So, I've unlocked my T-Mobile MDA G3 phone both CID and otherwise using loki. I've tried the T-Mobile update off their own site, and here is what happens. I suspect I need a different data cable, but I might be wrong there, so I figured I'd bring the issue to you all because you are the gurus of all gurus...type peoples.
So, here's what goes on. I download the software. I sync my MDA and my notebook. I ensure both machines are on and set to stay on. I check the connection and all is good. Heck, I've even backed up my MDA system using one of those backup utilities for Smartphones available online for trial download(which worked great, btw). So I run the software and click next and check everything it says the check and then it begins. This is where my problem begins and the goodness ends...
The MDA shuts off and just sits there. I don't touch it for fear of what might happen by being impatient, but every time, no matter which ROM I've tried to use for update purposes, the notebook pops up saying that it encountered a "communications error". It doesn't brick the phone, thank God. It simply just requires removal of the battery for 5-10 seconds after disconnecting the USB, then turning it on. It boots fine and all is good, except, no new ROM, same old 1.0.8.something version and bah!
I want to update my ROM and am stuck. I've tried at least 5 DIFFERENT ROMs and loaders and still the same thing.
I'm running the original T-Mobile ROM 1.0.8.something, IPL 1.X, and SPL 1.X. The phone says it's unlocked using the CheckLock program you can download from the forums, or elsewhere, I forget which. I've run the cidunlock with the loki tool multiple times and it finishes no issues.
If anyone has ANY ideas or thoughts, or even if they've run into this I'd like to know.
I'm pretty sure my phone right now won't do the whole A2DP via bluetooth bit, and that's what I'm REALLY wanting. I just got those Motorola HT820's and am anxious to play around with them more.
Anywho. You all rock and I've only been here like a day, but your information, walkthroughs, and just general geekiness(oh yeah, I work for the Geek Squad and we ALL use either the Verizon or Sprint version of the MDA, heh heh) have been most appreciated!
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I have just bought HTC tytn II but dont know how to sync it with my mac. can anyone provide any answers
You'll have to use The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile to sync all your calendars, tasks and contacts from your mac to your phone.
http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_windowsmobile.php
I used it with my 8525, and it worked without a problem. I've never tried it with my Tilt, but it should be the same.
Dave
yeah Missing Sync works great with Mac...you can sync more items than ActiveSync offers for Windows. Such as text messages...
Wow! I was expecting to browse this thread and see a ton of replies flaming Mac. Good to see the professionalism showing.
NotATreoFan said:
Wow! I was expecting to browse this thread and see a ton of replies flaming Mac. Good to see the professionalism showing.
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Well i am a MS fan, always been a user since the first time i used a computer, but am now employed by Apple (no, i refuse to use that iPhone, its truly not as good as people say it is), and to admit, there are many things Apple is better at than MS, but Mobile, Windows Mobile remains on top only because its so open.
rohit8282 said:
I have just bought HTC tytn II but dont know how to sync it with my mac. can anyone provide any answers
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you can try eltima syncmate. right now its still in beta. feature wise and simplicity I like it better than missing sync but that's just me.
When I had Tiger, the one thing missing sync had above syncmate was its ability to open my device as a disk in mac os x. But with leopard, this has been disabled (missing sync 4.02) You can read through the missing sync change log about this. If you still use tiger, try and get the last missing sync v3. If you have leopard, i'd advise using syncmate since it's free though there are still some bugs (i mainly use contacts sync and no issues there)
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Wow! I was expecting to browse this thread and see a ton of replies flaming Mac. Good to see the professionalism showing.
