Hi guys!
Could anyone please explain to me, why, although all "data-eating" features are disabled, my phone from time to time is constantly connecting to the internet? Push internet is disabled, automatic weather updates disabled, opera not working, mail receiving set to manual, etc, and it still tries to connect!!! What for??? Is there a way to prevent it without using heavy artillery like "nodata"? Generally, I'd like to understand why the bastard is doing it and feel secure that my phone is not secretly using a data connection in my pocket
Is it quick gps?
Could use some logging program to see what comms it is doing I spose?
I'm new to Win Mob so I don't have a name for one atm, but should be possible to google.
Discovered the same phenomenon, my device was surfing the web for more than 4 hours yesterday before I discovered. I disconnected the connection manually, after 10 minutes it was surfing again. T-Mobile says: Windows Mobile is doing it, there is no way of preventing it, but upon request they would terminate my mobile internet for good to "solve" the problem. I wonder what these people smoke these days....
Greetings, Studebaker
me too yesterday, just installed nodata...
Hello,
I am new one to WM, but I was wondering about it few days and I can say that you can stop it.
1. - you need to stop PUSH Pages in Internet - this is the most important, because I had there 5 pages prepared for Push internet and they were loading every 6 hours
2. stop Push Email
3. of course you can stop Quick GPS, but it is connecting once a week
You need to shut down the browser through the Exit command not only the corner cross.
After that it is not connecting
hummel999 said:
You need to shut down the browser through the Exit command not only the corner cross.
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Yes, I've been wondering what's the good of 'exiting' Opera when you really haven't exited it at all. Why would HTC want to hide Opera from the taskmanager when it's really still running? It doesn't make sense.
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I want Opera back in my taskmanager!
robinVerdegaal said:
Yes, I've been wondering what's the good of 'exiting' Opera when you really haven't exited it at all. Why would HTC want to hide Opera from the taskmanager when it's really still running? It doesn't make sense.
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It's Opera itself declaring itself to be a background process. There are many of these running all the time. I've just cleared all the items from the 'task manager' in the top corner of the UI, yet my device still has 20 tasks running.
andyturner said:
It's Opera itself declaring itself to be a background process. There are many of these running all the time. I've just cleared all the items from the 'task manager' in the top corner of the UI, yet my device still has 20 tasks running.
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So you're saying it's not TF3D in my TD2 that's making the difference, but the version of Opera that differs from the one on my TD1?
robinVerdegaal said:
So you're saying it's not TF3D in my TD2 that's making the difference, but the version of Opera that differs from the one on my TD1?
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I suspect so. It'll be remaining in the background in order to do the push internet stuff I reckon.
You can remove it from the "System Exception List" under:
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\Opera9.exe
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\OperaL.exe
I just renamed these keys to:
Opera9.exe_
and OperaL.exe_
Restart the device afterwards!!!!
Regards Thorsten
Mr-Fly said:
You can remove it from the "System Exception List" under:
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\Opera9.exe
HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\OperaL.exe
I just renamed these keys to:
Opera9.exe_
and OperaL.exe_
Restart the device afterwards!!!!
Regards Thorsten
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thanks for this tip..now my memory accumulation from 70% drops down to 49%.. so i got more apps to play with..
grabejud said:
thanks for this tip..now my memory accumulation from 70% drops down to 49%.. so i got more apps to play with..
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though i noticed that when i run back opera, it stays on the background again. cant even kill it even in sktools
Related
how many Mb of free RAM do you have on your wings after a reboot ?
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Isnt it sad? I have restarted my phone and was reading morning news for a while... I have only 15 MB free after start up (some process in background). I often get out of memory exception, programs cant paint graphics (can only acces menu), programs closing after while. My older smartphone (Qtek 8500) has much bigger RAM.
I have to have several restarts a day.
I believe its a real shame on htc
I have program 15.29mb and storage 18.87mb
what do yyou have installed that you have only 2mb free ram?
