the first week i had this it worked great, battery lasted maybe 3 days with minimal use. now with minimal use the battery is unpredictable. sometimes i'll charge it fully at maybe 10 am for example, not use it much at all, then by the time i wake up the next morning its dead. sometimes its even drained faster than that, wifi, bluetooth are not on, no programs running. sometimes i find that its very hot for no reason at all. i'm wondering if i need to take this back to the shop for repair---or if its something i dont; know about that i'm doing wrong? thanks for the help.
Do a search about RLOD in this forum. You will find some answers about this issue.
I notice my battery drains and the back of my phone get hot when I use the GPS. Maybe an application that you ran in the past is leaving the GPS connection open?
Have you tried a Hard Reset?
Just a thought
i don;t use gps, never had, probably never will since women cannot drive in ksa. as for a running program thats open, maybe but how can i find out which is open? according to my device nothing is open.
yeah i recently had that issue too, still investigating it.
So far im investigating:
-AE Button Plus
-Microsoft Voice Command 1.6
-Spb Mobile Shell 2.1
ever since i installed those, its been getting really hot during standby, and wakes up dead in the morning
Had the same problem. Hard reset solved it, it came back after installing my software again. I think it's S2U2, gave errors sometimes and wrecked my sound.
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This happened to me the other day... Drained dead...........
Have not found reason yet!
I found out what was causing my issue a day ago, maybe related to yours too.
It turns out, AE button plus (when using a button to toggle wifi on aka wifitrigger) still stays connected even though u put the device to sleep. Wheras normally it would disconnect and try to reconnect on wake. However when you manually turn on wifi, instead of using ae button plus' wifi trigger allowed it to go back on its normal behavior.
AE Button WIFI on Standby
Yes, I noticed that the AE Button plus keeps WIFI on, even when on standby... Actually, even if I do it the normal way now, it stays on on standby, unless I change the setting back/forth in Kaisertweak...
Then when I run AE Button plus again, it messed up again.
Have you heard of a solution (one solution is to use another program to turn on/off WIFI ? I just emailed the author.
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Hi everyone.. I need some help with this problem.
This is what happened .. Last night before going to sleep i checked the time on my kaiser, then made sure no applications were running and pressed the power buton (for sby). The battery was at 79%. This morning the phone was switched off. When i press the power to turn it on the battery was fully drained and completely dead. This is not the first time this has happened. And it doesnt matter at what charge the battery is. IT JUST HAPPENS... By the way i have it in flight mode since i never use it as a phone. I contacted the rep in my country and said they can check it out, but i would prefer avoiding the 2 weeks waiting...
ANY ideas...
Thank you all
Either there is something wrong with your battery or you've got software installed which drains your battery all the time.
Disable or uninstall monitoring programs or third party apps that can cause battery drain.
Did you install new apps recently?
ive had that issue once, gave me a rlod!
i basically ran pocket mechanics file cleanup...
took a while so i gave it 5 minutes, then bam! battery dead and had then saw the infamouse rlod. i was scared ****less
but after a ressurection with aid of some htc guy,
i had to hard reset(many of the files became corrupt) and it never happened again.
sooo try a hard reset
can you explain the ressurection with aid of some htc guy?
thx
Hi everyone.
Thanx for the replies. Well i havent installed any software lately and the only monitoring software i have is the battery status which i dont think is the problem since the reason i installed was these sudden deaths...
is there any way to find out if a certain app drains power when in standby mode?
Battery suddenly dropping happened to me twice... re-charged the battery and had no more issues concerning battery dropping. Possibily, it's some kind of app that keeps on running even though task manager does not trace it... That's my point.
To see whether your Kaiser is consuming more power than needed, close all running apps and leave it on until it reaches the idle power consumption (my Battery Status says 40-50 mA).
Also, complete discharge-charge cycle could help re-calibrate the battery gauge.
