It looks like RedFly has drivers to communicate video and keyboard through the USB port!!
I bet these drivers could be used for any computer, such as the Asus EEE - with a bit of work at first, of course.
I've always wanted a large screen for my WinMo, and it looks like it is on the way!
is this as we have got?
there must be someone out there that can turn a eee pc into a redfly clone
eagerly waiting for such a WinMo driver, (linux or windows on the EEE side), that allows using the EEE screen at native resolution ,for buying an EEE.
I want it!!!
redfly: really good idea, but not at that price point!
redlfy price is a little high
I'm hoping to have one in the next week or 2, i will post a review.
FYI - the video appears on redfly in native resolution (i.e. the resolution of the tilt" and works both via USB and Bluetooth
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FYI - the video appears on redfly in native resolution (i.e. the resolution of the tilt" and works both via USB and Bluetooth
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I may be wrong, But my understanding is that video appears on redfly at 800*480, not at native tilt qvga 320*240.
So, redfly soft to be installed in PDA must have something similar to RealVGA, a proggie that changes Windows Mobile resolution,
I´d be happy having on the EEE a 640*480 piece of screen real state for Mindows Mobile remote screen ( with real crisp VGA, not just upscaled QVGA!) and the remainin screen real state for underlying linux/windows desktop
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I may be wrong, But my understanding is that video appears on redfly at 800*480, not at native tilt qvga 320*240.
So, redfly soft to be installed in PDA must have something similar to RealVGA, a proggie that changes Windows Mobile resolution,
I´d be happy having on the EEE a 640*480 piece of screen real state for Mindows Mobile remote screen ( with real crisp VGA, not just upscaled QVGA!) and the remainin screen real state for underlying linux/windows desktop
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i wish it were true - there is upscaling for regular programs email even web browsing but for video - it plays native 320.240 this has been confirmed in the reviews so far of the unit
but like i said hopefully i will be able to show you - i expect to hear by thursday if one is shipping to me soon
The Redfly has a software that has to be installed on the phone to make it bigger and better quality, however it doesn't work for video playback. Plus I found out it doesn't work with Skyfire Browser.
pho said:
i wish it were true - there is upscaling for regular programs email even web browsing but for video - it plays native 320.240 this has been confirmed in the reviews so far of the unit
but like i said hopefully i will be able to show you - i expect to hear by thursday if one is shipping to me soon
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Thanks for sharing the info. Then redfly is a no-no because I can get a similar size,fully capable, PC (EEE) for much less money, and use either SOTI or Mymobiler with a 2x Zoom factor.
Next step would be using Kaiser as a SideShow device for EEE:
funny:using the PC for controlling the Kaiser, and using the Kaiser for controlling the PC!
LOL!!!!
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The Redfly has a software that has to be installed on the phone to make it bigger and better quality, however it doesn't work for video playback. Plus I found out it doesn't work with Skyfire Browser.
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it better work with opera or thats a deal killer
Posted using my Redfly and Opera Mini...
So the Redfly experience so far is good. Not great, but good. This is a new product so inevitably it should get better provided Celio (mfg'r) listens to user communities like XDA.
Pros -
Instant On
Instant Connect with USB and BlueTooth
Usable Screen Size/Experience
Usable Web Browsing
Keyboard Controls (Alt-Tab, Windows Key, Function Keys)
Size for Experience
Light Weight
Long Battery Life
Cons -
Does not replace a full fledged PC (if you're expecting that)
Amplifies limitations of WinMo outside of its native form factor (I'm running Sleuth 6.1 on a TyTN II)
No Video/Audio playback on the device
If you're looking for a full fledged PC experience out of this, its not going to happen. IMHO given natural progression of technology and improvements in WinMo devices (SW and HW) this could take the place of a laptop eventually.
For those looking at this vs an EEE or something similar, I'd like t see them put the PC up to their ear to take a phone call, also your still carrying two devices which are mutually exclusive vs a single device with an auxiliary piece of hardare that enhances the experience of the core device (only when needed).
Related
WHATS your dream phone and what features wud you want it?
T0 All
basically a kaiser with good drivers and vga. or in other words a smaller athena with slightly less crippled drivers... when i say smaller, i mean abt 3.5 to 4 inch screen rather than 5 inch
So thats 624 mhz processor, 128 ram, 256 rom
16gb flash onboard [this is the new athena]
tactile feedback keyboard
gps
vga
Rory
My dream phone (Tilt) is on the way.... Can't wait! Can I have two dream phones? Xperia X1 is on that list.....
