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What phone would you get or have gotten????
ATT 8525, but they ran out of stock right when i purchased my phone, i begged and haggled with my dad, so i ended up getting the 8925/Tilt
Nokia N95 - 3
HP iPAQ 6xx, ETEN M800 (if it wasn't so ugly and had lacking 64MB ram), Nokia N95 8GB.
NuShrike said:
HP iPAQ 6xx, ETEN M800 (if it wasn't so ugly and had lacking 64MB ram), Nokia N95 8GB.
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ipaq if they ever release it, M800 just kinda meh 64mb ram???, N95 8gb if there was an expansion slot somewhere... I mean, its pretty expensive for something that will ALWAYS be limited to 8gb.
I'm trying to find a quad-band equivalent to the w960i, as the premium we're paying for a QWERTY keyboard is still in the "ridiculous" stage.
And I'd rather keep Exchange Activesync functionality so don't bother mentioning the jesus phone again.
I thought id be able to eliminate my ipaq after i bought the tytnii; however, i still have my ipaq as my tytnii just does not work to replace my ipaq because it such a poor device; in reality, it makes a poor cell phone and a poor ipaq replacemet; it does niether well.
After my experience with the tytnii, my next cell phone will be a regular cell
phone such as the razor and i am just going to keep using my ipaq.
In reality, if hp would just make an ipaq with the 3.5 inch touch screen to work as cell like the htc touch, i would buy as hp makes good products (i always like there ipaq products and always wished they had a phone option available for any model). Was looking at the newer hp cell phones coming out; but they either seem rather bulky due to the full blown keyboard or seem to have a small screen - i like the 3.5" screen models.
I know htc has some models that have a 3.5" screen; but i dont think htc has there act together and i no longer trust buying any smart phone from them; particularly, an expensive one.
i would have kept my sony ericsson p1i
N95 8GB or the N82, but they lack the moddabilt of WM phones which I love
Iphone 3G or one of the new I-Mate series.
I would still have my iPhone.
Is still have my T680.
And ill be $750 richer .
I would still have my hermes and be waiting for the imate 9502 (if it ever comes) or the next gen iphone.
Having gone symbian and palm before I'm not going there again!!
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...I thought id be able to eliminate my ipaq after i bought the tytnii; however, i still have my ipaq as my tytnii just does not work to replace my ipaq because it such a poor device; in reality, it makes a poor cell phone and a poor ipaq replacemet; it does niether well...
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Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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It's just too late...
iphone 3G + TomTom .... or i-mate 9052
Perhaps, we never satisfy with what we have on our hands until we've lost it. Some other devices seem to be better than ours at first, but they might not be what we expected them to be. We always greed for more, to satisfy our thirst. Indeed, our thirst is never satisfied enough.
It's another quiet morning in Washington, DC after the Shocking Tuesday =)
firstbuddha said:
Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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First, let me say i did not send my device back as i thought the software problems would be fixed; however, it is now looking like no software fix is coming given htc response.
I am complaining heavily because i thought the tytnii would replace my ipaq. I thought i would be able to take notes and do other things "while on a call" just like i do with my ipaq (with the use of seperate cell phone). I thought it would be great if this could be boiled down one device.
However, to use the tytnii as an ipaq "during a call" i need speaker phone to work so that i can see and use the screen so i can access and write data on the screen; however, the speaker phone is defective in most tytnii (if not all). i can hear the caller fine; but they cannot hear me or say i am garbled. Sending the phone in for warranty (which provides for repair or replacement of t does nothing the phone) does nothing to resolve the speaker problem as the replacement is also defective. I think this defect relates to sometype faulty softtware or registry setting; however, currently trying to fix this remains elusive.
The defective speaker is the reason i consider the tytnii a poor cell phone. The inability to use the screen during the call is why i consider it a poor ipaq as my ipaq recieves most of its use "during a call". I am not trying to nit pick; only saying that the tytnii cannot perform as an all in one device if you intend to use it "during a call" as the device is fundamentally flawed for this use.
I post this to help others not make the same mistake. If anyone has suggestions on all in one device that will actually also function as an ipaq "during a call" and that has a decent speaker phone i would like to hear. Ever since i have owned an ipaq, i always wished it had a built in cell phone. My "wish list" is that hp would make all of its ipaq models available with a cell phone option - i really like the 3.5" screen models (without the keyboard --- i find the ones with the full blown keybard are a little to bulky). But this is just a wish list.
my speaker phone works flawless.. i have a tilt
You are lucky with regard to having speaker phone that works. What radio rom you have; there is another person in the forum that is returning his tilt for the 5th time today in an attempt to resolve the speaker phone probelm; maybe if his works also; I might be able to exchange/get replacement phone to resolve speaker problem as so far it has been difficult for me to resolve.
