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Which soft can be instaed of TCPMP on Official WM 6.1 ?

Hey Bros,
I already Up my Kaiser to WM 6.1 ( Ver 3.08 of Vodafone UK ), The biggest trouble is TCPMP can't run on WM 6.1. Any one know which media player can run on WM 6.1. Please tell me and others, Thanks !

Hmz, I have Windows Mobile 6.1 and I can use TCMP

xmoo said:
Hmz, I have Windows Mobile 6.1 and I can use TCMP
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Yes, I See. Your device's OS not Official ROM. Its cooked ROM from Dutty!

DivX Player from www.divx.com (requires registration but is free, pretty fast and quality is ok, the interface is VERY basic though and it only plays MPEG4-based stuff).
CorePlayer from www.coreplayer.com (costs money but works like a charm, with DCS 1.1 ROM and CorePlayer 1.1.3 I can play all XviD movies except HR-stuff without dropped frames or sync problems).
PocketTV from www.pockettv.com (requires registration but "classic" version is free, "enterprise version is 15 bucks but supports more advanced options and acceleration. only works with MPEG/MPEG2 but is really fast and quite a high quality.)
Personally I just use CorePlayer 1.1.3 for now and I will surely upgrade to 1.2 once it arrives.

is it possible to still use the flashvideobundle with coreplayer?

xzon said:
is it possible to still use the flashvideobundle with coreplayer?
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For me it is.

mkford said:
Yes, I See. Your device's OS not Official ROM. Its cooked ROM from Dutty!
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Yes but TCMP was not INCLUDED!!!!

I Also See , I Can install TCPMP on WM 6.1 my self but it does not RUN. May be the OS Have no needed runtime Library for running !
Thanks all, I'll try others and feedback soon!

mkford said:
I Also See , I Can install TCPMP on WM 6.1 my self but it does not RUN. May be the OS Have no needed runtime Library for running !
Thanks all, I'll try others and feedback soon!
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Try to install mine version. Just came back from the GYM and I played music for 3 hours with TCMP.

I'm using Alex's UltraClean WM6.1 Beta2 and I have no problem installing and using TCMP 0.72. Played about 3-4 hours of music on it now, and tested a few videos.

Nope, even that one doesn't work on the official build of 6.1 I have.
"Unexpected program failure. Please send "crash.txt" to the developers. Program will now exit."

Apparantly it works on some of the WM6.1 ROMs and not on others. It doesnt on DCS v1.3, that I can confirm. Irritating to lack proper .flv support (which is really the most important for me personally). CorePlayer, DivX Player and whatnot is totaly irrelevant, because its the youtube streaming abilities that I find most fun. Streaming via StreamingMedia just sucks compared to TCPMP, also it only work over GPRS/EDGE/3G.

CorePlayer 1.1.3 is the best choice for insteading of TCPMP on my device with WM 6.1.
Thanks all!

For Use with youtube
I've found that TCPMP does not work on my particular 6.1 ROM. Try using http://tinytube.net instead of youtube. Unfortunately the interface and selection aren't as robust as youtube, but it pulls streams from multiple sources (google, yahoo, myspace, etc) and has a decent search engine. All streams end up going through the Streaming Media app.

xmoo said:
Try to install mine version. Just came back from the GYM and I played music for 3 hours with TCMP.
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The rom U use , the Dutty 6.1 beta is based on a older build that can use older radio and TCMP works.
The later builds cant use TCMP and must have any of the the newer radio.
Carlis

i need to get some application like TCPMP, in TCPMP i can turn off screen and still rewind song in pocket do you know something what have that function and run on official HTC wm6.1 rom??

TCPMP is a great player. I have it working in a WM6.1 19701 Build. Sometimes it takes a little finesse to get it working. I've added the correct cabs to this reply.
Make sure you do the following:
Put both files in the same place (either on the storage card or in main memory). I put them both on the storage card.
After you install each cab file, do a soft reset. (Make sure you remove any previous version before adding either cab).
Make sure you are going to the correct URL - www.youtube.com/?nomobile=1
It should work for you. It's the best player out there.
Oh, I almost forgot. I did have to install NET CF3.5 on one of my devices before it worked. I'm not sure if it was coincidence or necessary.
Also make sure that "flash video" is selected in Options/Settings/Select Page/File Associations in TCPMP.

or you can use this recompiled version of tcpmp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387