I was just wondering if someone can test it out as well. Ok my situation is that I used to put my phone in standby with nothing on such as my phone looking for email every so minutes because I set those to manual. Don't have any programs running as well. Well when I would wake up my phone the battery would be drained substantially. Example of this was I had my phone at 100 percent charge, went to bed and when I woke up my phone wouldn't wake up so I popped out the battery, put it back in and 28 percent battery. I was like wtf I'm not even using my phone. Well I noticed that if I turn on my bluetooth the battery does not drain like it does when it's off. Kind of weird but I've tested this out and it works. I am using Shaps: 4.31 ROM English and Radio: 1.27.15.32 (I remember reading that this radio was a BETA but I've been using it for almost 2 months maybe more) I'm thinking about switching my radio for another one. Just wanted to let you guys know it's weird. I find myself keeping my bluetooth on all the time so the battery doesn't drain as fast. I can actually get a full days use of my phone now. Weird huh?
Yup - weird - I find exactly the opposite. I turn off my bluetooth when I do not specifically need it to SAVE my bettery.
Bill
I have an even different situation. Since I constantly use my bluetooth headset, I leave Bluetooth in the "On" mode all day and night. The thing is, I charged my battery until it was at 100%, left it on the counter (not charging) for the night (approx. 8-9 hours) and when I woke up, it was at 98%!
Keep in mind, Bluetooth and WiFi were both turned on. Good stuff.
Commas are your friend.
As it is, it's barely readable.
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I was just wondering if someone can test it out as well. Ok my situation is that I used to put my phone in standby with nothing on such as my phone looking for email every so minutes because I set those to manual. Don't have any programs running as well. Well when I would wake up my phone the battery would be drained substantially. Example of this was I had my phone at 100 percent charge, went to bed and when I woke up my phone wouldn't wake up so I popped out the battery, put it back in and 28 percent battery. I was like wtf I'm not even using my phone. Well I noticed that if I turn on my bluetooth the battery does not drain like it does when it's off. Kind of weird but I've tested this out and it works. I am using Shaps: 4.31 ROM English and Radio: 1.27.15.32 (I remember reading that this radio was a BETA but I've been using it for almost 2 months maybe more) I'm thinking about switching my radio for another one. Just wanted to let you guys know it's weird. I find myself keeping my bluetooth on all the time so the battery doesn't drain as fast. I can actually get a full days use of my phone now. Weird huh?
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If your battery is draining over night when your not using it, it's probably because you have something running in the background. You might have "closed" something and then it was actually still running. Try installing AlltheWay's task manager. This aids in making sure nothing is running in the background.
I'd upload the cab but I'm at work and don't have it.
Getting a full days use out of your phone is NOT something you should be happy about. I get 2 days with Wifi and Bluetooth use.
@ kamilzmielca: Your Wifi connection goes to sleep when your phone does, so your Wifi actually wasn't running over night.
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I was just wondering if someone can test it out as well. Ok my situation is that I used to put my phone in standby with nothing on such as my phone looking for email every so minutes because I set those to manual. Don't have any programs running as well. Well when I would wake up my phone the battery would be drained substantially. Example of this was I had my phone at 100 percent charge, went to bed and when I woke up my phone wouldn't wake up so I popped out the battery, put it back in and 28 percent battery. I was like wtf I'm not even using my phone. Well I noticed that if I turn on my bluetooth the battery does not drain like it does when it's off. Kind of weird but I've tested this out and it works. I am using Shaps: 4.31 ROM English and Radio: 1.27.15.32 (I remember reading that this radio was a BETA but I've been using it for almost 2 months maybe more) I'm thinking about switching my radio for another one. Just wanted to let you guys know it's weird. I find myself keeping my bluetooth on all the time so the battery doesn't drain as fast. I can actually get a full days use of my phone now. Weird huh?
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This could also be related to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
yeap, mine does the same thing, thought i was crazy, but with bluetooth on i save battery life.
Yeah man I thought I was going crazy also. To the previous poster all the programs are fully shut down. I've had many pda's (windows) and I am familiar with how they work. I fully shut everything down and then put it to sleep. Bluetooth seems to be extending my battery. Like I said before all my email I have setup in the phone I set so I manually have to send/receive instead of it looking for it at a predestined time. Nothing is automatically connecting (as in programs) I'll look a little deeper, it may be due to the radio version on my Kaiser. Any input on this guys?
