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Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
search and read before you get flamed
You have to install hard-spl (in the Kaiser ROM Development section) by pof/olipro. Once you do that, find the rom you want, download it, and run the RUU.
It involves 2 paperclips and a wall socket, if you would like to proceed let me know.
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+1 well said....
Tek12x said:
Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
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i'd think twice about a semi-noob...i think u've just upgraded urself to a full noob....
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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LOL...u cant be serious
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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rofl......no way!!!!
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Then you searched the wrong forum. This one has over 1.5 MILLION Posts.
Tek12x said:
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Maybe he searched for the text string "anything"???
Nope. I tried that and got...
Results 1 - 10 of about 65,400 from forum.xda-developers.com for "anything". (0.22 seconds)
Maybe he (or she) should try this sticky at the top of the Kaiser General page on searching...
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I think maybe he meant an official microsoft upgrade, not a "cooked rom". Microsoft has not realeased an upgrade to Windows Mobile Pro 6.0 for the tilt if that is what you meant . The only 6.1's that people are talking about are custom roms.
i don't think denco most of us here rely on "oem" official upgrades .. none the less searching and reading than searching some more and than some more reading and than memorizing what you have read is a MUST >.. so happy reading.
What?
While getting chastized by someone who joined "our forum" less than a month ago is appealing to people, it was a simple question that I thought got misunderstood. So I decided to end the thread with a simple answer, because I'm sure people have other things to do. Apparently not. I have had my Tilt since 10/07 and know it inside and out mostly from reading this forum since 10/07, and have never felt the need for a cooked rom. Screw with the interface yes, rom no need. Interesting poll question though. Out of 681,176 members on this site how many have oem roms and how many have custom roms? I know the most vocal have custom roms ,but 600000 is a lot of people
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I think maybe he meant an official microsoft upgrade, not a "cooked rom". Microsoft has not realeased an upgrade to Windows Mobile Pro 6.0 for the tilt if that is what you meant . The only 6.1's that people are talking about are custom roms.
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Maybe, However I don't think a developers/enthusiasts forum is the best place to ask.
denco7 said:
While getting chastized by someone who joined "our forum" less than a month ago is appealing to people, it was a simple question that I thought got misunderstood. So I decided to end the thread with a simple answer, because I'm sure people have other things to do. Apparently not. I have had my Tilt since 10/07 and know it inside and out mostly from reading this forum since 10/07, and have never felt the need for a cooked rom. Screw with the interface yes, rom no need. Interesting poll question though. Out of 681,176 members on this site how many have oem roms and how many have custom roms? I know the most vocal have custom roms ,but 600000 is a lot of people
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So he feels a sense of belonging after a few weeks nothing wrong with that. Also a forum is not defined by its number of members, but its number of active members and the mission statement made by the Founders.
Mission Statement:
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
MACkjam said:
To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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So you're telling me that having the inability to search is perfectly acceptable?
Google is arguably the best search engine around, and XDA uses it for site searches. Do you go to Google's home page, and then without typing anything in the search box, just give up?
It ultimately comes down to the rules of the forum; one of which included searching before creating threads. If someone cannot follow a few simple rules, then they have bigger issues then not knowing how to install a ROM on their phone.
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This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
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well...if the OP..not necessarily this one but all others too...if they have the time to post this question which may have been posted and asked several million times...then they have the time to search and find out for themselves..thats why the search button is there..
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Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Those that have tried have never been back for a second attempt. Of that, you can be sure.
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So you're telling me that having the inability to search is perfectly acceptable?
Google is arguably the best search engine around, and XDA uses it for site searches. Do you go to Google's home page, and then without typing anything in the search box, just give up?
It ultimately comes down to the rules of the forum; one of which included searching before creating threads. If someone cannot follow a few simple rules, then they have bigger issues then not knowing how to install a ROM on their phone.
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My problem is not with reminding people to search,some of my answers to posts have also included gentle reminders to search followed by helpful ( I hope ) answers. My problem is with flaming people before clarifying the question. I "did" a forum search on an MS upgrade for 6.0 on a TILT before I decided to speak up and found nothing pertaining to the tilt. " How do you install Windows Mobile 6.1 on a Tilt? " " There is no 6.1 yet. " How hard is that? I have been programming for 33 yrs, I started out on a key punch terminal and then fed hundreds of punch cards into a reel to reel magnetic tape " processor " the size of most people's living rooms. My first in a long line of PDAs and smart phones, was an Apple Newton. I may be an idiot, but not from lack of experience. Exactly when did people get so full of themselves. But this is not " my " forum so I guess I should just butt out.
