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WinCE on PC

Don't double click on it or you'll have a very weird PC :shock: .
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This is a part of a reply to a registry question in general forum. It's a warning against importing win CE registry to the PC by mistake. The idea reminded me of something I read on a site called "Computer stupidities" .
http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_os.shtml
There's one there about a guy who's laptop got to heavy, so he installed CE on it to make it lighter, they just don’t specify how he did it… :lol:

That quote was from me - I don't recall if PCs still permit importing by double clicking, but it's wise to apply a reg hack on your PC to make the default function for reg files to be open in notepad, just in case. I was once feeling particularly malicious and removed the "shell" line from the registry and it caused all manner of screw ups. So screwing with your registry is bad... I highly recommend you run Erunt.
Re weird PCs, anyone know what happened to WinCE on the XBOX?
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Vj, I apologize if the quote offended you, and I will edit the message if you want. The point you made is completely valid and I agree with it 100%.
The idea of CE and PC put together in one sentence simply reminded me of some silliness I thought might be good for a laugh or two so I posted the link.

Oh absolutely not offended! Just that the original question worried me slightly: how do I view/print off a reg file exported from the PDA, on a PC.
The number of ROM dumps and reg files that I play with on my pc at 5am, I've nearly been there, ending up with some kinda Frankenstinian PCA :shock:
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Actually, Frankenstinian, some times works.
Personal example: Motorola SM56 PCI modem in P4 computer running XP pro. SP2.
The driver Motorola provides on their site always gave code 10 (cannot start), but when I installed the driver for win 2000 and deleted one exe that sat in the tray and controlled some options I can live without, it worked perfectly.
In fact, so far I didn't notice any instability, or problems sending faxes and stuff.
PS. Important note to whom ever might take this post as an example: when doing stuff like this be prepared to have to format your hard drive.

vijay555 said:
Oh absolutely not offended! Just that the original question worried me slightly: how do I view/print off a reg file exported from the PDA, on a PC.
The number of ROM dumps and reg files that I play with on my pc at 5am, I've nearly been there, ending up with some kinda Frankenstinian PCA :shock:
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Tsk, assign .reg files to notepad, but do import one once with regedit.
Doubleclick-> edit in notepad
Rightclick - open with regedit -> import

Simple Yes or No.. MediaNet PPU charges

I have mediaNet unlimited... I just upgraded to the 2.23 rom by summiter which in the connections it shows "myISP" and not mediaNet......
Will I get charged Pay-Per-Usage?

There is no simple answer to is. Using My ISP or Media Net (the only difference is the use of proxy server) does not matter to the billing. I use My ISP all the time w/o being charged PPU. First, make sure PPU is not showing up on your account features. Many times, CSR will forget to take it off when adding Media Net or even PDA connection. Secondly, don't over use the data. If your data usage stands out, Cingular will definitely take a close look at your account and decide you should use Media Net plan and slam you with PPU.

Thanks for the reply.
I think that I will just flash back to the summiter 2.17 rom. I know that I didnt get the PPU charge on it. (just as a precaution) I am almost certain it had MEdiaNet in it in.
let me ask this... is thier a cingular CAB file that will set up the settings ?

why not just use the medianet profile as default if you are worried about it? the settings are in there, just not as default.

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why not just use the medianet profile as default if you are worried about it? the settings are in there, just not as default.
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I didnt see it at all. dunno

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see what I mean?

You need call and ask them remove that PPU from your account. You're being charged PPU right now.

foxbat121 said:
You need call and ask them remove that PPU from your account. You're being charged PPU right now.
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Agreed... I just loaded the 2.17 rom and all is good now.. the proxy and all that good stuff is in there.

Again, I and many others don't use proxy server because of Wi-Fi issues. As long as PPU feature is not on your account, it really doesn't matter you use proxy server or not. You need call CSR to remove that *feature* from your account regardless. Sooner or later, it will bite you with a huge bill even if you're using proxy server.

Internet Fails Me

I live in a 3G area, and ever since I've started using Custom ROM's, I've noticed that while I can get on pIE and surf the web at regular speeds, programs like Skype cannot access MEdia Net (I've got a Tilt). I've searched around the forum, and I've been unable to find out why only pIE can access a data connection. This also applies to the Windows Mobile email. Thanks

You may have to Able/Disable the proxy settings. Run a forum search on AT&T Proxy settings.

I've checked everything, and my AT&T proxies are correctly configured. Everything is right as far as I can tell. But when I try and get my email through the default outlook thing, it says "Synchronization Error" and then a popup comes up saying that it cant connect with my current settings.