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what do yyou have installed that you have only 2mb free ram?
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Just run and close Resco Explorer, Gentimer and few other programs. Then checked mails and started read rss and open links in internet explorer.
I have like 12MB free after restart- DontForget 2.0 is in the autostart, that's it
It's so damn sad. Is there gonna be a solution?!
I install most of the programs on my storage card and why would you have all that open at one time? close it when you are finished and open another one!!!
after hardreset, and the first time you you see my today screen, after 3 seconds the phone will start to install application. well I soft reset my phone before that and so I end up with more free space!
Is this a problem? Was just thinking about getting one but i don't like this RAM issue.
Is it a problem at all?
well it's an issue to me, not being able to launch as many apps as I used to launch with my vox is a real problem. Especially since i'm a big messenger user so I have to let skype and IM+ running in background all the time.
As there is no such thing as ram extention in this kind of phone, I'm considering returning the phone. Which is a shame because apart from that i'm quite happy with it.
I fount this!
nicname: 10332007 wrote:
It is definately a must have. The memory clear tool works like a charm. Using the built in task manager it clears me up from 3 - 5 megs after some heavy use in many programs. Right after that I went into its memory cleaner and it put me up to 15 free in less than a second. Not a lot free but its just about as high as anyone has seen which makes it very usable. And SK tools has a bunch of other really good built in tools.
I'll mirror it for a little while and edit in a link to where I downloaded it from. I am heading out and dont have the time to dig it up right now.
http://www.ripskin.net/sktoolslite.exe thats the exe off my hdd which I used to install, hope that helps. Must have application for everyone.
Isn't this function already in the SmartToolKit?
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Isn't this function already in the SmartToolKit?
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It looks like that has a built in task manager that is performing better than the stock one from what other users have said, (about the alpha 4 version) However it could work better if not just as well as the one I posted about in that other forum.
The biggest difference I can see between the two applications is Smart Toolkit looks like more of a GUI update to windows with a possible update to how task manager works. SkTools is just a program designed to clean up the phone, registry, memory, space and such by finding things your phone doesnt need and deleting them.
I just found an updated release from Nov 13th which I might download and put on to see how well it works Being able to organize my start menu would greatly help lol, the default is such a disorganized mess.
rooomish said:
I fount this!
http://www.ripskin.net/sktoolslite.exe thats the exe off my hdd which I used to install, hope that helps. Must have application for everyone.
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I agree! The 'official' version is here: http://s-k-tools.com/sktools/sktoolslite.zip
I've put a link to the FreeUP RAM app in my start menu and use Auto SoftReset to reboot the phone at 3am every day. Seems to be working ok - when I unlock the phone in the morning it reports around 17MB free after cleaning things up.
I've had a few lockups though - usually when trying to set up Facade or Papyrus. I think I'll leave them off for now. It's a shame - except for this, and the restrictive OS compared to PPC (or WM6 Pro or whatever it's called today), it's a great phone! Having HSDPA is brill!
This is NOT a solution. Can this issue be solved with ROM update?
A.Bagatov said:
This is NOT a solution. Can this issue be solved with ROM update?
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I rly rly rly hope so, I so wanna buy this phone but I cant let myself do that while this RAM issue is there, I prolly gonna wanna run alot of programs at the same time so...
How much RAM
Hi. I'm having the same RAM issues, but how much free RAM is smartphones supposed to have? It's annoying having to think about having enough memory all the time.
update...
tweaking in progress... (it could be even a bit higher but the screenshot software and task manager take some memory)
moneytoo said:
tweaking in progress... (it could be even a bit higher but the screenshot software and task manager take some memory)
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Nice! Keep us posted.
I live in a 3G area, and ever since I've started using Custom ROM's, I've noticed that while I can get on pIE and surf the web at regular speeds, programs like Skype cannot access MEdia Net (I've got a Tilt). I've searched around the forum, and I've been unable to find out why only pIE can access a data connection. This also applies to the Windows Mobile email. Thanks
You may have to Able/Disable the proxy settings. Run a forum search on AT&T Proxy settings.