MACkjam said:
To all the "feel-good" and "Rambo" flamers of noobs....all I can say is shame on you.
You make people feel as welcome as a boil on one's ass.
Get a life all of you. This is not about "SEARCH" all the time. If you have the time to give a shmarmy reply, then you have the time to be helpful. If not, then perhaps you should just ignore requests for help for those that "GASP" don't "search"....OH MY GOODNESS!!!
I shake my head with disbelief at the overt hostility to simple questions.
Are you guys always like this??? Don't you get smacked every now and then? You need to....
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Shame on me? Shame on you sir. This forum is filled with very usefull and important information. People just need to look for it. If we allow every Tom, ****, and Bob, to post threads willy-nilly without remand or maintaining some flow. The forum become deluted with crap, the information will be impossible to find. And our key smart people will leave. Then we might as well change the Topic of this forum to "Talking about the OC."
The Mods have said their piece on this, I personally have been following their wishes. I recommend everyone else does too.
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Totally agree. No one wants thread jumping or serial threaders or how do I turn on my phone? But it seemed like a simple question and the " noob " got totally flamed for it. Jimmy, you pointed out that maybe a developers/enthusiast site is not the place for simple questions, but then you go and point out the mission statement to me that says that "as our site grew we realized that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from lack of support". " and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developers forum." A bit of a contradiction , which is it a snotty developers forum, like Jimmy suggests in the first half of his post ( I believe there already is a section of this forum for development and hacking ideas that is off limits to the common folk), or a users forum like the mission statement suggests in the second half of his post? I can live with either one.
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Maybe I should have been more clear. I know this is a Users Forum. Given the Typical Popular Topics I might say "Power User." Still The Mission Statement put forth by the Founders says users forum, not Free Technical Support Forum. Giving someone some Support and doing the researchfor them without thanks at two totally separate things. You need to learn to have a little thicker skin. I didn't say Snotty Developers Forum.
Fine you know what, you want to be an ass about all this, since I appear to be the only one of this opinion. That opinion of use "search" first, and start a new thread as a last resort. Here you go then....
Tek12x said:
Hey guys (and girls),
Hey i'm a semi-n00b and don't know how to update the version of Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt. Anyone can tell me how?? Thanks
Tek12x
I tried searching the forum but couldn't find anything.
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Its Really Quite Easy. Place HardSPL on your device. Heres the thread for it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Then look through here to find a Windows Mobile 6.1 Based Custom ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=378
If you are looking for the Offical Windows Mobile 6.1 from Microsoft, I'm not sure. Maybe you should check their website. http://www.microsoft.com
This is a request to all uses and moderators.
I would like to see three things.
1) Sticky's/Announcements in Kaiser General to the FAQ/GWENI/ETC. Currently these are listed in ROM development and not intuitive for a new user to find.
2) A guide for NOOBZ - while the above are invaluable resources, they don't address very basic issues. Things like:
How do I use activesync to install a CAB?
How do I do a basic registry edit
Where can I look for good software for x, y, and z
What does ROM, CID, SIM, XML mean...in general a Glossary
other basic tasks/information
I don't have the bandwidth to create such a guide right now, but if someone would like to volunteer, particularly a user who has gone through a noob to more experienced level using this site and is aware of the issues and pitfalls. It would be much appreciated...
3) A forum section for Noobz... As we have seen many posts as of late with titles like "I am a noob" , "Help me...","What software is good?",etc.
I think having this forum there would attract these posts better while appease the larger community from having to entertain these even in the general forum. Which, as some have stated should be a forum for questions not releated to the other 3, and not as a place for spoonfeeding.
If you think any of these 3 suggestions is a good idea, please post your support and or ideas.
thanks
Agree, sounds like a good idea.
My other suggestion would be to migrate to mediawiki as it just works nicer and the wiki may be developed more and be easier for noobies to get through!
good idea .. but i bet there will still be stupid posts by users who just wana be spoon fed.
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good idea .. but i bet there will still be stupid posts by users who just wana be spoon fed.
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Im a noob and need help
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You mentioned "spoon fed" how do you do this? can you show me. Is it a .cab and if so how do i install.
