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Tomtom 5 and Wired Tomtom GPS Receiver

I thought I would add my tuppenyworth to the Tomtom problems with the XDA 2i. Bought a wired Tomtom "Official" GPS receiver for it and tried it with TT5 to no avail. It would not recognise the receiver at all no matter how I tried to specify it's com ports etc..
I eventually upgraded to TT5.1 and it worked immediately with no problems at all. Been working fine ever since.

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hi, i have a xda 2i and use tomtom 5.20, when i use my wired gps i was told to switch off the infra red beam, mine seams to work like that.

port problem?
could anybody help? my xda2i never works with tomtom5...
how to switch the beam off pls??

switch off receiving beam????
under setting > connections > beam

O2 XDAIIi with tomtom 5.21 and BT GPS receiver
but there is still problem with the signals, it can display the right UTC time, and numbers of satellites, such as 29 on the North, but there all gray and said no valid GPS signal!
the com ports couldn't be changed which are com5 inboard, com6 outboard.
does anyone know what the proble is pls??
ps: I installed the BTHTools1100, but no change
see the attachment pic
many thanks

Hi Piers,
i've got exactly the same problem :-(.
With a GlobalStar BT348, the GPS signals are plainly perfect. But when i connect the official Tomtom wired receiver, i only get the grey bars, although, like you, the UTC and spinning wheel are there, indicating the GPS is detected.
I looked at the compatibility list on the Tomtom site, and besides Dell and iPaqs, there seems to be nothing compatible with the wired receiver.
Anybody has other information?

Hi again,
I think I found the solution
1. of course, "receive all incoming beams" has to be off
2. apparently, you can not have a paired BT GPS receiver (even inactive) when you want to use the wired Tomtom receiver... :shock:
I guess it has to do with the way WM2005 deals with GPS... :?:
So, in BT devices, delete the partnership with the BT receiver and everything works fine with the wired one. In TT5, simply declare the receiver as a wired Tomtom
I used it this morning, driving 100km, 90minutes, without a crash or anything

xda/tomtom/gps problem

I need help too...
I have Tom Tom on mmc card but my Gps receiver wont connect. I always get 'no gps device' message although my device is connected. the red light begins by flashing but then stays on constant. (is this relevant?).
My incoming beams box is already unchecked.
I have XDA 2i and would like exact step by step instructions how to get my GPS to work... (I'm a new user - it took me one hour to set a song as my ring tone - so imagine how long this is taking!) I feel like I have tried absolutely everything and its really starting to drive me crazy. All I want is sat nav.
Thanks.....

XDAIIi GPS problem
Chicken,
what version of TT are u using?
what gps receiver?
If it's TT3.x, 4.x, or 5.x (don't know v6 yet), first you'll need to pair your receiver with your XDA. Go to Bluetooth Manager->Tools->Paired Devices. Here (if it's not there already) tap on Add and then tap on search icon (next to Device: field). It will search for any bluetoothdevices in range. Once it finds your GPS receiver, enter the passkey (provided with the receiver, usually 0000) and tap ok. The GPS receiver should be installed.
Start TT, go to Change Preferences and browse to Show GPS Status. Here, tap on Configure, choose your GPS device (I guess it will be Other Bluetooth GPS), click on Select (if prompted for pairing the GPS with PDA just tap on Continue) and choose the port. It'll be one of the bluetooth serial ports (it's COM6 in my case). Make sure that the receiver is still on and bluetooth active and watch the GPS status. If there is No GPS device! message on the top go back to configuration and change to another port.
If still no luck go to your XDA Start->Settings->Connections->Beam, make sure the Receive all incoming beams is not selected. If still no joy, you'll need to test all the connections, check if you can 'see' the receiver with another bluetooth device ez mobile phone, than do the same with your PDA. You can also reset the GPS receiver (check the manual), you can also do it by removing the battery from it and leave it like this overnight...
Good luck!

can you recommend a good GPS receiver?
Hi Robsonix.
Thanks for your reply. I got stuck at the first stage though - but was relieved to find out I'm not a complete dummy as this is what I had already tried - but failed. I cannot get my GPS to pair up with my bluetooth. My phone cannot find it.
I bought my receiver on Ebay. its just a wire thing that connects through my cig lighter to my phone. It didnt come with any instructions!! I think its a little dodgy. Can you recommend a proper one?
I'm not sure what tom tom it is, I think 5?? But actually I havent a clue.
I cant check if the receiver works with another phone as it only has connections for the xda 2i.
Thanks for your help - I hope u can help me some more.....
any recommendations??
Chiken
ha ha. Never mind - I think I've found the problem. I'm such a thicko!! It takes two to tango right? I'm such a thicko...

