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AT&T US 3G Not working on Tilt

I'm in an area that supposedly has 3G coverage (Portland, Oregon). But...
My Tilt has never connected to the 3G network. I've gone to many areas thoughout the metro area, power cycled my phone (to see if it picked up new towers) but I never get 3G connectivity. The "3G" Icon has never displayed on my Tilt.
I've tried different radios which doesn't make a difference.
Suggestions anyone?

Wow, a local!
I have HSDPA almost everywhere in Portland (fastest 3G standard). Even with it not enabled, I have 3G in most of the metro area, including Vancouver where I live.
What icon is displayed?

I'm actually in Hillsboro, but it may as well be Portland.
Usually the "E" icon, and rarely I get the "H" icon.
I'm not sure what the "H" represents. I think its HSDPA, but I assume thats not 3G or as fast as 3G... and if it is then what's the "3G" icon all about?

HSDPA is what you want to see! It's the fastest version of 3G, and the newest available.
E is Edge, its 2G, not as fast but not horrible... Until Edge Evo comes out.
The data coverage maps from ATT are usually pretty bad. It doesnt have to say 3G for it to be 3G. HSDPA is 3G (the best) as well as other variants.
Do you notice a hit in your download speeds?

hmmmm... how confusing. If HSPDA is 3G. What's the point of the "3G" icon?
At my apartment I only get 1 maybe 2 bars of service if I am lucky so that means that while I am home "E" is the best I can get (or expect). But...
When I am out and about I get the "H" icon occasionally. Is there a good way to test my connection speed?

Yeah it's sort of weird... Here's a breakdown.
standards
GSM / UMTS (3GPP) Family
2G
* GSM
* GPRS
* EDGE (EGPRS)
o EDGE Evolution
* HSCSD
3G
* UMTS (3GSM)
* HSPA
o HSDPA
o HSUPA
o HSPA+
* UMTS-TDD
o TD-CDMA
o TD-SCDMA
* FOMA
Pre-4G
* UMTS Revision 8
o LTE
o HSOPA (Super 3G)
cdmaOne / CDMA2000 (3GP)
From - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G
I don't particularly like Wikipedia, but this should help. I'm sure there is a program that will test your connection speed, but you can try something simple like connecting and downloading a cab, lets say Google Maps. Then you can run Google Maps and see how fast you get your satellite image up. There is probably a better way but that should show any big differences.
EDIT: I should add that 3G usually denotes a mix or standards available. It's just a generalization, and the fastest will be chosen by your phone (this is how I understand it)
Also, what ROM and radio are you using?

well in the midwest AT&T was having problems with 3G they dont know why but all of a sudden their networks just failed idk if that is what is causing ur problem but i kept on getting an error saying that the phone couldnt connect to wap.cingular.

Thanks for that breakdown. Gives me a much better perspective.
I've tried a couple of the more popular ROMs. But recently I've been using Q-Mobile 1.2 - It's treated me well. I'm still trying to understand why Dutty's roms are so popular. I can't figure out what makes people flock to his ROM's over the others.
I've also tried out some different radio's. None of them seem to make any improvement (while at my apartment) but currently I am using 1.27.15.32 because I am under the impression that it is the newest radio and therefore should somehow be better.
I'm also unsure if I have the correct data connection settings setup after flashing a ROM. From what I am able to find the only thing I need to do is use "wap.cingular" Then I go into advanced settings and input the OpenDNS servers in for the DNS. Do I need to add any other AT&T specific information after flashing. I've read that there is some sort of proxy information needed as well but its not very clear.
Anywho, what settings for data do you use? What Radio, ROM?

phan10m said:
well in the midwest AT&T was having problems with 3G they dont know why but all of a sudden their networks just failed idk if that is what is causing ur problem but i kept on getting an error saying that the phone couldnt connect to wap.cingular.
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Yeah, I read about that. Aparently AT&T has no clue what happened. And to make matters worse there is more data outages today.
But I'm convinced that my issue is unrelated to all that since I've been experiencing these issues way before the data outages.