N95 and my dusty StowAway keyboard while waiting for the SE P5. I couldn't go back to an 8525 as the Tilt has really spoiled me in terms of speed and, more importantly, stability.
I've installed a few ROMs from this place onto it. I did not SuperCID (just used a HardSPL bypass) it nor SIM Unlock it.
Does this mean that I should be able to undo everything that has been done?
How do I remove HardSPL? Is that possible?
How can I install an original AT&T ROM on it? Where do I find those? I think I found one with Alex's Kitchen, but I'm not sure if that's a full version or what. And what about the AT&T bloat?
Sorry if this is a noob question. I glanced through the Tilt-specific Wiki and the Kaiser Wiki and I didn't see the answer to any of these questions in the FAQs.
see the wiki, there's a howto link for reverting your spl
Oh, awesome. I missed that. I think it was because I was mainly looking through the Tilt-specific Wiki. My mistake.
Here's the thread in case someone else happens accross this one in search of the same advice.
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/335568/
Just install the original AT&T Rom and you should be fine. I had to send mine in for a warranty exchange last Friday after the radio conked out on it, and got my new one on Monday of this week. Anway, I used the HardSPL too, and I just reflashed the AT&T Rom onto it, put it in the box, slapped the return label on it and sent it on it's merry way
Edit-Somebody on here said they don't check the SPL when they get the defective unit, just that it has the AT&T Rom on it. In fact, I bet they just chuck it in the recyling bin and write it off.
Yeah I'm pretty sure they half inspect the phones. They must get more exchanges than they could deal with. They possibly check the device thoroughly though because it's a high end (dollar) device. Who knows?
I worked in the service department at Best Buy for a while, and I know we didn't check anything when customers returned products. All we did was looked at the stickers on the outside of the products to make sure the serial number, model number, etcetera all matched up, and that was it. As long as those matched up, we could send the devices back to their manufacturers or out to our service centers.
I figured AT&T would operate the same way, but from what I've read on these forums, they do a pretty thorough check. I just wanted to make sure I covered all grounds. Better safe than sorry, y'know?
Yeah, that's true. The guy at the store looked my phone over, and even changed SIM's and agreed something was wrong with the phone's radio, so that's in the notes too.
I found the post I was talking about, it's the first on on the page-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568&page=23
"Just FYI; I recently returned my 8525 to ATT because it was not charging with the car charger.
I flashed back to the latest ATT ROM and then did a second hard reset. I heard last week from ATT the phone was accepted as a core with no problem.
I was told by a friend at ATT that they don't look at CID, but different splash screens will for sure trip up a return.
Just my experience; hope it helps someone."
Warranty issue?
The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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Just call AT$T, they will check your account to see if you are within warranty. If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) It usually arrives within five days. It comes with a pre paid return envelope. Take the battery and sim and back cover off the old phone, put them in the new phone. Drop the old one in the envelope. Drop it in the post and you are all set.
If you fail to send the old one back within the time allotted they will bill your account of the full value of the replacement phone. Quick and easy, my replacement phone is over a year old and has worked flawlessly.
My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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Unless of course it is a battery issue, and they put in a new battery, see that you have used unapproved software and mark your S/N as immediately out of warranty,.....................I'm just sayin................................
You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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Do you think they stay in business by by just mailing a new phone to anyone who says, " this is broken, give me anew fuze ?'
I just exchanged my tilt today. My screen broke (the colors became all white and inversed and weird) so I called ATT and they told me to go to this special service warranty store. They looked it over quickly and gave me a new tilt no problem... just make sure you flash the original ATT rom back on it. (They didnt notice I broke the VOID sticker in the screwhole hehe)
PS. I got my tilt last April, and I'm not sure how long the warranty lasts. The guy said I have 90 extra days on this new phone.
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<snip> If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) </snip>
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Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
d_stew said:
Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
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Basically , you can have a brand new Fuze the way AT$T and M$ want it, or you can have a Tilt the way you want it. At present there are three times as many custom roms, more ways to customize it and I absolutely will not give up my Tilt screen. After a year of customizing my Tilt to perfection on this site, there is absolutely nothing about the Fuze that interests me.
I'm thinking about sending my Tilt back. It's bricked for some reason. I bought a new (OEM) battery because I thought I had battery problems, still nothing. If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
denco7 I agree entirely with your comments re the importance of a tilting screen but now HTC have developed the Touch Pro 2 (which has a tilting screen) there may soon be a real successor for the Kaiser released to the market. I don't know which providers will pick it up or where it'll be sold though.
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
Does the same thing apply if it's not under warranty but has insurance from at&t on it?
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hey was just wondering, is there an ATT tilt with outter screen camera? or all of them come with only 1 cam, because i just realised that the att one doesnt, buy maybe there is a diff version of it, because i have the HTC one, and it has it, but i was thinking of selling the HTC and buying the ATT Tilt instead in order to insure it, but idk, because now im debating if i should, because i just want something i can insure, and the HTC i got, got a few scratches on it
none of the tilts come with a front camera.
