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iv just hard reset my phone to clear off all the programs & rubbish id accumulated over the last month of having my phone. When i hard reset it, will i have cleared hardSPL etc, or am i alright just flashing duttys rom again straight away?
cheers guys
anyone? thanks
Everytime I´ve made a hard reset with a custom rom it has stayed there and the HardSPL as well. If I´m not mistaken you will not go back to stock rom because you´ve overwrtitten it with the custom rom and thefore the custom rom will boot up again BUT with all settings, installed programs and other changes you´ve made cleared. So if you had Duttys rom and made a hard reset you will still have Duttys rom.
I reset the device by going into settings, system and then clear data and afaik it has reset it to the HTF default, cant see any mention of duttys ROM. Also noticed the phone to be much much slower.
is it likely to be the HTC ROM or duttys ROM that im currently left with?
hardspl stays... thats why its called hardspl. it resists hard resets.
thanks for the response, just what i wanted to hear!
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thanks for the response, just what i wanted to hear!
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no problem may i recommend kaiser wiki? so u can learn more about ur device.
many people recomend that you do a hard reset after flashing a new ROM:
1-why?
2-does it really improve anything are there any people who think that this is a myth? ive even seen people claming that this solved their battery drange problem
3- whats the difference between a freshly flashed rom and a hard reset device?
4-when exactly is the best time: after the flash directly or after the first reboot when the phone finishes installing stuff from extended memory?
I'm wondering the same thing...
Me too
but i've heard that there can be some "rests" of the old rom after flashing a new.
And the hard reset clears the whole memory, so the system is "clean".
If I'm wrong tell me how it is right.
Personally, I don't believe this. I never did and never have a problem.
the argument is that a rom image (that you flash) doesn't always fill the entire memory space so there's a chance that some of the arrays could contain old data as the RUU doesn't clear the space first.
It doesn't hurt to hard reset whether this scenario happens or not, just hold the hardkeys down during first boot after it comes out of bootloader ..
jackleung said:
Personally, I don't believe this. I never did and never have a problem.
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the plot thickens
even the cooks thinks its not worthwhile
ill do it anyway (even if its a myth) since there is no need to wait for the rom to boot for the first time and no extra time is needed as fards says
From my experience, you really need to hard reset itje's touchit roms. I'm not sure why, but when I didn't hard reset, the device felt really really slow. This is very noticeable. After the hard reset, everything will be fast again.
I'm using jack's lite rom now, but I don't find that you need to hard reset on this rom.
i also never hard reset my device after a rom upgrade. never had problems.
ive tested my self acouple times tryin a rom for a day then hard reseting and see no difference in file structure, (backups) or registry (reg dump and compare)
so i do not hard reset my device after a hard reset
shadowmike said:
so i do not hard reset my device after a hard reset
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ummmm!!!... ok
i had tons of strange problems when i didnt do a hardreset after the flash.
software didnt work, icons were missing, phone didnt worked at all and so son. all problems were usualy fixed after a hardreset.
+1 for the not really worth it but do it anyway on the xperia (even in itje roms)
if this poll was on the wizard forum, im sure everybody will say its a MUST. so far only %30 here think its worth doing
yeah its a bit weird that only %30 think its worthwhile considering the number of people who do it when you read the itje ROM thread
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yeah its a bit weird that only %30 think its worthwhile considering the number of people who do it when you read the itje ROM thread
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many people use and think hard reset is equal to push the stylus into the soft reset hole...
I recommend hard-reset after flash...
It happens so many times that when ppl flashing my roms, and get bugs that I dont have, or many others dont have..
And what has been the sollution for many??? Hard-reset...suddenly they report back that it fixed their issue??
And how can ya'll "non-hard-spls-belivers" explain that?
But no matter what..
If you feel it helps, so do it
If you think it wont help...then dont
ah, and one thing more...
If you flash only the same build, basicly same roms, just with minor updates, then hard-reset after flash might not be needed cause the conflicting residue in nand might not conflict with the new flash...
perhaps just speculations and sci-fi....
