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found a commercial car kit

HI everyone, been reading th eforum for a while now, and the questions if car kits keeps comming up.
I managed to find one today online, looks ok, but needs professional installation.
here is the link ( and no, before you ask, I am nothing to do with the company, just came across it while looking for accessories for my new XDA)
http://www.directmobileaccessories.com/product_info.php/cPath/161_162/products_id/585
hope it's good!
Thanks
John

Product not found!

Sorry about that, if you look under O2 in the same page you will see it. Ever so sorry about that.
damn links!!

This is the O2 xda car kit
I ordered the kit from directmobileaccesories.com and it arrived yesterday, it is an O2 boxed xda car kit.
Everything works fine - except - I removed my old Nokia 9110 car kit which had a radio mute kit that feeds the phone through the car speakers, and tried to connect the radio mute from the O2 kit to the radio mute lead used by the Nokia car kit. When I place the xda in the cradle it immediately cuts over from the radio to the phone, even before the phone part of the xda is activated.
I have a radio mute on the steering console so I have temporarily disconnected the mute lead and fitted the speaker that came with the xda car kit.
Any suggestions why the radio mute cuts over straight away ?

Try making a call
Hi,
I have seen the same behaviour, it looks like the mute works reversed. If you make a call the radio will swotch on.
If this is your problem it should be easy to fix by using a small relay or something similiar.
Francois

the problem has resolved itself
the problem I had with the radio muting all the time has resolved itself, it now works perfectly.

XDA and GPS

I am thinking of getting an XDA to use incar for GPS. I have read some articles on this site but they all seem to approach the problem half way through. Can anyone suggest the best GPS device, cradle, software and anything else that is needed
thanx

gps for xda
try www.routeplanners.co.uk, or www.tomtom.com for the superb TomTom Navigator2 packages for XDA.
Good luck Chop!

You can try also:
http://www.pharosgps.com/products/phone/c_siemens_ppc.htm

There is plenty of useful information on:
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk

Zed,
I would consider buying one of the new generation XDA's (XDA II). They are supposedly equipped with bluetooth. The main advantage with this would be the possibility to buy a bluetooth GPS mouse, or a standalone bluetooth enabled GPS reciever.
The problem with the non-bluetooth GPS mice is their need to use the serialport at the bottom of the device to communicate. If you wan't a car mount kit with amplified speaker built into the back of the cradle, they are only sold as powered mounts which use the serialport for charging.
Thus you would have to use the GPS mouse with charging capabilities and let the charging dongle for the mount with amplified speaker hang loose.
Or you could buy a car mount without power, but then you would not have the amplified speaker functionality.
The amplified speaker functionality is great for spoken directions from some the map softwares available.
Here's a link to a car mount with amplifying speaker:
http://www.arkon.com/CM530.html
I have bought one of these, but I have not recieved it yet.
If you want a review, take a look at:
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29460&highlight=car*+mount
Here's a listing of GPS'es with prices and links:
http://www.gpspassion.com/en/hardware/gpslist.htm#Mouse GPS Receivers

GPS RECEIVER FOR XDAs
Have got a xdaII;
I first tried Tomtom bluetooth but often ecounter no power for long distance travelling. I sold it afterwards and switched to a wired solution with in car charger. It is perfect.
Details. pls. refer to the link below. It also works with Orange SPVM1000, Imate, MDA, IPAQ etc.
http://shop.wangtao.co.uk/info.aspx?ads=gps
Wish you will be successful in chosing one best suitable for you.

Your profile doesn't say what country you're in, and the answer varies by location. In the USA, Routis is a top-notch application for navigation. Pharos is absolute garbage. Deluo, the company that makes Routis also makes a very nice GPS receiver that works well with the XDA I and XDA II.
Bluetooth GPS receivers are rather silly, in my opinion. Totally pointless, since you need to power both the PDA and the GPS, so...you might as well wire them up. The Deluo kit has a nice arrangement with a lighter socket and a single cable up to the device to carry both power and the GPS data.

I would like to know how you get on with the Arkon, I have the same one and it is unusable, every time the phone changes to a different cell you get that doomp-de-doomp sound, when the phone rings the noise from the speaher due to direct rf breakthrough is absolutely atrocious and makes the system unusable.

First post - THB Bury problem

Hi,
This is my first post so please be easy on me
I am an ICT Engineer and I am having problems with one of my customers HTC Kaiser (re-badged as Orange TyTN II).
He has an THB Bury cradle. The Kaiser has TomTom installed (Orginal disc version 6 navigator), but when the phone is docked in the cradle it goes to Cra Kit profilr and he gets no sound from TomTom.
I have changed the profile, but still no sound from TomTom. I have checked the cradle it it works fine apart no sound for sat nav.
I have searched for hours on loads of forums to find a fix for this i.e. new ROM from Orange or patch from THB, but can't find anything.
Has anyone else had this problem and is there a fix i.e. registry alternation.