Thank you and please don't flame me
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good idea .. but i bet there will still be stupid posts by users who just wana be spoon fed.
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I agree.
However many of the "senior" or more educated members of the forum seem to get quite upset at these "noob" and/or redundant posts.
There are three ways to handle a post like this:
1) Ignore it
2) Flame it
3) Respond in a helpful manner
Ignoring it works, and it is something ALL OF US NEED TO DO MORE. Remember, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all. (The Internet is encroaching more and more into the realm of real life...it has been shown more than once that bullying someone on line can have legal consequences in real life.). However, ignoring posts won't make them go away either, as there will be more since nothing is being done to educate the user or point future users in the right direction.
Flaming it serves no one any good. Stupid users won't learn, and if flaming makes you feel better, just remember you are taking up just as much (or more) of the forum resources and wasting just as much time flaming a worthless or uneducated post. Remember, fighting on the Internet is like competing in the special olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded (no offense meant to the special olympics, or mentally challenged individuals...I have just always found this statement funny...and true).
Responding in a helpful manner should be the way to go if you choose not to ignore it. But, a helpful manner does not mean spoon feeding. Remember, "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime." Proactive responses such as sticky's and announcments do the most to this effect.
As a "forum" in the classical sense, this should be a place for thought and discussion. However, it is also a gathering place for the masses. The leaders of the society should strive to educate and elucidate. However this can't be done on an individual level for every single post.
No man is an island either and to be part of the greater continent that is XDA-DEVELOPERS they need to have a modicum of intellect insofar that they know how to navigate an internet site.
I would feel better knowing that we have made ALL the resources available to the masses. This way we don't need to feel bad about ignoring any posts that we deem are ignorant.
I'm sure you have all heard the old saying about the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results....
Rather than attempt to dispel "NOOB" queries by means such as WIKIs,FAQs and the like which clearly have proven futile, it would make more sense to come up with a method of allowing such queries in a manner that doesn't encroach on the sense of ownership of the forum that seems to prevail amongst the senior members.
bengalih said:
This is a request to all uses and moderators.
I would like to see three things.
1) Sticky's/Announcements in Kaiser General to the FAQ/GWENI/ETC. Currently these are listed in ROM development and not intuitive for a new user to find.
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As stated to you before but I'm stating so that more people can see it, I completely agree with this.
2) A guide for NOOBZ - while the above are invaluable resources, they don't address very basic issues. Things like:
How do I use activesync to install a CAB?
How do I do a basic registry edit
Where can I look for good software for x, y, and z
What does ROM, CID, SIM, XML mean...in general a Glossary
other basic tasks/information
I don't have the bandwidth to create such a guide right now, but if someone would like to volunteer, particularly a user who has gone through a noob to more experienced level using this site and is aware of the issues and pitfalls. It would be much appreciated...
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Also as you know, I have gone from newb to somewhat experienced almost solely through this site and I'll work on the bold part above this week and weekend. Here is my 1st attempt at it though.
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I'm sure you have all heard the old saying about the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results....
Rather than attempt to dispel "NOOB" queries by means such as WIKIs,FAQs and the like which clearly have proven futile, it would make more sense to come up with a method of allowing such queries in a manner that doesn't encroach on the sense of ownership of the forum that seems to prevail amongst the senior members.
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I'm not sure what the point of stating this is?
We have a new idea...the noob forum. This is in addition to refining the current methods to possibly make them more effective.
What would your method be?
I also don't feel that the senior's assume a sense of ownership. Except to the effect that without them there would be no resources and thus this site wouldn't exist and thus be visited by noobz. I think the sense is more of outrage or incredulity the same as any member of a community would have when it accumulates members who have no concept of how to function in that society.
Don't you think that some people in your community might get a little offput if they had some native tribe move in and walk around naked? Performed drum circles at 2am every night? Dump on the lawns?
It is about community upkeep, and you don't have to be a senior to do it. In fact, some seniors may be counter productive. It is about being knowledgeable of your surroundings and willing to learn the rules to properly assimilate.
i love ur writing style bengalih ur posts are always so perfectly composed
I agree as well
I am not new to the forum because I have been lurking in the shadows for a while and have not posted anything as of yet but I have to totally agree with this request as I think that it is a great idea.I know that it would help me out a lot and feel that it would help others out as well.