But I will recommend hard-spl for any new flash, untill someone can hardcore prove the opposite...
but as said before...ya'll do what you want
itje said:
But I will recommend hard-spl for any new flash, untill someone can hardcore prove the opposite...
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I always recomend hard-spl for flashing new firmware, but thats off topic
I'll do everytime after flashed a new rom. 宁可信其有，不可信其无,believe it just cost you press some keys together, lol
fards said:
the argument is that a rom image (that you flash) doesn't always fill the entire memory space so there's a chance that some of the arrays could contain old data as the RUU doesn't clear the space first. It doesn't hurt to hard reset whether this scenario happens or not, just hold the hardkeys down during first boot after it comes out of bootloader ..
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After flashing, during the first boot, there already IS something that looks like a hard reset. Something like "auto-hard-reset". Therefore allow me to ask you 3 questions please:
1. Is this "auto-hard-reset" similar to the manual hard reset(when we push simultaneously left, right and soft reset key, or via Start>Settings>System>Clear Storage)?
2. What exactly did you mean in your quote(its part that I've marked bold)? I've never heard anything about holding any keys DURING the first boot. Everywhere is written: "Make hard reset AFTER you flash." Or maybe I missed something?
3. What if NOT to wait for this "auto-hard-reset", and just manually, BEFORE it happens, make an HR(pushing simultaneously left, right and soft reset key) in time when firmware splash screen is showed? It would save the time... but is it harmless?
Thank you very much for your answers!
itje said:
But I will recommend hard-spl for any new flash, untill someone can hardcore prove the opposite...
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Hey Itje, did you really mean hard spl?
Posting just to not let my question gone forever in thousands of new threads Hope you'll answer it. Thank you very much.
Der_Immitanz_konverter said:
Hey Itje, did you really mean hard spl?
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guess was just a typo, he means hard-reset
I recently got myself an X1, and I have to honestly say, its brill!
I am mainly using the spb shell panel, and like it for the reason that I can use my thick fingers to operate it. Is their any other user interfaces like this one?
Ok, I am a smart enough guy…(sometimes)…but I cannot for the life of me understand roms…and what you guys are going on about in these forums.
What I am looking for is a good selection of panels to choose from, however from what I can get from these forums is that I am better installing something completely different on the phone.. I assume this gets rid of my panels?
Do roms completely overwrite what is currenly on the phone? Ie. Panels, tomtom, etc.
Any tips would be much appreciated, as I am interested in a user interface that I can better customise to suit myself (cant customise spb mobile shell)…..
Thanks..
Roughly said a ROM is a collection of appz put in one file together with the WinMo OS.
What those appz are, and which version of winmo, totally depends on the creator of the custom cooked ROM. In the threads of the custom ROM is always a summary of what is included.
Most chefs delete the panels from their ROMs, except for the standard panels and the panelmanager. So you can install the panels you want to use.
When installing a new ROM (custom cooked or stock) it always deletes the phone memory, not your SD-card! So you need to install appz, change settings to your own need, and ofcourse put contacts, agenda, etc back from back-up.
Nice, thanks.
I think in that case that I will avoid them for now, as I do not have a good enough understanding of how it works. I will how ever make more of an effort to read into the process to understand how it will benefit how I use the phone.
Thanks for the heads up.
May I suggest you to read this thread:
(sticky thred, on top of the forum)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477801
You'll find what you want to know
Ah, perfect. Thanks for the link!
Nice resource btw.
Goodluck...Enjoy Reading...
Ok, took the plunge, and installed a custom rom....
I installed Touch_IT v4.5 and it is excellent..however
Anyone else experiencing lots of crashes? I am getting lots of crashes for stupid things like trying to open the X panel....
Whats annoyed me most is that I have taken off the back cover so much to remove the battery (to restart) I have cracked the part under the camera :-(
Just out of interest...to convert back to the stock o2 UK rom do I simply download "X1i_GENERIC_UK_CDF1215-1832_R2AA010 - uploaded" from:
NEW ORIGINAL X1 ROMS (all released variants) update 14.3.2009
Then Hard SPL, and install this original rom?
Thanks..
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Ok, took the plunge, and installed a custom rom....