I'm glad that helped. I use the Stock HTC ROM 1.56.405.5 with Radio 1.27.12.11 (It's packaged with the radio). It's a legit HTC release, which means very little bugs and it's fast. Flash and hard-reset and you are good to go.
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe
You can find it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331900
Anyways, I've heard good things about the Q-Mobile roms, but I've been so happy with the .11 radio that the HTC stock works great for me. The .11 radio is also packaged in the stock ATT ROM your device shipped with.
When you first boot, it will prompt you to setup data, and for me it gets all the settings automatially and takes about 5 seconds to do it. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure you just use the wap.cingular, but in all honestly I've never had to do it. I also am not sure why people go crazy over Dutty ROMS. It's almost blastphemy to say that on this forum, and I really appreciate his hard work but they arnt for me either. I like real fast,not too flashy and super usable (and stable, of course, why I love HTC stock ROM's)
I just looked now, my access point name is isp.cingular. Never bothered with it before.
I'll check up on this thread tomorrow, hope this helps you out!

Please ignore this.

Interesting... You make a good argument about the stock HTC ROM. I'll have to try that and see if reception and data speeds are any better.
Although my Tilt came with radio 1.27.12.17 - I've only had it for a couple of weeks so they may have put a newer radio on it.
As far as ROM's go, I'm just looking for something that I can use as a baseline. I don't like programs cooked in. I'd rather have a clean ROM and install what I want. But, on the other hand I do like how the cooked roms often contain the latest updates baked right in.
I'm off to flash to the HTC Stock ROM. I'll let you know how that goes.
Thanks for your help, it's nice to have a local to bounce things off of

I don't care for everything cooked in either. The HTC Stock is pretty bare-bones. The only thing I would recommend adding is Nadavi's upadted camera, dumped from Polaris...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355587
And of course the Tilt Keyboard Fix...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911
Also, Youtube and streaming video work out of the box, you don't have to do anything fancy to get GPS working (run GPStest, etc...) and besides that there is not much needed. Any eye candy can be easily added.
BUT, remember to hard-reset after flash! It makes a big difference, at least for me.
Let me know how it goes!

Superspiker said:
I'm actually in Hillsboro, but it may as well be Portland.
Usually the "E" icon, and rarely I get the "H" icon.
I'm not sure what the "H" represents. I think its HSDPA, but I assume thats not 3G or as fast as 3G... and if it is then what's the "3G" icon all about?
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H is faster than standard UMTS, and yes, its HSDPA. You will only see the H while data is being actually sent/received though. When no data is being transferred you will see 3G.
-Jay

Diamond on Rogers 3G Network in Canada

Any one else here using the HTC Diamond on Rogers network here in Canada?
I just purchased my Diamond a few days ago to replace my HTC 3600P. My 3600P connected to Rogers 3G network perfectly fine and I was able to get broadband speeds.
Now, with the Diamond I can only get GPRS (G icon on the phone) and Edge (E icon on the phone).
I am not sure if this had anything to do with it, but unlike the 3600P, when first setting up the Diamond it ask if I wanted the phone to auto detect the network and auto configure the phone. I selected yes.
In the phone settings under network tab, the network selection is set to Automatic. Under the Band tab, both select your network type and select your GSM/UMTS band is set to auto.
is my phone setup correctly, or is it that the Diamond doesn't work with Rogers 3G network only GPRS/EDGE? If this is the case now, could a ROM update fix this?
I really need broadband speeds on my work and am seriously considering returning the phone, as I specially asked the store I purchased it from here in Toronto if it would work on Rogers 3G network like my HTC 3600P and they said yes.

Current Diamond models (EU and Asia) do NOT support North American 3G bands. There was some talk from Rogers that the 900MHz band would be support but for now GPRS is as fast as you will get with your Diamond.

Just to add confirmation to what NikoL has said.
No 3G with the Diamond on Rogers.

Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?

SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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To be honest buddy, it all depends on Rogers if they support that band that your missing. If they arent going to enable it on their network then you will never get 3G on the Diamond that you have now. So its a 50-50 chance they may or may not...probably better off asking them if you ring them. Im sure they will tell you if they have any intentions of enabling that band on their network.
Now if it was me, id return it and wait for the North American version which should be released next month hopefully. But this is me personally...im in the UK and i couldnt live without 3G myself...blazing fast on my nokia n95 8gb which i sold and at the moment im having to make do with GPRS because my nokia 8600 luna only does GPRS.

SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.

citats said:
What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
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I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.

SkankAgent said:
I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.

Spawn12 said:
I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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You are correct about the ROM update. I called HTC Canada and confirmed this with their support department. I guess, I'll be putting my Diamond up for sale on ebay (as my local dealer refuses to take back the phone - last time I'll ever purchase from them, as I specifically asked about it working on Rogerrs prior to purchase) and wait for the North Amercian verision.. or see how the new 3G iphone stands up when it is released here on July 11th.