Sony Ericsson Xperia x1.
made by HTC
my dream phone.
look here:-
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x1-2246.php
Shift
The Shift, but with Vista Ultimante, and 160gb hard, - but HTC would have to make it so you can use it like a regular phone.............................
Other wise, the Tilt/TnTY II has done an awesome job, the only complain is i need some ability to do my graphics/audio editing "on the fly". The photos i do edit with two programs from the Tilt, but yet to find a good audio editer of that..... (use Adusity on the desktop at home......)
my dream phone is the iphone with 3g even without the 3g i love it way more than mytilt it does everything it said it would and more plus i can still install apps but i dont really need to too much why because most of the stuff i was installing on the tilt couldve been done on the iphone ie s2p s2u opea mini htc photo album big on screen keyboard its already their on the iphone plus the battery life way better than the tilts even when i would just leave it on edge
ilovemytilt1 said:
my dream phone is the iphone with 3g even without the 3g i love it way more than mytilt it does everything it said it would and more plus i can still install apps but i dont really need to too much why because most of the stuff i was installing on the tilt couldve been done on the iphone ie s2p s2u opea mini htc photo album big on screen keyboard its already their on the iphone plus the battery life way better than the tilts even when i would just leave it on edge
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Do you work for Apple? No way someone is that happy about the iPhone....
SonyEricsson Xperia X1 by the specs and if it can hold up to what it promises. If it doesnt: a phone similar to the X1 which actually holds what it promises...
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The Shift, but with ...
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we are talking about phones...
anyway, mine:
removable/attachable qwerty kb
128 ram, 256rom
8gb
VGA
600+mhz
great drivers
hsdpa
microsdhc
eten X650 size (not including keyboard)
gps
video out like athena (you can stick a usb there with adaptors)
3mpx camara (good quality)
flaheable w/o voiding warranty
WiFi Draft N (3.0)
Lol. i don't see this phone ever existing.
medellinrob said:
we are talking about phones...
anyway, mine:
removable/attachable qwerty kb
128 ram, 256rom
8gb
VGA
600+mhz
great drivers
hsdpa
microsdhc
eten X650 size (not including keyboard)
gps
video out like athena (you can stick a usb there with adaptors)
3mpx camara (good quality)
flaheable w/o voiding warranty
WiFi Draft N (3.0)
Lol. i don't see this phone ever existing.
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its an athena with better drivers and a bit smaller
Rory
3.5-4 screen
8gb+
VGA
600+mhz
sd card slot
gps
7mpx camara
flash-able
WiFi
3g
a detachable keyboard like the wizard etc, but can be removed
3.5mm headphone jack
I would be extremely happy with an iPhone with a WM6 emulator.
Although my perfect device would probably be an iPhone with WM6 emulator and the following hardware changes:
1. Removable battery.
2. Slightly shorter.
3. Lighter, less metal, more composites (less than 100g total weight).
4. Thinner, if possible, as thin as the iPod Touch.
5. MicroSD slot.
6. Standard Mini USB connector.
7. Built-in GPS.
8. 3G
I want that one ^^^
My dream phone would have similar but a little more than the specs shown above:
TouchScreen
3.5-4 screen
10gb+
600+mhz
256RAM/512ROM
2 MicroSDHC card slot
Fastest and Best GPS Signal
5-10mp with Flash camara and Even an option for Night Vision Mode
Ability to have 2 SIM Card (and yes its already done)
WiFi able to act as an Access Point with the new Wireless-N capabilities
both 3g & 4g (coming soon somewhere in 2009-2011)
Advance 3D-Acceleration Chipset with Drivers if needed
A/V Output for Video and Images
And all that in under $400 but its only a dream in the year 2008
My perfect Pocket PC would be:
3 inch full VGA touch screen with multi touch support.
Universal-like clamshell design
at least 8GB of built in memory
at least 528mhz dual core
VGA out and full USB 2.0 support (like the Athena)
3.5mm headphone jack
Good tactile keyboard.
Built in GPS
5mp auto focus camera with xenon flash
High resolution video suppor
Tytn II With Video Drivers and VGA. Is that so much to ask? They should call it the Tytn III
two words!
E-TEN V900. now if some one could gimme dat for my bday id b singin n dancin 4 weeks
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Tytn II With Video Drivers and VGA. Is that so much to ask? They should call it the Tytn III
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Actually, if they'll ever manage to really do it, they should just simply call it "The Tytn". Can't get any bigger than that... (as opposed to the "Tytn"... got the pun...? lol...)
meizu m8 sounds like a dream phone...
if they manage to finish it...
You guys dream small.