I installed Touch_IT v4.5 and it is excellent..however
Anyone else experiencing lots of crashes? I am getting lots of crashes for stupid things like trying to open the X panel....
Whats annoyed me most is that I have taken off the back cover so much to remove the battery (to restart) I have cracked the part under the camera :-(
Just out of interest...to convert back to the stock o2 UK rom do I simply download "X1i_GENERIC_UK_CDF1215-1832_R2AA010 - uploaded" from:
NEW ORIGINAL X1 ROMS (all released variants) update 14.3.2009
Then Hard SPL, and install this original rom?
Thanks..
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Yes, and yes.
Edit: You don't need to HARD SPL again before you flash it.
I believe that ROM is the generic SE one without any of the O2 branding.
If you need to return it for any reason you will need to reflash it with the O2 ROM (which I believe is available in the same thread as you found the one you pointed out).
You'll also need to change the hard spl back to the original.
Shame about the crack under the camera, did you know you can soft reset by holding down the power button for 3-5 seconds?
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You'll also need to change the hard spl back to the original.
Shame about the crack under the camera, did you know you can soft reset by holding down the power button for 3-5 seconds?
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Thanks for the help.
How do I change the hard spl back to the original??
I do assume though there is no way to reset the phone when it has completely crashed, without removing the battery. Holding the power button down has no effect.
Its a shame as I love the touch-it 4.5 rom. I almost would live with it being unstable just for some of the features (i.e Camera with autoflash, and the touchflo 3D interface).
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How do I change the hard spl back to the original??
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In the Hard-SPL thread you can read how to change back to original spl.
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Its a shame as I love the touch-it 4.5 rom. I almost would live with it being unstable just for some of the features (i.e Camera with autoflash, and the touchflo 3D interface).
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Did you hard reset after flash, because I've been using Touch-IT 4.5 since the day after it was released and aren't experiencing big stability issues (hard reset is press the two directly under your screen and press reset button with stylo).
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I do assume though there is no way to reset the phone when it has completely crashed, without removing the battery. Holding the power button down has no effect.
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When the batterycover is removed there is a tiny hole next to the battery, you can use your stylo to press the reset button inside the hole (soft reset).
hard reset after flash? no...how do I do that?
As I didnt do it, will I have to reflash it again and then hard reset?
I dont understand "press the 2 under the screen" sorry...
Thanks again..
Hey guys I just too got an X1a and want to install this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485624 But still not really quite sure what to do. So I just download the ROM and ROMUpdateUtility.exe yes? (where can i find the rom update utility for the Xperia?) Then I just install it onto the phone? I know I hav to backup etc. Will this void the warranty though, will I be able to get it to factory settings if I want to change it back?
Thank you.
Need a reply asap..
Oh and is the Touch-IT good?
djglenn1337 said:
hard reset after flash? no...how do I do that?
As I didnt do it, will I have to reflash it again and then hard reset?
I dont understand "press the 2 under the screen" sorry...
Thanks again..
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Hard reset:
1. turn off the phone
2. Hold both right and left buttons (the ones right under the screen, dont know the name)
3. press reset button with stylus, while still holding the others
tai927 said:
Hey guys I just too got an X1a and want to install this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485624 But still not really quite sure what to do. So I just download the ROM and ROMUpdateUtility.exe yes? (where can i find the rom update utility for the Xperia?) Then I just install it onto the phone? I know I hav to backup etc. Will this void the warranty though, will I be able to get it to factory settings if I want to change it back?
Thank you.
Need a reply asap..
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Please read the sticky's in the ROM thread before trying to flash....
How to flash?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446070
Hard-SPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
How to back-up your ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462926
Have fun reading....
Lokatho said:
Hard reset:
1. turn off the phone
2. Hold both right and left buttons (the ones right under the screen, dont know the name)
3. press reset button with stylus, while still holding the others
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Ok, so the reset button is the one underneath the battery cover?
and the right and left buttons are the silver rectangular ones that you can assign as anything?
Should I reflash the phone and hard reset it then, or might hard resetting it now work?
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Ok, so the reset button is the one underneath the battery cover?
and the right and left buttons are the silver rectangular ones that you can assign as anything?