I've checked everything, and my AT&T proxies are correctly configured. Everything is right as far as I can tell. But when I try and get my email through the default outlook thing, it says "Synchronization Error" and then a popup comes up saying that it cant connect with my current settings.
Have you tried this?
Depending on the ROM you may also have to install the default Media Net settings found in a separate CAB.
I've already installed that cab to no avail :O
Sorry.....
OK! Then I'm of no use to you as I have no other answer than flashing back to the OEM ROM. I haven't ran into that problem so my experience at fixing it is limited. Have you tried searching the WIKI or G.W.E.N.I.?
Yeah. I'm still researching. You use an OEM ROM?
My 8525 got a new ROM every week but my Tilt is still stock ROM... I'm happy with how it is for now. Waiting on the official 6.1 to come out and then go from there.
Good luck.....
thanks. I hope I get this sorted out
It fails you huh?
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Any how, on to the subject at hand. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Network. What are both set to? If you select MEdia Net and Click Edit. Then go to Proxy Settings What does it say>
I had the same problem with email
Here's what I did:
Hit the message key.
Click on the email you want to check (yahoo, aol, gmail, etc...)(must already be set up)
Click Menu
Go to Tools
Click Options
Choose the account you want to change
Click Edit account setup
Hit next 4 times until you get to a screen where it says Outgoing (SMTP) mail server
At the bottom of that screen it says "Advanced Server Settings" Click it
Where it says network connection select "MEdia Net"
Click done
Click next until it says Finish
Then go back to the email you just changed and try to download your email again.
Let us know if the above post fixes your problem and then add **Solved** to the title of this thread.... I'm curious to know.....
Thanks, j1981bl1
I got the problem fixed. After reflashing the ROM about 10000 times, I figured out that manually creating the network connection to wap.cingular instead of isp.cingular fixed the problem. Thanks everyone for the help
westsider_gw said:
I got the problem fixed. After reflashing the ROM about 10000 times, I figured out that manually creating the network connection to wap.cingular instead of isp.cingular fixed the problem. Thanks everyone for the help
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isp.cingular, I believe is for Tethering plans. And just regular MEdia Net uses wap.cingular. I think I remembered that correctly. If not someone will correct me.
Dear all,
My Storage Card keeps disappearing after a while. Can't get it back other than by hard-resetting the device.
I've rebuild the phone several times now, and after a few hours incl. some warm-reboots, it's not able to recognise the SDCard anymore. Another problem which I figured out is that it disables RAPI too, which makes connecting with ActiveSync impossible. Luckily I was able to build an enableRAPI.cab file, which enables it (which I sent by mail to my phone!)...Well... Anyone that knows what this might be caused by?
Regards,
Nika.
PS. This started when I started to use the new ROM (see signature), but I think it's a general issue, maybe caused by UC or other programs installed by UC, or myself (after restarting)...
Hi all,
I have figured out that this is caused by Exchange policies (after my first Activesync Sync) pushed to my mobile! I have no idea how to change them back, going to try to figure that out now...
Any thoughts?
Regards,
Nika.
Dear all,
I figured it out. This was caused by the "enforce security settings" which can be done by Microsoft Exchange push-mail.
I got the following message:
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I hadn't realised before, but this caused my phone to be inaccessible for ActiveSync (RAPI was disabled) too, and made my StorageCard disappear.
When I realised this I started my investigation on Microsoft Exchange. I opened the Exchange Management Console:
And then I opened the Default Properties, and changed to the Sync Settings tab:
Here I turned on all options, resynced the phone, rebooted and all my issues were solved
Kind Regards,
Nika.
For those of you interested in the rest of the Exchange Security Policy settings, here's screenprints of the other tabs:
Regards,
Nika.
thanks
Nice info
many thanks, this helps much ppl...
