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Thinking of buying ? Help needed

I am thinking of buying Breeze/MTeor but I wanted to get users opinon on the phone, things that I would like to use:
Pushmail, Naviagation.
Things I wanted to know about was:
1 - Does the phone freeze or hang ?
2 - Is there any problems where you miss alot of phone calls (had this issue on HTC TyTn)
3 - Does it work fast enough, navigating through menu and apps ?
4 - Will I be able to use TomTom ?
5 - If anyone has experience of Pocket PC, what the difference you find with Smartphone version ?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
first you could read the Wiki (Review's) maybe help you too!!
second:
i had an TyTn before the MTeor!
had also many problems with the tytn ... but most of them in wm5 ... with wm6 most is gone...
i had no phone hang yet on mteor! no calls missed ... i didn't expect any problems so far...
speed is very good! (is the only sp with a 300 mhz cpu) !!!
you are able to use tomtom!
once there is an special smartphone tomtom edition you also can use the pocketpc version! there is a programm called PSHelper with that programm you can act with the d-pad like you have a touchscreen (with a mouse coursor!!)
the differences between the ppc and sp are the missing of a touchscreen!! but as you can see on tomtom with pshelper there is also not a big problem!
some apps did not work on sp ... like the game worms... there are some special smartphone versions of apps out!!
for software just look in wiki!!
also theres a bit difference in the today screen but nothing big.. you did not have such plugins like on the ppc ... just browse the web for sbsh facade or look in to wiki i have attached a screenshot in the skin section ... there you can see the agenda software...

Thanks, I did look through the Wiki and the forum before posting.
I cannot find anything about PSHelper searched google too, do you have a link ?
I sold my TyTn and went for a treo 750v which I really do like, but I want to go to a smaller phone but keep alot of the functions, and the MTeor seems to be the perfect solution.
Which version of TomTom are you running, I have version 6 I use on my treo can I use this with PSHelper ?

Hi,
sorry my fault program calls sphelper
http://www.bobsoft.com/sphelper/
i used it with tomtom5 and 6 theres no difference...
simply explained... the programs that are written for ppc waits for input on screen! but you cant do that on a smartphone...
so the mouse cursor does that for you!!
for me the mteor is the best solution... it is a phone with pocketpc funktionalities!!
i have loved my tytn but the size and weight ....
if you want a slideout keyboard i prever you to wait for s730 ? because s710 has the slide out keyboard but the "slow" omap cpus ....

s730 with keyboard starts looking like my TyTn I think I'd be happy with the MTeor and hopefully with the new versions you mentions, should mean the MTeor resale price should be coming down, works for me.

1 - I haven't had any problems with the phone hanging.
2 - I have huge problems, especially when roaming, that the phone looses the connection to the network - even if the signal strength is good. Others have had a better experience.
3 - I find it fast enough.
4 - Only Tomtom mobile 5 will work. Tomtom navigator 6 is only done for PPC.
5 - I will be going the other way soon, getting a 3600 instead. I've never used a PPC yet.

staffann said:
4 - Only Tomtom mobile 5 will work. Tomtom navigator 6 is only done for PPC.
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!!! try to use sphelper, very cool !!!
i have bought my mteor for 320€ new without an provider ... i think thats not so bad... i have payed 500€ for the tytn ... for quite an year...

futureshock said:
!!! try to use sphelper, very cool !!!
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I did some time ago. Cool maybe, but I find the resulting user interface (TT6+sphelper) almost unusable anyway. Maybe I should have written that TT6 doesn't work very well with MTeoR since TT6 is written for PPC and not smartphones. It can be made to work, barely.

Alright at last I won myself a Mteor on ebay, waiting for delivery hopefully Thursday, can't wait
So tomtom5 runs without the need for sp helper, tomtom6 you need sp helper is that right ?
Does it really make it unusable ?, Is sphelper always running? does it slow down the phone at all ?

tomtom6 you need sp helper is that right ?
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yes
TT5 has a smartphone version and pocket version, but TT6 is pocket only. So you need rather additions to run pocket software like TT6
Is sphelper always running? does it slow down the phone at all ?
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you need run it only when you want to use TT6

So should I just use TomTom Mobile 5 which was made for smartphone? (I take it voices is a problem)
Is there any benefit of using TomTom 6 ?

TT6 has much better maps.
Note: TT 5.200 is the lowest version you need.