Should I reflash the phone and hard reset it then, or might hard resetting it now work?
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Hard reset without reflash should do the trick
ps remind that hard reset will set the OS back like it has never been used before
Curious on how revert the hardspl to original.
I'm new to all this as well,
I want to make registry edits, i downloaded the free trial Resco file explorer, which is supposed to be able to make reg edits, but i CANNOT (or simply i just dont konw how or where) find the HKCU folder. I can only see the regular Device folders, thats about it!! Where am i supposed to look at??
chris28j said:
Curious on how revert the hardspl to original.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
chris28j said:
I want to make registry edits, i downloaded the free trial Resco file explorer, which is supposed to be able to make reg edits, but i CANNOT (or simply i just dont konw how or where) find the HKCU folder. I can only see the regular Device folders, thats about it!! Where am i supposed to look at??
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Don't know Resco first handed, but looking at the screenshots (http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/indepth.asp) you should be able to enter the registry at the base of the folder tree.
Hi,
just because i don´t understand why i should hardreset after a flash, i wanted to open a thread on this. Some people say you have to do it 2-3 times.
Because it doesn´t sound any logical to me i wanted to ask around, if anyone really has experienced a difference.
Maybe somebody adanced could even explain, if or if not this could do any difference.
If it finally does: When do you do it? Before Windows says it is going to do some adjustments and wants to softreset or after?
Thx in advance to help me clarifing this,
nearlygod
nearlygod said:
Hi,
just because i don´t understand why i should hardreset after a flash, i wanted to open a thread on this. Some people say you have to do it 2-3 times.
Because it doesn´t sound any logical to me i wanted to ask around, if anyone really has experienced a difference.
Maybe somebody adanced could even explain, if or if not this could do any difference.
If it finally does: When do you do it? Before Windows says it is going to do some adjustments and wants to softreset or after?
Thx in advance to help me clarifing this,
nearlygod
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Yes,it is not logical...I agree with you...It's really stupid...I never had Hard Reset after flashing and I never had problems with ROMs...
I disagree, only once have I NOT hard reset after flashing and the speed was slower, I ended up reflashing and hard resetting made it faster again!
Ok, nice, we need a lot more people with a lot more experience in having hardresetted or not the same rom and tested it a lot.
Question: Isn´t flashing a rom the same as a hardreset? Purging all existing data and writing an image file?
I never had to "hardrest" my pc after writing an imagefile back on to it.
nearly
pLUSpISTOL said:
I disagree, only once have I NOT hard reset after flashing and the speed was slower, I ended up reflashing and hard resetting made it faster again!
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i second this. And it has happened more than once to me. You may not have a problem but har resetting assure you do not. Nothing worse than flashing and setting all those settings and realizing it is running slow...... then you start over.
sometimes i do some not.never had problems either..
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Question: Isn´t flashing a rom the same as a hardreset? Purging all existing data and writing an image file?
I never had to "hardrest" my pc after writing an imagefile back on to it.
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Yes,it is same process )))Why I have to do same thing 2 or more times))))please turn on your logic guys)))
you have to hard reset to clear out all of the stuff in storage. you only need to do it once though and you do it whenever. you have to do it because in order to save power your phone does not zero out something you delete and the remaining bytes could affect the performance. it's just like why you always format your hard drive completely before you install or reinstall an operating system. you can the effects everywhere, too, if you look closely like how your phone might have saved the username and password to a website that was there from a previous flash. there are some things that might be afffecting your phone that you dont see like a 1 instead of a 0 in a registry setting that isnt even supposed to be in the rom. no a flash is not like a hard reset as a flash doesn't wipe out everything, it just overwrites it
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you have to hard reset to clear out all of the stuff in storage. you only need to do it once though and you do it whenever. you have to do it because in order to save power your phone does not zero out something you delete and the remaining bytes could affect the performance. it's just like why you always format your hard drive completely before you install or reinstall an operating system. you can the effects everywhere, too, if you look closely like how your phone might have saved the username and password to a website that was there from a previous flash. there are some things that might be afffecting your phone that you dont see like a 1 instead of a 0 in a registry setting that isnt even supposed to be in the rom. no a flash is not like a hard reset as a flash doesn't wipe out everything, it just overwrites it
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But flashing like a Hard Reset)))it erase all your stuff and write new information)))
it's just like why you always format your hard drive completely before you install or reinstall an operating system.
