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No 6.1 yet?

The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(

Be paitient! some herald guys already have that

Coming this weekend for Herald... by Itje
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363412
read this...and wait...

Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough

theformula said:
Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough
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that is the smartphone version NOT the ppc version. there is NO real video or else for ppc version...

we'll see once the chef's start integrating the new os if the speed hype is for real, honestly thats all i'm looking for. oh and if it's not too much to ask i'd like my left softkey to go back to "new" in messaging like WM5. i could care less for individual message delete as clearing a whole folder does the trick for me =)

Of course the PPC version will be better-looking since PPCs are better than smartphones.

theformula said:
The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(
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The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.

ttran001 said:
The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.
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Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe

Ayerthon said:
Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe
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Awesome! Can't wait for this great release, good job Itje!

will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?

alongenemylines said:
will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?
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Pretty sure its going to be a whole new rom, as i dont think ive ever seen a point "upgrade" for windows mobile os. This will definately entail flashing a new image and all existing data will need to be backed up beforehand.

Winmo 6.5 is now final

Microsoft has has finally finished work on Windows Mobile 6.5, so we should hopefully start seeing bug free roms in the next few weeks.
A tweet from the Windows Mobile Development Team says it all, "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional."

It's a very good news , so now wait and see !

Hmm shouldn't we already have a version somewhere. What I mean is isn't someone already testing it?
Any ideas what is different or is it just final bug fixes etc?

Heefy said:
Any ideas what is different or is it just final bug fixes etc?
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Normally, such a great thing isn't just released, but there are RC (release candidates) beforehand. I don't know whether the WM6.5 roms here are already based on these release candidates, or if they are based on some real beta roms, but I guess there won't be any major differences.

What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."

custardo01 said:
What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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The alarm works in Miri V12, but you have to set the alarmtone in settings>sound&...>reminders instead of setting the alarmtone under clock.

doohh! Microsoft finished winmo 6.5 our miri finished 12 and i bet they all are better than the "original" one

custardo01 said:
What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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now thats just being unnecessarily cynical!
what they meant to say was:
For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE (although we will update the build every 12 hours)... complete (apart from the missing bits)... looks really good (but Manila/spb/pointUI look better) IOHO and every bit functional (providing you don't wont everything to work) however the ONE thing we did do was fix the alarm (we think??).
at least its no a Google product it would be in permenant BETA if it was!!

forget 6.5 - bring on wm7.0 - I know betas are out there already!!!

THat is a VEry great news i cant wait for the new roms based on the new build(not beta at last)

cypher2001 said:
Microsoft has has finally finished work on Windows Mobile 6.5, so we should hopefully start seeing bug free roms in the next few weeks.
A tweet from the Windows Mobile Development Team says it all, "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional."
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Wow!! When do M$ ever release a bug free applications? Didn't know that.

but then nothing is perfect.

zoomee said:
forget 6.5 - bring on wm7.0 - I know betas are out there already!!!
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There is??

The fact that they have released WM6.5 is great news. Means all cooks can use a non-beta version. I doubt very much that it will be bugless and agree with an earlier post that Miri's rom is probably better. I look forward to a lot more WM6.5 cooked roms.

CheongKing said:
Wow!! When do M$ ever release a bug free applications? Didn't know that.
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When does anyone?

WinMo 6.5 Final & Dutty ??
Fallen Spartan said:
The fact that they have released WM6.5 is great news. Means all cooks can use a non-beta version. I doubt very much that it will be bugless and agree with an earlier post that Miri's rom is probably better. I look forward to a lot more WM6.5 cooked roms.
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Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds

purec0de said:
Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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LoooL!!!! Very Fun!!!

purec0de said:
Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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I think Dutty will take a time off and then start working on a WM 6,5 ROM.

barbapappa_86 said:
I think Dutty will take a time off and then start working on a WM 6,5 ROM.
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You are correct. He plans to take a rest now, possibly a week or 2 and then start working on WM6.5 rom. He has told me this before and released a rom within a week so I would keep an eye out as you never know with Throy. Complete workaholic!!