Have you tried this?
Depending on the ROM you may also have to install the default Media Net settings found in a separate CAB.

I've already installed that cab to no avail :O

Sorry.....
OK! Then I'm of no use to you as I have no other answer than flashing back to the OEM ROM. I haven't ran into that problem so my experience at fixing it is limited. Have you tried searching the WIKI or G.W.E.N.I.?

Yeah. I'm still researching. You use an OEM ROM?

My 8525 got a new ROM every week but my Tilt is still stock ROM... I'm happy with how it is for now. Waiting on the official 6.1 to come out and then go from there.
Good luck.....

thanks. I hope I get this sorted out

It fails you huh?
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Any how, on to the subject at hand. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Network. What are both set to? If you select MEdia Net and Click Edit. Then go to Proxy Settings What does it say>

I had the same problem with email
Here's what I did:
Hit the message key.
Click on the email you want to check (yahoo, aol, gmail, etc...)(must already be set up)
Click Menu
Go to Tools
Click Options
Choose the account you want to change
Click Edit account setup
Hit next 4 times until you get to a screen where it says Outgoing (SMTP) mail server
At the bottom of that screen it says "Advanced Server Settings" Click it
Where it says network connection select "MEdia Net"
Click done
Click next until it says Finish
Then go back to the email you just changed and try to download your email again.

Let us know if the above post fixes your problem and then add **Solved** to the title of this thread.... I'm curious to know.....
Thanks, j1981bl1

I got the problem fixed. After reflashing the ROM about 10000 times, I figured out that manually creating the network connection to wap.cingular instead of isp.cingular fixed the problem. Thanks everyone for the help

westsider_gw said:
I got the problem fixed. After reflashing the ROM about 10000 times, I figured out that manually creating the network connection to wap.cingular instead of isp.cingular fixed the problem. Thanks everyone for the help
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isp.cingular, I believe is for Tethering plans. And just regular MEdia Net uses wap.cingular. I think I remembered that correctly. If not someone will correct me.

HTC Battery Drainage Bug (Possible Fix)

Hello,
This is my first attempt at .NET CF programming. It is in reference to this thread.
It attempts to cycle the power to the GPS hardware eight times (at 200ms intervals) by calling GPSOpenDevice() and GPSCloseDevice().
It also shows the raw information provided by GetSystemPowerStatusEx2() if you need to troubleshoot your battery.
I'm not sure that it works, but it attempts to do programmatically what is described in the thread link above.
Full source code is included. I think it is also a great tutorial VB.NET project for anyone wanting to learn how to read the power on their device.
Please let me know what you think, and if it even works towards being a workaround for the HTC/Qualcomm chip standby-power drain bug. If it does work, I'll improve it (add autorun/exit-after capability, systray, etc..)
To use this without dealing with VS2005/compiling/etc, just copy HQPowerFix.exe from the bin/Release folder (in the zip) to your device (anywhere) and run it from there.
Note: These images are from my development machine. They look different on the device:
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Nice idea! But it seems would be useful to cycle gps state not a fixed amount of times, but based on result of battery drainage (if it's below the certain level, the fix was succeed and no need to cycle gps anymore).
Also it would be useful to create a "command-line mode", when the program is starting and doing the fix without user interference. When done, it makes possible to launch iGo and this program from one script file, to implement the fix automatically after exit from iGo.

I found the MSDN documentation on the SYSTEM_POWER_STATUS_EX2 structure:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa926903.aspx.
It seems I didn't properly implement this structure's usage in my code, so I am planning to fix it tonight when I get home from the office.
@Vladimyr: That's a great idea, I do plan on doing that if this program turns out to be worthwhile and actually do the GPS power-drain fix as intended. Once I figure out how to more accurately read the mV/mA metrics, I will start working on that.
I'm also now working on a front-end/back-end for controlling a Car PC from a Pocket PC.. I think an older iPaq is cheaper than a Lilliput touchscreen
--W5i2

weasel5i2 said:
I found the MSDN documentation on the SYSTEM_POWER_STATUS_EX2 structure:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa926903.aspx.
It seems I didn't properly implement this structure's usage in my code, so I am planning to fix it tonight when I get home from the office.
@Vladimyr: That's a great idea, I do plan on doing that if this program turns out to be worthwhile and actually do the GPS power-drain fix as intended. Once I figure out how to more accurately read the mV/mA metrics, I will start working on that.
I'm also now working on a front-end/back-end for controlling a Car PC from a Pocket PC.. I think an older iPaq is cheaper than a Lilliput touchscreen
--W5i2
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Any updates to your program? Also, is it possible to edit the thread title and put GPS in it? I'd been meaning to reference back to this one and it took me a while to find it.

