at&t tilt GPS newbie question - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

i've just ordered an at&t tilt. i've searched on this forum for gps and tom tom and didnt get anything and so is this post.
will i be able to use the tilt as a gps unit without signing up for the data plan from at&t?
does kaiser have gps hardware built it or is it an addon?
if it does have a gps hardware is built in, what software can i use to use the phone as a gps unit. if there is a thread or post where i can read more, please let me know.
TIA

htcimposter said:
i've just ordered an at&t tilt. i've searched on this forum for gps and tom tom and didnt get anything and so is this post.
will i be able to use the tilt as a gps unit without signing up for the data plan from at&t?
does kaiser have gps hardware built it or is it an addon?
if it does have a gps hardware is built in, what software can i use to use the phone as a gps unit. if there is a thread or post where i can read more, please let me know.
TIA
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I have no clue how you searched but there are gazillions of threads out there for GPS. Please search again. Just to be nice to you: yes, Tilt/Kaiser does have a built-in hardware for GPS and all you need to do is buy a standalone software such as Tomtom, iGo, etc. With standalone, you don't need to pay for the internet unless you want traffic information.

The kaiser has built in GPS Hardware. Virtually any GPS Software will work with the kaiser. To try it out, GoogleMaps has a built in GPS tool but it needs to download the maps as it goes. TomTom or similar have the maps stored locally which has a lower running cost but costs quite alot initially.

yes it has a built in gps... and you can use Garmin Mobile XT and there a lot of programs..

It works well with iGuidance with the onboard GPS and I don't have a data plan...

htcimposter said:
i've just ordered an at&t tilt. i've searched on this forum for gps and tom tom and didnt get anything and so is this post.
will i be able to use the tilt as a gps unit without signing up for the data plan from at&t?
does kaiser have gps hardware built it or is it an addon?
if it does have a gps hardware is built in, what software can i use to use the phone as a gps unit. if there is a thread or post where i can read more, please let me know.
TIA
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I see were this is going, i have advice for you. Just go to walmart and buy a gps navagation system, save yourself and all of us some time since you cant understand the concept of "google search" and "read the wiki"

sherpa said:
I have no clue how you searched but there are gazillions of threads out there for GPS. Please search again. Just to be nice to you: yes, Tilt/Kaiser does have a built-in hardware for GPS and all you need to do is buy a standalone software such as Tomtom, iGo, etc. With standalone, you don't need to pay for the internet unless you want traffic information.
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thanks for the info and for being nice. really appreciate all ur help.

word of advice for the day:
If the title of your post includes the words "Newbie Question" odds are there is a thread lurking around this forum somewhere for your question.

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TURN BY TURN directions

I am looking for some program for my Tilt that will have voice turn by turn directions, or just turn by turn directions. I have live and Google maps and all that basic stuff but is there anything more advanced like Tom tom or Garmin are, or does anyone have those 2 programs?
Thanks I am new to the forum, but I had a friend completely re due my new tilt the other day, and I am interested to do some work to it myself. Great site GUYS!!!!
FML5003 said:
I am looking for some program for my Tilt that will have voice turn by turn directions, or just turn by turn directions. I have live and Google maps and all that basic stuff but is there anything more advanced like Tom tom or Garmin are, or does anyone have those 2 programs?
Thanks I am new to the forum, but I had a friend completely re due my new tilt the other day, and I am interested to do some work to it myself. Great site GUYS!!!!
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Welcome, Be sure to get very familiar with the search function. Just about everything has already been covered in this great forum.
This is almost as identical as this thread here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390773
tomtom does work on tilt but u have to buy it ... there r some cooked roms that have it but require you to supply your own maps.
since u are a new user i would highly recommend that u read the kaiser wiki and the stickies in the kaiser forums. they will help u greatly and give u alot of insight related to ur device.
welcome abroad.
So there is no free program out there that has turn by turn?
not that i have come across.. but than again i really never looked for one. try searching google for one or search through the forums.
peace,
sire
Thanks Guys
You would think this is something that everyone would want on such a smart phone????
FML5003 said:
Thanks Guys
You would think this is something that everyone would want on such a smart phone????
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Lots of us want it - lots of us have it. We did a search and found it. You will be surprised at how many options there are up here.
Check it out.
Bill
Nav4all
www.nav4all.com
Free and has turn-by-turn directions plus a lot of other stuff.
Wilhelm said:
Nav4all
www.nav4all.com
Free and has turn-by-turn directions plus a lot of other stuff.
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11. In areas where my mobile phone does not work....?
No problem; the system will keep guiding you, as long as you started before you entered the telephone vacuum. You only need a telephone connection of a few seconds before the start of the vacuum.....
That kinda kills it for me, I am often in areas with no cell service.
californiarailroader said:
11. In areas where my mobile phone does not work....?
No problem; the system will keep guiding you, as long as you started before you entered the telephone vacuum. You only need a telephone connection of a few seconds before the start of the vacuum.....
That kinda kills it for me, I am often in areas with no cell service.
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I see from their site you have to connect to their service to Calculate your route. And needs to recalculate if you change. TomTom for PDA does this all automatically on the phone. The one benefit, apparently, over TomTom Nav4All has is, more maps. Even though you can buy North America, Europe, etc. maps for TomTom

Gps...software?