Port Numbers
chiken said:
I need help too...
I have Tom Tom on mmc card but my Gps receiver wont connect. I always get 'no gps device' message although my device is connected. the red light begins by flashing but then stays on constant. (is this relevant?).
My incoming beams box is already unchecked.
I have XDA 2i and would like exact step by step instructions how to get my GPS to work... (I'm a new user - it took me one hour to set a song as my ring tone - so imagine how long this is taking!) I feel like I have tried absolutely everything and its really starting to drive me crazy. All I want is sat nav.
Thanks.....
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Do you select the correct port number to match your gps port number in the gps setup in TomTom?
DAz

SPV 1500 "Alpine" TT5 with GPS receiver
I've just joined this Forus following the aquisition of an Orange SPV which is now unlocked to run on T-Mobile. I have also used an MDA Compact II (Charmer?) successfully for the past year.
Like this current thread originator "chicken" (and no doubt many others) have had difficulty running my Holox BT-321 BT sat receiver with TT5. It pairs OK, but I TT5 cannot "see" the device, even though I have selected just about every Com device available.
I recently bought a wired sat receiver (just like chicken did), and thought this would work better. However, TT5 will not see this device either!
Can someone tell me how I can check which Com port is active on the PDA, or check if there is an input stream coming in from the sat receiver?
This is getting bloody frustrating now. My old Nokia 6600's worked first time out of the box!
Thanks
Peter (with the Aprilia Falco 1000)

GPS & Bluetoothproblem (newbie)

I have a slight problem with my gps, i've installed TomTom 6 (not the newest ver.) The problem is that i don't get a GPS signal, It just say "No valid GPS signal" and I do choose TomTom Bluetooth GPS reciver. Is that correct?
I do have a problem with my Bluetooth aswell, my Sony Ericsson HBH-PV705 Bluetooth headset (handsfree) doesn't connect to my TyTN II. I belive there might be some kind of setting that i've missed...
It connected nicley with my Samsung that I had before.
And I have downloaded and Installed the HTC hotfix regarding Bluetooth.
I've tried the search, but I couldn't se that there was anyone else with this problem.
Anyone who know what to do??

First off, are you sure you really need to use the Bluetooth adapter for GPS? After all, it comes with a built in one... I'll show you my config to get an idea:
GPS Receiver - Other NMEA GPS receiver
COM Port - 4
Baud Rate - 9600
I recommend you download and run GPS Test if you haven't already. This will tell you what Baud rate and COM port you should be running on.
In regards to your bluetooth Headset, are you sure you're following the correct process for pairing the device? I remember setting mine up, it was a nightmare... until i read the instruction

I just got my tytn II and am having the same problem. I don't have TomTom, but my gps doesn't seem to work, I tried gps test but after 10 minutes it still didn't tell me anything. I can't get my headset to work either, I paired them, the phone recognizes it, but doesn't let me talk on it.
I think me and Lalla have the same problem, I can't figure it out though =/
Thanks in advance.

Lalla said:
I have a slight problem with my gps, i've installed TomTom 6 (not the newest ver.) The problem is that i don't get a GPS signal, It just say "No valid GPS signal" and I do choose TomTom Bluetooth GPS reciver. Is that correct?
I do have a problem with my Bluetooth aswell, my Sony Ericsson HBH-PV705 Bluetooth headset (handsfree) doesn't connect to my TyTN II. I belive there might be some kind of setting that i've missed...
It connected nicley with my Samsung that I had before.
And I have downloaded and Installed the HTC hotfix regarding Bluetooth.
I've tried the search, but I couldn't se that there was anyone else with this problem.
Anyone who know what to do??
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Firstly - have you got a TyTn or a TyTn II (AKA Kaiser)? As another poster says, why are you using bluetooth for GPS. The TyTn II has GPS built in!!!
Again as said above if it's a Kaiser you have use "other NMEA" as the device not bluetooth.
If Tomtom says "No valid signal" then it has found a GPS device but is waiting for a strong enough signal. The first time you set up it may take a long time to connect. Leave it in a place with a clear view of the sky. It will also help if you have run Quick GPS from your programs menu.
Mike

