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I have a Qtek 2020i and recently it got a serious battery problem. On a sudden the main battery started loosing its charge too early. It can become from 100% to 30% for a night (whan no operations are performed on the device). Before this breakdown the battery was loosing approximately 5% per night. At daytime when I use the machine, this process is quicker.
I use the battery for more than a year but the reason of the problem is not a battery. By the end of the day the meter shows 0% of the main battery (when in cradle, of course). Meanwhile the backup battery remains 100% and hard reset is not performed. If the main battery would really be 0%, I would loose all my data, but it never happens.
After I put my device in the cradle, it is "recharged" to 100% for less than an hour.
I made a hard reset of my device and after it the meter worked well. But after restoring the data from backup the problem reappeared.
I have some other problems that may be related to the battery problem. The Camera.exe looses its label in Programs and stops starting by pressing hardware button.
The device is loading slower after soft reset.
I change time for one Alarm. It works not only in the new time but also in all the previously set times.
There is a thread where similar problems were discussed, but there is no solution for the battery problem. Here is its link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282763&highlight=battery
The problem may be in the register or in the battery driver or wherever. Please, someone help me and describe the solution for the other users of Apline.
Sounds to me like your battery is knackerd it does happen look on e-bay loads of places (usually in Hong Kong) selling new ones maybe even get a uprated one the standard one in the XDA IIi is a 1300Ah they do sell 2400 and even 3600 Ah ones I am in the process of buying a 3600Ah one myself, they are not a vast fortune (around £15 GBP) and worth that.
I have an upgraded battery myself. The computer behaves with it like with the 1300. Only the bigger battery discharges slower. But still quicker than few weeks before. This is a software problem and it disappears after the hard reset. But i don't want to make a hard reset and reinstall all my programs from zero. Besides, the problem can reappear. So, this is not a solution.
Software cannot run a battery down alone unless you have something permanatly turned on, that would be your choice.
if there is a hardware fault that could
Moses_Ivanov said:
I have an upgraded battery myself. The computer behaves with it like with the 1300. Only the bigger battery discharges slower. But still quicker than few weeks before. This is a software problem and it disappears after the hard reset. But i don't want to make a hard reset and reinstall all my programs from zero. Besides, the problem can reappear. So, this is not a solution.
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i had a large capacity 3600mah battery and it was stuffed it would just lose all its juice instantly.
apart from getting a new bat, have you updated your firmware? or just reinstalling your firmware, there may a be prob with it.
but it does sound more likly that its time to buy a orbit
The most likely option is that wireless is on and not being indicated by the led or on the display, go into connections and see if it shows or better still see if your laptops wireless connection can see the phone, sometimes the indicator does not show but it is active.
skeeve666 said:
i had a large capacity 3600mah battery and it was stuffed it would just lose all its juice instantly.
apart from getting a new bat, have you updated your firmware? or just reinstalling your firmware, there may a be prob with it.
but it does sound more likly that its time to buy a orbit
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I never made an update of my firmware. Dou you mean a hard reset by reinstalling the firmware or some updating (new ROM version etc)? The batteries come without any firmware. My ROM version is 1.11.00 WWE. I guess, there must be an update, but after updating the ROM I will lose all the date on the device, and I don't want this happen.
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The most likely option is that wireless is on and not being indicated by the led or on the display, go into connections and see if it shows or better still see if your laptops wireless connection can see the phone, sometimes the indicator does not show but it is active.
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I made a test and my wireless is not on.
i ment the rom, sry i deal with pc`s all day and it tends to stick.
yup update the rom, this may be your porblem, but make sure you do not update it on a vista pc, as it wont and you will end up stuck in boot loader mode. only update on a XP machine.
failing that its a buggered battery
Now I will not do anything that can make me reinstall my programs (as i have many). I am looking for some registry key, a checkbox, a process to be killed to solve the battery problem and leave the whole system inchanged.
I already have a solution, but I am not satisfied with it. Thgat is to make a hard reset no backup. Naturally, I will have to reinstall all my programs after that.