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There is no need to flame Macs. They are now capable of running their own OS as well as a working one (how's that for professionalism )
Ok, I'm just a sarcastic jerk. I actually have a Vista computer, an iMac G5, my Tilt and I have an iPhone again (which is going on Craigslist...again!). I don't know how to synchronize with the Mac so I just use the PC. I couldn't care any less which of the computers I use. They both work.
wow! i'm glad tytn II can be synced with Mac! coz my Vista just crashed on me a few hours ago without any good reason but thank God it miraculously got revived!
so i'm really skeptical of Windows and plan on jumping over to Mac if ever any nonsense from Windows/Vista comes up again..
rohit8282 said:
I have just bought HTC tytn II but dont know how to sync it with my mac. can anyone provide any answers
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I have owned a qtek 9000, an HTC MeTeor, an HTC TyTN ll, and All have been WinMobile 5, smartphones, or WinMobile 6 Professional devices, and I can honestly say, that The Missing sync (on My MacBOOk Pro, OS X 10.5.6), I have had SIGNIFIGANT SYNCING ISSUES, AND SIGNIFANT BLUETOOTH ISSUES, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE even been in the equation as I was cradled with a USB. I have tried it 6 ways from Sunday on at least 4 or 5 different devices and not fared much better. I am wondering if I brave enough to try to flas my ROM on my TyTN ll to the current version, but do it running Windows XP on my MAC through VMWarefusion (I think it would be easier than trying to do it with Parralells or Boot Camp) but honestly, I haven;t heard from anyone that has ever updated a ROM on Winmobile 5 or 6 device from a MAC. If you have, I would forever be in your debt to know how they did it and how it worked? Cheers, Shogunzero
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I have owned a qtek 9000, an HTC MeTeor, an HTC TyTN ll, and All have been WinMobile 5, smartphones, or WinMobile 6 Professional devices, and I can honestly say, that The Missing sync (on My MacBOOk Pro, OS X 10.5.6), I have had SIGNIFIGANT SYNCING ISSUES, AND SIGNIFANT BLUETOOTH ISSUES, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE even been in the equation as I was cradled with a USB. I have tried it 6 ways from Sunday on at least 4 or 5 different devices and not fared much better. I am wondering if I brave enough to try to flas my ROM on my TyTN ll to the current version, but do it running Windows XP on my MAC through VMWarefusion (I think it would be easier than trying to do it with Parralells or Boot Camp) but honestly, I haven;t heard from anyone that has ever updated a ROM on Winmobile 5 or 6 device from a MAC. If you have, I would forever be in your debt to know how they did it and how it worked? Cheers, Shogunzero
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It is not possible to flash from the Mac side, Leopard will not run the .exe's.
I have an Intel Imac running Windows XP through Bootcamp. I sync through Active Sync 4,5 to my Windows desktop with never a problem. I have also flashed many roms, radios, and upgrades also, and have never had a problem at all.
Since I run my business off of my Mac. I also need to sync my phone to my Mac side. What problems have you encountered ? Missing sync has been way better than AS for me. Never a problem.
Parallels is crap. Crappy software, crappy company. Bootcamp is way better and free. I can't believe I actually paid for Parallels.
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It is not possible to flash from the Mac side, Leopard will not run the .exe's.
I have an Intel Imac running Windows XP through Bootcamp. I sync through Active Sync 4,5 to my Windows desktop with never a problem. I have also flashed many roms, radios, and upgrades also, and have never had a problem at all.
Since I run my business off of my Mac. I also need to sync my phone to my Mac side. What problems have you encountered ? Missing sync has been way better than AS for me. Never a problem.
Parallels is crap. Crappy software, crappy company. Bootcamp is way better and free. I can't believe I actually paid for Parallels.
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Im sure its possible, as you CAN flash using tty on other devices under Linux. Dont forget, macs come standard with ssh/tty ( as they are Unix ).
Ive not done it on a kaiser yet ( Hardspl allows you to flash via MicroSD which is not only faster but a MUCH MUCH more stable way to do it ) But i remember messing with the roms on my hermes ( goofing with mobile linux ).
Im on a C2D Macbook Pro. I sync using MissingSync. I do ALL flashing by copying the nbh to the MicroSD. This is your safest, fastest, most efficient way of flashing ( Much faster than runing an exe on a windows system ). If you need help on how, shoot me a PM =)
Just a sidenote.....