edd1e said:
I just got my tytn II and am having the same problem. I don't have TomTom, but my gps doesn't seem to work, I tried gps test but after 10 minutes it still didn't tell me anything. I can't get my headset to work either, I paired them, the phone recognizes it, but doesn't let me talk on it.
I think me and Lalla have the same problem, I can't figure it out though =/
Thanks in advance.
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Did you change any settings in "External GPS"? This can cause connection problems. (There are fixes for it though).
Mike

mikechannon said:
Did you change any settings in "External GPS"? This can cause connection problems. (There are fixes for it though).
Mike
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Not sure if I changed it but here are the settings:
port: COM4
Hardware port: None
Baud Rate: 4800
manage gps... is checked
Thanks for your quick reply
I tried gps test but it took about 10 minutes to get 3 bars then I lost 2 :/
Maybe I just need to leave it out for a long time?

edd1e said:
Not sure if I changed it but here are the settings:
port: COM4
Hardware port: None
Baud Rate: 4800
manage gps... is checked
Thanks for your quick reply
I tried gps test but it took about 10 minutes to get 3 bars then I lost 2 :/
Maybe I just need to leave it out for a long time?
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Actually, that sounds like it's working OK. You will notice that the Kaiser picks up and drops sats every other second. There is a thread about this someplace. In other words as you move around the sat signal will pick up and drop sats as you move (even if you are standing still) When using Tomtom or the like this does not seem to matter and it works very well.
I have found that when you first switch on the GPS make sure you have a clear view of the sky all around, then you can move to more obscured areas and it will hold a proportion of the signal. If you switch on in an obscured area, then it will take a while to acquire a fix. Running Quick GPS regularly will speed things up.
As a guide, if I switch on indoors it can take ten minutes even near a window. In the car it fixes in less than a minute (normally).
The exception is if I last switched off GPS some miles from my current location. It seems it remembers the sats position from when it was last used so if you switch on later some miles away, it takes longer - presumably 'cos it's looking in slightly the wrong place.
Mike

Ok, I'm trying GPS test right now, seems to working. Thanks for your help.
Any clue why my bluetooth headset doesn't work right? Their paired and the phone recognizes it, but I can't use it in a call.

Thanx for all the help from you all!
I've managed to fix the settings for my GPS so it works fine. But the problem with my Bluetooth is still there...but I won't give up!

go to youre bluetooth devices, find your bluetooth headset from the list and tap it. now check and see if both boxes are ticked, the stereo headset and the handsfree. now go back to the list and long tap on the bluetooth headset and set it to handsfree. that should sort it. if not try repairing it

Didn't work for me. My bluetooth headset only gives me a hands free options but it does not work. I tried it on another phone and it works fine.

Cannot pair with HOLUX GPSlim 236

Hi ALL,
Yesterday I updated my T-Mobile MDA II with the WM6.1 from c_shekhar, the 6.1.1b16CS ROM. Everything seems to be fine so far, except the feature I need first of all - connecting my GPS mouse "HOLUX GPSlim 236" via Bluetooth. The PDA just does not want to pair with the mouse. I do not talk yet about tomtom or other software... I'm just doing "Add new device" in Bluetooth settings, the mouse is found, I specify 0000 as passcode and after ~15-20 seconds PDA says "it can not pair because of an error or passcode wrong". The passcode is 0000. If I specify a different passcode, the PDA answers just immediately "can not pair". Bluetooth is turned on of course. The WM6.1 setting "Manage GPS automaticaly" is turned off (I have read that this might be the case). So, is it a kind of Bluetooth defect of this ROM Image on Tmobile-II? Does the WM6.1 have kind of logs or traces to see what happens during "trying to pair"? I applied no other tools after the image upgrade, so the WM6.1 is the only software I have. With my previous Win2003 the GPS mouse worked fine of course. Will appreciate any help. Thanks in advance!

Try clicking on the "managing gps automatically". I'm using the same rom and gps unit and it sure works for me.

Thanks, yes, I tried that option. Does not help.
Actually I noticed why it happens. Turned ON mouse blinks with the blue LED (indicating that bluetooth is active). Now trying to pair with the mouse, I'm forced to specify the passcode 0000 on PDA. At the moment of "authorisation", the blue LED on the mouse STOPS blinking. Why could that be? No idea... Turning the mouse off and then on right away (during pairing) - the LED starts blinking again, but it does not help to pair anyway... I assume that a kind of authorisation protocol has been changed in WM6.1... Any other ideas? Thanks in advance.

