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Scared to post but I am stuck must take your wrath

Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?

Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.

From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.

I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...

I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.

That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.

Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.

Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?

The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?

Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?

I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?

If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.

Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.

So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.

Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.

xeno1 said:
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?

Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.

I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?

I Think I just Bricked my AT&T Tilt

Uhh......yea......I was trying to upgrade my Rom to Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588. I was using the instructions from Flash-Your-Tilt . I got to Step 4 CID-Unlock it installed 100% rebooted and then nothing. Now the phone will only play the intro with no sound, then go black. It shows in the lower right hand R 1.70.02iNex, G25.65.30, D1.62.00.00. The phone will allow me to do a hard reset but after it it goes through the intro with screen alignment and installs the extra apps, it reboots and then goes black. I did a ton of reading through the wiki's if someone could point me in the right direction or tell me if its toast, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks

Be strong. I think it's only bricked when you can't power it on.
I have a poor net connection and not time atm. So a suggestion if you haven't already, search the forum for the word bricked. I'm sure this has happened before..
There are several tricks that people know so you might be ok. good luck.

Calihoe said:
Uhh......yea......I was trying to upgrade my Rom to Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588. I was using the instructions from Flash-Your-Tilt . I got to Step 4 CID-Unlock it installed 100% rebooted and then nothing. Now the phone will only play the intro with no sound, then go black. It shows in the lower right hand R 1.70.02iNex, G25.65.30, D1.62.00.00. The phone will allow me to do a hard reset but after it it goes through the intro with screen alignment and installs the extra apps, it reboots and then goes black. I did a ton of reading through the wiki's if someone could point me in the right direction or tell me if its toast, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Flash an OEM Rom/Radio Combo. Also it wont hurt if you already CID unlocked to to go ahead and flash a new SPL to it. Should fix any and all issues as your phone is still actually booting and Not bricked

Installing windows the 6.1 ROM from HTC's site worked. Thank you very much for the great advice. If I wanted to now put Dutty's ROM on my phone can I go straight to that, or do I need to restart the whole ROM flashing process(installing Jump SPL, Hard SPL and CID) ?

If you have unlocked it, just put duttys onto the SD card and rename the .nbh to KAISIMG.nbh
Put the phone into bootloader and install Its the fastest most successful method. No worry about a data cable coming out mid flash ( happened once to me....not fun )
Shouldnt have to install hardspl again ( or use JumpSPL )
Just make sure that if you are installing a WM6.0 rom that you have a WM6.0 radio. If not, the flashing process for the radio is the same ( rename to KAISIMG.nbh )

Is there a way to see if I the hard SPL install and CID unlock worked ? Can I just restart the whole process regardless. Sorry for the noob questions.

Calihoe said:
Is there a way to see if I the hard SPL install and CID unlock worked ? Can I just restart the whole process regardless. Sorry for the noob questions.
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Go into bootloader. If your screen says hardspl somewhere near the top then you're good to go. Check which version because you can have radio problems if you use a WM6.0 spl with a WM6.1 rom. Most recent roms are WM6.1 so try HardSPL 3.29 or higher.
If you don't have hardspl, get it here for wm6.0 roms or here for wm6.1 roms.

many thanks, your advice with the links were invaluable. I read and read and read, but i guess i did not read enough. This site rocks.

Returning to Stock for repair! URGENT

Good Morning all,
Hope everyone is well. I realise that I am probably repeating a post somewhere and apologise profusely for that.
However my request is quite urgent. I have my phone flashed with Dutty's 4.1 using the step by step guide to update radio and ROM etc etc.
My touchscreen has now started playing silly buggars and as such tomorrow it gets picked up by UPS UK to disappear off to be looked at. Obviously I do not think they will take it to well if it still has duttys on there
So just so I make sure I get eveything right.... can someone just drop me a link to the correct files for a stock flash back to the way things should be.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
Jody

To add an update, the boot loader screen shows:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.56.OliNex
Micro-Blackstone (LED) v6
Thought this might help in finding out how much work to stock?