Hang on we're talking about a ported Core and build to a device that is obviously never intended to run it
I dont think there's such a thing as a "bug free" ROM! what bugs are we talking about?
The bare WM6.5 seems pretty damn good in terms or stability and bugs (bar the damn alarm issue) seems to me the main issues are when HTC Manila, dialer, album etc etc from other device are cooked in that the real problems occur and since they will never be compatible with HD how much more "bug free" will it get than now?
Is there any WM6.1 ROM that is "bug free"?

pros and cons of WM 6.1 and 6.5

Hey everyone
I am trying to figure out which version of WM is best for the my phone. What are the pros and Cons of 6.1 vs 6.5?
and what are the best builds I can get for both? I have 2 Kaiser phones (HTC 8925) and would like to install 6.1 on one and 6.5 on the other to see which works best for me.
Thanks

livebackwards75 said:
Hey everyone
I am trying to figure out which version of WM is best for the my phone. What are the pros and Cons of 6.1 vs 6.5?
and what are the best builds I can get for both? I have 2 Kaiser phones (HTC 8925) and would like to install 6.1 on one and 6.5 on the other to see which works best for me.
Thanks
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6.1 is official and stable, 6.5 is unofficial and beta therefore there are some stability issues . Some roms more than others.
Beyond that , with two Tilts, lucky you. Put a stable 6.1 on one to use everyday and with the other, try every rom that looks and sounds good until you find the one that works for you.

denco7 said:
6.1 is official and stable, 6.5 is unofficial and beta therefore there are some stability issues . Some roms more than others.
Beyond that , with two Tilts, lucky you. Put a stable 6.1 on one to use everyday and with the other, try every rom that looks and sounds good until you find the one that works for you.
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Yeah I don't recommend 6.5 anymore. It screws up all the time.

wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
hhmmm
so what is the most stable 6.1 I can get?
or should I keep the 2nd one on 6.0.....?

livebackwards75 said:
wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
hhmmm
so what is the most stable 6.1 I can get?
or should I keep the 2nd one on 6.0.....?
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Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls. There are a lot of really nice things about 6.5 that I like a lot. Finger friendliness is one of them. But since we don't have an official version yet, everyone is experimenting and pushing the limits. " let's take this puppy out for a spin and see what it'll do " kind of thing. Chefs are not going for a nice safe stable version of 6.5. They are leaving that up to M$.
I use stylez' Black rom ( check sig ) it is as good as 6.1 gets. But I have also used shifu's v17, abusalza's X v.9, TPC's Elite v6 and mbarvian's Solice v3.1, also all good roms. Flash them all and see wnat you like best.

I ran duttys last rom for almost a year with only having to reset 2 times. You can't do what with a 6.5.

ChumleyEX said:
I ran duttys last rom for almost a year with only having to reset 2 times. You can't do what with a 6.5.
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Soft or hard? If that's soft, did you have routine soft resets and you only had to manually reset twice, or do you just not actually run anything.

denco7 said:
Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls. There are a lot of really nice things about 6.5 that I like a lot. Finger friendliness is one of them. But since we don't have an official version yet, everyone is experimenting and pushing the limits. " let's take this puppy out for a spin and see what it'll do " kind of thing. Chefs are not going for a nice safe stable version of 6.5. They are leaving that up to M$.
I use stylez' Black rom ( check sig ) it is as good as 6.1 gets. But I have also used shifu's v17, abusalza's X v.9, TPC's Elite v6 and mbarvian's Solice v3.1, also all good roms. Flash them all and see wnat you like best.
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Alright so I am now on "tylez' Black rom" and so far it is my favorite Rom.
is there a user manual for Touch Flo some where?
I installed the M2DC and am getting ready to play with differnt Themes. but I am having hard time customizing the touch flo.
but my main Question is under the "Programs" Tab in touch flow I would like to add a button that links to a certain File Directory. I can add File Exploer there, but not a set file directory. I created a Shortcut to the file and tried to add that but it didn't work. any Ideas? Ideally under that "program tab I'd like to add a link to the "Games Directory"
any help?