Since it's a "dream" phone I would go with the iPhone route with some not so small changes:
3Ghz quadcore inlel or amd proc.
2gb DDR3 ram @ 2000mhz
250 SSD + SD micro
Nvidia GPU that is actually a mobile desktop replacment of the 8800GT*/9800GT* (G92 series) w/512mb GDDR3 dedicated (for outputting higher res to monitor) upgradable through mini port (like the SD micro slot but for GPU's insted of memory)
HDMI out
Multitouch
WiFi a/b/g/n
FTA HD antenna
Vindows Vista compatible but allows for XP installation.
X-Fi sound 24-bit, 96KHz record and playback with full 5.1 surround through Optical S/PDIF
USB and 3.5mm sterio jack
1280x720 5" oled display. (over kill I know)
IR for remote control
Thumb print reader for security
Total control voice recognition
anti reflective screen
500nit brightness
10mp camera with flash and full motion HD recording @ 60fps
Blue Tooth
GPS
1/3 in thick and 100g
And the kicker...
Free with 3yr contract with respected service provider.
It will never happen for another 10-15 yrs or so(maybe never) but if your gonna dream you might as well dream big.
Cheers.
Really Dreaming.
sprecker said:
You guys dream small.
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You forgot a few things sprecker...
To really replace my phone, Gaming PC, Laptop, PDA, Mediagate, PVR, Still and Video Camerra, SatNav, ipod, PSP, xbox, DVD player, universal remote control, pay tv box, we would need just a few additional items to what you suggested, but not many.
A big amount of storage say 800Gb
For the unit to be able to act as a remote control, but also be remote controlled.
A series of docking stations for Office, Car, Lounge, Bedroom, Games room, I would imagine the device would have enough battery power to stay on if you ran from one station to the next. These docking stations could also have TV antena/Satelite/cable inputs for the on board tuner, and bulky items like a DVD player/burner, Keyboards, mouse, also outputs for the TV/Monitor, surround sound etc. Although all of these items could be connected directly as well if you got caught without the station.
Of course it would come with a series of accessories, like wifi gaming handsets, wifi mouse/keyboard, wifi/bluetooth stereo headset, 3D goggles.
If only it could make a cup of coffee, Now that is dreaming...
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Hey guys,
I got an e-mail last week about a gadget that seemed too good to be true but I just had to bite at a $200 device that promises a full keyboard, touchpad, screen, and USB ports to my HTC. Got it late yesterday and it does as promised and a pretty good job at that, but does open up a new can of worms. The resolution of the screen is WVGA 800 X 480, and looks reeeeeeeally nice on that apps that run, but the ones that do not will fail out because of this higher resolution mode by telling you the app will not support it or getting a microsoftish error that when the code is looked up means the same thing. Mobile Explorer runs, Opera does not, Garmin XT and Tom Tom do not, File explorer looks like you are on a real laptop and is great, but even the today screen does not look just exactly right. The thing connects either by USB or bluetooth, the later being good even for browsing but graphics intensive stuff you better plug in. She is fast, well as fast as the phone is, and consumes almost no system overhead at all which is surpriseing for what it is doing. Plug in a 16 gig stick into the USB and you have 'external storage' on file explorer, and sure enough it is there and works great, but at 1mbps so if you want to stream mp3 from it to your phone you better plug in. So basically this is a great gadget but someone with good understanding of WM should write drivers for this resolution, and amazingly they seem to be for each app and not the entire OS like big Windows ;-)
Try this
http://www.celiocorp.com/content/?page=TodayScreens
I looked around at ways to get more use out of my tilt and found the redfly Item it connects to the tilt via usb and gives you an 8 inch screen and a bigger keyboard and even a touch pad and VGA output that got me thinking "My Axim had a VGA adapter" so I started looking and found this Item http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2006/11/pda_mod_vga_rs2.html has anyone seen what would be best called a "docking Port" for the TILT?
Also considering switching out my 8925 to a Athena or a Shift? Might even trade my tilt I just need a bigger screen and VGA its hard to remote desktop on QVGA.
i'd just get a netbook and be done with it.
yeah and then use ICS with the netbook. I have a dell mini 9 and love it when it's mated to my tilt
@ChumleyEX: "ICS"?
A netbook + smartphone combi... Say, didn't Palm think of this before, and the concept failed?
internet connection sharing
Yar, this is definitly not fail. I can surf from ubuntu or windows just about anywhere with a larger screen, plus you can bluetooth your GPS to the notebook, share movies. It's pretty nice.
Lots about going Glass to PC but what about the other way around? Like TeamViewer etc?
Don't need input, just streaming display.
Thoughts ?