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Yeah man I thought I was going crazy also. To the previous poster all the programs are fully shut down. I've had many pda's (windows) and I am familiar with how they work. I fully shut everything down and then put it to sleep. Bluetooth seems to be extending my battery. Like I said before all my email I have setup in the phone I set so I manually have to send/receive instead of it looking for it at a predestined time. Nothing is automatically connecting (as in programs) I'll look a little deeper, it may be due to the radio version on my Kaiser. Any input on this guys?
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you could try to measure the actual battery usage with "BatteryStatus" with and without bluetooth. Would be interesting to see the differences.
Maybe the bluetooth is slowly charging the phone when on through the radio waves! or some mad theory
I might give this a try as my phones lasts about a day atm
My phone lasts about a day at the most with full battery charge. 2 hour of talk time plus the other stuff I usually do. 2 days is crazy maybe you don't have as much programs on your phone so you use it less. (to the previous poster) I will get that battery program and do a test to see the difference.
another crazy idiot here: bluetooth on also gives me a longer battery life...
is this a joke from HCT??????
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another crazy idiot here: bluetooth on also gives me a longer battery life...
is this a joke from HCT??????
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Your not crazy man! I'm doing a test now with BatteryStatus and notice that I actually get a lower mA reading with BT on. This is messed up.
When I fist read this thread I though everyone was nuts, now I think I've just entered the rubber room. lol
I could imagine, that some application or some part of the operation system is trying to communicate with the bluetooth stack. And when bluetooth is turned of, it tries it again and again. Where when bluetooth is turned on it justs recognizes, that bluetooth is on but no device is paired and doesn't bother any more.
Just an Idea. But it would be interesting to find out if this also happens with an absolutely clean device after hardreset. And if so, if this applys to all ROMs.
I mentioned in another thread, but I installed that new Google Search bar that came out the other day. It sits on your Today Page. Battery life went to heck when it was active. As soon as I disabled it, battery life improved. I'll try turning on BT. You never know.
Just an update.
I've flashed duttys new release (in my sig) and the mA reading is where its supposed to be (between 1-5) WITHOUT having bluetooth running. I'll test with BT on for a little and post back.
EDIT: With BT on I seem to have the same power drain as I would normally.... which is great cuz I usuall leave it on anyway.
This BT phenomena might have something to do with the flashed ROM you guys are using. I've got the standard HTC TyTN2 default ROM and BT on definitely sucks battery power more than without.
Very strange. I could even see it being possible...
With bluetooth on in standby it's doing sub-10mA (5-8mA). With the screen on, it's about 80mA to 100mA.
With bluetooth off in standby it's doing sub-10 again... maybe a little lower.... and with the screen on... still around 80mA.
Doesn't seem to be having the desired effect on my phone (stock O2 ROM), but then I can already get 2 days out of my phone without too many problems.
Now it only saves my battery granted if I'm not using a bluetooth headset. If i'm using bluetooth like via a headset it will drain fast. If I have it on but not using any Bluetooth devices it saves my battery.
Bluetooth on... wtf??
Hi all
... unbelievable, i test this on my device too, and i can confirm -> Bluetooth On (but not using it) saves my battery!!!
Info:
WM6 Pro CE 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM: 1.56.408.5
Radio: 1.27.12.11
It could be added to the Wiki!!!
Hello
The battery life of the HTC Touch Diamond is quite short. I want the phone to automatically turn off at night, because I don't use it.
So I want it to automatically turn off and then on at specific times.
Is there any way to do this?
Turning it off shouldn't be a problem. Turning it on is harder.
Thanx.
maybe you can just plug in the charger at night? then you can have full battery in the morning and people can still call if there is an emergancy.
It will not be possible to turn on the phone automatically, unless you make some kind of external device that will push the button for you?