@ XtreMe_G: Thanks. That one works fine on the official HTC 6.1

smartphone tcpmp i downloaded from here crashes on wm6.1 on q9c

Software Showcase

Hey everyone! I'm relatively new here and just thought i might start up a thread in which we can all post our software configurations on our Phones (Kaiser/TyTnII/Tilt/etc.). I'd really like to know what applications you all use and which ones you would recommend. Well I'll be the first to go .
FTouchFlo 1.4.1 (I really like this nifty little thing, gives you the ability to call up your Cube by a swipe of the finger)
SCLPC++ 0.051 (This is great for when you only have one hand free and need to quickly call someone or run an app, I use SCLPC++ Configurator along with it)
VTap Video (Great free Mobile video streaming program)
Microsoft LiveSearch (Excellent to find out..anything lol)
GoogleMaps Mobile (Great if you want a free gps navigator, has worked real good for me so far along with LiveSearch)
JBed3D (How many of you can resist a little 3d gaming on the go?)
PHM RegEdit (Nifty little free registry editor)
TCPMP + FlashVideoBundle (Great if you want to stream video or audio from websites, works great with YTPocket.com)
Bejeweled 2, Madden NFL, Tradewinds 2 (Some great games to play on the go imho)
MobiTV (Nice program for watching TV on your mobile)
Now to ask for a few recommendations, I need a good Large Digital Clock for my Today screen and an advanced task manager. Besides those i really would like to know any and all software everyone uses on their phones .

Everything I have listed in my signature is what I can't live without.

Pocket Controller Pro sounds Dirty.
Oh Oh do we get name tags and special fun markers? I call dibs on reb and blue first. Oh and I think it would be super sweet if we were all wearing matching shirts.
I couldn't like without Google Maps (yeah I download my maps, I'm not a cheap @#[email protected]#d) and TCPMP for my youtube/eskimotube lovin. Oh and lets not forget SiriusWM5 .. Gotta hear that Howard Stern.
BaBaBooie BaBaBooie

This is a good free digital clock for your home screen. Uses a pittance of memory as well.
Link

Oh man with sirius wm5 thing makes my days fly by at work.
I dont have all the revision numbers infront of me.
Dopewars, pocket irc, googlemaps, sirius, morphware emulator (millipede 2fingafun), sPd, ifonz, ereader, tcpmp, yahoo go 2.0, illum listpro, spybot.

Are You a Gamer?

And do you flash roms? if so you probably already know that some of your games no longer work, im talking about games that use Direct Draw. Quake, Quake 2, Duke Nukem. I havn't stuck with one of these roms long enough to try out any other games, so those 3 are the only ones I can confirm. Depending on if you have error reporting turned on, here is what happens when you try to launch one of these games;
you tap the .exe, it will start to load up and appear to be working, but as soon as any graphics are produced it closes. It may bring up the error report screen and you can send this report to microsoft. If you have this disabled then of corse there is no error report.
It seems that the wm6.1 roms and Diamond based roms out there dont support direct draw.
Currently I'm running Dutty's 4/29 rom and it's the most stable, it supports Direct draw. It's a WM6.1 Rom, however it was released BEFORE the official WM6.1 was released, this may have something to do with it.
my main concern is people aren't aware of this issue, and recently the OpenGL drivers are being developed and ran on the Kaiser. OpenGL opens a whole new door for us gamers! (hopefully). However when this OpenGL roms are available to us, and don't support DirectDraw, that just CLOSES half of those doors .
What's the point of an OpenGL rom if that same rom doesnt support DirectDraw?
Roms not support direct draw: (please add on to this list)
ROMeOSv2.3
[24 June] HyperDragon III WM6.1 WWE ROM 19588 - 19591 (Diamond ROM)
[Jun 07] Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588
[June 25] L26_KaiserDiamond_V9 (and other L_26 roms)
[June 18] Death V4 Business edition
WM6.1 ATT 214 ROM _ Ryncppr Version V5 _ DIAMOND APPEAL
I have not been able to test EVERY rom out there, and im sure the rest of you guys can help me add on to this list. but it seems a good number of new roms dont support it.

And yes I've noticed it too. Doesn't the GBA emulators like Pocketgba and Snes emulators use DirectDraw too? It would help a lot if it were fixed. Even with the OpenGL drivers I doubt we would still be able to play these emulators at full speed.