POF made the HERMflasher and im SURE he has to have something available for the kaiser by now You might try to shoot him a PM to see if he has a source you could compile and port to the kaiser. If it can be done under linux, then more than likely you can do it under BSD Unix
When I asked this question last spring, the general concensus was possible, probably, but the tools weren't there yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393869
I have never flashed from an SD card before. Just takes ten minutes on the PC in Win XP, never had a hitch, resistant to new ways I guess
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When I asked this question last spring, the general concensus was possible, probably, but the tools weren't there yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393869
I have never flashed from an SD card before. Just takes ten minutes on the PC in Win XP, never had a hitch, resistant to new ways I guess
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Rohit8282 has a mac............. not xp. Simply telling him some useful information. Also, flashing via SD takes at most 5 minutes. There is NO RISK at all involving a data connection disruption OR power failures.
Just more helpful info
The OP was from a year ago, shogunzero searched and picked up this thread. ( yea, a noob who actually searched, good job) He has the same set up as me, running an Intel Mac with a partioned disk , running OSX Leopard on one side and Windows XP on the other side.
Suffice it to say , you cannot run the Kaiser RUU and flash Spl from OSX. Once you have SPL flashed on your phone , you can download custom roms onto OSX and transfer he files to your SD card and flash from your card.
Since I personally spend equal amounts of time on OSX and XP, I just do all my flashing and phone play from XP. Microsoft plays nice with Microsoft (why upset Bill and Steve)
If you are just updating your stock TyNT II rom then you can do it safely from your SDcard, If you want to flash a custom rom you need to initially use XP to flash HardSpl.
It is just as safe.
And if like pyraxiate, your really sweating that extra 5 mins, I just have an extra cup of coffee
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The OP was from a year ago, shogunzero searched and picked up this thread. ( yea, a noob who actually searched, good job) He has the same set up as me, running an Intel Mac with a partioned disk , running OSX Leopard on one side and Windows XP on the other side.
Suffice it to say , you cannot run the Kaiser RUU and flash Spl from OSX. Once you have SPL flashed on your phone , you can download custom roms onto OSX and transfer he files to your SD card and flash from your card.
Since I personally spend equal amounts of time on OSX and XP, I just do all my flashing and phone play from XP. Microsoft plays nice with Microsoft (why upset Bill and Steve)
If you are just updating your stock TyNT II rom then you can do it safely from your SDcard, If you want to flash a custom rom you need to initially use XP to flash HardSpl.
It is just as safe.
And if like pyraxiate, your really sweating that extra 5 mins, I just have an extra cup of coffee
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LOL im with you on the coffee part, but the main reason I flash Via SD is because I flash about once or twice a week, and I keep a folder of roms as well as a folder of radios on the sdcard itself. If im out, I can swap things around at any time ( and because im an on-the-go technician this is a good thing). I can download the roms and install without ever using a computer. Very useful if one doesnt have windows at all
But, im having my cup of coffee now and flashing as we speak ( trying out a PDACorner Rom )
Being a noob at card flashing, you have a card that is just dedicated to roms ? You don't load roms on to your everyday card with music, ringtones and backups, and flash from that do you?
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Being a noob at card flashing, you have a card that is just dedicated to roms ? You don't load roms on to your everyday card with music, ringtones and backups, and flash from that do you?
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I do have multiple cards , but my last 10 flashes have been from my everyday card. I keep a folder inside called flash and inside flash are 3 subfolders ( Roms, Radios, Hard-SPL). I copy all of the nbh files to the appropriate directory path, then rename them to something id recognize like HDIII.nbh, L26M2D.nbh, PDAV14.nbh and for radios use the radio number. when I go to flash, simply copy/paste the rom/radio (HDIII.nbh) to the root of the SD card and rename it to KAISIMG.nbh ( do not cut/paste as you wil want the original later). just reset into botloader and viola there you go. flashing made easy hehe. (all but flashing SPL...thats done a tad differently from sd)
If you have any other questions feel free to ask
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I use 2x 8gb card and no issues yet (maybe 1K flashes now haha)
Syncmate
I've just read a review about Syncmate, a free software to sync win mobile devices and Mac Os.