Introduction and silly question about "H" vs. "3G"

Introduction
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Hi all: first time poster, long-time lurker here. I'm thoroughly impressed with the level of discourse and amount of knowledge and information on these forums and the associated Wiki pages. I'm still a total newb when it comes to SmartPhones in general, but I'm trying to climb the steep learning curve as quickly as I can.
Background: Have 2-week old AT&T Tilt phone with AT&T voice and data coverage. Have experimented with a few different shipped and cooked ROMs, and have settled on the BRR-HTC-2.0 Lite ROM. It's basically a barebones version of the latest HTC Shipped ROM, and I have installed the following programs:
HouMing File Explore Extension
HTC TaskManager
Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
HTC Connection Setup
Microsoft Live Search
Google Search
Opera 9.5 Beta (IE is still default browser, though)
Adlobe Reader LE 2.0
Vicsoft ClearTemp
Cyberon VoiceCommander
HTC QuickGPS
HTC Home
Jblend Java
TCPMP
Skunkworks FlashVideoBundle
Silly Question
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Am I connected "correctly"? With the out-of-the-box AT&T Rom, my connection "bars" had a "3G" on top of them (as long as I was in a 3G zone, of course!), and the data connectivity icon also showed a "3G". Now, both areas show an "H" where a "3G" once was, and although I'm pretty sure everything is fine, there's a naggine though that something isn't right.
I tested my download speed at CNet's Bandwidth Speed Test and got a download speed of 374.9 Kbps. Does this sound about right for the AT&T 3G network? Should I be concerned that something is wrong?
- DDB

It used to say 3G and only H when it was transfering data and shortly after. Now it says H all the time in most areas. It also used to say 3G AT&T for the network name when 3G was available but now it just says AT&T. They must have changed the network somehow.

The "H" icon stands for HSDPA. It is an upgraded standard of the 3G network. Basically, you are using 3G, but your phone is letting you know you are in a service area that supports HSDPA - this is a good thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access

Thanks!
Thank you both for the quick feedback. Sounds like I have nothing to worry about.
I'm also now having issues with connecting to my mail servers, but I'll save that question for another thread.
Thanks again!
DDB

xconradx said:
The "H" icon stands for HSDPA. It is an upgraded standard of the 3G network. Basically, you are using 3G, but your phone is letting you know you are in a service area that supports HSDPA - this is a good thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
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Actually, what I've heard is that H indicates HSPA.. The phone still registers 3G if the area only has HSDPA, but when it also has HSUPA, combined being HSPA, it shows H.
So do speed tests ethered via USB, let us know the results.. Make sure you test downlink and uplink of course.

Test Speeds
When people mention test speeds, how is that accomplished? I have gone to online speed test websites via my tilt, but I continually see "via usb". Is this using the internet sharing and a laptop? Thanks for the help!

XDA diamond - HSDPA connection

Hi all,
I've got the following problem with my XDA Diamond (O2 Germany).
- To establish a connection, first the 3G connection is enabled. After the 3G connection is up, it switches to HSDPA ("H" icon).
- Now everything works fine, no latencies and fine transfer speed.
- After a certain idle time (surfing...), the H disappears again and is exchanged by the 3G.
- When I try to download data again, it switches back to "H".
=> Then, huge latencies occur (up to 1 min. before data are received), the connection speed slows down dramatically or no more data is received at all.
I first thought of issues with my ROM (Bepe 0.99) or my RadioROM (.05). But after flashing to Aztor V7 and RadioROM .08, I'm afraid I have hardware troubles as the problem persists.
Now my questions: Did anybody here have the same problem? If yes, could you fix it? If yes, how? ;-)
Would be nice if you could help me. It would be really annoying to RMA the device...
Thanks for your help in advance!
Regards,
eypostel

That could be because you device disconnected from the net (thus it switched from H to 3G), and it take time for it to reconnect to the net.

Thanks for your hint, but I think this behaviour is not normal...
Even the connection cold start (establishing 3G connection, then switch to HSDPA) is faster and before, the connection was working fine:
When in 3G mode the connection was required, the icon changed to "H" within one second, and the data transfer started immediately.
Now, it takes about ~30 s before the first life sign, and then data reception is not even guaranteed.
Regards,
eypostel

Please look here -> http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=132807

Thx prodigy7, this topic exactly describes my problem...