I can confirm games like Quake and Duke not running on my 6.1 roms. I'm currently using the one in my sig so that can be added to the list. I have also tried Duttys Diamond rom, and a few L26 roms and can confirm they didn't work on there either. Warcraft II does work however, and all my emulators play just fine.

I can play Doom, PocketNestorPlus, and PocketSNES just fine. Using the configuration listed in my sig. Dunno if that helps or not...

eknutson said:
I can play Doom, PocketNestorPlus, and PocketSNES just fine. Using the configuration listed in my sig. Dunno if that helps or not...
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doom PocketNesterPlus, and PocketSNES worked for me as well, I'm not sure what they use for graphics.

Hey mikeeey, have you read my reply here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2347820&postcount=642

"im talking about games that use Direct Draw. Quake, Quake 2, Duke Nukem."
non of those games in their normal form use directdraw at all
they run on very old wm2000 devices too
and even in their dos versions the dident use any form of hardware acceleration
well later on they came in opengl versions but never dx

So the ddraw.dll built into all of those ROMS are broken?
Have you tried writing a test ddraw app to isolate if ddraw.dll is broken, or the way it's being used is bad?

Rudegar said:
"im talking about games that use Direct Draw. Quake, Quake 2, Duke Nukem."
non of those games in their normal form use directdraw at all
they run on very old wm2000 devices too
and even in their dos versions the dident use any form of hardware acceleration
well later on they came in opengl versions but never dx
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then what in the new roms are making these games not work?

sakajati said:
Hey mikeeey, have you read my reply here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2347820&postcount=642
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[Engine Setup]
UsingGapi = 0
yes this does switch it so it uses Gapi, but I had Gapi turned off for a reason, the reason being it crashed more. For example while playng duke, on the first level, if you look at the pool table it crashes for some reason, same with the orange lighting at the end of the level.

mikeeey said:
[Engine Setup]
UsingGapi = 0
yes this does switch it so it uses Gapi, but I had Gapi turned off for a reason, the reason being it crashed more. For example while playng duke, on the first level, if you look at the pool table it crashes for some reason, same with the orange lighting at the end of the level.
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So using this setting the game will load, but it basically renders the game unplayable?

Pocket nes For Nintendo perfection plays most nes games.
Pico Drive for Sega Genesis. Plays them well with and without sound. some games better than others
Burner for Neo-Geo/cps1/cps2 games. I like this one.. choppy with sound, Great with out. Due to the my tilt being underpowered. its choppy with sound for now.
PocketSnes for Snes games. it works. It really works.. play with the settings to see what fits you. Due to the underpowered tilt.
I think i hit the best ones for the systems i listed above...i am sure this topic has been brought up in this forum before.. Please refer the search button on your top menu bar. It is located three buttons in from you light side.. Please feel free to Use this anytime.

i keep changing Roms because of this problem... i know that. If i can get my games running full speed on my wizard. IT really sucks because i know this **** is capable with so much more.... I mean there was a direct draw type program that was floating around. Its just a project tho....
all i know

"then what in the new roms are making these games not work?"
sounds like it i can still play them using wm6.1 on my himalaya but then it's not a full 6.1 i guess some of the core is prob of later date
also the ATI IMAGEON 3200 dont do 3d acceleration only a bit of 2d and video

So im just wondering why developers havn't found a way to not use the wm6.1 core, but still use the wm6.1 Diamond drivers and such..

I talked to dutty about the issue.
he says it's the new drivers that HTC released in the new wm6.1, it's some weird problem with landscape cleartype. I will flash a new rom and disable landscape cleartype and see if it helps.
it just seems slowly we have to disable more and more to get things worked (ex. A-GPS, sometimes HTC Home, now cleartype)
atleast we know the problem now!

mikeeey have you seen this yet? Quake 3 on the Diamond! Running very very slow but hey, it runs!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405722

ahhh! no!!!
then that means with the OpenGL drivers for the Kaiser it may run at 2fps.
on my kaiser Quake 3 already runs between 1-3fps. mainly around 2fps.

see this is one of the main reasons im sticking to the most updated WM6 version until the updated and bug fixed 6.1 roms come ou for att or tmobile...once these directdraw and opengl / gps problems are fixed I don't see the need too upgrade 2 6.1 and have HALF my applications not work anymore when ALL of them work right now.

