Recently I had to hard reset my phone.. so I thought since I'm hard resetting anyways, why not try a new ROM..
So I installed the new ROM and Blackberry connect doesn't seem to work.. so I had a sprite backup when I had my old ROM.. but now I have a different ROM.. will it be okay if I restored my backup with my old ROM? or is that a bad idea?
sorry this was posted in another section and no one seems to be replying.. maybe I posted in the wrong section? I don't know.. but I didn't get any response and I need urgent help.. because I don't know how many important emails I'm missing now..
DVS_WiNdz said:
Recently I had to hard reset my phone.. so I thought since I'm hard resetting anyways, why not try a new ROM..
So I installed the new ROM and Blackberry connect doesn't seem to work.. so I had a sprite backup when I had my old ROM.. but now I have a different ROM.. will it be okay if I restored my backup with my old ROM? or is that a bad idea?
sorry this was posted in another section and no one seems to be replying.. maybe I posted in the wrong section? I don't know.. but I didn't get any response and I need urgent help.. because I don't know how many important emails I'm missing now..
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Never restore a full backup from one rom to another. Only restore a full backup to the same rom (and same version even). The reason for this is your full backup will put the registry entries from the old rom onto the new one. Well most likely that won't match up (ie: WM6 entries in places are different than WM6.1 entries. And fixes made in a Dutty's rom aren't the same as in Confused Stu's or someone elses since each are different etc).
Okay, thanks a lot! that was a fast response.
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Hi guys.. I keep reading your beautiful forum everyday, learning some...
As TheLastOne says, one must do a fresh install after a new ROM upgrading, avoiding the backup to overwrite some file of the old Rom.
My question is... is there a way to restore programs anddevice settings (like buttons config,rings,passwords,network settings etc) withouth making conflicts? I was thinking about a backup software that only saves custom elements.. do anybody know a way to do it? Thanks a lot. :?:
PS I read the post from Happygoat about CABs...is very tricky for me...I hope ther is a easyer solution!!!
There are two programs out there that make decent backups...
1. Sprite Software
2. SunnySoft Backup Manager
Both can be customized to only backup personal data, such as phone number database, etc.
To backup settings, the only way is to make your own cab.
What you do not want to do, is to backup everything, including the registry, and restore it after a ROM upgrade...!
These backups are nice to have if your ROMs stay the same...but if you upgrade/change ROMs, and restore such a backup, your PDA could become unstable. This has to do with the fact that the ROM update uses its resources and registry different, and writes programmes differently.
Hope that clears up things for you.
Thank for clear and fast reply @ HappyGoat..
So I will wait for a definitive "guide" from you about registry and settings CAB saving and try out the softwares u mencioned..by the way those sw save and restore also programs relative registration passwords?
I have made a full backup file on my storage card of my registry with PMH, now I think to do the follow:
1) backup all programs and data with Sprite software on sd card
2) upgrade to new rom and hard reset the device
3) reinstall PMH and restore registry
4) reinstall Sprite and restore programs and data
5) ... it will be ok ? I hope so because I really don't understand how to follow step 2 from HappyGoat guide
Thanks for pacience.. (TheLastOne...can you give an opinion..?)
Vicer,
Check this below link from Sprite Software for your Sprite backup.
http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/answer.aspx?id=66&back=browse.aspx#p24
I can confirm that you can successfully backup after a ROM upgrade and you wont lose any new ROM functionality after restore. I have tried this with various ROM upgrade and it works. Follow the instructions and every thing will be fine. However one thing you should note that when you restore from the old rom and if the program get stuck at one point, then dont feel afraid just soft reset and restore again. Remember that if your restore is finished with out any warnings it means that it is restored perfectly.
I hope this helps and if you need any information then please let me know.
Hemant.
Thanks a lot Hemant..I will try soon!!!
Thanks Hemant, I've been looking for this answer for a long time!
Backing up the rom because of garanty. How to?
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Anyone?
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tambeng said:
pena_leve said:
My question is: how to backup the entire rom, when we got the device for the first time?
Cause, if the device gets with a problem, and went to the "doctor", the garanty is made (at least where i live), by the original rom.
Someone can help me out?
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Unfortunately I had many problems after the restore with Sprite...I reinstalled all from scratch and now is all ok (unless I downgraded radio to 1.10 that is more stable in my opinion) Ref your question... I'm not an expert but I read the wiki everyday...and:
1) follow the getdevicedata procedure to know your original SHIP rom.