I have a question regarding this HSDPA idle bug. Turning off HSDPA should bring relief, but my MDA Compact IV does not have the HSDPA-switch. Can anybody have a look in their registry which values are changed when HSDPA is switched off on an XDA or HTC device?
It is easy, simply save a copy of the registry with PHM RegEditor before and after the change. Then compare both files with a file comparison editor (PSPad or TotalCommander for desktop PCs does the job).

This is so ridiculous... I have bought a HSDPA-device (Touch Pro) because I wanted to use HSDPA a lot... and it doesn't work at all... this was my first and last HTC device... I have invested 600€ for a piece of crap.

The Diamond does HSDPA just great, however your service provider must support it. In the UK T-Mobile supports it on their Web 'n' walk Plus and Max services. If you have normal web 'n' walk you can see the H and connect using HSDPA but its throttled.
Nothing to do with the device, just the service provider. It also depends on coverage. For example, when at home I get a H with 2 bars. When driving to work I loose that and get 3G and then eventually just G. Because my provider doesnt have HSDPA coverage where I work.
To turn HSDPA on and off easily use a cooked rom, i use Duttys. Very close to the original and tweaked just a little.

Did you read the german thread linked above? I guess not because what you wrote is wrong.
It is correct that the problem only exists if you use htc devices in the O2-HSDPA-Network. But: the problem only exists with HTC-devices in the O2-network. I am able to use any other (non-HTC) phone that supports HSDPA with the same sim-card successfully in the O2-network. And I am also able to surf using HSDPA with my HSPDA-Surfstick in the O2-HSDPA-Network. This means: the problem is not the network, it is the device (=HTC).

Modopo.com said:
means: the problem is not the network, it is the device (=HTC).
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If it was that simple then none of us would be able to use HSDPA on our TD, but most of us can. I can use it on my TD on Orange in the UK and other networks including O2 when I am roaming in Europe and, for that matter South Africa (not sure about Germany). So the problems probably lies with the interaction between them, rather than solely the "fault" of one or other.

Seriously, sometimes people can be a bit absurd. 3G & HSDPA are standardized communication protocols. This means that there can be little (no?) device-to-device OR network-to-network variation with regards to the integral working of 3G. The context and application might vary and impact performance, though. For instance if a device is not supplying enough power to its 3G chip, signal acquisition might be slow and strength weak.
Modopo.com said:
the problem only exists with HTC-devices in the O2-network.
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I highly doubt the existence of a bug limited to a single network and device brand. By the way the Qualcom chipsets (which incl. the 'radio chip') are not specific to HTC and many companies (incl. Kyocera, Motorola, Sharp, Sanyo, LG and Samsung) feature them. The specific Diamond Qualcomm chipset (MSM720xA) also features in the G1, Xperia, Motorola Atilla & Alexander, LG Incite and MANY others.
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I am able to use any other (non-HTC) phone that supports HSDPA with the same sim-card successfully in the O2-network.
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I seriously doubt that. To prove this, you would need to test EVERY single 3G phone that has ever existed with the network. Which is, quite frankly, impossible.
Like I mentioned earlier (ct. 1st paragraph) context and application might influence performance. Maybe you're just not in an area with sufficient coverage, maybe your specific device has a design flaw or malfunction. Whatever the problem is, I'm pretty damn sure that it's not "HTC-devices don't work on O2".

I use the german o2 internet pack L and I have the same problem. Seems to be an o2 issue.

TerianSilva said:
I use the german o2 internet pack L and I have the same problem. Seems to be an o2 issue.
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That is a much more feasible scenario. Any other O2 users have this problem?

I totally agree with H3x. You say the problem is only HTC devices on O2 so therefore its a device problem. but surely as the problem only exists on O2 its an O2 problem? Every other network in the world seems to be fine. Did you test any other devices with your SIM and network or are you just reading whats on the internet and taking it as true. As we all know, the interwebs is never wrong.
But, your obviously not happy with your diamond so throw it away, go and buy a nokia.

dannyoneill said:
Did you test any other devices with your SIM and network or are you just reading whats on the internet and taking it as true.
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Seems like the HTC-homies in this forum are not willing to read what I wrote before and keep asking the same stuff again and again. I mean, I wrote in the previous linked post all details that you are asking again here...
I'm outta here and will keep at the german forums where people are not constantly trying to convince me that I am stupid...