mikeeey said:
So im just wondering why developers havn't found a way to not use the wm6.1 core, but still use the wm6.1 Diamond drivers and such..
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what about shoguns d3d driver cab i am using it on duttys hybrid 19716 6.1 rom and i can play pocketgba with sound and some of the games are very playable

Diamond games compatibility and speed

Hi, I think that almost everyone want to play some game on his phone. So, I will test some of them, and post here results, and problems. Most of all, I test demos or freeware games, so actually full game results may by different. I hope this will be helpfull for you.

ofcourse it will be helpfull
thx

So, I prepared some games to test, I will test them later becouse I am still serching info about two PDAMill games. These games are Snails Reloaded (just QVGA) and Anthelion 2 (QVGA and VGA version). For some reason, these games runs much slower on Diamond than on brother´s Asus P535 when its CPU is set to 200MHz! Yes, 200MHz outperform in these games our 528MHZ one. I assume that this is due to incompatibility with WM 6.1. But it is strange. On PDA Mill site, they say that WM 6 is supported. Maybe WM 6.1 or combination of WM 6.1 + VGA is the problem. I dont know. Yes, you can run these games, but at speed of snail. Firts I thought that maybe transform from QVGA to VGA is the problem, but Anthelion 2 has VGA version too, and this VGA version was as laggy as QVGA version. If you think that Anthleion is 3D game, and Diamond maybe just cannot handle 3D, it is wrong. Even menu in this game is stupidly laggy, concretelly transtions in menu. And Snails Reloaded act just like Anthelion 2, and they are just 2D game. But I forgott that VS Bench on our devices is very good 2500+ points, that this isnt due to slow Diamond CPU. (VS Bench of Asus P535 is in 520 MHz mode 2300 points and on 200 MHz mode only about 1000 and it still outperform Dimand) .
So, for now I can say that you can play these games, but prepare yourself for laggy game experience.
Next game I tried is Duke Nukem 3D - this is even worst - becouse you can not even run it. After loading, screen goes black, and you must restart it. This is bad news, becouse I liked Duke Nukem 3D on PC, and I played it a lot on my previous WM 5 phone. This game doesent like VGA or WM 6.1.
And for now last one: Call Of Duty mobile. This nice 3D Game runs great, you will get even better framerate than previously mentioned Asus P535 in 520 MHz mode. Still, this game is not smooth, but definattely playable. First game which runs on Diamond slightly better than on P535 (520MHZ adjustable CPU).
More games speed and copatibility info will be here soon.

Nice work keep it up , may want to put them in a list format , with links to the games as well
For ref Age of Empires Gold Edition, Works fine on the Diamond

One question: Where can I buy a licence key to have a full verion of Age of Empires Gold Edition?
Fred

Yes, I know. For now, I will add games just as new replys, but I will make some list in future, when more games will be tested. I can add links, if you want, but remember that most apps I am testing are demo versions, but some freeware will be there too.

Has anyone tried bejeweled 2 yet? I don't wanna install mines until my screen protector arrives!!

best game ever bejeweled 2

I Have Working:
My Little Thank - Just some problems to acess the register screen but works
Solitaire City - Works Fine
SkyForce Rel. - Does not work
Skyforce - Does not work
Bejeweled 2 - Works
Rocket mania - Works
Tradewinds 2 - Works
Insane Aquaium Deluxe - Works

Dielmann said:
One question: Where can I buy a licence key to have a full verion of Age of Empires Gold Edition?
Fred
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IIRC, you cna't - it's long been abandoned.

Siruss said:
SkyForce Rel. - Does not work
Skyforce - Does not work
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Did you contact the developer? It's working just greta on all my other VGA devices, incl. WM6.1 ones - that is, it must be incompatible with the Qualcomm chipset.

Double post - bad connection - sorry

Pocket Heroes - works great
Leomnade Inc.- works but can't get pass the beginning menu
Tombraider - seems to work, as I can't get pass the menu because of missing hardware buttons
Lemmings 1.0 - the screen is black but I can hear the music
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
Worms - work great but luck of hw buttons (can't shot, jump and so one)
Houseofdead 3d - works but slow
Poket Quake - shows menu but the game is blank window
Transport Tycoon - stucks on loading screen

koven said:
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
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is that 3D_Asphalt_3.jar ? under Jblend v3.2.8 20061016c, it ran full screen on VGA; see the compatibility chart in my MIDlet Bible.

no it's PPC game (*.cab)

Hi Pokvitek, May be the reason for not working / poorly working games on Diamond compared to other (older) VGA devices is that the Games are developed for Open GL processing whereas our Diamond has seperate Qtc processing (the 3D accelerator chip)...
Can anyone put more light on this??