2) find on the xda ftp site the one that mactch exactely with your data
3) you dont need more to dump your Rom!! anyway on the forum you can search for "dump rom on sd card" to find the answer to your original question. Hope this helped..byez
I'm not using the original HTC rom.. if I backup with sprite and do a hard reset.. will I be able to restore using the backup I made?
I heard it will cause problems, if I restore. Is this true?
Yes, you can restore as long as it's back to the same ROM. However, if you made a BU just prior to HR, you could introduce the same problems back to your machine that you're trying to correct. If you have a BU when your device was clean, I'd use that instead.
Delta_flyer said:
Yes, you can restore as long as it's back to the same ROM. However, if you made a BU just prior to HR, you could introduce the same problems back to your machine that you're trying to correct. If you have a BU when your device was clean, I'd use that instead.
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hmm... so are you saying after I hard reset, I should install the ROM I am using now then restore?
I don't have any previous backups
When you hard reset, all you're doing is setting everything back to factory defaults. The ROM you currently have in your device will be the same one after HR. The problem with Sprite BU or any other BU program is,,,it backs up junk too. It's good to make a BU of your device when it's really working well, that way you'll have a known good place to start from. I recently went thru this. After HR, I restored using a BU I created just before HR, the problems I tried to cure with the HR returned after restoring. I ended up rebuilding from scratch.
Delta_flyer said:
When you hard reset, all you're doing is setting everything back to factory defaults. The ROM you currently have in your device will be the same one after HR. The problem with Sprite BU or any other BU program is,,,it backs up junk too. It's good to make a BU of your device when it's really working well, that way you'll have a known good place to start from. I recently went thru this. After HR, I restored using a BU I created just before HR, the problems I tried to cure with the HR returned after restoring. I ended up rebuilding from scratch.
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I just wanted to know if the hard reset will fix the usb problem I have now.. so if it doesn't I'd rather be in the state I have now.. so.. basically I'm just using this as a test.
Yes it will backup everything.
DVS_WiNdz said:
I just wanted to know if the hard reset will fix the usb problem I have now.. so if it doesn't I'd rather be in the state I have now.. so.. basically I'm just using this as a test.
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I use Sprite BU when I test out a new ROM. Since I do this frequently and I need my phone for work, I also needed a way to restore my phone to the last good working condition quickly and reliably.
Sprite was my choice because it was already on my first AT&T ROM. Since then I spent the cash and bought the full version. I find it to be snappier when restoring, but that probably has to more to do with the filesystem than anything else.
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When you hard reset, all you're doing is setting everything back to factory defaults. The ROM you currently have in your device will be the same one after HR. The problem with Sprite BU or any other BU program is,,,it backs up junk too. It's good to make a BU of your device when it's really working well, that way you'll have a known good place to start from. I recently went thru this. After HR, I restored using a BU I created just before HR, the problems I tried to cure with the HR returned after restoring. I ended up rebuilding from scratch.
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hmm..
say I have Dutty's ROM now.. and I do a hard reset.. I will still have Dutty's ROM after the hard reset?
DVS_WiNdz said:
hmm..
say I have Dutty's ROM now.. and I do a hard reset.. I will still have Dutty's ROM after the hard reset?
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Yes, it doesn't change anything rom wise.
What I'm wondering is how to backup and restore wifi password and settings / email acct's after updating the rom..this is the biggest thing for me.
gman8966 said:
Yes, it doesn't change anything rom wise.
What I'm wondering is how to backup and restore wifi password and settings / email acct's after updating the rom..this is the biggest thing for me.
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Whenever I restore from a BU, it re-establishes my passwords, at least in BBC. I didn't test my wifi connections before I rebuilt my device last.
Hi,
I'm also on the way to flash the ROM, but I've been putting it off for some time now because of data backup. I do not worry about contacts (Outlook sync), but I would REALLY like to be sure I will not have to reinstall TomTom and NavmanST navigation software together with all the settings (user POI I added myself), sms, MMS etc.
If I understand correctly, doing a backup (Spb, Sprite etc.) before flashing will do me no good, so is there really no way to keep (some of) the installed software in some way?
Any help appreciated...