I also just wanted to post this private message I got from a user:
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Hello I'm [name removed] and I will be the first to say that I am new to all of this but I was reading a post and u had suggested that a "noobie Forum" might be a good idea and I would have to agree.
I have just gotten an AT&T Tilt and I have spent hours on top of hours reading in the forums here and I have to say that a lot of it is very complicated for someone like me who doesn't understand ROMs and Flashing and things like that.
I have read a lot of the post and to be honest I have had several questions that I could not find anwsers too after searching and have been terrified to post my question because of the negitivity and hostility that I have read.
The problem that I am having is that I am not understanding a lot of what is being written and am not sure what I should put on my phone or how to do it correctly.I am not stupid,ignorant,nor have I not taken the time to read and search things on this forum.
I am college educated and fairly intelligent but I am not tech savy or computer savy for that matter and I don't understand a lot of what is being said.I will admit that my phone is smarter than I am but I would like to learn how to use it more effecentally and get the most out of my phone and what it can do for me.
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I hope you senior/educated members take to heart comments like this and realize that although this isn't rocket science there are still many educated individuals that don't know where to start. Even after a user RTFM (which this user apparently did some), there is obviously a gap to get them to the next level.
We have to accept that this has become a place for the PPC masses and we can either ignore the pleas for help or do something to assist in the long term.
On the flip-side to you noobs... don't get over your head. You don't buy a junker or a tuner if you're not a mechanic, and you don't try to paint the Mona Lisa if you're just a dilletante. If you are in a position where you can't understand things even after hours of research you may want to get your feet wet in something else (like a basic computer class), or you can always buy from Apple . This stuff isn't for everyone, and unfortunately nothing we do will make it so.
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First off I began writing the previously posted comment prior to your well spoken post above.
The ownership I spoke of was reference to the few senior members that feel a need to reply to every single post by redundantly pointing out the redundancy of others.
My suggestion was to avoid the attempt of "pre-answering" all possible questions. It can't be done.
Nor is it reasonable to expect all knowledge to exist on the same level. Take the analogy of communities that you spoke of (which I agreed with up until you equated elemental levels of knowledge with pooping on one's lawn).
Within all successful communities you have an acknowledged and agreed upon division of areas of education.
In other words 1st graders don't sit in the same classroom as upperclassmates...
...nor do upperclassmates refuse to graduate.
I think the idea of a noob forum sounds good, and I believe it would help separate many of the redundant posts in the general forum.......but at the same time, if those posts are separated so as not to bother the more experienced people from having to sort through them, then who is going to help them? Would we have noobs answering other noobs? I'm afraid we would end up with the blind leading the blind.
By that same token, if the experienced users decided to venture into the noob forum to help them....then separating the posts for the sake of not having to wade through them seems somewhat counter-productive.
Don't take any of this as a negative. I think putting together a collection of noob resources is a good idea, and creating a noob forum may be as well......I'm just trying to weigh the benefits with the potential problems it could cause.
I am probley the top flamer (IMO) and sometimes I flame and sometimes not. Mostly I flame people who you can honestly see from the question that they didn't look for anything. If I can find the answer in 5 minutes and you claim to have spent days, then I know you didn't search. As to the person that has read and still doesn't understand, please post. Most of the time those people come out and explain things in their question so that you can tell they actually have an understanding.
Asking a specific question about a step or a method in an educated manor is far better then say, I Are noob, what software should I install, oh and can someone literally hold my hand while I flash this rom on my phone.
If you're willing to educate yourself then it shows.
I know that I was nervous and a little scared before I flashed for the first time. I was on edge the whole time, but I knew I read over the instructions over and over.. I have read them again and again and I just don't see where the mistakes happen.
I will provide support if you need it, but you don't need it if the answer is right there, 3 posts down or if it's a well known thing.
Oh I wonder if you could keep that forum from registering in the search function.
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First off I began writing the previously posted comment prior to your well spoken post above.
The ownership I spoke of was reference to the few senior members that feel a need to reply to every single post by redundantly pointing out the redundancy of others.
My suggestion was to avoid the attempt of "pre-answering" all possible questions. It can't be done.
Nor is it reasonable to expect all knowledge to exist on the same level. Take the analogy of communities that you spoke of (which I agreed with up until you equated elemental levels of knowledge with pooping on one's lawn).