Your lack of grammar and appreciation of the English languages gives me a headache.
crap so i cant insure it with ATT huh? or will they still insure it due to the fact that im ussing it with their service?
Well with ATT its not really insurance. If you get a few scratches on the tilt like u did with ur tytnII, ATT's not gonna replace it. Im pretty sure the warrenty only covers the manufacturers problems. So if the accident was your fault, ATTs not going to cover it.
ye but if those few minor scratches are reported to ATT as a phone problem rather then a cosmetic problem....lol
which phone is better tho, the HTC Kaiser or the ATT Tilt?
essentially they are the same except for the front camera. i would just keep the kaiser and get a good case for it.
ye true :-/ but where can i get a new housing for it at least?
Head over to the Accessories section of the Kaiser forums and I'm sure you'll find something that will suit your needs.
http://cnn.cn/shop/p4550-tytn-kaiser-c-277_447.html
i think its currently out of stock. but you can contact them for when theyre gonna get more instock
My phone connects when I get a call but no voice on either end. The only way to get out of this is to reset my phone. Had to do it so much that Ive called in for an exchange under warranty.
They told me it will be a refurb since that is the only thing they can do. I even tried the Kit box with the battery (which they are replacing since my battery is not holding charge) but they are sending it seperately.
My question is for the exchange, is the refurb any good and did it solve your problems?
Is there anyway I can get them to give me a new phone since mine is less than 6 months old.
I did an exchange because one of the keys on the keyboard was going out. The refurb they sent me had the same problem but worse, so I sent it back for another refurb and I'm happy with that one. Somebody once said that after 3 refurb exchanges they'll send you a new one, but I don't work for AT&T so I can't verify if that's correct.
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I did an exchange because one of the keys on the keyboard was going out. The refurb they sent me had the same problem but worse, so I sent it back for another refurb and I'm happy with that one. Somebody once said that after 3 refurb exchanges they'll send you a new one, but I don't work for AT&T so I can't verify if that's correct.
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Uh huh das right
I did a warranty exchange on my tilt because the miniUsb port cracked. The device they gave me was like new, i actually thought it was new, till about a week later i decided to call and check and they told me most likely its a refurb... honestly i can't tell if it is or if its new.
ALso about your issue, did you recently upgrade to a 6.1 rom and not change the radio? that would cause no sound..
double post :/
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I did a warranty exchange on my tilt because the miniUsb port cracked. The device they gave me was like new, i actually thought it was new, till about a week later i decided to call and check and they told me most likely its a refurb... honestly i can't tell if it is or if its new.
ALso about your issue, did you recently upgrade to a 6.1 rom and not change the radio? that would cause no sound..
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thanks for the info. I did upgrade to 6.1 via HTC website that I think also updated my radio. I currently have radio #1.65.21.18
Could this be my problem?
that is a wm 6.1 radio, but still, some radios don't work well with some roms, check AllTheWay's Ultimate Radio Thread for more info.
I love peoples reasoning for not deserving a refurb. I've worked at places like Dell and Acer and I just love when people argue. "it was new when I bought it"
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I love peoples reasoning for not deserving a refurb. I've worked at places like Dell and Acer and I just love when people argue. "it was new when I bought it"
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As someone who has been on the receiving end of several Dell computers, you are correct that this argument doesn't hold water since Dell takes pride in the full reconditioning of it's refurbished units.
However, as someone who needed to exchange 4 Tilts within 2 weeks due to the total lack of quality control on [insert random 3rd party company here]'s part, I understand why some people are hesitant to accept a refurb phone.
When I finally had enough of dealing with the warranty group and called business customer care, the woman on the phone transferred me to someone back in Warranty who told me that AT&T doesn't even handle the refurb business, and the entire process (including QC and shipping) is done by a 3rd party company.
Yes you can be very unlucky with refurbs but the same applies with brand new phones too.
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that is a wm 6.1 radio, but still, some radios don't work well with some roms, check AllTheWay's Ultimate Radio Thread for more info.
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are u saying that there is a better radio for the stock 6.1 rom than what it comes with?
could this be my issue on the new sound?
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As someone who has been on the receiving end of several Dell computers, you are correct that this argument doesn't hold water since Dell takes pride in the full reconditioning of it's refurbished units.
However, as someone who needed to exchange 4 Tilts within 2 weeks due to the total lack of quality control on [insert random 3rd party company here]'s part, I understand why some people are hesitant to accept a refurb phone.
When I finally had enough of dealing with the warranty group and called business customer care, the woman on the phone transferred me to someone back in Warranty who told me that AT&T doesn't even handle the refurb business, and the entire process (including QC and shipping) is done by a 3rd party company.