HAVE ANYONE TRIED THIS ALREADY?
DID IT FIX THE PROBLEM?
weasel5i2 said:
Hello,
This is my first attempt at .NET CF programming. It is in reference to this thread.
It attempts to cycle the power to the GPS hardware eight times (at 200ms intervals) by calling GPSOpenDevice() and GPSCloseDevice().
It also shows the raw information provided by GetSystemPowerStatusEx2() if you need to troubleshoot your battery.
I'm not sure that it works, but it attempts to do programmatically what is described in the thread link above.
Full source code is included. I think it is also a great tutorial VB.NET project for anyone wanting to learn how to read the power on their device.
Please let me know what you think, and if it even works towards being a workaround for the HTC/Qualcomm chip standby-power drain bug. If it does work, I'll improve it (add autorun/exit-after capability, systray, etc..)
To use this without dealing with VS2005/compiling/etc, just copy HQPowerFix.exe from the bin/Release folder (in the zip) to your device (anywhere) and run it from there.
Note: These images are from my development machine. They look different on the device:
Regards,
--Weasel5i2
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Doesnt work but nice idea

Why is my TD2 randomly connecting to the internet?

Hi guys!
Could anyone please explain to me, why, although all "data-eating" features are disabled, my phone from time to time is constantly connecting to the internet? Push internet is disabled, automatic weather updates disabled, opera not working, mail receiving set to manual, etc, and it still tries to connect!!! What for??? Is there a way to prevent it without using heavy artillery like "nodata"? Generally, I'd like to understand why the bastard is doing it and feel secure that my phone is not secretly using a data connection in my pocket

Is it quick gps?

Could use some logging program to see what comms it is doing I spose?
I'm new to Win Mob so I don't have a name for one atm, but should be possible to google.

Discovered the same phenomenon, my device was surfing the web for more than 4 hours yesterday before I discovered. I disconnected the connection manually, after 10 minutes it was surfing again. T-Mobile says: Windows Mobile is doing it, there is no way of preventing it, but upon request they would terminate my mobile internet for good to "solve" the problem. I wonder what these people smoke these days....
Greetings, Studebaker

me too yesterday, just installed nodata...

Hello,
I am new one to WM, but I was wondering about it few days and I can say that you can stop it.
1. - you need to stop PUSH Pages in Internet - this is the most important, because I had there 5 pages prepared for Push internet and they were loading every 6 hours
2. stop Push Email
3. of course you can stop Quick GPS, but it is connecting once a week
You need to shut down the browser through the Exit command not only the corner cross.
After that it is not connecting

hummel999 said:
You need to shut down the browser through the Exit command not only the corner cross.
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Yes, I've been wondering what's the good of 'exiting' Opera when you really haven't exited it at all. Why would HTC want to hide Opera from the taskmanager when it's really still running? It doesn't make sense.
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I want Opera back in my taskmanager!

robinVerdegaal said:
Yes, I've been wondering what's the good of 'exiting' Opera when you really haven't exited it at all. Why would HTC want to hide Opera from the taskmanager when it's really still running? It doesn't make sense.
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It's Opera itself declaring itself to be a background process. There are many of these running all the time. I've just cleared all the items from the 'task manager' in the top corner of the UI, yet my device still has 20 tasks running.

andyturner said:
It's Opera itself declaring itself to be a background process. There are many of these running all the time. I've just cleared all the items from the 'task manager' in the top corner of the UI, yet my device still has 20 tasks running.
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So you're saying it's not TF3D in my TD2 that's making the difference, but the version of Opera that differs from the one on my TD1?

robinVerdegaal said:
So you're saying it's not TF3D in my TD2 that's making the difference, but the version of Opera that differs from the one on my TD1?
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I suspect so. It'll be remaining in the background in order to do the push internet stuff I reckon.

You can remove it from the "System Exception List" under:
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\Opera9.exe
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\OperaL.exe
I just renamed these keys to:
Opera9.exe_
and OperaL.exe_
Restart the device afterwards!!!!
Regards Thorsten

Mr-Fly said:
You can remove it from the "System Exception List" under:
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\Opera9.exe
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\OperaL.exe
I just renamed these keys to:
Opera9.exe_
and OperaL.exe_
Restart the device afterwards!!!!
Regards Thorsten
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thanks for this tip..now my memory accumulation from 70% drops down to 49%.. so i got more apps to play with..

grabejud said:
thanks for this tip..now my memory accumulation from 70% drops down to 49%.. so i got more apps to play with..
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though i noticed that when i run back opera, it stays on the background again. cant even kill it even in sktools