TomTom 6.030 Needed

Hi,
I searched both TomTom thread and the forum and still could not find the .cab files for 6.030 (I only find 6.032 which is not working with my Kaiser).
Anyone can help me?
Thanks

if you have a TyTN II, use the TomTom that came with your phone on the disc.
if you have a Tilt, use the cab that I posted in my tomtom tilt (working) post. search for it.
if you have one of the other variations, I can't help you

I dont have TomTom on my cd.
I have tried installing 6.0302 and it wont work (need to upgrade ROM notice).
Anyone knows how to fix this problem? I saw couple of post regarding this error but still no resolution.
If I installed 6.030, how can I get my trial map?
Thanks!

you paid for a TyTN II from HTC and you dont have TomTom on the disc that they gave you?
Did you buy this thing used?

kireol said:
you paid for a TyTN II from HTC and you dont have TomTom on the disc that they gave you?
Did you buy this thing used?
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Not necessarily true - for example the MDA Vario III in UK doesn't ship with TomTom on disc either...

geekboyuk said:
Not necessarily true - for example the MDA Vario III in UK doesn't ship with TomTom on disc either...
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And neither does the Tilt. But the Tilt, the Vario III, and the TyTN II are all different phones sold by different companies. And since the OP said that he doesnt have TomTom on the CD that came with the phone, there's a logic assumption that they think they own a TyTN II phone and that phone did in fact come with TomTom on the supplied CD

Orange TNTY II

I have recently purchased an Orange TNTY II which did not come with the Tom Tom Software and would like to know where to buy it from. Have seen that the HTC site has it for £70 but states that it can only be use=d on one particular screen so am a little lost as to where I can get the full european maps from. Can anyone help please

well, I've just got my TyTN II this morning, and haven't installed Tom Tom yet, but had it on my Universal which I bought from www.tomtom.com - it installs through the TomTom home application which you can download to your PC.
hope this helps.

There are, of course, always "other ways" of getting TomTOM
And for your benifit (i.e. when searching), the phone is called "TYTN II" not "TNTY"

Thanks for the help guys and apologies for calling it the TNTY and not the TYTN. I have dyslexic fingers when I type.
Will see what I can find out from various sites.
Cheers and take it easy

TomTom 6 Compatibility

Right here we go folks: TomTom 6. Kasier (MDA III) 6.1 (no thrills ROM).
I installed TomTom onto my first Kaiser (standard ROM) no problems and it worked fine until the unit died. I have a replacment device and have requested a new code from TomTom. They have said that the MDA III is not compatible and pointed me to the list of devices which are compatible. What's on there, yes the MDA III, TyTnII etc. I pointed this out to them and they said it was wrong, the device does not work with TomTom and they wont give me a new code until I provide proof of another device (other than the Kasier)!!
Has anyone else had issues or is it TomTom support being lame as usual?
Thanks.

What a load of rubbish. If TOMTOM do not provide support for the HTC Kaiser/TyTN II/Vario III, then why do most Shops (eXpansys, totalPDA, etc.) sell it with a trial version? I'd tell them to get stuffed and send you the code, they're just being idiots...

Wow! They are being incredibly obtuse. It's their compatibility list, it's hardly your fault that it's 'wrong' and in any case I don't think it is. I think you need to speak to a different support person, somebody that knows their arse from their elbow.

Yep, I think I'll give them a call and get it sorted. Watch this space...

Hi,
In France, i encountered worries with tomtom traffic (nearly lost a week
of "subscription fee") because of Tomtom servers failure(guessed, they never admit clearly any reponsability), and followed a kind of farcical exchanges with their support, but they didnt offer me a real kind /commercial gesture(2-3 days of traffic for a week lost !) and they shown themselves arrogant, obtuse, taking me for an idiot.
Not at all paying careful attention to their...paying customers.
Good luck so !
Regards

This just in from TomTom support:
"I have confirmed again with our PDA Specialist and they have stated that there is a huge difference between the MDA III and the MDA Vario III. Since you have the MDA Vario III we are unable to provide you with another activation code."
Odd how they list the TyTn II as a compatible device.

That's ridiculous. I can understand your frustration! Here's the eXpansys Kaiser page, do a Ctrl+F for TOMTOM and it states under the Technical Details:
• GPS
- Internal GPS antenna
- Standalone GPS abd A-GPS mode
- TomTom Navigator 6 Edition (TomTom 6 Taster Edition)
Have you tried showing TOMTOM Support anything like this (which clearly proves that the Kaiser is supported/compatible)?