This solution has two bad points:
1. Reinstallation of all programs. That is a several days of work.
2. I will not know the reason of the failure. If the problem keeps returning in future, I will have to repeat the whole process again and again.
After the hard reset the meter works good, so I am syre that the battery is not buggered.
I am begining to wonder if you have a virus in it causing the problem? do you have any AV software?
what software do u have on it that will take several days to reinstall? there may be some compatablitly problems with the programs fighting for resorces.
and if you do a hard reset u may as well update the firmware.
i have just installed a new touch screen on my dads 2020i (his second in 3 months) and had to reinstall over 16 programs and that only took 30mins including removing and resoldering the new touch pannel. his backup battery is dead ;[.
McAfee VirusScan McAfee VirusScan
I tested my device with Airscanner Mobile AntiVirus Pro and McAfee VirusScan. They did not find anything, as I had expected.
I also made a hard reset to my device and switched my batteries several times. The device was recognizing them and showing correct information about their state. Both batteries worked long and short periods of time. So, the batteries are perfectly alive as well as computer hardware.
I use my PPC extensively, as we are not allowed to have pirate software on office computers. So I often prefer the Pocket PC to the Desktop one. I have more than 50 programs installed on my Pocket PC: maintenance tools, GPS programs with maps and waypoints, a reader, a player with plugins, a dictionary with the complicated installation procedure, some games. The list is not full. The setups for all of them are situated in different places. I would also have to copy my contacts and appointments. These are not hard jobs, but there is too many of them.
Besides, I am not as proficient as you, skeeve666.
If I don’t find a solution for my problem, I will reinstall my software in the weekend. That will help me to make rearrangements in it. By the way, do you know, where the newest firmware is? Anyway by looking for the answer to the battery question I learn more about my device.
Who knows, maybe I am lucky.
Moses_Ivanov said:
I tested my device with Airscanner Mobile AntiVirus Pro and McAfee VirusScan. They did not find anything, as I had expected.
I also made a hard reset to my device and switched my batteries several times. The device was recognizing them and showing correct information about their state. Both batteries worked long and short periods of time. So, the batteries are perfectly alive as well as computer hardware.
I use my PPC extensively, as we are not allowed to have pirate software on office computers. So I often prefer the Pocket PC to the Desktop one. I have more than 50 programs installed on my Pocket PC: maintenance tools, GPS programs with maps and waypoints, a reader, a player with plugins, a dictionary with the complicated installation procedure, some games. The list is not full. The setups for all of them are situated in different places. I would also have to copy my contacts and appointments. These are not hard jobs, but there is too many of them.
Besides, I am not as proficient as you, skeeve666.
If I don’t find a solution for my problem, I will reinstall my software in the weekend. That will help me to make rearrangements in it. By the way, do you know, where the newest firmware is? Anyway by looking for the answer to the battery question I learn more about my device.
Who knows, maybe I am lucky.
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like is said if you hard rest u may as well flash your firmware, and you said u hard reset.
why is this a problem? and no offensese and no need for you to take one, as you already have. but i realy dont see why you wont try this as you have already "factory reset" aka hard reset your phone. but after a reflash backups wont work.
as for the latest firmware just look in the update section. you must not update in vista only on a xp pc.
but after all this, it may just be a hard ware prob that only effects your battery monitoring
The reason why my battery was discharging so quickly is not known to anyone, including the staff of a service center. So, I made a backup of a faulty system (as a memory) and did a hard reset.
After a day of installing over 50 programs my computer is better than ever. I did not dare to install some other firmware but I placed as much data as possible to the Storage Card and now I have a maximum of 50 Mb free Program memory and 46 Mb of Storage memory. I upgraded some programs and improved the work of the other.
I am thankful to everyone who showed interest to my battery problem. I wish everyone good luck in using Qteks.
do you have a link to a 3600 mAh battery?
skeeve666 said:
i had a large capacity 3600mah battery and it was stuffed it would just lose all its juice instantly.
apart from getting a new bat, have you updated your firmware? or just reinstalling your firmware, there may a be prob with it.
but it does sound more likly that its time to buy a orbit
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Is that batterry much more thicker than original one? Could you upload a small photo to see how your device is look like with that battery installed?