Read on: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2577
Ciao, Francesco
Ok; So I notice that many versions of windows on the ATT Tilt have a "windows update" button. I know that this is a newer concept used with wm6.1 but is it even worth it to have it in the rom or is it just an idea that has been implimented but will not be utalized for a while? I know some cellular companies were going to try FOTA (Firmware Over The Air) updates but the main concern has always been about the customet toasting the device with a FOTA update that goes wrong.... Any ideas anyone?
as far as i know no device ever had a working win update on them
ms never implemented the server feature in their end
You should be posting your tilt questions on the kaiser forum!
I thought about putting this in the kaiser forum but to my knowledge other phones and wm6 versions have the windows update. That is why I posted here. I was hoping someone with a different device and rom may have some input. I could have fixed the title of the thread a littl better I suppose...
I know that I have it on my HTC TyTN II (non-original ROM), and that it doesn't work.
it works actually just never updates nor installs anything,must be synced to a dummy server
dyetheskin said:
it works actually just never updates nor installs anything,must be synced to a dummy server
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Microsoft put it in so they have the ability to update. They haven't used it yet but they might in the future.
when i first got my tilt i ran it out of curiosity and if i remember correctly, it found the windows mobile green theme file as an update to wm6 so there has been at least 1 update pushed out through this server that is IF my memory serves me correctly.
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You should be posting your tilt questions on the kaiser forum!
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Ummm this is the Kaiser forum isn't it
i have only used the feature once and i see no use in it what do ever. i have only seen it being used to update the windows live program and that was the only time i saw it used. other then that i have never seen it being used for anything else.
Hello there,
I'm a previous WM device owner, last device was HTC Wizard.
I currently have a Nokia N95 and i'm planning to get the Diamond when its released on T-Mo in a few weeks.
I connect the N95 to the laptop a lot to get internet on the move, can anyone confirm if this is a featrure supported by the Diamond / WM 6.1
I don't recall having this ability on my Wizard, i have to be honest though.. with it being purely GPRS i would never have tried.
I appreciate this is a bit of a noobie question but i've been out of the Windows Mobile scene for a while so things have changed a little.
Thanks in advance.
Garry
gazzrenn said:
Hello there,
I'm a previous WM device owner, last device was HTC Wizard.
I currently have a Nokia N95 and i'm planning to get the Diamond when its released on T-Mo in a few weeks.
I connect the N95 to the laptop a lot to get internet on the move, can anyone confirm if this is a featrure supported by the Diamond / WM 6.1
I don't recall having this ability on my Wizard, i have to be honest though.. with it being purely GPRS i would never have tried.
I appreciate this is a bit of a noobie question but i've been out of the Windows Mobile scene for a while so things have changed a little.
Thanks in advance.
Garry
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There is a program that comes as standard in WM6.1 called "Internet Sharing" that allows this... T-Mobile might not though (in the UK, Web'n'Walk Plus/Max do allow tethering, the basic one doesn't though).
Hey l3v5y
Thanks for that, I'm on the W'n'W plus package, so thats all good
Thanks for the quick response!
Not sure how this has come about but I used to be able to connect to internet really easily through my work laptop when the TyTn II was connected by either Bluetooth or USB. Now I don't seem to be able to connect to either????
When connecting through USB I seem to be able to connect to the PC via 'Internet Sharing' which also lights up the 'Data Connection' icon but when I try to use IE it just says 'Cannot connect using current settings'. Thing is, I haven't changed anything and it used to work fine. Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it. Beginning to think a seperate phone/PDA may be best way ahead.
Unsure of whether the problem is related to the official 6.1 upgrade or the install of NoData (as I got fed up with accidentally hitting the weather and Quick GPS refresh and having the phone eat money).
Regardless of what I try I can't seem to get it to connect to internet albeit phone shows as connected via both Bluetooth or USB.
Short of solving this (and I'm not sure where to start) I'm temted to do a reflash and leave out things like No Data etc etc and just see if it works again. Bit of a nuisance really.
