to Kaiser firmware, with help of this forum. Before Skype worked perfect for me, I had WM6 pro, but now when I've upgraded to WM6.1 it wont work, during loading message appears: Failed to load file. I've tried to reinstall it for few times... no help. Maybe somebody knows any solution for that problem. Thanks.
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Seriously, does ANYONE read anything around here before they jump into a new ROM? Would you jump into a pool BEFORE looking to see if any water was in it? How many threads have people already posted and said "NOT ALL APPLICATIONS ARE WORKING ON 6.1" Start reading, read some more, THEN post a relevant question.
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Maybe somebody knows any solution for that problem. Thanks.
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Downgrade back to WM6? Though I think I read somewhere that once you upgrade, you can't go back. There was a thread where people were finding problems with their phones after they went back to 6 that going back to 6.1 again didn't solve.
I remember when Vista first came out and the reports of programs failing left, right and centre. That's one of the main reasons I'm not bothering to upgrade until the compatability issues are resolved...
Is there any alternative program, that is also works with Skype network? I know Fring, but it's not so good. Maybe there are others?

Windows Update...... Anyone?

Im curious to know if anyone has ever activated the Windows Update on their WM5/6/6.1 phone and something actually downloaded?
Tried a couple times and got nothing
Not sure what it is for? It didn't work with WM5 either.
Same here, tried a few times but no updates came through, strange
Never got anything. 6+ trys over a year or so
there was a similar thread some weeks ago.
i think WM has a windows update function for distributin critical updates if someone writes a wm virus / worm / whatever that uses a bug in Windows Mobile.
Yea ive ben trying since feb this year and have never been able to get any sort of update, try like few times each month.....
so dont really know whats the point of it.
yha i found it funny to i i'm trying to update like for 2 years now but nothing
a while ago my phone went to htc
when i got it back there was a newer version on it with updates so i think that update is useless
Windows update
Updated from
Windows Media 6.0 to 6.1 and worked perfect.
Did for my HTC Touch.
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Updated from
Windows Media 6.0 to 6.1 and worked perfect.
Did for my HTC Touch.
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this is not about loading a new rom on your phone. we're talking about the integrated windows update function in windows mobile
it has never provided an update, but all of sudden today, it's not getting a connection to the update server.... instead of saying no updates available...
I am not sure if this is a feature that will ever be enabled. When I worked for Sprint and Verizon there was discussion of FOTA (Firmware Over The Air) updates. The main issue that could cause serious problems if the persons phone should reset or lose power during that update. It would be nice if the mobile device center could keep track of your applications and available updates like the Apple I-Tunes. Has anyone every thought of that? I think it would be fun to hack WMDC.

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