I ran all sorts of things, and all I did were a couple of hard resets.

livebackwards75 said:
wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
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Funny you say that. I was going to comment (And know I guess I am) that The 6.5 start menu is the only thing keeping me from using 6.5. The 6.1 start menu self organizes. The programs I use tend to stay at the top of the list. If it's not there, then I can go to the programs tab.

I wouldn't rule out HTC WM 6.0 ROMs
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Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls.
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Maybe this is an AT&T Tilt ROM or network specific thing because I've found WM 6.0 to be the most reliable hands down out of the numerous WM HTC WWE ROMs I've evaluated and even one WM 6.5 Customised ROM. My calls are reliable and clear and there don't seem to be the same 'screen flash' issues coming out of powersaving mode and occasional silent ring tones that the WM 6.1 ROMs gave me.
It's not the fastest in terms of GUI performance but as far as GPS performance is concerned people may as well use a sextant, almanac and maps to navigate because it'll be quicker than many GPS equipped ROMs using WM 6.1 and 6.5. This is because WM 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs require different radio firmware than the original WM 6.0 ROMs and these new Radios are weaker at/allocate less power to receiving the satellite signals.
It depends on what the owners priorities and intended uses for the phone are, as to which ROM is most suitable.

Nothing to do with the actual topic
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...Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make clls.
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Flying Kiwi said:
...as far as GPS performance is concerned people may as well use a sextant, almanac and maps to navigate because it'll be quicker than many GPS equipped ROMs using WM 6.1 and 6.5.
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We've gotten some pretty entertaining people in the last several months. I'm just catching up from missing half a year, and you people are pretty damn funny.

Alrite -- who amongst y'all is using 6.5 with SPB MS3? What can you report regarding its performance?

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Alrite -- who amongst y'all is using 6.5 with SPB MS3? What can you report regarding its performance?
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Used with TPC's and Abusalza's 6.5 naked or stripped versions, and the performance was very good. I wouldn't try to use it with full versions as it will have to compete with , Manila, MotoHome, and or Titanium/cHome for resources.

I've been using this 6.5 rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519715
It has been much more stable than the default 6.1 AT&T rom that I used for the last two years. Reception is even better.

T-Mobile USA WM 6.5 Upgrade coming on Jan 6, 2010

Hey TP2 USA T-Mo useser... I just saw that our carrier is giving us an WM 6.5 upgrade on Jan 6th 2010.
Source: http://pocketnow.com/rumor/t-mobile-windows-mobile-65-upgrade-coming-january-6-2010
I am already running WM 6.5 on my device as soon as the HSPL was out for our device... but its nice to see our carrier is giving us an official one too..
Just thought I would share this here.
If this was already posted and a duplicate post, please feel free to colse this thread.

Fantasic! That's great because I was never able to HardSPL my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2

That's Great! Thanks for the info.

bout time

Actually the source that revealed this was david over at tmonews.com, and even he said that this isn't completely concrete. So dont go crazy just yet.

Awesome, Cant wait

Tmonews
Tmonews broke the story first.
Any rate. Nice to have a official backup for warranty purposes.
January 6th 2010. Still in the rumor mill. When the source is tmonews.
People tend to trust it.

I'm going to stick with my super fast build of 6.5.3 that our wonderful cooks have provided. In my experience with past phones with T-Mobile and software updates then this new 6.5 from TMO will be very slow.... like a snail. I think the cooks here put together a much faster, more practical ROM. I agree that the news is terriffic for everyone not able to flash to a new ROM but I am excited to see what our cooks come up with next!

Cool...
so when are we getting Winmo 7?

Toad said:
Fantasic! That's great because I was never able to HardSPL my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2
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There is a program called team viewer.
Contact me and I can hardSPL your TP...

awesome! can wait to start cooking based on this new release

Just curious...currently, I have this official Europe rom installed http://htcpedia.com/ruu_rhodium_s_htc_europe_wm65/soft/htc-rhodium-rom.html?page=1 with hard spl but if I wanted to flash T-Mo's official wm6.5 rom, would I have to flash a soft spl first or is it not needed? Thanks in advance.

please contact me....i'd like to get my TP2 hardSPL'ed.