Cheers
Lol, thanks. You wouldn't want to know how many times I reinstalled my phone due to this (thank god for Sleuth's UC!!), so I really hope this thread will help people struggling with the same problems if they arise...
Regards,
Nika.
Cert fixed my problem
I noticed that your Exchange 2007 settings had the "Allow nonprovisional devices..." setting still enabled. This was initially the setting I changed in our Exchange 2007 environment that made the difference, however, as others have suggested, this was an unacceptable long term solution and likely not even a possibility if you're not the Exchange Admin.
The solution for me was to export the cert (the same one that is used when logging into your Outlook Webmail) and install the cert on the phone.
The problems described in this thread only became an issue for me when I upgraded to 6.1. I kept the same radio 1.48 so I know it wasn't a radio issue in my case.
I switched the nonprovisional setting off once I installed my cert and the device has had no problems syncing ever since. Compromising policy and security is never the best solution (although still a solution sometimes) so I hope this helps some of you in the same boat as I was in.
Did you have to enable the options on the 'Device' tab as well as I would pretty much want all them features enabled ?
This worries me a bit as my company is about to upgrade to Exchange 2007 and they don't consult users before enabling things like this. I currently use BlackBerry Connect but would prefer to move to native ActiveSync since BBC has some other issues. If it means they are going to lock out all the functionality of my Kaiser then I'll not bother. I'll have to wait and see...
Andy
I reset my Tilt according to this link to get rid of AT$T bloatware according to this http://www.pocketables.net/2008/01/10-tips-on-fixi.html
The phone reacted much faster afterwords but PIE is having problems: links aren't high lighted, pictures aren't shown and when I try to download programs I get the "no permissions" error
Anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this? Don't suggest Opera 9.5, as I tried to install this from a download on this forum and the installation froze after 20K
never ran into this .. don't know why ur installation of opera got stuck.. i have a copy of the opera mobile build by gsleon3 in my 4shared acct: link in sig. try that one and u should get a install. also take a look at opera mini. i prefer it over pie and opera 9.5.
Awsome you said to do what he asked you not to.
Did you verify your connection settings for media net or whatever it is that you use?
ChumleyEX said:
Awsome you said to do what he asked you not to.
Did you verify your connection settings for media net or whatever it is that you use?
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thanks for the productive reply. my reason for suggesting was simply because he might have downloaded a bad cab or something of that sort. the build i recommended is a port from vga over to kaiser by gsleon3 and so far people who have used it are running it w/o problem.
and i don't think his isp settings are bad as he is only having this problem in pie; not in all data apps, or atleast he didn't mention he does.
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thanks for the productive reply. my reason for suggesting was simply because he might have downloaded a bad cab or something of that sort. the build i recommended is a port from vga over to kaiser by gsleon3 and so far people who have used it are running it w/o problem.
and i don't think his isp settings are bad as he is only having this problem in pie; not in all data apps, or atleast he didn't mention he does.
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Do be too mad at Sir Chums. He's just mad because the Score is Jimmy -1 Chumley - 1. And I'm going to get the lead!
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ACTUALLLY dear friend, he does mention a problem with data, he can't download opera. Also, how is you trying to help with opera helpful to this post. At least I'm starting at ground one by having him check the settings. I would say make sure it's plugged in first but of course this is a wireless device.
oldfossil did you installed the advanced config stuff which allows you to save temp internet files to the SD card? If so make sure it's saving to the phone.
Jimmy
I'm sure after your father digs mine up, he will be too tired to fight back. The vault and coffen are quite heavy.
Mine's Bigger
Ouch, I got stuck in a flame war!
Thanks for the replies.
I am pretty much clueless about newer systems (ergo the "oldfossil"). My brain is stuck in the days of pre GUI's when I did my programming and system building so it takes me a little time to figure stuff out in newer systems.
thesire: I couldn't find Opera in your 4share. I want to use Opera mobile or PIE over opera mini because mini doesn't allow secure connections.