Is there anything within the TomTom settings for this.
It might be that this is the way it will work, afterall you do not want the TomTom coming out over the audio of the telephone call.

Thanks for the reply.
We used to use the Orange SPV M2000 (HTC BlueAngel) with TomTom using the same hands free kit (different cradle obviously) and never had a problem. The sat nav audio would work as normal, but when a call came in the sat nav would cut out until the call had finished.
I have have been through the TomTom settings (very limited) and cannot see anyway of changing the audio on it.
It seems more like a HTC Kaiser problem rather than TomTom or the cradle, because it worked fine with a BlueAngle.

Just found this on a THB Bury re-sellers site: -
"Please note: When the Phone is put into the cradle, the Phone will immediately go into car kit profile, which means the external speaker will be disabled [loss of sound for the Sat Nav directions]"
Is the registry hack to stop this happening?

Have you tried using the tomtom and checking there is audio working ok without putting it in the cradle?

Yep. TomTom works absolutly fine out of the cradle. I have even bought a new cradle to check if the original cradle was defect, but still no sound.
To summarise: -
TomTom audio working fine out of THB Bury HFK
TomTom stops working when in THB Bury HFK (enters Car Kit Profle)

Could you not move the handsfree cradle to maybe a vent mount solution so that when you are in the car you can view the TomTom directions instead of hearing them?
Personally I would find yor situation ideal as I hate SatNav voice commands and prefer to navigate from the map.

I got a response from THB Bury about this problem:
"Dear Alistair, many thanks for your enquiry regarding our Bury product range.
The Navigationcommand didn´t run over the carkit, because the Navigationsoftware got no software for muting.
Best regards
Dean Taylor
--Bury-Infoline-- "
Not really what I needed so.....
Does anyone know either how to doctor the USB connector so that it doesn't cause the phone to switch to 'car mode' OR a registry/software fix which stops the TnTY/Stellar from muting its internal speaker when in 'Car' mode?
Failing that I need a new car kit which, holds the phone, charges it, provides hands free phone service, allows TT6 audio instructions through and doesn't blow the USB port. Just like the THB Bury 'Universal' kit should do.
Any recommendations? Alistair

Niki and In Car Bluetooth

Hi Folks
I'm in the market for a new head unit. I'm wondering what your experiences are of the different BT kits and their handling of Telephony and Audio Streaming.
I'm down to 2 different HUs, does anyone have any experience of these with the Niki?
http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk/products/car/cd_receivers/KDC-W7541U/details/
http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/121/DEH-P700BT/media.html
How well does the Niki work with in car BT (especially with the above if poss)?
I would love to be able to use 2 simultaneous BT devices, is it possible?
What is your experience/advice?
tia
Mav

I use the Sony MEX-BT2500 - it's brilliant, no problems at all. Pick one up on ebay for around £80, you'll be amazed. They did have them in Halfords a while ago too. You wont have any issues with either unit you've mentioned.
I also have a Holux GPS GR-239 for SatNav, and this pairs up fine at the same time, as does other devices I've tried, so no worries for you, I'm sure.

Well, I went with the Kenwood, http://www.kenwood-electronics.co.uk...7541U/details/
Great unit, and the HF function is fine. It will not stream audio though
Still, 4GB USB stick is well good enough for what I need

Motorola t 505 - Google it. I bought this a couple of months ago and it is the best FM Transmitter I have ever used. The signal is so strong that I hardley ever hear any static, even if I am streaming to a live radio station. I use mine every day as I am always on the road for my job - average 5 hours a day connected through bluetooth and streaming music from my phone to my stereo using the FM transmitter and only have to charge the thing once a week. This is the best one I have found so far and I have tried dozens of different ones.
Also - No interferance from the phone when you get a call unlike many of the other FM Transmitters I have tried - (NO Buzzing at all like you can sometimes get when phone call comes through when your phone is near a speaker or using a cheap fm transmitter) I use mine with my HTC Touch and Love it.
This would be strictly for your car though so if you are looking for headset to use out of the car as well, I guess this won't help.
I jsut realized you were talking head unit but you still might be interested in this product as it may save you money rather then buying a new stereo - Unless your current stereo really sucks, then happy shopping and I hope you find what you are looking for.
Before I bought mine, I was able to test it and make sure it worked well with my phone - Which it did - If you are able to convince them to let you pair it with your device and test how well it works, I would suggest you do just to make sure you will be satisfied with your purchase.

hotrod101 said:
I jsut realized you were talking head unit but you still might be interested in this product as it may save you money rather then buying a new stereo - Unless your current stereo really sucks, then happy shopping and I hope you find what you are looking for.
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Thanks chap, but my old stereo really sucked and needed an update.
I don't need to stream from the phone now I can use USB sticks and the HF phone works great.