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Lots about going Glass to PC but what about the other way around? Like TeamViewer etc?
Don't need input, just streaming display.
Thoughts ?
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I think; glass processing power, glass data streaming, and glass battery life while data streaming are the limiting factors. These may change with updated hardware.
However, small screen size, and the lag that comes with all RDP streaming would also make it impractical.
Lastly I don't see how it would be that useful (I'd love to hear what you have in mind though) and I still haven't addressed the other problem, which is is it sounds like a lot of work to code.
I'm doing my PhD (psychology) and will be using Glass throughout. Essentially, I need a computer to 'talk' to glass in real time and have a series of computer streams be available to the Glass wearer, either by swipeable cards, or some type of quad view layout. I was hoping that a direct video stream would be simpler than writing full software (especially since I've only just begun to learn java).
Battery can be dealt with (external battery pack).
Data over WiFi should be good enough.
I found this
https://developers.google.com/glass/develop/mirror/static-cards?hl=en#attaching_video
But we run into programming limitations at the moment.
And I saw someone had made an app that streamed from a Go PRO camera via a URL , with camera connected to PC, but I think updates have killed that option, for now. I have tried to sidleoad several VNC client apps but I can't access any of the fields to fill in server information.
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jewnersey said:
I'm doing my PhD (psychology) and will be using Glass throughout. Essentially, I need a computer to 'talk' to glass in real time and have a series of computer streams be available to the Glass wearer, either by swipeable cards, or some type of quad view layout. I was hoping that a direct video stream would be simpler than writing full software (especially since I've only just begun to learn java).
Battery can be dealt with (external battery pack).
Data over WiFi should be good enough.
I found this
https://developers.google.com/glass/develop/mirror/static-cards?hl=en#attaching_video
But we run into programming limitations at the moment.
And I saw someone had made an app that streamed from a Go PRO camera via a URL , with camera connected to PC, but I think updates have killed that option, for now. I have tried to sidleoad several VNC client apps but I can't access any of the fields to fill in server information.
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I think it is definitely possible with cards but I don't think streaming is. I have a GoPro hero 3 black edition and it is capable of streaming because it creates its own WiFi hotspot that a phone can connect to and stream from although it gets very hot while doing it and reduces battery quickly.
I think the cards option would work best, what type of data are you going to be displaying? Lastly I think once the newer model comes out with more RAM, a better processor, and a better battery that it will be much more possible to stream a live feed from the computer. It is definitely possible in terms of software, its just a matter of how difficult. I'm not sure if the current Glass software is going to be able to do the trick. But since glass is really an android phone you might be able to talk to th developer of an already-existing android phone app that streams from a computer (there are lots of them). They might give you a general idea of how to code for it.
I did look at the link but I know very little about Java (although that will change soon) and I only know some C++ so sadly I can't help you with the actual code.
2022 WORKAROUND TO PARSEC ON TABLETS
This guide is intended for anyone who is trying to get Parsec running on an Android or even Apple tablets. It would also apply to anyone really wanting to play ANY PC game on ANY tablet.
Disclaimer:
This IS a workaround and NOT a way to FIX the issues with Parsec Android.
If you are interested in how my Parsec Android testing went, and if your really want to give it a try see Parsec below for my suggestions.
Otherwise if you just want to skip to the good stuff head down to WORKAROUND
PARSEC ANDROID
Parsec Android is in the EXPERIMENTAL phase, and even after testing on multiple versions and variations of devices I could not get the decoding to work. Regardless of H.264 vs H.265, Frame Rate, Resolution, Overlay, or any other setting for that matter. I have seen that some capable people are playing around with settings in the actual configuration file, and I am sure SOME people have gotten it to work but I don’t not see it as a viable option as this point in time. More development is needed, and I am a WARP supporter of Parsec myself.
If you DO want to give it a try, I have personally found that the Android APK version V3.150.046.00 seemed to be the closest to working for me across all versions. (You can find it online from APK resources) Coincidentally I noticed that this version of the APK has a lot of options that FUTURE versions remove. Not sure why they decided to remove thinks like the H.265 vs H.264, probably because compatibility wise it was better to just force H.264 and remove the option. Not sure just guessing. I did not have a lot of luck with the current V3.150.078.00 version. Which was a little disappointing but hopefully they are working on it. Even the App resolution is worse, the login screen from .046.00 version looked amazing, now its looks very pixelated like they dropped the main menu resolution.