This is probably a stupid question but I bought a kaiser last week but I dont know how to activate the gps, I found a program called quickgps to update it but thats about it.
Do I need 3g to use GPS? (I am on vacations here in the US, I would love to use the GPS, but I have no phone service)
Do I have to buy some type of software?
Thanks all!
No question is stupid. Misplaced in the forums maybe but not stupid. Be sure to search before posting.
You don't need to activate the GPS. You do need software. You failed to mention your provider so until you give us more info we can't help much.
QuickGPS is a seperate program that helps you get a lock quicker on your GPS. (Search for a more complete explaination.)
GPS is not part of your phone service so you don't need 3G. Unless, of course, you are using a provider service that also requires you to be connected.
So, yes you need to buy TomTom, iGo, Garmin, or some other software. There are a bunch. Again, search and see what you like.
Hope that helps.
thanks for the answer, helps plenty.
Well actually I have no provider. I bought this phone used so I can use it in my country that is Chile. I am going to unlock it.
Thanks
The bottom line is you need some kind of mapping program. For example an online version like Live Search or Google Maps, and you will need a internet connection to use them. Maps are downloaded as you need them with those two. The other option is to use mapping programs like Tom Tom or IGO. Their maps are loaded to your on board memory and an internet connection is not needed.
Thanks, I will get tomtom
I am clear now
Automapa
Here's one piece of GPS navigation software that worked great with my Kaiser (before it got stolen) it's called Automapa and you can get it here: http://www.automapa.pl/?PEI=220708&lng=EN
it's not free though!

GPS in ATT Tilt

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bigone5500 said:
Does the ATT Tilt have an internal gps? If so how can I enable it for use without an external reciever?
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???
Did HTC or XDA devs publish a spec sheet? Did anyone ask this question before? Did Google develop the art of searching?
There's a LOT on this and if you only look at the specs, you'll know. In short, it does have GPS and it is usable without an external one.
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bigone5500 said:
Does the ATT Tilt have an internal gps? If so how can I enable it for use without an external reciever?
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seriously...I means SERIOUSLY???? Have you ever looked at the back of your Tilt where it says GPS?? or did you never read specs on the tilt or are you unable to understand english??
LEARN TO SEARCH!!!
Durrr.....why am I hungry? It doesnt say anywhere on my body that its hungry.
Yes, the ATT Tilt has GPS
It does have a built-in GPS. This same issue threw me off at first too, until I figured it out..
You flamers shouldn't flame the OP. Actual Kaiser and TyTnII owners may already know about the GPS, but the ONLY part of the "AT&T Tilt" documentation referring to GPS is the brief mention of being able to get TeleNav. I know this because I have one. The specs/box mention that it has GPS, but that's all.
Now if I remember correctly, the GPS is COM3 or COM4 by default (unless you changed it in Start->Settings->System->External GPS). I changed mine to COM0 just for the hell of it, and it functions normally.
TomTom should work just fine, set it to 4800 baud, and try it with each COM port available in the options. It sometimes takes a few minutes for TomTom to display that the GPS is in "connected, but no valid signal yet" mode.
If you want to be able to use your Tilt's GPS as an external for some other device, the best thing I've found is GPSGate, but any COM-port splitter should work (as long as it presents a new Bluetooth and/or Serial service)
GPSGate is also useful since you can tell it to log your GPS data to any URL, à la those logging/who-stole-my-phone programs. It can also multiplex the GPS port for use by multiple programs (but I think that functionality is also built into WM and is called the "GPS Intermediate Driver", but I may be mistaken)
Hope this helps!
--Weasel
It is definatly listed in the specs of the phone and it says it on the back of the phone. Why would you consider getting a phone without looking at the specs of it first??
Well I didnt' come to this forum to get this kind of response...and no I have never looked at the back of my phone...I let others do my dirty work
Administrators ... delete my account ... please...
bartimeus said:
It is definatly listed in the specs of the phone and it says it on the back of the phone. Why would you consider getting a phone without looking at the specs of it first??
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Oh I only researched it for 2 months and played with a friend's phone for another month before buying...
weasel5i2 said:
You flamers shouldn't flame the OP.
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Thank you.......
kareem9nba said:
In short, it does have GPS and it is usable without an external one.
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...and this is all I wanted to know...
bigone5500, just keep a list of those who flame others and those who are helpful, then when and "IF" you decide to donate, check your list.....
this site is a very good place for great info, do not let those who's only purpose here is to belittle others run you off.....
GPS stopped working for my ATT TILT
my GPS was working fine. my tomtom was working fine, googlemaps was working fine. then all of a sudden a few weeks ago it just stopped working! usually i would use GPS test to get a working signal and then I would run tomtom and it would work. a few months ago it started to take a much longer time to acquire a valid gps signal (it would take a few to 5 minutes). but now it just doesnt find one at all! is there anything i could do to try to fix this? what com port should it be on? im thinking i mightve changed one of the settings unknowingly. please help!