I Think u need the original rom... or a htc one from the website?? ... can it not be downloaded from the htc website?? i may be wrong

I do but also need to make sure I do an original spl and radio as well

first off go to htc.com and download the romupgrade thats on that side (ive non is on the side check the wiki for youre countryrom)
then flash that one and se ive radio comes with it
ive not flash radio 13.**.**.**
then from the hard spl thread there a tut how t make youre spl stock again and youre finished

This is the last official ROM with 1.56 spl and 1.13 radio
h..p://rapidshare.com/files/231263089/-HTC_Touch_HD-MR_2009-RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.1_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe

Ok, thanks for all your assistance. Just qiuck one, Once I have done all this how can I check it has all worked. Obviously the boot loader shows the SPL, and the ROM is whatever installed. Where will it display the current radio so I can check that too?

J7ody said:
Ok, thanks for all your assistance. Just qiuck one, Once I have done all this how can I check it has all worked. Obviously the boot loader shows the SPL, and the ROM is whatever installed. Where will it display the current radio so I can check that too?
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At boot it shows, just restart your device and look at the red text in the bottom right corner, there it will show your current radio version.
Could also see it in device info when the device is on but dunno if you still can considering you need to return it.
gl.

Thanks to all help, radio is now reading stock as is the 1.56 spl all installed from latest ROM from HTC so also stock.
UPS collect tomorrow and with any luck they will return a working touchscreen and I can continue where I left off

anyone noticed lots of these requests....? where they flash then the touch screen stops working?
wtf......
I noticed these threads after the 1.17 radio but some users haven't upgraded to that radio and it happend to them.
i'm looking to stay on my rom until something more is found out about this.....

Curious????
imranmaz said:
anyone noticed lots of these requests....? where they flash then the touch screen stops working?
wtf......
I noticed these threads after the 1.17 radio but some users haven't upgraded to that radio and it happend to them.
i'm looking to stay on my rom until something more is found out about this.....
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I also have read a couple of these help requests and the same problem, but what could it be, is it the windows mobile 6.5 builds that are doing this (not blaming the chef's in anyway), or some conflict with the spl... have to investigate this more...

imranmaz said:
anyone noticed lots of these requests....? where they flash then the touch screen stops working?
wtf......
I noticed these threads after the 1.17 radio but some users haven't upgraded to that radio and it happend to them.
i'm looking to stay on my rom until something more is found out about this.....
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I have also noticed the very same, after changing the rom people are having screen problems! Why is that?

Returning to Stock for repair! to having screen problems after changing the rom
J7ody said:
Good Morning all,
Hope everyone is well. I realise that I am probably repeating a post somewhere and apologise profusely for that.
However my request is quite urgent. I have my phone flashed with Dutty's 4.1 using the step by step guide to update radio and ROM etc etc.
My touchscreen has now started playing silly buggars and as such tomorrow it gets picked up by UPS UK to disappear off to be looked at. Obviously I do not think they will take it to well if it still has duttys on there
So just so I make sure I get eveything right.... can someone just drop me a link to the correct files for a stock flash back to the way things should be.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you
Jody
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dataSaMm said:
I have also noticed the very same, after changing the rom people are having screen problems! Why is that?
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Hi, can someone (Admin) change the title of this thread from Returning to Stock for repair! to Having screen problems after changing the rom?
I think the first is solved and now we have this new problem in hand.
best regards

+1
i've had the problem with a cooked french rom (Pyrana V17C). My screen started to freeze for a few seconds. During that time, when I put the finger on the screen and slide, the screen follows the move but it comes back to where it first was, ant the move is finally not taken in consideration ... it looks like the screen is an elastic...
So it did it sometimes and it lasted a few seconds first, and then, a couple af days later, it was more often, and I had to soft reset everytime, and yesterday, I finally had to hard reset to take back the hand, and the bug came back more quickly. So I installed the latest release of this rom this morning and everything seems to be stable since a couple of hour. If it comes back I'll try another rom, but if someone can find a way to set this, that would be perfect ...

J7ody said:
Thanks to all help, radio is now reading stock as is the 1.56 spl all installed from latest ROM from HTC so also stock.
UPS collect tomorrow and with any luck they will return a working touchscreen and I can continue where I left off
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You've found your solution to original query and returned device to stock rom & SPL. Thread has now run its purpose
Thread closed

Potentially Broken T.HD - Need help!