Tried searching all manner of related topics but no joy so far
It is a problem with the WM 6.1 official HTC update
I had exactly the same problem in reverse with my TyTN II when it was running the WM 6.1 (the same official HTC ROM that you have). By 'in reverse' I mean I couldn't initially do internet related things on the TyTN II using my home internet (either via USB or Bluetooth connection). It was fine before but after the upgrade thats when the problem occurred. I didn't have any additional software installed apart from Tomtom Navigator 6.032 (HTC Version) so I don't think your NoData install will be to blame (at least not solely). I did manage to get pocket IE working under these circumstances though after I had a fiddle around in the connections tab under settings - or was it Activesyncs settings.... I could never get the automatic Quick GPS updates to occur though, even under those settings and I still had to manually update (although it did use the home internet connection when I did this).
I remember that I changed a drop down selection from something along the lines of this device is connected to 'Auto' to make it 'The Internet'. Sorry for being so vague but I've now reverted to the original WM 6.0 ROM (more precisely I had HTC do it for free under the warranty) and none of the options I'm looking at now ring any bells. Perhaps someone else recalls more clearly what settings change is required.
I think the most important part of your post is:
Empgamer said:
Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it.
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Thats how I felt about the HTC upgrade that wasn't. I was quick to go down the upgrade path but since it's been back with WM 6.0 other than a few uncommanded resets in the first day or two which haven't since reoccured, the device is now rock solid again. Of course it'd be nice to think the latest HTC upgrade didn't introduce more problems than were already present but in my experience their current update is more trouble than it's worth (and you haven't even mentioned GPS). If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
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If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself. It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
The spl is an issue - reverting it
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself.
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I was tempted to do that myself (and even asked HTC for the downgrade file to do so) but there are a couple of issues for those of us that like to keep things 'HTC Official'. A big one for me is that since HTC was responsible for creating the buggy WM 6.1 ROM, they should also accept responsibility for fixing it (fat chance of that, I agree with what -888- wrote in the WM 6.0 vs. WM 6.1 thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432482&page=4 along the lines of the best developers being assigned to the latest and greatest products). If they're not going to fix it, then they should at least revert the device to a reliable state. I was in a fortunate position to be in the area of the HTC Repair Centre but if it means sending the phone away, I understand why some might prefer the DIY option.
It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
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There's alot to digest about ROM (and Radio and spl) flashing in the wiki and that takes much more than 10 mins. Although a special spl such as hardSPL isn't used with the HTC official setups, the spl does need to be reverted from the 3.28 version with the official WM 6.1 WWE, back to a 1.xx version with WM 6.0 for proper functioning. That isn't just a simple case of running the RUU program like the upgrade to WM 6.1 was - it has to be manually reverted (presumably using something like jumpSPL and the procedure in the wiki for restoring a device for warranty purposes) so it gets more complicated. I was expecting spl version something along the lines of 1.56 on my WM 6.0 setup (to match the ROM numbers) but they installed 1.93, presumably because it was more reliable or offered other performance benifits. Perhaps the ideal spl is in the package already but again this cant just be run like the WM 6.1 upgrade was so there's some jiggery pokery involved
I tend to agree. Not sure why I really bothered with 6.1. One of the first things I did was use Kaiser Tweaks to turn threaded SMS off.
I didn't realise that reverting to WM 6.0 would require more than reflashing so that makes it a little more problematic. I'm not near a HTC Centre. The whole device certainly seems more buggy under 6.1 than it did before and this internet through laptop problem is a nuisance. Being fairly unimpressed with Co-Pilot I don't use GPS that much and, withe the aside that i think I've used the keyboard twice since I had it (another 'essential' I'd put on my list for phone/PDA attributes), I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
Post is an option.
Empgamer said:
I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
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Of course it's up to you but don't forget that even though you may not be near a HTC Repair Centre, you could still call them up on the phone to make the booking and post the device to them once you've arranged to have it reverted. They should do it for free but confirm this so you don't get any unpleasant surprises.