SKSchema or PhoneWeaver can do this, but both are not freeware.
SKschema use scripts and you can do a lot of things like a softreset every day etc. etc., also turn off and turn on phone.
PhoneWeaver is a phone profile software, which use manual and/or time scheduled profiles.
Maybe there some similar software also as freeware, but I don't know, because of using these two above.
Im sure once the phone is off there is no way of turning it back on unless by physical input. Once the phone is off ALL processes die.
I used to use this freeware application on my Trinity with WM6.1
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=2400
I haven't tested on Diamond but I would imagine the function to switch on/off phone should still work. Highly unlikely the notification settings will function though.
i tried SPB Phone Suite to switch profiles but that didn't work too well
It's best to just remember to do it... cos the battery really drains if it stays on all night... mine went from full at 1:30 am to +/- 20% this morning (10:00) with minimum backlight on all night, and GSM phone on... bad, i know
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i tried SPB Phone Suite to switch profiles but that didn't work too well
It's best to just remember to do it... cos the battery really drains if it stays on all night... mine went from full at 1:30 am to +/- 20% this morning (10:00) with minimum backlight on all night, and GSM phone on... bad, i know
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Why do you leave the backlight on?!
If you let your phone go in the sleep mode it will only uses 12mA.
It will only use 10% per night (if you sleep 7,5h).
TDO
what he said
other than that, charge at night?
Try this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1428076
It doesn't really switch off your phone but places it into flight mode. When I use this, my battery will only get discharged by 0-1% in the morning.
Cannot Sleep ??
Hi all
I installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.01 and i'm very happy with it. Everything worked fine for 3 weeks or so, battery drain was normal but for 3 days my diamond is dead in the morning.
I started a log using Battery Log and every night at 00:00 (12:00 AM) battery consumption increase from 13ma to ~135ma in suspend mode.
I don't have task or alarm set for that hour. What should i do?
Thanks.
Try all battery tweak you can find
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/efd02667-5ee8-4aa0-897f-7b894bace0d4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402785
http://htcrom.com/improve_htc_battery_performance
http://www.modaco.com/content/diamond-diamond-modaco-com/270172/htc-diamond-battery-life/
Did you place the phone in a different spot in your room overnight than usual? If carrier reception is bad or flaky, the phone might need more power to connect/reconnect/keep the connection alive. This can change greatly depending on where the phone is placed in a room.
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Hi all
I installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.01 and i'm very happy with it. Everything worked fine for 3 weeks or so, battery drain was normal but for 3 days my diamond is dead in the morning.
I started a log using Battery Log and every night at 00:00 (12:00 AM) battery consumption increase from 13ma to ~135ma in suspend mode.
I don't have task or alarm set for that hour. What should i do?
Thanks.
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yeah the diamond wakes up at midnight. check your power options if something is messed up (even if you didnt change anything). perhaps after the diamond wakes up, it wont turn off the screen or something...
Just as a test. Disable SPB mobile shell before you go to sleep tonight to see what happens.
Also, what apps have you installed since installing SPB mobile shell??
I'm having the same problem with my Fuze. Two out of the last three nights (the other night I left it on the charger), the battery was at 70% or more at 1:00am, but at about 8:00am it was down to 10%.
I'm also running SBP Mobile Shell 3.0.1, and it and WinTask are the only things that should be running, other than S2U2 (v2.04). I recently flashed Da_G's latest Clean Fuze ROM (WM6.5), and I always used SBP Mobile Shell on a stock ROM before that with nothing like this issue.
I've noticed that the phone turns on at midnight, but this drain (in my case, at least) seems to be occurring later, while I'm asleep. I have not changed where I set my phone, and I've never had trouble getting a good signal in my room.
I'll try disabling Mobile Shell at night and see what happens.
thank you all for your answers, i was away for a while
I disabled spb, touch flow, i used a simple htc home desktop and it was ok since last night i found it dried out in the morning
the only thing i did i played with the wireless a little, then suspended at 80% battery.. maybe that's the reason... who knows
Sorry, I forgot to follow up on this.