Hi, i have similar problems with pairing.
For me it works when i don´t type in a pass code instead the necessary "0000".
After 10-20 Seconds of happening nothing a message pops up that the BT antenna wants to connect with the Pocket PC (very strange, never had before). If you type "No" the device asks a second time and then i say "yes" and it works.
Dont no why but it works.
Another strange thing: when i pair my headset first, which works withoutany problem, pairing with GPS works in most cases very fast - but not every time.
Strange thing

I am having this EXACT issue. gpslim 236. Ive had it for years. For the past to roms ive used, it has been sketchy, they were both 6.1 roms, pdaviet and binkys. I will try a 6.0 rom tonight to see if that fixes the issue.

Im on a hermes by the way, but this was the case for me, until i reverted back to a 6.0 rom. Pairs without issues now, like it used to, like it should

Just updated to Helmi WM6.1 ROM and same problem with GPSlim 236.
worked great on 6.0, enter 0000, paired, no problem. Now, as you said, 0000 tends to fail, then I get prompted that GSPlim wants to pair. Even if I get it paired, com port set, gps viewer still can't find the gps.
Seems a problem in the 6.1 rom.

Ah, noticed that having GPS viewer open gps on the port I set causes bluetooth gps connect confirm to pop up. something very wrong in this new ROM!

Perhaps you should read the wiki about connecting external GPS devices for Himalaya. I use bluetooth for everything, including with an external GPS device, and this is the best rom for it.
I would be very surprised if the problem was caused by the rom.

Appreciate that it works for you, but it doesn't work for me and the others here.
stock WM5 & WM6 Helmi worked fine. WM6.1 does this weird thing where the proper passcode of 0000 doesn't work.
Connects fine with my jawbone & my PC. it's just our GPSlim236

HTC TYTN2 ad a Bluetooth GPS?

Hi
Is there any software for the tytn2 which will allow me to use it as a bluetooth gps?
Thanks

i have installed a program named GPSgate. You can try this... but i never tested it. You can link your gps to bleutooth virtual com port and trough USB i thougt.
Good Luck

GPS2Blue, work perfect with my Kaiser and my UMPC via bluetooth

Looks like GPS2Blue will do the trick - what settings did you use on the TYTN2 ?
Thanks

I had the same question this morning Downloadd GPSGate end it worked perfect as a GPS via BlueTooth.

How did you do that doemaarwat
lol die naam ook

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How did you do that doemaarwat
lol die naam ook
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Ach ik Doemaarwat
No just kidding. I installed the software on my TyTN II. Then started the program and it came with a wizard. I checked Active Sync and BlueTooth. After that you have a new row at the bottom of your screen. There you can see that it is active. I turned on the BT on my device. Then browsed BT devices on my computer and there a got a SPP port and it was mapped to COM18. In my program (which we wrote ourselves at our company) I connect to COM18 and all works fine.

Yes Blue2GPS is small, simple, light and it worked with NO FUSS and no bull.
I can use the GPS on my phone to track my position using Google, Microsoft's Live search and Delorme all the while sending a GPS signal to my laptop where I can also track my position - Lots of fun!
GPS2BLUE is but simple - It works.

Beautiful. Had exactly the same question and this has flatly answered it I spent hours this morning trying to get my Tytn2 to work as a standalone GPS receiver that my old brick of a Ipaq h6340 could use for it's SatNav software.
Thank you to all

Yep, try GPSGate.....

This is going to sound silly, but is it possible to share a bluetooth GPS via Bluetooth on the Tilt?
I have an unused smartphone with Tom Tom on it which I'd like to use as a car nav so my Tilt isn't tied up doing it. But I want the Tilt having use of the GPS for TrackMe and other things.
I will not use the Tilt's GPS for many reasons, so I use a Bluetooth GPS, and share it out to multiple programs on the Tilt via GPSGate. All that works well. But it'd be nice to be able to share the bluetooth GPS with the other smartphone as well.
AFAIK the GPS won't connect to multiple devices, and I tried to set up a bluetooth output in GPSGate which didn't seem to work. I know the Tilt can connect to multiple devices on Bluetooth, but perhaps GPS data is too much to share. But figure it's worth asking.