N1M1TZ said:
Cool...
so when are we getting Winmo 7?
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Never. >_>

Showtime7 said:
Never. >_>
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Microsoft has many windows 7 betas. The controls on the windows mobile 7 will be much heavier then wm 6.5. Microsoft doesn't want the competition to see it until March.

Rim1Flex said:
Microsoft has many windows 7 betas. The controls on the windows mobile 7 will be much heavier then wm 6.5. Microsoft doesn't want the competition to see it until March.
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and when it's out, porting it to hardware built for WiMo6.x is going to be much harder because WiMo7 is being developed with different hardware in mind, apparently WiMo7 phones will have more hardware in common with a zune then with a WiMo6.x phone

Jan 6
Wait and see if the date is real. I'll be cooking with it. When the HD2 comes out for T-Mobile I'll forget about my Touch Pro 2.

cdguider said:
Wait and see if the date is real. I'll be cooking with it. When the HD2 comes out for T-Mobile I'll forget about my Touch Pro 2.
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Following your steps brutha lol

well, I guess it wasn't for real. there is nothing in the tmobile site yet

TEE82 said:
Just curious...currently, I have this official Europe rom installed http://htcpedia.com/ruu_rhodium_s_htc_europe_wm65/soft/htc-rhodium-rom.html?page=1 with hard spl but if I wanted to flash T-Mo's official wm6.5 rom, would I have to flash a soft spl first or is it not needed? Thanks in advance.
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If you have HardSPL already, then you'll be able to flash whatever ROM you like, so yes, you'll be able to use T-Mobile's officials ROMs.

is there an official rom with wm6.5?

trying to look for an official rom for T8282 with wm6.5 on it, is there such rom available?

kenl said:
trying to look for an official rom for T8282 with wm6.5 on it, is there such rom available?
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NO....but personally in my opinion why do you need an official when there is soooo much newer ROM in this forum?? most roms here are much newer than official ROM anyway.

true, just thought to try the official if there was before the cooked rom due to option/settings set by the chef that i may not want on a cooked rom

kuailan said:
NO....but personally in my opinion why do you need an official when there is soooo much newer ROM in this forum?? most roms here are much newer than official ROM anyway.
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No official 6.5 ROM on T8282.
Mean no disrespect, newer doesn't always mean better. Especially when the hand-held device used on daily, real time based events.
It really sucks when you are checking up your schedule, the mobile phone went froze, with someone waiting your answers.
IMHO, stability, quick response are much more important than newer version. MS please give us one...8(

godel.chen said:
No official 6.5 ROM on T8282.
Mean no disrespect, newer doesn't always mean better. Especially when the hand-held device used on daily, real time based events.
It really sucks when you are checking up your schedule, the mobile phone went froze, with someone waiting your answers.
IMHO, stability, quick response are much more important than newer version. MS please give us one...8(
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Well that's definitely TRUE! But you know that is why normally you should wait for other people to comment before installing them. You will find out whether they are seriously bug or rock stable. I dont know which ones you are using? but I have been using the latest Energy 23554 with GTX theme, and never had a single problem (crash or restart). In fact the GTX version look awesome! You need to remember most of the ROMs here are built from Non-official ROM or betas...so dont expect to be perfect!

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true, just thought to try the official if there was before the cooked rom due to option/settings set by the chef that i may not want on a cooked rom
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Actually most of the Blackstone owners have been hoping for a free upgrade, including myself. Unfortunately I think HTC dont like that idea, maybe because it will affect the sales of their newer HTC Leo. But anyway...i dont really care now...since we have this great forum anyway...

okay i'll give energy 23557 a try and see how it goes

Really no point on upgrading. HTC is bussy creating other phones (mainly Android since WM is dead).
Can someone provide a single thing that we gain with WM 6.5?
I mean the OS itself, not a ROM based on WM 6.5 that comes with updated manilla, Opera, Office etc,. You can install any app on AM 6.1 too.
WM 6.1 uses less RAM, leaving more for the apps (on 6.5 I start with 50% used and after a while even after closing all apps, 65% used). And the start menu has a MRU app list that makes very fast to switch from one app (open or not) to another. I still have to see how WM 6.5 is better in any aspect.