I tried what I said I would, closing Mobile Shell at night, and at first it seemed to work, but it was inconsistent, and on at least one occasion it didn't work at all.
Since then I have found a solution, at least for my problem: I run iLock2 at night (to disable S2U2), and then run it again (to re-enable S2U2) in the morning. This has worked every night without fail.
I'm no expert, and nothing even close to a developer, but it seems like Slide 2 Unlock is keeping the phone from sleeping. I'm never going to stop using it, of course, because it's probably the single most important program I've installed on my phone, but it appears to be the cause of my battery drain problem.
If you use S2U2, give that a try. If not, I have no idea.
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Sorry, I forgot to follow up on this.
I tried what I said I would, closing Mobile Shell at night, and at first it seemed to work, but it was inconsistent, and on at least one occasion it didn't work at all.
Since then I have found a solution, at least for my problem: I run iLock2 at night (to disable S2U2), and then run it again (to re-enable S2U2) in the morning. This has worked every night without fail.
I'm no expert, and nothing even close to a developer, but it seems like Slide 2 Unlock is keeping the phone from sleeping. I'm never going to stop using it, of course, because it's probably the single most important program I've installed on my phone, but it appears to be the cause of my battery drain problem.
If you use S2U2, give that a try. If not, I have no idea.
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You could try TouchLockPro, because that uses very very less resource and has a positive effect on battery life (if your phone awakes, it will be suspended after 30 seconds if still locked).
Ok, I renew this topic because i have the same problem. I didn't install any program like spb shell, i just saw that after 12:00 Am the battery will drain vrey vrey quick, almos 1% per minute. I disabled touchflo 3d, but with no effect at all. I'm using this rom... It's made for western europe, I'm from Romania(eastern europe), and sometimes i think that there is some problem with the connections, bands, i don't know, maybe it's set for western europe bands. Also, when i enter the task manager, nothing shows in the list ... so i can't see if any program is running.
I think the problem is myPhone Sync. Try to disable the planed sync and everything schuld be fine. Manual sync works also fine.
I have a HD, and my battery was also draining very fast. Even during the day when I was doing nothing.
After disabling the myPhone service, it's normal again. So, no idea why, but the myPhone service seem to be constantly active and doing something (not synching to the MS servers, just doing 'something').
Very weird.
Hi there,
I have a huge problem with my Diamond..
Since I went to the Alps in christmas, (local temperatures where about -8 degrees celcius(phone can handle this I hope))
whenever I make use of consuming programs (i.e.: Opera, TouchTwit, Windows Live Messenger, whatever..) My phone just turns off ? random times.. mostly after using the program for like 2 minutes.. not more than 2 mins.
Anyway, I restart my phone, it says Battery almost empty?! what the.. I just plugged it out of my recharger? if my battery gets below 5% it shuts down again and again, after few restarts it was fixed, and battery was back normal. (When phone is connected to recharger, there's no problem with any of these applications
Now my question is, since I have no warranty (Hard-spl)
What to do now?
Thanks for helping me out already
(btw: it's with every ROM I use and I have never had this issue before..)
Update: I just ordered a new battery 1340 mAh, hope this will solve it, Im running official Dutch Rom from htc website at the moment, its definitly not a rom problem, cause it shuts down also
have you found a solution yet?
i seem to have exactly the same problem...
the phone shut's down and there is always only 5% battery life remaining
i get the idea it has something to do with the internet connection, cause it always happens when i browse or use outlook
so i tried updating the radio rom, but that did not fix it
i will try it with tomtom or anything that uses a lot of memory without internet, see what happens...
i hope you have already found solution, and are willing to share it!
Edit:
It seems to have nothing to do with the memory consuming of the apps.
When i run tomtom for example, it runs fine and the phone does not shut down.
When i exit the app, and run quickgps and let it download the gps-data from the internet, the phone shut's down after a few seconds.
So maybe i do have a different problem...
Anyone have a suggestion on how to fix it? It happens with different ROMs and Radio versions.