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That lady flat out lied to ya, I have personally been in the ATT department were they recondition MOST devices. And yes tilt's are done there as well, to a certain extent, they clean them and replace screens, keypads, basic stuff. I cant even begin to explain the morons working there, my 7yr old could do a better job and he would have fun doing it.
Greetings
I just bought a TyTN II from ebay.. I thought it would be a nice addition to my ever so small collection of PDA's, and it was relatively cheap.
Here's the link (remove spaces):
ht tp://c gi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260569169356#ht_3409wt_1276
Now, the seller claims it to be 100% oem, but I'm not completely sure.. In case it's a knockoff, I'll use Paypal to get my refund
So my question is, what do you guys think? is this the real deal, or just another fake TyTN II? I've heard about the knockoffs, but I havn't seen anyone.
You call that cheap? That's the real deal though.
yeah well, it's about 1/4 of retail price back in the days it's not too bad for nice little gadget like that
the auction doesn't display any photos of the actual phone, but I'm pretty confident that it's a legit OEM phone by the description, price and the claims made by the seller that it's "100% brand new & genuine or money return", even though it ships from HONG KONG
Anyway, what would a knockoff be like? and what's the price for one of those? What would one look for, in order to spot the knockoffs?
Cheers
Sorry for bumping this thread, but can anyone else confirm this is the real deal, so I can have some peace of mind?
Show us some real picks of it and we will tell you 100%
We know about this phone not the knock off's. If it doesn't look like the one in the pics then it's not what it says it is. It's a 3 year old phone, I wouldn't worry so much about knock off's.
Well, that would be like getting a picture from e.g t-mobile of the specific device you're gonna order. The seller is a powerseller with several (10+ in description) htc tytn II's.. When I ask him he keeps reassuring me that the phone is as described with official specs and pics from HTC and that it's 100 % brand new & genuine.
Would you feel good about this, or would you prepare for a full refund?
Well, I just got my Kaiser Eventhough it's a KAIS100, it has a front camera in addition to the rear-facing one. HTC could confirm it was the real deal, but... i think about the ONLY thing OEM in the package was the phone.... There were 3 chargers in the package (none of which fit !!!!) and i'm not too sure about the battery which said DynaPack on the outer side, and had å chrome-like inner side.
and btw, the battery is behaving weird. the phone takes a very long time to charge. lets say i have 50% battery, and i start charging for 30 min, and i end up with 55% battery.. then i reset my phone, and upon boot i all of a sudden have 82% (for instance)... i don't know if it's just old, or fake..
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Well, I just got my Kaiser Eventhough it's a KAIS100, it has a front camera in addition to the rear-facing one. HTC could confirm it was the real deal, but... i think about the ONLY thing OEM in the package was the phone.... There were 3 chargers in the package (none of which fit !!!!) and i'm not too sure about the battery which said DynaPack on the outer side, and had å chrome-like inner side.
and btw, the battery is behaving weird. the phone takes a very long time to charge. lets say i have 50% battery, and i start charging for 30 min, and i end up with 55% battery.. then i reset my phone, and upon boot i all of a sudden have 82% (for instance)... i don't know if it's just old, or fake..
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I have had three batteries so far for my Kaiser. One was the " chrome type " back, that was the original and the other two were cheap replacement batteries that were all black except for the terminals. They all worked the same.
I would just buy a new battery , seeing as the phone is new to you. Might as well start out with a new battery too.. If HTC ran the serial number and says the phone is legit, I wouldn't worry about wether it is real or not.
DENNCCOOOO
What he said.
Well, it seems its actually a modified AT&T Tilt with a added front camera. Void seals were broken, I think both front and backcover is fake, and the voicedialbutton doesn't show a image of a "speech bubble" but PTT (which seems to be used on AT&T phones)
An ATT Tilt is still a Kaiser..
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An ATT Tilt is still a Kaiser..
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Ok, a Kaiser has a front camera, does the Tilt?
That's pretty strange, they replaced everything but the insides? The Keyboard isn't from a tilt (as far as I could tell).
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Ok, a Kaiser has a front camera, does the Tilt?
That's pretty strange, they replaced everything but the insides? The Keyboard isn't from a tilt (as far as I could tell).
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Yeah, very strange indeed. It seems as they took a tilt, put on a front camera, changed the housing and keyboard (it's not even a wwe keyboard - it has some chinese letters and other layout on the Fn-keys) and hspl'ed the phone with the first OliP0f hspl.... Either way, after confronting the seller, he did admit that it wasn't a unlocked HTC TyTN II, because they got the best prices on these phones from carriers... He also proposed to give me a 70 USD refund, and a HTC bluetooth headset as a compensation, after i expressed my dissapointment with the phone.
Well, i'm still not sure if the battery is OEM, and also if the housing and keyboard is OEM, but i guess i'll never know for sure