Nexus one and car bluetooth

Hi
I have been trying to pair my N1 to my nissan altima 2008 bose bluetooth system but it wouldn't pair. I tried countless number Of times but it won't work.
Does anyone else have this problem?

I think I read in the Google Nexus One forum that there are issues with Nissan/Infiniti cars and the bluetooth of the Nexus one.

hmmm... I have got mine paired with Chinese all in one DVD/SATNAV/DTV unit... it works very well.. It even automatically switches on the unit when It detects a bluetooth signals from my paired Nexus One....

Well, Im guessing its something to do with compatibility with the Nissan Bose Unit. Because I also had a difficulty pairing my Previous G1, But ONLY after updating to Donut 1.6. It eventually connected but after many many tries.
I have beeen doing some googling about this and it seems that many users are having problems pairing with different cars with 1.6 and above.

Weees said:
Well, Im guessing its something to do with compatibility with the Nissan Bose Unit. Because I also had a difficulty pairing my Previous G1, But ONLY after updating to Donut 1.6. It eventually connected but after many many tries.
I have beeen doing some googling about this and it seems that many users are having problems pairing with different cars with 1.6 and above.
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Well the other option you have is to change your car... and get a car which is compatible with Nexus One...

see here: http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ct&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
this issue is known to carry through android 2.0 and 2.1.

I have the 2010 Mazda 3 sport with the Bose package and it pairs fine.

jeffokada81 said:
I have the 2010 Mazda 3 sport with the Bose package and it pairs fine.
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Yeah, I have the 2010 Mazda 3i touring and no problems either.

ID have a kenwood deck in my mazda and all works good. is there some kind of factory reset switch on your stereo, that's what I have to do t get new phones working on mine.

I have a Parrot Mki9100 and I have some problems...when I am on the car my Nexus One connect itslef with the Parrot, but it disconnect and try to reconnect many times. At the end it stops trying...
So every time I have to go to Settings->BT->Long press on Parrot device and click connect. After that it works...very annoing...

Hm... I have an '08 Infiniti G37 with the Bose system and it pairs and works just as well as it did with my G1. I would have assumed that Nissan is using the same or a similar unit for the audio system for most of their cars.

Mazda 6 gt-m 2009 here, BT carkit has no probs with the N1
Tried to pair it with the parrot in my gf's car, but same probs as described by other users. Seems it's the Parrot; my iphone had issues with it as well.
Ah well, i'd rather drive my car then hers, so good excuse to use mine

I dont get how they end up making things worse by upgrading rather than making things better !!! I mean according to : http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ct&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
This problem has been known since 1.6 and I can defenitly confirm that since It took me forever to pair my G1 previously. But with my N1 , it just never pairs, so they even made it worse. Such an important option, you would think Google would have fixed it in 2.0 but to drag it to 2.1. This is just messed up.

That is very frustrating.
@OP, someone mentioned changing your car to accommodate your nexus one, that sounds like a great idea, but if you can't get it to work you can always go with a bluetooth add on option.
At Volkswagen there were some phones that were not connecting with the manufacturer add on and customers were pissed because they paid over $400 for the option. Another thing just as bad is purchasing the unit and not being able to use the bluetooth steering wheel controls because of compatibility issues.
My conclusion is that there are too many products out there and sometimes they are just not compatible with each other. In this case it sucks that it was your car...or should I say your phone?

Well, the Nexus connects fine to my VW premium bluetooth (from 2005) but the cars system can not access the phonebook.
Not even the sim contacts which the HTC Hero could do.....
Google support suggested importing the sim contacts into the Nexus.
I wonder if they read the mails before they answer....

I've always found OEM bluetooth to be pretty uncompatible, and yet to see an update for one.
I've got a kenwood unit, which works with my steering controls, connects handsfree and audio when I turn on my ignition, and it syncs the phone book fine, showing the callers name when the phone rings. (it cost £80....) and I updated it (it's a parrot bluetooth unit in there) from my laptop via bletooth.
The N1 works best of all the phones I've had (6 htc's in 3 years) with it.

I never had an issue with my old g1...until I flashed a 2.0 ROM. Everything pairs fine, music player worked, stereo would switch over, but no sound came from speakers on phone calls. Now my nexus is the same way. I've asked Cyanogen if he would be kind enought to look into it and hopefully he will.

My N1 (locked bootloader, not rooted) routes the audio just fine, did it work before you cyanogened it?

ck3100
Wel I tried to connect my N1 to the parrot ck3100. it will see it fine, but the moment I try to link it it says paring failed. Anybody had any better luck with the ck3100 and N1?

mgymnop said:
Yeah, I have the 2010 Mazda 3i touring and no problems either.
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I've got a 2010 Mazda 3 sport - it pairs/plays fine etc with my Nexus, but the person on the other end of the line always complains that I sound *really* quiet. I never had that problem with my G1. Do you get any complaints?