If I were you I would run two backups; one before and one after the update. And use more than just one backup software, if possible.
BusterTyTN
Hi,
first at all... THANKS TO EVERYONE!!! ... I've reading everything during a few days, because I didn't receive correctly the calls... I finally I got to update the rom; now I have to check if I've chosen the right one.
The question is: I made a backup of everything when it was wm 6.0, can I restore it after upgrading, knowing it is a different rom, and the wm version is the 6.1????
Thanks again!!!
No,
Don't do it, you'll have to hard reset because there are too many differences between the Roms (even when changing between WM6 Roms).
I would only restore when going back to the original ROM that I backed up.
thanks guys!
it is great to find people who have fronted already the same problems
then I'll just try to create a few direct accesses to the programs I installed in the sd.
Thanks
I have a tilt with the built-in spirit backup. I tried to use it but when I did the restore after updating the rom, alot of the programs wasn't restored properly or registry info was changed back to befault. I thought Spirit was supposed to restore everything after a hardrest or a rom upgrade? Did I do it wrong or something? Because of this, my computers all want to resync all the contacts and everything all over again, which is a pain as it takes hours to resync(thats another issue, but not related to this)
Hard-reset. Yes.
Rom upgrade. No.
And the built-in sprite backup was a trial. Did you buy it? If not you're screwed. Sorry man.
Sprite is retarded in a lot of ways. You should start using PIMBackup and -UC-.
Kraize
I used the one that came with the Tilt. Ok, so what I seen already, I got screwed. What program is good to do a complete backup, where I won't need to resync(where it thinks its a whole new phone) with my activesync after the restore?
starstreak said:
I used the one that came with the Tilt. Ok, so what I seen already, I got screwed. What program is good to do a complete backup, where I won't need to resync(where it thinks its a whole new phone) with my activesync after the restore?
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The full version of Sprite is by far the best backup utility out there. SPB Back Up would come in a close second.
Sprite (full version) has an option for retoring to an "upgraded" rom. But my opinion is, if I change the rom all together (not just a hard reset) I am manually loading all my programs.
Test both extensively before purchase.
spirit backup says i don't have enough memory on my card but i have almost a gig empty. this just started. please help
by the way, this happens when i try to backup . thanks
I've searched at the forum but couldn't find a good answerd for my question.
I got a Vodafone NL X1 it's currently on the Vodafone R2 release but i want to change it to the generic release(hate the vodafone crap). So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
Hope someone can help me
thanks in advanced,
killer8nl said:
So my question is do I need hard spl to flash another official rom to my X1. I know that you need hard spl to flash a cooked rom but is flashing another official rom the same case?
And another question, i've read on websites that spb backup can restore a backup after a rom update. Does anyone have experience with that and is there a big change that i will have problems with that? And if I use this when I flash the generic rom instead of the vodafone one to my phone does it also restore all vodafone crap?
thanks in advanced,
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My 2c worth:
a) official ROM's have SPL in them, so you don't need hardSPL to flash these
b) regarding "restore after ROM change", in reverse order:
if you restore a full backup from your existing installation after a ROM change, it will obviously restore all that is currently there - including the Vodaphone fluff
both Spb and Sprite offer "full restore after ROM change" options - however, registry changes from one ROM to the next make this risky. Most cooks will advise against it
Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update
SPB restore can let you choose what to restore, the necessary things will be contacts, sms, email and documents, you can skip the programs, registry and other non personal things, but like this you will need to reinstall all programs and configure them from scratch
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Oke thank you for the answerd, will do a fresh install then after the rom update
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Yes, that's the technically correct way.
After you've upgraded the ROM and re-installed all your apps, (say) weekly Spb or Sprite backups for a full restore are obviously viable. I've been doing this for about 5 years now - saved my bacon more than once.
Still, I agree that re-installing all the apps after a ROM upgrade is a real pain in the butt. People who change ROM's constantly must have another day phone on the side
I tried to update the generic NL R2A rom from my vodafone NL R2A phone but it doesn't work. It keep saying "No image file!".
I also got another question. Is it really necessairy to format my ms before flashing. Because I only got the hancock ms and it said not to be working again when I format the ms. Thats why I didn't format the ms yet and only tried without formatting.
I have read almost all tutorials but all said I must use the hard-spl but other forums posts said I don't need when using a official rom. Anyone can help me a bit further please?
Regards,