Within all successful communities you have an acknowledged and agreed upon division of areas of education.
In other words 1st graders don't sit in the same classroom as upperclassmates...
...nor do upperclassmates refuse to graduate.
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Agreed. Although I stand by my "pooping" comment . The fact is that all of those levels of knowledge may be perfectly acceptable in some communities, but totally unacceptable in others (ok ok, granted not too many poop on their lawns...but not that far off.).
I think you are right that we can't answer all questions, but we can try. I think if we can teach the fundamentals, and then a lower classman learns those he should be able to synthesize most of the remaining elements.
For what they can't extract from their learnings, they can ask a question on. After all, most of the info passed around here isn't new, it is synthesized and rehashed in different forms applicable to a particular issue.
I don't think we can get rid of the basic posts, the "I am a noob posts", the didn't search for this first post. But I do think putting them in another question would help.
I know it has been suggested before, and I don't know if it is possible (I have been on other forums that can do this....) But it would be great if we could limit posting to the noob forum for the first 2 weeks of someone's membership.
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I think the idea of a noob forum sounds good, and I believe it would help separate many of the redundant posts in the general forum.......but at the same time, if those posts are separated so as not to bother the more experienced people from having to sort through them, then who is going to help them? ....
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I am probley the top flamer (IMO) and sometimes I flame and sometimes not. Mostly I flame people who you can honestly see from the question that they didn't look for anything. ....
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I think you are far from the worst Chumley...but as a genuine question:
Why do you feel the need to flame? Why not just ignore the post?
I am not stating this rhetorically to be preachy. I am asking to figure out how we can eliminate it.
Personally I sometimes want to flame back a flamer just for contributing something just as worthless as the original post, but I refrain.
I mean, if someone came into the ROM Development forum and posted "I am a NOOB, how can I please to update my phone!!!" I would expect and even welcome the flames there. If we have to terrify the users to know their place then that's ok...the second part of that though is we NEED TO GIVE THEM A PLACE TO PUT THEM IN! That's why I think a noob forum might help.
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But it would be great if we could limit posting to the noob forum for the first 2 weeks of someone's membership.
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But isn't that really the point that's being refused to be acknowledged?
This is the noob forum. Senior members who have already acquired the "upper" levels of knowledge are begrudgingly noticing that not every day is a day of discovery like before and are being faced with the choice of becoming teachers or finding other sources of higher knowledge.
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But isn't that really the point that's being refused to be acknowledged?
This is the noob forum. Senior members who have already acquired the "upper" levels of knowledge are begrudgingly noticing that not every day is a day of discovery like before and are being faced with the choice of becoming teachers or finding other sources of higher knowledge.
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I'm not sure of your statement of "This is the noob forum"
Are you suggesting that either the "General" forum or XDA-developers in general is now for noobz?
I would whole-heartedly disagree with the latter. As for the former, General is not meant for noobz, it is meant for anything that doesn't fit in the other 3 forums (e.g, not about ROM development, not about an accessory, not about a specific piece of software).
I don't want to keep stressing the name of the site is "XDA-Developers." Just because it may be bombarded by power users or noobz, shouldn't diminish the function of the site. If the attitude starts to become "This is where noobz should be" then I think you are going to see some real problems. The least of which is that if you piss off the seniors, they WILL go somewhere else and this site will become meaningless.
well I suppose it comes from many things. As a child I was bullied and now I find myself in a situation of assumed power. Or, I feel that because spent the time to educate myself, through all the grulling threads, I have the right to do it. And like a drill Sergent , I will not be nice about teaching you to fish.
Man I gotta work on my rep.
Hello XDA, I go by either Motorhead1991 or simply Motorhead (depending on the forum).
My current projects include the Samsung Rugby Smart and kernel development for various devices. I have access to a Velocity Micro Cruz T301 and an LG Optimus Q.
Welcome to XDA. Feel free to check this guide out when you have a little time.
[GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA
Im on another couple of Forums, but this one by far is the trickiest.haha. Great info though
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Im on another couple of Forums, but this one by far is the trickiest.haha. Great info though
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This forum is totally hard work and not new user friendly at all. I have important development contributions to make and have to waste my time "hanging out" and making useless posts. The damn captcha thing is annoying as hell and takes at least 3-4 attempts then there's a minute waiting time between posts. Give us a break.