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Don't use Windows PC)))and you don't need every month reinstall your operation system)))also you don't need to format your hard drive)))
like how your phone might have saved the username and password to a website that was there from a previous flash
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Like a fantastic))but if you safe your cookies on your SD card it could be)))
Guys you should do Hard Reset many times before flashing too)))
Every time a ROM is flashed, storage partition is wiped/replaced/reallocated. In essence it's an equivalent of a hard reset, so there's really no point in doing a hard reset unless your ROM image was so buggy that it didn't allocate storage partition properly. If that's the case, hard reset may be helpful, but I wouldn't go with that ROM obviously.
When you flash a stock ROM, you are never required to hard reset thereafter, why it should be different for a customized ROM?
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When you flash a stock ROM, you are never required to hard reset thereafter, why it should be different for a customized ROM?
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Really GOOD POINT)))Why HTC doesn't required us to do Hard Reset after or before flashing stock ROM...!!!???
sammypwns said:
...no a flash is not like a hard reset as a flash doesn't wipe out everything, it just overwrites it
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Well that claim right there is huge. Does anyone truly definitevely know whether a flash:
A) Completely whipes everything out, then writes new information, or
B) Simply overwrites data that it has too, and if there is a file already present on the device but not in the new ROM, it just leaves it alone
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Jim.
I've flashed dutty's rom wich he claimes todo 2 hardresets after flash.
I dind't do any hard resel and all is running fine, better than before.
I've never run a hard reset after flash, and the only problems i've had were the same the ones had with hard reset...
So my opinion:"it's not neccisairy(or whatever you spell it)"
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Every time a ROM is flashed, storage partition is wiped/replaced/reallocated. In essence it's an equivalent of a hard reset, so there's really no point in doing a hard reset unless your ROM image was so buggy that it didn't allocate storage partition properly. If that's the case, hard reset may be helpful, but I wouldn't go with that ROM obviously.
When you flash a stock ROM, you are never required to hard reset thereafter, why it should be different for a customized ROM?
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Doesn't the stock RUU do a Hard Reset after flashing with a task 28?
Also, the stock ROM's are less likly to be messed up unlike the cooked ones, where we are always trying to squeeze a little more out of them (sometimes with unknown adverse effects).
mercshle used to advise, Flash, HR and re-flash, but I can't recall any reason why (his threads went when he did).
@OP, realy you should have searched before starting this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439164
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410485
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...shing&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
etc...
Dave
onkolog said:
Yes,it is same process
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I am no expert in flashing but it is NOT the same process. The hardware is quite different and self the flash- and hardreset-process on our GSM are NOT the same. The flash-process overwrites the memory and the hard-reset rewrite the memory.
Maybe it is a myth but therefore we need a hardware expert, who can explain what really happends when we flash but the documentation explains the difference between flashing a stock ROM and a non-stock ROM and that also by a stock ROM a hardresat is made (automaticly).
So, it is normal, that some have no problems without a hardreset and others have. It depends what you have installed and changed in the ROM before. This can affect the "new" ROM or not.
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I am no expert in flashing but it is NOT the same process. The hardware is quite different and self the flash- and hardreset-process on our GSM are NOT the same. The flash-process overwrites the memory and the hard-reset rewrite the memory.
Maybe it is a myth but therefore we need a hardware expert, who can explain what really happends when we flash but the documentation explains the difference between flashing a stock ROM and a non-stock ROM and that also by a stock ROM a hardresat is made (automaticly).
So, it is normal, that some have no problems without a hardreset and others have. It depends what you have installed and changed in the ROM before. This can affect the "new" ROM or not.
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Totally agree with Elim above. I'm no expert myself but I have flashed countless roms. I've found that some roms after flashing can appear sluggish and after a hard reset the performance improves dramatically.