Isteban said:
Is that batterry much more thicker than original one? Could you upload a small photo to see how your device is look like with that battery installed?
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unfortunaly this was a while ago, and that battery was set for recylcing, but it is alot more bulky it sticks out about 4-5mm i have gone with 3 original batteries just have to swap them out
I bought a 3600mAh battery from Hong Kong was about £9.99 if I remember right but it came with a new back to cover the thicker battery and that battery lasts me up to 48 hours provided I dont leave the screen turned on best thing I have done for it IMHO
did some digging and I put this in another post
think this is the link
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/battery_centre/
it cost £9.99 plus I think it was £4.99 P & P
I was just wondering if someone can test it out as well. Ok my situation is that I used to put my phone in standby with nothing on such as my phone looking for email every so minutes because I set those to manual. Don't have any programs running as well. Well when I would wake up my phone the battery would be drained substantially. Example of this was I had my phone at 100 percent charge, went to bed and when I woke up my phone wouldn't wake up so I popped out the battery, put it back in and 28 percent battery. I was like wtf I'm not even using my phone. Well I noticed that if I turn on my bluetooth the battery does not drain like it does when it's off. Kind of weird but I've tested this out and it works. I am using Shaps: 4.31 ROM English and Radio: 1.27.15.32 (I remember reading that this radio was a BETA but I've been using it for almost 2 months maybe more) I'm thinking about switching my radio for another one. Just wanted to let you guys know it's weird. I find myself keeping my bluetooth on all the time so the battery doesn't drain as fast. I can actually get a full days use of my phone now. Weird huh?
Yup - weird - I find exactly the opposite. I turn off my bluetooth when I do not specifically need it to SAVE my bettery.
Bill
I have an even different situation. Since I constantly use my bluetooth headset, I leave Bluetooth in the "On" mode all day and night. The thing is, I charged my battery until it was at 100%, left it on the counter (not charging) for the night (approx. 8-9 hours) and when I woke up, it was at 98%!
Keep in mind, Bluetooth and WiFi were both turned on. Good stuff.
Commas are your friend.
As it is, it's barely readable.
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I was just wondering if someone can test it out as well. Ok my situation is that I used to put my phone in standby with nothing on such as my phone looking for email every so minutes because I set those to manual. Don't have any programs running as well. Well when I would wake up my phone the battery would be drained substantially. Example of this was I had my phone at 100 percent charge, went to bed and when I woke up my phone wouldn't wake up so I popped out the battery, put it back in and 28 percent battery. I was like wtf I'm not even using my phone. Well I noticed that if I turn on my bluetooth the battery does not drain like it does when it's off. Kind of weird but I've tested this out and it works. I am using Shaps: 4.31 ROM English and Radio: 1.27.15.32 (I remember reading that this radio was a BETA but I've been using it for almost 2 months maybe more) I'm thinking about switching my radio for another one. Just wanted to let you guys know it's weird. I find myself keeping my bluetooth on all the time so the battery doesn't drain as fast. I can actually get a full days use of my phone now. Weird huh?
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If your battery is draining over night when your not using it, it's probably because you have something running in the background. You might have "closed" something and then it was actually still running. Try installing AlltheWay's task manager. This aids in making sure nothing is running in the background.
I'd upload the cab but I'm at work and don't have it.
Getting a full days use out of your phone is NOT something you should be happy about. I get 2 days with Wifi and Bluetooth use.
@ kamilzmielca: Your Wifi connection goes to sleep when your phone does, so your Wifi actually wasn't running over night.
gqstatus0685 said:
I was just wondering if someone can test it out as well. Ok my situation is that I used to put my phone in standby with nothing on such as my phone looking for email every so minutes because I set those to manual. Don't have any programs running as well. Well when I would wake up my phone the battery would be drained substantially. Example of this was I had my phone at 100 percent charge, went to bed and when I woke up my phone wouldn't wake up so I popped out the battery, put it back in and 28 percent battery. I was like wtf I'm not even using my phone. Well I noticed that if I turn on my bluetooth the battery does not drain like it does when it's off. Kind of weird but I've tested this out and it works. I am using Shaps: 4.31 ROM English and Radio: 1.27.15.32 (I remember reading that this radio was a BETA but I've been using it for almost 2 months maybe more) I'm thinking about switching my radio for another one. Just wanted to let you guys know it's weird. I find myself keeping my bluetooth on all the time so the battery doesn't drain as fast. I can actually get a full days use of my phone now. Weird huh?