Thanks for the welcome guys. I've already started my first source project, in partnership with Kemonine96. .
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This forum is totally hard work and not new user friendly at all. I have important development contributions to make and have to waste my time "hanging out" and making useless posts. The damn captcha thing is annoying as hell and takes at least 3-4 attempts then there's a minute waiting time between posts. Give us a break.
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Spammers come to market products. That is how we stop them. Think of a better solution. Then we talk
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There is no freedom to talk in these forums, guess u people are making stuff resticted to those who just came here to flash roms.
No space for improvement i guess. Some narcissistic people are willing to make this forum like the symbian forum which is now closed forever.
When there is a question posted, wait for the reply before closing it atleast.
Some hopeless blind followers are not letring the critics do their work. I will keep on saying that google is forcing users to use their services.
If u wanna close my thread close it but dont expect that u can easily shut me up. I will share my thoughts to some place else.
Truth is always bitter.
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Sharing thought or constructive criticism should be accepted here.
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I agree, some of the mods should be fired.
There is freedom of speech if it is of use to the android platform..but why complain and make a fuss to people who have choosen android as there preferred format I'm sure there are different forums to rant if your not happy with your phone but this one is mostly used for useful information to benefit the note community and development..
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If google is willing to make it better then they should implement things i am suggesting for tizen in their android.
Its plain and simple they are making basic functionality compromized even with such a great hardware due to poor piece of codes. My dialer pad opens slow, keyboard lags, wifi signal drops even a cheap nokia does these things in a flash. When i am suggesting how to improve people are making fun of me. Thats sad.
Constructive criticism should always be taken with open heart.
For a general user beside installing a seperate keyboard and launcher modify notification menu what else is there? Nothing this is simple customization.
Widgets are not androids stuff, old nokia started widget fashion so i would not credit android for that.
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There is freedom of speech if it is of use to the android platform..but why complain and make a fuss to people who have choosen android as there preferred format I'm sure there are different forums to rant if your not happy with your phone but this one is mostly used for useful information to benefit the note community and development..
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I love my phone and infactvi am the one who got it on the day of release but u always want to make what u love more better.
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Buddy don't take things about ur phone to bad I don't think there will ever be a perfect phone whatever platform..what they fix for somthing it will always make somthing else worse for sombody else but that's what I personally like about android its so customizable so if ur not happy with ur keyboard there are loads of third party apps in the market..and I think thats why the big companies like samsung know this and try and concentrate more on hardware more than software..
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So what does google have to do with mods here closing your threads ??
Anyways, if you don't understand then ask the mod in question to explain.
Well, I would guess your threads are being closed because they don't fit the forum you are posting in. You are in a Q&A for the N7000, help and troubleshooting but your subject has nothing to do with the N7000, troubleshooting or help. Maybe post in the General Section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=256
Perhaps OP you can share with us the threads that are closed?
Let me go through the list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133346
posted question in general instead of Q&A
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2132502
Let me quote the Mod's post:
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qazibasit, if you want to complain about Android do it here -->> http://source.android.com/community/index.html
XDA is for developers, not complainers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2132510
Posted a flame baiting thread about Samsung and Galaxy Note on the Nexus 4 forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131892
Same thing in the Nexus 4 forums. Angsty unconstructive post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097327
Another defiant post again on the same thing, does not contribute to anything except flame baiting
There you go OP,
now please counter each point instead of being obscure.
Go PM the mod if you are unhappy.
P.S.
I'm requesting that your thread be closed.
Well first the flame burning post because, soon N4 users will feel cheated. Google is cheating them by giving them something which is just a mirage. U can see the issues in that forum about their phones ehich theyvare encountering just after 2 months.
N4 users posted such flame burning threads on our forums, they then started abusing and showing racism on someones views.
xda is not loyal to any one company, so if we feel that google is monopolizing at one front we have the right to say it.
There are many topics which i started and were closed and after a few days someone else posted the same things and are still active.
These topics are posted in general discussions with no intention to disturb the development on any front.
Lastly we have to admit that via these web services we are compromising our data on daily basis and making specific tech giants more powerful and their data servers artificially intelligent day by day. I dont want them to sell us our data in future.
A clear example is youtube. Our data made comercially available to us. Sorry if u will just want to blow their trumpet and make us go in the ditch.
Today another user posted the same thing in N4 forum which i said 2 days ago and my topic was closed.