So, my MediaNet is set to connect to the network using MediaNet. Is this correct? Should it be AT&T ISP? I can connect to the internet, I just don't get full content.
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thesire: I couldn't find Opera in your 4share. I want to use Opera mobile or PIE over opera mini because mini doesn't allow secure connections.
So, my MediaNet is set to connect to the network using MediaNet. Is this correct? Should it be AT&T ISP? I can connect to the internet, I just don't get full content.
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don't worry about your medianet settings they are fine.
Here is the cab for opera (its under the cabs folder)
http://www.4shared.com/file/5001468...126__Uninstallable__WM5_Compatible__QVGA.html
i would suggest downloading it on your pc and copy to your storage card (if you have one) and run them cab from there.
yes let's just forget your problem. It's ok.
chumley did u read what he posted ????
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I can connect to the internet, I just don't get full content.
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obviously problem w/browser not data connection. instaed of trying to argue read what the op is posting and help him.
OK you two. Sir Chums, The Sire, lets act like the adults we are. The benefit of a forum setting like this is people will come up with different answers.
Maybe Chumley is thinking of something in the Data Settings that the OP forgot. Maybe Proxy. Who knows the Proxy Causes weird issues.
And for TheSire, yes he asked about PIE but if he gets Opera working he won't have to worry about the PIE issue.
Thanks for more feedback.
I actually got Opera 9.5 working and have installed mini also. IE still doesn't give full content (some links are active, others are not; pics not shown).
An issue with Opera 9.5: When I try to log into my gmail account I get a blank white screen. Any settings/fixes I should be aware of?
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Thanks for more feedback.
I actually got Opera 9.5 working and have installed mini also. IE still doesn't give full content (some links are active, others are not; pics not shown).
An issue with Opera 9.5: When I try to log into my gmail account I get a blank white screen. Any settings/fixes I should be aware of?
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I don't have that problem. The only solution I can give is to "Go around it"
Which is Download the Gmail.jar and install that in your Midlet Manager, which I believe you have since you installed Opera Mini.
anyone successfully tethered their tilt with wm6.1?
Absolutely. I do it daily (without a tethering plan even). What kind of problems are you having?
How?
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Absolutely. I do it daily (without a tethering plan even).
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Can you share how? I hate paying lots of extra bucks for tethering. I use it extensively and download a lot of stuff.
Jim
I hate reading another redundant thread regarding media net and teathering
wireless tethering with WMWiFiRouter is the best way to go. Google it and download.
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wireless tethering with WMWiFiRouter is the best way to go. Google it and download.
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I second that.... I am using Version 1.25 although there is an update to V1.30. I do not want to update since the version I have works flawlessly and I am used to it.
super easy, use file explorer or whatever software you use that does the same thing, go into the phones "windows" folder, go down to the program called internet sharing, copy it. Now go to you folder in the windows folder called "start menu" then "programs" now paste the program here or one of the subfolders. DO NOT PASTE SHORTCUT. now you should be able to go under start menu programs and start the program. You will probably notice that it says something like at&t isp, change that to media net, conect to your computer and press the tab that sais connect and you should be golden.
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then don't read it. no one is forcing you to. and allot of people don't have time to sit there and spend hours going through the many other posts that are not what they are looking for.
kemp509 - You rock! Works like a charm. I'm using it as I type this message. I can't wait to use it the next time I'm out of WiFi range.
BTW - I tested my speeds at http://www.speedtest.net/ and it turns out that my AT&T network has faster download speed then my home broadband by 35%! Upload was the same.
Wow...
I guess on my side my mobile connection won't equal my home connection anytime soon
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This may be a stupid thing but I get so far and then it wont connect. I get a "Connect Bluetooth Connection" screen asking me for a username and password. What am I doing wrong?
works great
Hey kemp thanks man it works like a charm.. So am i safe from ATT seeing i am useing my laptop. Dont want to see that terhering charge pop up on my bill lol?