Hi All,
I have used the search function - but ended up getting confused.
I have a Touch HD that I bought in January of this year (2009) from Mobiles.co.uk (Carphone Warehouse) and is on the O2 network (UK).
I have been using Dutty's ROMs (both 6.1 and 6.5) for months now - and have always used USPL when flashing, using the SD card method.
Over the past 3 days, my HD has been playing up.
When it started, I was using Dutty's R7. The radio was 1.14.something.something. The device was working perfectly, and I was really happy with the ROM and the way the phone was working. I had installed NO other applications with the exception of a different taskbar and obviously SDKCerts.cab
First of all, HTC Sense stopped working - it would cycle between "Loading HTC Sense" and "Tap here to launch HTC Sense"
Then, when rebooting the device, it just hung on the "Smart Mobility" screen. I left it in case it just needed a while to boot, but nothing.
I had no other option than to hard reset.
It worked OK for a few hours, but then HTC Sense started to crash again. So I flashed a new ROM - Lost in Asia or whatever it is called.
Same symptoms.
I flashed Dutty's R7 back and also the new 1.17 radio.
No joy.
The phone also hangs for ages on the Smart Mobility screen - perhaps a full minute where as before, it used to be no more than 15 seconds or so.
The following is displayed on the "Smart Mobility Screen"
1.17.25.09
52.69.25.37H
1.59.Dutty
The bootloader screen (before running USPL) shows the following:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.54.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (LED) V6
So the question I'm asking - is... Is my phone suffering some kind of hardware malfunction, or is this a known and fixable fault that I somehow have caused?
If the phone looks like it is malfunctioning, how would I go about returning it to stock so that the CPWH repair centre do not know it's had an unofficial ROM installed?
I'd like to add that whilst I'm very PC literate, I'm no programmer and a lot of the stuff here is alien to me hence my confusion - I just know how to flash a new ROM etc.
Thanks to anyone that takes the time to help me - I'd be really thankful to anyone that helps me sort this - be it tell me how to fix the device, or tells me to take it back!
Thanks in advance & Regards,
Chris.

Will D/L and flash Dutty's R0 Holy Grail ROM and see if that makes a difference...

If you've been using uspl than it will still be the stock spl and thus you could try to load the stock rom from htc.com specially designed for the touch hd(blackstone). I've read and heard from a lot of people that after flashing several roms and even hard resetting afterwards, some bits and pieces stay behind and flashing an original stock rom will undo this. I don't think it's a radio issue. And another big thing if you use dutty R7 that's a 1.56+ rom so you should have the right uspl olinex software to load these roms, if you used older software then problems with colouring and other things will appear.

a1gp said:
If you've been using uspl than it will still be the stock spl and thus you could try to load the stock rom from htc.com specially designed for the touch hd(blackstone). I've read and heard from a lot of people that after flashing several roms and even hard resetting afterwards, some bits and pieces stay behind and flashing an original stock rom will undo this. I don't think it's a radio issue. And another big thing if you use dutty R7 that's a 1.56+ rom so you should have the right uspl olinex software to load these roms, if you used older software then problems with colouring and other things will appear.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
So is it perhaps better to revert to the original ROM before flashing a cooked ROM? I always Hard Reset twice after flashing as understand this helps.
OK - so the 1.56+ situation - I was under the impression that using the latest USPL (2.5) when flashing was OK? I have never had the colour problem... but perhaps if I'm flashing wrong then these problems could be to do with this?
Thanks again...
Chris

The Sense Manila has known bug that you need to press home to load it (sometimes).
For you case, I would suggest you to clean up your SD Card.
there may be several file that cause your system to freeze.
So, format your SD, hard reset.. and cross fingers.