Another user on N4 shared the same opinion that we are forced to use google services, being android users.
In all the topics i posted just tell me where i was wrong.
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qazibasit, I was not aware of your other closed threads. I did not close them. You were PM'd by the Senior Moderator who closed. So hopefully that answers the question you pose by creating this thread, which is also pointless.
I fail to see the "point" of the thread I closed. Your thread was just a complaint. XDA is slowly filling up with "complaints" of all manners. XDA is and always will be focused on development, not just of Android, but all platforms that enable us to better our devices.
What in your thread I closed, allows us (the XDA community) to improve Android? Why post them here? Why not submit them to the AOSP I provided you with a link for? If you are not prepared to attempt to fix the "problem" you have no foundation to make any complaint about it.
Google do not charge you to use their services or features, nor do they make you use them. You decided to buy an Android handset. If your unhappy about that, then that is your decision. When you buy a new handset, buy iOS, Windows Phone, Blackberry, there is choice, you just made the wrong one.
If anyone has an issue with the standard of moderation from any moderator please contact the Moderator Committee (in confidence) with your concerns.
Lastly before the "Freedom of Speech" card is played. XDA is not a democracy, nor do you have any right of freedom of speech here. You all agreed to the rules XDA expects all users to follow. You should also read this. http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/ilaw/Speech/
Sad to say it, but Thread Closed.
HI you guys are awesome
Well hi all, I'm 'new', but not really that new, since I've been searching through XDA topics on many occasions for quite a few years now. Not sure why it took me so long to actually make an account, but here I am.
So about me - half geek, half creative, F/LOSS enthusiast for over 20 years, full time Linux user since 2006, interested in way to many subjects to ever become a specialist in any of them within at least a dozen of life spans. Hence I don't think I'll ever be able to call myself a developer, but hey, we'll see ;-)
Hello everyone, i'm back here after a long, long time
I used to read alot here when i was 10 - 15 but I think i switched to iOs during 2010s and i never really had my phone in the center of my occupations so i bought some macbook & iphone and i started to learn code. (mostly js)
I would be really happy to help users here, if i can, and discuss about my new device. 2020s seems to be redditable as **** tbh, the xda lost kid became some kind of creative dev who's going back to the r00t
Thank you for everything I have read here over the last years!
More than anything, XDA is a community, and we're all here for different reasons.
Some are here to mod their phone--some joined just to ask a question. Or perhaps, like many, you joined so long ago, you have no idea why you're here (which is totally fine! we've been around for almost a decade). And we're in the process of making XDA more useful to everyone here now that we've moved to much better forum software.
But we'd love to know your XDA story: why are you here, and who are you? What's your day job, what phones do you have, where do you live, what do you like to do for fun? We'd love to get to know you!
Also, be sure to spend some time filling out your profile:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/account-details
And also adding what phones you have to your inventory:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/xda-devices
thanks and welcome. I'm one of the guys in charge and my DMs are always open if you ever want to chat or even complain.
Go ahead and make a new thread in this forum instead of replying to this post.
svetius said:
More than anything, XDA is a community, and we're all here for different reasons.
Some are here to mod their phone--some joined just to ask a question. Or perhaps, like many, you joined so long ago, you have no idea why you're here (which is totally fine! we've been around for almost a decade). And we're in the process of making XDA more useful to everyone here now that we've moved to much better forum software.
But we'd love to know your XDA story: why are you here, and who are you? What's your day job, what phones do you have, where do you live, what do you like to do for fun? We'd love to get to know you!
Also, be sure to spend some time filling out your profile:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/account-details
And also adding what phones you have to your inventory:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/account/xda-devices
thanks and welcome. I'm one of the guys in charge and my DMs are always open if you ever want to chat or even complain.
Go ahead and make a new thread in this forum instead of replying to this post.
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Glad u no longer have to post in that old sticky pinned thread which is Here
New introductions forum is this way > https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/introductions.12157/
What's up,
I'm youngspeed and I'm here to further my knowledge on tech. But I also have a few questions.
1 how do I sign in to the app because it redirects me to my browser to confirm authorization but when I do it takes me back to the XDA app but doesn't sign me in. (Update: I was able to sign in so I don't have a question about this anymore)
2 does anyone know how to get Google Camera on the Samsung A10e without rooting or flashing because I have been trying but no success. If there is a way can you send the apk please?