Yes I emailed them a link to the £500+ package that expansys do with TT6. Lets see what they say this time!

This is a joke, surely:
"The compatibility of your device has been confirmed from our Technical Support Team who are Specialist in PDA products."
Time to phone them and go beserk I reckon!

It's the kind of situation where you want to laugh and cry at the same time. There's not really much left to do apart from argue the toss with them untill they oblige. Good luck and let us know how it go's.

Another update to the saga. I spoke to TomTom supoprt over the phone who were very helpful and said they wold request a change of device code and get back to me. Just got this back from them:
"Unfortunately it has been confirmed again that the Vario III is not on our compatibility list, therefore you will not be able to run Tom Tom software.
The reason your device code keeps changing is due to the fact that device is incompatible.
We cannot change the device code on your account to reflect an incompatible device."
Anyone want to buy TomTom6??!

Finally I'm getting somewhere! TomTom have said they will reactivate my software, but only if I do not request any further support for the device, and do not ask for another code if its doesnt work.

TomTom Navigator
Hi,
The reason they don't 'support' it or refuse to give out the code, is because every time you change the ROM, one that has a new build, then the TomTom server will think you're trying to use their software on a different device and so on, this is especially the case with the TomTom Plus services. I had this problem with my VPA (HTC TyTN) and they would not re-create the code for my TomTom Plus (Traffic Updates). Luckily I knew the old build, so I searched for cooked ROM's that were using that build.
Regards,

Thats a bummer. Why do they tie the code to software, surely they could base it on the IMEI number as that is fixed and does not change regardless of which software you are running.

RE tomtom device code
HI I had same problem with my activation code when I changed rom have found a crack which gives u the code when u try to start maps it gives you device code and u run this software it gives you the activation code. Does it make sense.
RAJ ( I will post this here if needed pls ask instructions are included takes 2 mins)

I am not sure what everybody is talking about
I have ATT tilt with Dutis ROM loaded
and TomTom 6 is working splendidly except may be for the fact that it takes a minute or so to get the satelite fix
but other then that perfect GPS
I would like to find a better software more user firendly
but since I have the maps for US canada and most of europe I gues tom tom is the GPS of choice for me now

Tomtom traffic services
I think the Tomtom support is the worst i've ever seen. For my Kaiser, I know werre the problem is, but don't know how to solve it. When you launch to the traffic information update, the software sends a PHP request to the server including your login, password and this is the problem a serial number that should be your IMEI, but the application sends a wrong number (the first digit is wrong). If I send the same request with my good IMEI through IE I have a message like "enjoy with your promotion". If you know in what file or registry key Tomtom stores this number I think it will not be so hatd to change it to the correct one and find an access to the traffic server.
HTC TyTn2
SPL 3.56
ROM 3.28.406.0 FRE
Radio 1.71.09.01
Protocole 25.75.40.02 eMo

TT6 on Tilt with official WM 6.1?
I did as much searching as I can handle but could not find a resolution. Tried to install 6.032, get a message saying "Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again."

I have TomTom 6 v 6.010 installed w/o an issue. I currently have the standard AT&T 6.1 ROM. The only issue is that it takes 3 to 4 minutes to acquire a signal. However this seems to be a product of WM 6.1.

Copilot 6 on MDA Vario IV

Hi ,
Has anybody had any trouble or know of any issues when installing Copilot 6 on Wm 6.1 ( in the HTC touch Pro, which T-mobile calls the MDA Vario IV)?
B

alright mate.
i have this with no probs
in fact i love how clear it looks

Thanks for that. I spoke to ALK themselves and they said it could mess up the device. Hence the question.. I shall try today..Cheers

As Mahender says. I do think there is some lag from the GPS (so warnings/alerts are slightly late) but I haven't really done a good test.
VGA display does look good and clear.

alright guys.
i dont use mine with gps as i have the seperate bluetooth thing.
i got this bundle with my old vario2 ( top phone).
i hvanet tried copilot with the phones gps.
so when in the car i use the seperate bluetooth to not slow down the phone.
having said that i do also have google witht he gps on the phone and tbh i think it works pretty cool. i dont reallly see any lag. ( not sure what delay constitutes lag) it does get my position with in 10 metres.
so for car i use copilot and if ever not in car i would use google maps.
mahender.