Yes, It is better to revert to the original rom once in a while before flashing a new rom, if u used the latest uspl and the colours are ok, then you've done that right and it will probably be bits and pieces of old flashed roms floating around on the device.
Best to revert to stock rom and hard reset twice.
Afterwards flash the rom u want. If everything works again. U could hspl instead of uspl, hspl is more stable if u ask me. And you can go back to stock spl if you have waranty issues. there's a tut on that to in the rom section.

mcdull said:
The Sense Manila has known bug that you need to press home to load it (sometimes).
For you case, I would suggest you to clean up your SD Card.
there may be several file that cause your system to freeze.
So, format your SD, hard reset.. and cross fingers.
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I forgot to mention - that was one of the things I did. Previously, I had loads of email folders from all the ROM installs.
Now I have a folder containing the useful CAB files that I need, and the ROM image file. Thats it.
It's only a 1gb card as my 8gb card gave up the ghost.
Thanks for the suggestion though and my apologies for not mentioning this in the initial post.
From reading the Dummies guide, am I right in thinking that in order to use a 1.55+ ROM (such as Dutty's Holy Grail R0) I only need to run USPL and then flash (as opposed to flash a newer SPL) as my stock SPL is already 1.54?

a1gp said:
Yes, It is better to revert to the original rom once in a while before flashing a new rom, if u used the latest uspl and the colours are ok, then you've done that right and it will probably be bits and pieces of old flashed roms floating around on the device.
Best to revert to stock rom and hard reset twice.
Afterwards flash the rom u want. If everything works again. U could hspl instead of uspl, hspl is more stable if u ask me. And you can go back to stock spl if you have waranty issues. there's a tut on that to in the rom section.
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Thanks for this - I didnt realise the device would retain bits and bobs, and you may well be right in that things are getting corrupted in there!
Which is the best stock ROM to flash - is there a link to one? I looked on the Wiki and there seem to be loads... which will work on a UK T8282?!
Thanks again!
Chris

constablechris said:
I forgot to mention - that was one of the things I did. Previously, I had loads of email folders from all the ROM installs.
Now I have a folder containing the useful CAB files that I need, and the ROM image file. Thats it.
It's only a 1gb card as my 8gb card gave up the ghost.
Thanks for the suggestion though and my apologies for not mentioning this in the initial post.
From reading the Dummies guide, am I right in thinking that in order to use a 1.55+ ROM (such as Dutty's Holy Grail R0) I only need to run USPL and then flash (as opposed to flash a newer SPL) as my stock SPL is already 1.54?
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what do you mean hang for age?
1 minute is nothing if it turns out boot up.
There are chances that the nand flash needs to refresh and wasted some times. But it won't be forever.

constablechris said:
Thanks for this - I didnt realise the device would retain bits and bobs, and you may well be right in that things are getting corrupted in there!
Which is the best stock ROM to flash - is there a link to one? I looked on the Wiki and there seem to be loads... which will work on a UK T8282?!
Thanks again!
Chris
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there's an original rom on htc.com for blackstone just use that one.
hope it will turn out right for you

I thought I'm the only one who had this problem. Last Sunday my blackstone started to freeze on the smart mobility screen too. I flash 3 different roms because I thought its an rom issue with no luck. On Monday it even managed to hardreset itself after I waited for about 15 min in the smart mobility screen.
After that I flashed a stock rom and it seem to be fine by now.
But now I will flash a custom again, the stock one is so 6.1

flashing question!

hey,
i know this might sound like a stupid question but i am confused...
i tried flashing hardSPL but it wouldn't.
So it just keeps at 0% for more then half an hour. then i just disconnected it.
I have the RHOD300 version and used the GSM version.
What do i do wrong?
i do not need to SIM-unlock before right?
and the CID-unlock is the same as the hardSPL i thought? so why can't i flash?
thanks nick!

Correct, you don't need to SIM-unlock first. Check the troubleshooting section near the start of the sticky HardSPL thread, there are lots of suggestions of things to try there.

np progress
hey
firstly thanks for yozr fast response.
i read the troubleshooting section and everything but i could not find a solution to my problem
i am able to connect the phone and put it in bootloader and then flash it.
everything works as it did on my kaiser when i used to flash it...
so i get the grey screen with the progress bar on top but there is no progress! ive been waiting for half an hour but still no progress.
so i dont know how to go on now...cuz i need hardSPL for flashing all other roms
could someone help me here?
and is there a way to flash it via sd card?
couldnt find the nbh
thanks nick!

You can't flash HardSPL via your SD card, no, sorry. You really need to post up on this in the HardSPL thread though, rather than having a separate thread here.