And lastly how do I make a discussion? Thanks
Hello to all.
i have 2 samsung
Samsung S8 SM-G950F
Vers: One UI 1.0
Vers: Android 9 (not rotated)
Samsung Galaxy A6 + SM-A605FN _: Edit.
Vers: One UI 2.0
Vers: Android 10
rotated: twrp_3.2.3-1_sm-a605_141218 / RMM-State_Bypass_Mesa_v2 / no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0 / Magisk-v21.4_
(I had tried, Magisk-v20.3) not good! (cellular brick)
the reboot problem appears to me often. twrp ...
Hope we can learn from you, thank you!
Ciao a tutti.
ho 2 Samsung
Samsung S8 SM-G950F
Vers: One UI 1.0
Vers: Android 9 (non ruotato)
Samsung Galaxy A6 + SM-A605FN _:Edit.
Vers: One UI 2.0
Vers: Android 10
ruotato: twrp_3.2.3-1_sm-a605_141218 / RMM-State_Bypass_Mesa_v2 / no-verity-opt-encrypt-6.0 / Magisk-v21.4_
(Avevo provato, Magisk-v20.3) non va bene! (mattone cellulare)
il problema di riavvio mi appare spesso. twrp ...
Spero che possiamo imparare da te, grazie!
Hello. I have an LG expression 3 and a MotoG 7 power .i am here looking for a ROM or theme for both phones.
A while back I had an AOPk boot animation that was awesome and the alien ROM ( I think) . it had awesome fonts and icons. I was wondering if UI theme kitchen is still around and if either phone is rootable and or would be compatible with the theme kitchen. ?? Its been a while but I really hope you can help me find something . both phones are pretty plain and boring .
Hey All,
I am a Redmi 5 user and I am here in XDA to find a way to root my phone and also see that, if there is any possibility that I can upgrade the Android version as mine is stuck at version 8.
Well i like the internet especially for the opportunity to learn from others and share information with people that equaly appreciate the content as much as i do.
Here i gonna admid i am more on the newby side.. I played around with phones in the past. Mostly following up tutorials of people that really understand what they are doing... And this way i can create something with their help that me on my own would be hard to accomplish... We build on each other in different aspects of life and here i am appreciating to receive knowledge of the ones that are really into electronics/software/programming. ..
Its a strange, extremly complex but logic world that i find myself in when dealing with modifiying electronics .
Thanks for sharing this with me
Hi all,
I was in read-only mode for years and now I had to reply to a post.
I've got a Samsung S8, S20 FE, Chinese Android car head unit. I'm interested in Android apps to make my devices more usable, comfortable and so.
Thanks for everyone
Hi there!
I hope I can find all the answer for my question without posting, so I don't bother you
Heya, I am Aaron, joined XDA for useful apps, support and to comment under programs or roms I use, nothing much to know about me
Hi everyone.
Glad to have stumbled upon this wonderful community. Hope to consider myself a developer too very soon taking the wealth of resources here into consideration.
Will put substantial effort in abiding by all rules and regulations.
Thank you and best wishes
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Hi everyone.
Glad to have stumbled upon this wonderful community. Hope to consider myself a developer too very soon taking the wealth of resources here into consideration.
Will put substantial effort in abiding by all rules and regulations.
Thank you and best wishes
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Welcome!
Hi,
I've just joined to find a solution for my update problem for my unlocked Att LG Velvet. I'm also interested in learning more about flashing firmwares, custom ROMs when the time comes.
GaborIvanicsko said:
Hi,
I've just joined to find a solution for my update problem for my unlocked Att LG Velvet. I'm also interested in learning more about flashing firmwares, custom ROMs when the time comes.
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Welcome to XDA!
Have a good read and enjoy!
Hi. I'm a french CS engineer and a Debian addict.
I systematically root all my phones and have a specialization in tuning the iptables to not talk to the GAFAMs. Rooted phones so far : Huawei codenames HAM, NEML51, old samsung phones, a couple of Wiko phones.
I've been following XDA-developers for a decade and decide now to onboard :
* Short-term goal : get some help on a very edge case involving dm-verity and kali nethunter on Nexus5X (bullhead)
* Long-term goal : wait patiently for the day when a full debian phone / ubuntu touch will be available at a relatively low price, and help all along
hi. im just a nobody playing around with his phone 3