Anyone use or know of a good NES emulator. I would kill to have mario, master blaster, etc on my diamond.
thanks

If anyone would like to have an really good Lemmings Port, look here:
CAB: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/PocketLemmings.cab
If problems occured with moved grafics or similar, then exchange this .EXE: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/LemmingsCE.exe
YouTube Movie: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=11_bG6--h6U
Level AddOns ZIP: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~zeppenfe/files/LemPack_Custom.zip
Thats the first Port ive seen, that leans on the original game, with full levels from "Lemmings" and "Oh No More Lemmings". All you really need, is the "main.dat" file from your (hopefully ) original Lemmings...

I dont know, I personally think that Open GL is not the issue. Anyway, some games dont work due to WM 6.1, some due to VGA, and some due to problem that nobody knows. Qualcomm chipset has ARM 11 operation CPU, so this should not be problem. About Skyforce, I have not a solution, but an idea. I found something interesting. We all know spb benchmark, and with new ROM Diamond has in graphics about 1600 points. This bench can not use Hardware acceleration, so this must be result of just 528 MHz Main CPU. Now, point is that i thought that Diamond grapics index is low due to WM 6.1, but I found other phones running WM 6.1, and they had graphics index about 3000, with 400MHZ CPU. So, I was sad, becous it seemed that Diamond is just piece of crap. THEN I found something interesting, graphic index of IPaQ 214 - WM 6.1 VGA device, with 624 MHz Marvell Monahan 310 CPU. His grphic index was about 1600 too. So, device of this strenght, like IpaQ 214 definnetelly is, should outperform Diamond. So, I guess, that there is something. I dont know what, but I am sure that is.

koven said:
Pocket Heroes - works great
Leomnade Inc.- works but can't get pass the beginning menu
Tombraider - seems to work, as I can't get pass the menu because of missing hardware buttons
Lemmings 1.0 - the screen is black but I can hear the music
Asphalt 3d - runs on 1/5 of the screen
Worms - work great but luck of hw buttons (can't shot, jump and so one)
Houseofdead 3d - works but slow
Poket Quake - shows menu but the game is blank window
Transport Tycoon - stucks on loading screen
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WORMS: there is a patch available to assign the sound up and sound down buttons to jump and backflip. then evrything works
NES emulators do not work properly because the lack of hardware buttons. the onscreen buttons do not work very well.

Micropool 2007 on Diamond

Hi first!
i want to play Micropool 2007 (
http://www.handango.de/servlet/d/micropoolv4.1demosetup.exe?s=8&p=201396&secw=3e2942dd&email=
)on my diamond but it doesn't work. When i start the game a failure window opens. Does anyone here already play the game on his diamond? If yes, then let me know how!
Thanks!
cheers
Daniel

Had the same problem, but it did start once or twice for me, didn't persist with it and uninstalled it.
Anyone know of a Pool/Snooker/Billiards game that is in true VGA ?
I've become such a VGA snob since owning the diamond

I think that Virtual Pool Mobile is a VGA game.
A demo is available here http://www.celeris.com/games/VPMobile/overview.html
You can't see it on the screenshots on their site, but it looks better when you play it on a Diamond. I have attached an image of it.

Pool House is also quite a good game

doesn't anyone made to run the game on his diamond? i doesn't have the knowledge to fix my problem because this is my first wm device! I also talked to the developer of the game, but he doesn't have a solution at all! On his Glofiish X650 (also a vga device) the game runs!

leien said:
I think that Virtual Pool Mobile is a VGA game.
A demo is available here http://www.celeris.com/games/VPMobile/overview.html
You can't see it on the screenshots on their site, but it looks better when you play it on a Diamond. I have attached an image of it.
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I second that, used to use Micropool on all my other Windows Mobile phones but Virtual Pool does look and play really well on the Diamond
Good find.

Micropool 2007 - downloaded demo, tested - very smooth gameplay, runs perfectly OK, with no lag or error.

pokevitek said:
Micropool 2007 - downloaded demo, tested - very smooth gameplay, runs perfectly OK, with no lag or error.
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Which version do you have and how did you made it? I hope you also have a diamond ;-)