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This could also be related to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
yeap, mine does the same thing, thought i was crazy, but with bluetooth on i save battery life.
Yeah man I thought I was going crazy also. To the previous poster all the programs are fully shut down. I've had many pda's (windows) and I am familiar with how they work. I fully shut everything down and then put it to sleep. Bluetooth seems to be extending my battery. Like I said before all my email I have setup in the phone I set so I manually have to send/receive instead of it looking for it at a predestined time. Nothing is automatically connecting (as in programs) I'll look a little deeper, it may be due to the radio version on my Kaiser. Any input on this guys?
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Yeah man I thought I was going crazy also. To the previous poster all the programs are fully shut down. I've had many pda's (windows) and I am familiar with how they work. I fully shut everything down and then put it to sleep. Bluetooth seems to be extending my battery. Like I said before all my email I have setup in the phone I set so I manually have to send/receive instead of it looking for it at a predestined time. Nothing is automatically connecting (as in programs) I'll look a little deeper, it may be due to the radio version on my Kaiser. Any input on this guys?
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you could try to measure the actual battery usage with "BatteryStatus" with and without bluetooth. Would be interesting to see the differences.
Maybe the bluetooth is slowly charging the phone when on through the radio waves! or some mad theory
I might give this a try as my phones lasts about a day atm
My phone lasts about a day at the most with full battery charge. 2 hour of talk time plus the other stuff I usually do. 2 days is crazy maybe you don't have as much programs on your phone so you use it less. (to the previous poster) I will get that battery program and do a test to see the difference.
another crazy idiot here: bluetooth on also gives me a longer battery life...
is this a joke from HCT??????
pietrucci said:
another crazy idiot here: bluetooth on also gives me a longer battery life...
is this a joke from HCT??????
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Your not crazy man! I'm doing a test now with BatteryStatus and notice that I actually get a lower mA reading with BT on. This is messed up.
When I fist read this thread I though everyone was nuts, now I think I've just entered the rubber room. lol
I could imagine, that some application or some part of the operation system is trying to communicate with the bluetooth stack. And when bluetooth is turned of, it tries it again and again. Where when bluetooth is turned on it justs recognizes, that bluetooth is on but no device is paired and doesn't bother any more.
Just an Idea. But it would be interesting to find out if this also happens with an absolutely clean device after hardreset. And if so, if this applys to all ROMs.
I mentioned in another thread, but I installed that new Google Search bar that came out the other day. It sits on your Today Page. Battery life went to heck when it was active. As soon as I disabled it, battery life improved. I'll try turning on BT. You never know.
Just an update.
I've flashed duttys new release (in my sig) and the mA reading is where its supposed to be (between 1-5) WITHOUT having bluetooth running. I'll test with BT on for a little and post back.
EDIT: With BT on I seem to have the same power drain as I would normally.... which is great cuz I usuall leave it on anyway.
This BT phenomena might have something to do with the flashed ROM you guys are using. I've got the standard HTC TyTN2 default ROM and BT on definitely sucks battery power more than without.
Very strange. I could even see it being possible...
With bluetooth on in standby it's doing sub-10mA (5-8mA). With the screen on, it's about 80mA to 100mA.
With bluetooth off in standby it's doing sub-10 again... maybe a little lower.... and with the screen on... still around 80mA.
Doesn't seem to be having the desired effect on my phone (stock O2 ROM), but then I can already get 2 days out of my phone without too many problems.
Now it only saves my battery granted if I'm not using a bluetooth headset. If i'm using bluetooth like via a headset it will drain fast. If I have it on but not using any Bluetooth devices it saves my battery.