Simple Problem...(I guess)

Ok, I have never used the GPS feature on my Kaiser(Once a Tilt) till now. I have never needed to cause I didnt have a data plan. I used the routers at school and my house for internet. I got TT7 and I got a data plan cause TomTom is amazing. My GPS doesnt like to work. TomTom says their is no Device Detected. QuickGPS fails. The HTC GPS tool fails.....how can i troubleshoot my gps? Just a point in the right direction would help. (FWI, HD_III_OPAL WWE, 1.65.24.36)
DemoShadow said:
....my Kaiser(Once a Tilt)
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What does that mean? Have you added a camera and changed the case as well as the ROM?
QuickGPS fails. The HTC GPS tool fails.....how can i troubleshoot my gps?
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Fails in what way? The TyTN II I have, works ok with the version of Tomtom Navigator it came with but as TTN 7 isn't officially released (yet?) as an upgrade, all I can suggest is to go back to basics, perhaps trying the setup on my TyTN II in my sig. Otherwise maybe someone who's used TTN 7 on the TyTN II can advise you. Do a search in the Kaiser software forum, there were lots of GPS related posts in there.
I got it to work, my GPS settings were incorrect. Yea and TT7 works...I just downloaded the one free map that was close by, if I need to go anywhere else I will copy the maps from my "Official SD Map Card"
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
DemoShadow said:
I got it to work, my GPS settings were incorrect. Yea and TT7 works...I just downloaded the one free map that was close by, if I need to go anywhere else I will copy the maps from my "Official SD Map Card"
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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if your set has an inbuilt GPS reciever then it should be free irrespective of what plan you have ...except for whatever you need to shell out to buy the gps software and maps...
DemoShadow said:
I*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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It depends which Kaiser and where it was bought. The HTC Original TyTN II sold here in the UK came with TTN 6.032 on CDROM in the box but just like with the version you have it only allowed free download of one 'city' map. Any additional maps had to be bought and the number that went with the map could only be used on that device.
DemoShadow said:
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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The Kaiser's GPS receiver is integrated in the phone and doesn't need anything network-related to function (so yes, it's free in itself). It will give any program that wants it the current position, speed, heading etc of the phone.
I.e. there was no point in you "not using the GPS because you didn't have a data plan".
Then what might require a data plan or paying something is the program in question. There are 2 types of programs, those like Google maps or MS Live that are free to download and use, but DO need a data connection as they will download the map data from the net on request while navigating.
The other type like TomTom, MioMap etc do NOT need data as they store the entire maps locally on the memory card, however they are payware so you have to buy them in the first place.

Can i create a simulated GPS ?

Hello,
My parents are flying to canada at the end of this months. for their trip i have bought tomtom + canada/usa maps.
I want to make sure that the tytn2 functions well, so i was wondering i could make the GPS think he's in canada so that tomtom will display the map properly so i could test trip planning etc`.
Would appreciate your help on this one.
Thank you.
Paul
Wouldnt that be more of a tomtom question and not a kaiser question?
Don't see why the sats would act any different If it works here, it should work there.
please help me...
it does work here but i dont have any maps to test it out and i want to be certain that it does work in canada
Then talk to TOMTOM.
Sir.
This does not concern any particular navigation software.
I'm merely asking if there's a way to make the built in GPS think it's in canada, by maybe using some sort of program.
Please kindly assist me if y ou can.
Kindest regards,
Some jew.
There is one simple way to do this.... You jsut simpley hack the Canandian sattiliete and change their orbit so it hovers over your house and moce the ones that are over you to somewhere else (anywhere really).. That way your GPS will get signals from the canadian GPS sat's and think you are in CAnada.. Test it out... Then send all the Dat's back to their original orbits ... Be sure to not get caught as hacking international sat's is probhalyl against some rule or law somwhere ...
Hmm I think that requires an iphone to perform the hack.
you guys are very rude.
ChumleyEX said:
Wouldnt that be more of a tomtom question and not a kaiser question?
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It's a genuine Windows Mobile Question and I'm surprised at the answers being given here. Someone has a need to test GPS data for a geographic area they're not in irregardless of Software or geographic location, how can they test the data with a genuine Geographic location?
YPaul The answer seems to be a registry hack.
see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms889970.aspx
this is for WM5 and I havent confirmed it on WM6 but it allows the Windows Mobile GPS driver to pull the location from a text file rather than from the GPS device. The locations need to be formated as NMEA strings.

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