WORKAROUND
What you need:
A windows based Parsec Host Machine
A windows based Parsec Client Machine
An Android tablet within the last decade, or an Apple Ipad of any generation
A Bluetooth controller of some sort
Bluetooth Headset of some sort
A Bluetooth 5.0 receiver (Sorry Bluetooth 5.0 is leaps and bounds better, get a 5.0 dongle)
Basic Theory:
Parsec Windows works better than any version of Parsec, so we need to ensure that both the HOST and client machines are Windows based. Preferable Windows 10 as this is what used. The client machine does not have to be very powerful, a cheap laptop is a good option, the reason is we are going to be setting this to the resolution of our tablet. Which is most cases is relative low.
After you have your client and hosts setup the next step is the workaround part. As we have said Parsec android is still far from a stable version, so we need to find a way to work around it for now while still using the Parsec software.
Now you have two options here. I would suggest you use both option depending on the game you are playing. Regardless install the following programs to your CLIENT MACHINE as well as your TABLET/IPAD.
Software to Install;
Spacedesk (www.spacedesk.net)
Splashtop Wired XDisplay (https://www.splashtop.com/en-ca/wiredxdisplay)
Once both of those are installed on your CLIENT PC and your TABLET/IPAD. Do the following;
For Splashtop Wired XDisplay you need to turn on USB debugging mode. Google this for your specific device, very easy to do.
For Spacedesk you need to open the application on your CLIENT and read the IP address of this machine (It will be listed on the main page), then on your tablet enter this IP address in the APP to create the wireless connection between your tablet and your Client PC.
Now that both of these tools are configured here is the fun part;
Using Splashtop Wired XDisplay (Wired, HIGHEST RESOLUTION, ZERO LAG)
If you are playing games where FPS and LAG are very important, IE when I play warzone for example. Use Splashtop Wired XDisplay from your client machine to the tablet.
This will basically let you use the tablet as the PRIMARY MONITOR (Make sure to set this in windows display “Only on display 2”) for your client windows machine.
I realize that you could just use the laptop as a the client and not need the tablet, but personally speaking Id rather have a laptop under my couch and just connect a cable with the tablet on my lap then use the laptop itself. In my case my client is a very small M73 Tiny so it basically gives me a display that is just as compact.
…Not the point as we are about to get to the wireless part that you all really care about.
Using Spacedesk (Wireless, Decent resolution, Minor LAG)
I have used spacedesk to play games like CSgo and Warzone but there is a bit of lag, I would say its playable in my opinion as the lag isn’t brutally bad or anything. For basically NON-FPS games I have no issue with the amount of lag here, I play a lot of RPG games in this mode and have no issues.
Start the Spacedesk Host program on your Client PC.
Open the Android APP and connect to the Client PC that we setup earlier when we put in its IP address.
You should now see your full desktop of your client PC, and be able to click Parsec and load into your HOST PC as normal. Except you now have the video feed directly to the tablet by Spacedesk.
Caviate:
To get this to work well you NEED a Bluetooth 5.0 received on the Client PC. I have a 5.0 bluetooth dongle I got off Amazon in my M73T. You setup your controller AND your audio through the client PC directly to your Bluetooth device. So you do not have any addition input lag then you work using parsec on the client pc directly, same with audio.
This means that the only thing the Spacedesk app is taking care of the is the video signal to the device, all the input and audio is direct from the client PC instead of through the tablet.
It just means you need to have the client PC you use (Just buy a cheap laptop and keep it closed at all times, basically using it as a server for Parsec) Both of these tools can be initiated from power on so you don’t actually need any screen. Like in my case I have the M73T Tiny that I can carry around as it is the size of a book, full 64bit windows 10 capable. I just power it on wherever I want to play and walk away from it, the tablet automatically grabs the video feed and gives me the login screen.
I recognize this is not an idea solution, as the ideal solution would be a stable Parsec Android app, but who knows when that will be. So for the time being THIS does work for playing Games Wirelessly as long as you have a spare laptop, or willing to invest very little money.
My M73T Tiny was $80, and it came with a 1TB drive. So basically free lol. They are everywhere, highly recommended as a client machine. Even on my full size 55” TV I stream 1440P through parsec and its flawless.
Example of me running warzone wirelessly.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1238JsH1vzgoMqtKXJzllPjKgCEqHy5DB/view?usp=sharing
with a wired Splashtop connection the quality is unreal. Try it.
Cheers,
Sniper Fox 22
Forgot to mention. Set your Parsec HOST resolution to that of your tablet. Set your client pc resolution to that of your tablet (most times this happens automatically when you connect to the apps on tablet) it helps that a tablets resolution is lower than most pcs as parsec will run smoother at lower resolutions. At this low a resolution switch from low latency to best quality on your HOST computer as well.