Bluetooth on... wtf??
Hi all
... unbelievable, i test this on my device too, and i can confirm -> Bluetooth On (but not using it) saves my battery!!!
Info:
WM6 Pro CE 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM: 1.56.408.5
Radio: 1.27.12.11
It could be added to the Wiki!!!
the first week i had this it worked great, battery lasted maybe 3 days with minimal use. now with minimal use the battery is unpredictable. sometimes i'll charge it fully at maybe 10 am for example, not use it much at all, then by the time i wake up the next morning its dead. sometimes its even drained faster than that, wifi, bluetooth are not on, no programs running. sometimes i find that its very hot for no reason at all. i'm wondering if i need to take this back to the shop for repair---or if its something i dont; know about that i'm doing wrong? thanks for the help.
Do a search about RLOD in this forum. You will find some answers about this issue.
I notice my battery drains and the back of my phone get hot when I use the GPS. Maybe an application that you ran in the past is leaving the GPS connection open?
Have you tried a Hard Reset?
Just a thought
i don;t use gps, never had, probably never will since women cannot drive in ksa. as for a running program thats open, maybe but how can i find out which is open? according to my device nothing is open.
yeah i recently had that issue too, still investigating it.
So far im investigating:
-AE Button Plus
-Microsoft Voice Command 1.6
-Spb Mobile Shell 2.1
ever since i installed those, its been getting really hot during standby, and wakes up dead in the morning
Had the same problem. Hard reset solved it, it came back after installing my software again. I think it's S2U2, gave errors sometimes and wrecked my sound.
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and wakes up dead in the morning
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This happened to me the other day... Drained dead...........
Have not found reason yet!
I found out what was causing my issue a day ago, maybe related to yours too.
It turns out, AE button plus (when using a button to toggle wifi on aka wifitrigger) still stays connected even though u put the device to sleep. Wheras normally it would disconnect and try to reconnect on wake. However when you manually turn on wifi, instead of using ae button plus' wifi trigger allowed it to go back on its normal behavior.
AE Button WIFI on Standby
Yes, I noticed that the AE Button plus keeps WIFI on, even when on standby... Actually, even if I do it the normal way now, it stays on on standby, unless I change the setting back/forth in Kaisertweak...
Then when I run AE Button plus again, it messed up again.
Have you heard of a solution (one solution is to use another program to turn on/off WIFI ? I just emailed the author.
Hi guys,
Since I made the mistake of switching to DUO instead of the Tilt (yeah cast stones on me) when I updated "that one" to 6.1 the /WINDOWS file incredibly messed up. So much so that I felt a hard reset would work and reinstall 6.1 but instead I killed it on "Download Ready". Now I have to turn in my lil' POS to Pantech so they do that themselves. Bummer and no phone for 2 weeks.
Then I pull out my good ol' trusty Wizard but this one, unless I have it plugged in or hooked on the USB, it powers off and on constantly and goes back to original config (year 2006, and such). I NEED this phone as a loaner till I get the other one back. No use to have a cell phone that you can't use without cables.
I want to know if there is a fix to this, or if you guys think if updating this dinosaur (original everything, OS, WM, radio, etc.) to your latest and best(est) would fix this really annoying thing. Heck if you guys can fix this I might put the Duo in the corner for a while after it comes back...I got that SIM card and put it here and I can make and receive calls, the problem is it turning off and on constantly and deleting everything.
Now I will go back to my corner with my straightjacket. Thanks!
Hello there fellow Wizard owner. This is my first post on the website and I think I can help you out.
1) Try and leave your Wizard connected to the wall outlet for 1 hour. Then turn it on while plugged to the wall. See it will reboot. If it doesn't unplug it and see how long it lasts without it being plugged. If it reboots when it is unplogged it could mean your battery wont hold it's charge no more and all you need to do is get a new one. I went thru the same trouble last month and after testing everything under the sun I decided to replace the baterry and .. Viola!!! no more reboots for me.
I hope this helps.