H3x said:
I highly doubt the existence of a bug limited to a single network and device brand.
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You're right of course. The bug mentioned here is not limited to a single brand nor a single network. But it seems to be limited to specific Qualcomm chipsets. According to numerous reports in German user boards all (?) devices using MSM7501A (HTC Touch Diamond, Touch Pro), MSM7200A (SE Xperia X1) and MSM7201A (HTC Touch HD) have trouble reconnecting from HSDPA-idle in German O2 network. Doing some research on the web I found similar reports from Swiss Orange users.
From my experience as a German O2 user: An idle HSDPA connection switches back from "H" to "3G" after 25 seconds. If you then send a new request, e.g. tapping a link in your browser, the connection indicator of your device changes to "H" again, but most of the time the connection hang up. You have to manually disconnect and reconnect... Switching off HSDPA/HSUPA gives you a stable 3G connect, however limited to basic 3G speed. Another workaround is to frequently ping around, a 10 to 15 second intervall does the job. With pushmail or some IM messenger active it may work, too.
That's my experience with the SE Xperia. And it's definitely not a local network issue nor temporary - I'm using a Palm Treo pro, too, without any problems at all. AFAIK the Palm also is a HTC device running on a Qualcomm chipset, the MSM7201 without an "A".
Regards,
joschi

[Q] vodafone uk 3g issues?

Having slight issues with my note on vodafone Uk, whenever I try to browse the internet and the 3g sign in status bar shows weboages don't load at all, when the H is showing bam they load really fast, and even when the E is showing they load but slowly, which is to be expected with edge. So why wouldn't it be loading when on 3g? Have I got some setting wrong on the phone?

HSDPA is faster than 3G.
3G (3rd Generation of Telecommunication Standards) is a standard of cellular connectivity which allows for speeds of up to 384 Kb/s downstream and 64 Kb/s upstream. 3G HSDPA is a 3G enhancement. HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) is a new mobile data protocol and is sometimes referred to as a 3.5G. Theoretically, HSDPA speeds can reach 3.6 Mbps downstream and 348 Kbps upstream. But the purpose of putting both on a smartphones is to make sure that your phone get internet access even when the other one is not available or have no access

possibly an issue with vodafone, have you contacted them to see if there are any issues?
as for the above post, totally irrelevant and hsdpa wil lgo alot faster than 3.6

Richy99 said:
possibly an issue with vodafone, have you contacted them to see if there are any issues?
as for the above post, totally irrelevant and hsdpa wil lgo alot faster than 3.6
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Yeah they seems to think my sim card needed resetting, but hasn't made a difference, still does it. Hopefully someone has the same issues with a work around searched the net for hours, with not effect. The other weird thing is if its stuck on 3g and not loading I usually disable data on power button menu then er enable and H usually comes back and it works again, even if I turn it to GSM only in network setting, so Edge is only possible it works fine also just takes ages to load any pages which is annoying!

how long you had the sim card? it might be a provisioning issue with it

You think? Well I've had it a few years now like, 3 I think.

Vodafone SIM card works fine in my Note (SIM free from Germany).
I'd suggest try your SIM card with a different phone and try a different SIM card in your Note if possible to see if the fault is with your SIM card or Note.
P.S. Are you using any custom ROM? Could be a problem there.

No I'm on stock rom kka, yeah sure its something today with network or sim card, just rang them to get a new similar. Hopefully that will sort it out.
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Fixed my issue, turns out it was happening a lot with people who have the galaxy s2, needed to enter code *#301279#, and release 5 hspa only, then disable fast dormancy mode on the phone, now I'm getting fast 3g everywhere :-D

It does say 3g and not just g?

if youre in the uk and only getting edge or gprs it may not be the phones fault.
I had a similar issue, we all assume we can get full 3G everywhere, not necessarily.
To solve this you need to buy the Vodafone sure signal box, it basically plugs into your home broadband router and then transmits full 3g around your house to whatever numbers you register on the box, including dongles.
The whole family can use it as you can register 32 numbers into it.
Cost about £50 new, i have a BNIB never been used or taken out of the box new one here, up for sale as it happens for £25.
Anyone interested should PM me....

Or you could just use wifi as you are at home anyway.

As I said sorted the issue it had something to do with the phone locking into search for hspa, and not reverting back to 3g when there wasn't any hspa signal. Apparently its a problem Samsung are working on. But the little fix of only scanning for 3g works for now, and I did a bandwidth test on hepatitis, and 3g, and 3g was actually faster. So not bothered.

Great find bud u should start another thread explaining the steps in a guide cause this is great info for Vodafone UK users
Sent from the HD2's closest replacement, the Samsung Galaxy Note