Another questinon,
My notebook is Vista; my DH's is an XP. Which OS is safer to perform these changes? I found the thread where I can update the OS and to WM6 for newbies and I will try that first on XP.
One of (if not) the main reason the Duo got screwed up is that I tried to update it to 6.1 on Vista, when I was supposed to do this on XP (but don't tell anybody that they had TWO different instructions for BOTH OS's).
Cheerio.
Lol ... Yeah on my personal opinion if you are upgrading your Operating system use XP ... for some reason Vista freezes on me. And b4 you upgrade remember to read ALL the threads about upgrading your Wizard. Pretty much you can find all the answers on the search engine. And this guys are close to Gods when it comes to modding this "dinnosaour". I have pretty much messed my phone over 100 times .. I always look for the newer Rom and hacks and they guides they have here can help you with almost any known problem.
I know...I have taken apart mine FOUR TIMES and put it back together...two times b/c my daughter decided to dunk it in OJ!!!!!!!
Good thx for the advice I will fetch for a batt then...my DH will not hear me complain any longer I hope...
It's more than likely your battery.
When mine went - from a full charge to 60 % no issues, once it hit 59 % charge - the phone would cycle on and off until I pulled the battery - or stuck in back on the charger.
New battery - haven't had an issue since
Good luck
chicawhyte said:
I know...I have taken apart mine FOUR TIMES and put it back together...two times b/c my daughter decided to dunk it in OJ!!!!!!!
Good thx for the advice I will fetch for a batt then...my DH will not hear me complain any longer I hope...
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Hi,
Performed experiment as we agreed...turned it on @3pm (let it charge for more than 1 hr) and AS LONG AS I DID NOT MAKE A CALL it worked fine. Now it is having those seizures again. I can only stop it by taking the battery off, of course if I want to do that immediately. I dialed, when I was gonna send a page to my DH it went bipolar.
Now that is a reason why I believe it is not necessarily a battery issue but a software/hardware issue. I believe I will try upgrade software on this thing.
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It's more than likely your battery.
When mine went - from a full charge to 60 % no issues, once it hit 59 % charge - the phone would cycle on and off until I pulled the battery - or stuck in back on the charger.
New battery - haven't had an issue since
Good luck
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Did yours did this when making a call? I played games, fussed with the calendar, updated email settings, but nothing happened till I dialed.
Yep - usually when making a call.
Games, settings, etc take very little battery power - but phone calls take the brunt of the battery power.
Kind of like when they give you battery ratings - you will see four or five days of stand by time - but only 5 hours of talk time.
Like I said, for me - it was the battery.
Good luck
Same here battery was my problem. But if you still want to try to update. Make sure you charge the thone THRU wall adaptor then thru USB. If I remember correctly wizards wont charge a completely drained battery thru USB. And if during the update your phone starts to do the reboot dance it is 99.9% your batery then. Again GL.
Hello,
First of all, I'd like to apologise if I can't make myself understood because of my bad English writing.
The point is my Mi5 has started to randomly shuts down since about Nov 17' (just when the warranty expired since I got it Nov 16'...). I had Paranoid Android with the latest August china/global dev firm when it happened for the first time. I don't think it's a firmware/software problem, since it was with no reason and I tried several firm. and ROMs without success. I always wipe all partitions, if that's a problem as I read it could be.
The solution for me has been charging the phone for a few hours, then opening, disconecting and conecting battery 2 or 3 times and it works again. If I make sure the phone is always at 100% battery level, it works perfectly. Under 90%, it randomly shuts down at some point, maybe 80%, 70%... and I have to wait and make all the proccess again. I was monitoring the voltage levels with an app, and I realise that it was quite low for what it should be (from 4.45V to 4 V at 100%, and minimum is 3.85V...), and, when this values started to get under 3.85V, it's when randomly shuts down. Always when the phone is idle, by the way.
So I thought it was the battery. Get a new one (not original but...), installed, connect/disconnect wait etc... And the problem is still here. I don't know what else to do bes ide buying a new phone. Any ideas?
Sorry for this heavy text, and thanks in advance!