Duttys latest roms he has requested 2 hard resets and i've noticed that startup after flashing sometimes isn't complete without a second hard reset. Tested this on different phones and its not repeated on all which is strange behaviour.
Other roms don't require 2 hard resets, but still improve after one hard rest. So maybe its something hardwired into the roms themselves
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Duttys latest roms he has requested 2 hard resets and i've noticed that startup after flashing sometimes isn't complete without a second hard reset. Tested this on different phones and its not repeated on all which is strange behaviour.
Other roms like Davideuk, Energy rom & Laurentius26 don't require this so maybe its something hardwired into the roms themselves
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HAHA It's so funny)))
After each Hard Reset you'll have different color of the screen))))
It's stupid...It means he cannot built a ROM correctly)))
Why I don't have this problem in my ROM...we both use same OEM (Rhodium and Topaz)
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After each Hard Reset you'll have different color of the screen))))
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Explain this?
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Explain this?
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HAHA)))
After first you have white screen, do you?)))
Ok Guys,
it's like this. Some rom images are really buggy cooked.
A hard reset is also necessairy because all the data of the previous rom hasd to be deleted. That's why by the hard reset it goed in bootloader so that no prog can be running so that it can be overwritten good.
Sometimes with the Touch Pro roms, the camera driver can't be overwritten that results in a not working camera.
Hard reset will do the magic.
So always hard reset, it takes a minute of two and it saves problems.
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When i restart it activates the first time installation thingie... it does it even with shutdown and soft reset and hardreset.
i used 3 roms and they all did the same thing
enter the first time installation thingie
can any1 help me?
I got caught in a loop one time when i was trying to do a hard reset. When it came back from clearing the memory and I did the calibrate screen thing, I would soft reset prior to the bloatware installation. When it restarted it would go right back into the clearing data screen of the hard reset.
Eventually I let the bloatware install, then did a hard reset and that seemed to clear it out.
Not sure if that will help.
I have no idea what you just said .. :$ sry
but is there a way to TOTALLY clean my Pocket pc?
chimera_nl said:
I have no idea what you just said .. :$ sry
but is there a way to TOTALLY clean my Pocket pc?
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A Hard reset will wipe out everything that you have installed on the phone, and you will be back with the operating system, whether it is a custom rom or an ATT Rom or HTC Rom.
Are you talking about wiping the "hard drive" clean with no operation system? I do not know how to do that, but why would you want to do that anyway.
phooey, i'm having similar problems... hard reset (holding soft keys and pressing reset with stylus) doesn't stop the issue from happening again. -- back to factory reset when rebooting either soft or hard. not sure if this is the same issue...if so i double posted sorry.
hey jklarich, you have posted a new thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564537
...so consider this post of mine a reply to this thread as well as the one created by you (referenced above).
NEITHER of you have mentioned WHICH ROMs you tried when the problem started.
NEITHER of you have mentioned the HardSPL version(s) you have on your devices.
NEITHER of you have categorically clarified that you have gone through the steps in the FAQs of the ROMs you've tried.
BOTTOM LINE: always provide more information!
now with lack of information, using my "mind reading skills" (well actually they're just logical, deductive, and analytic approaches with a touch of human psychology and n00b-behavior-predicting voodoo magic), i will reason as follows:
seeing as how BOTH of you are junior members and how BOTH of you mention experiencing the issue with THREE ROMs, i suspect you must have coincidently tried the top three most popular WM6.5 ROMs, which would be TPC's, abusalsa's PDA Corner, and one other.
THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE WITH NEARLY EVERY WM6.5 ROM! it is mentioned in the FAQs on the first page pertaining to each of the popular WM6.5 ROMs for the kaiser. the workaround/solution is mentioned in the FAQ!
the above "flame" is based solely on the assumption that you both tried WM6.5 ROMs without reading/following the suggestions in the FAQs. if you have indeed tried the magical step in the FAQ that should fix this problem but yet the problem remains, then i'm sorry about the unnecessary flame and i hope you find the solution to your problem.
Even though the TPC ROM says it's worked out, install the factory ROM first. That fixed the problem for me. Sorry, but I think this is valid only because TPC states quite clearly that they think they sorted out this problem on their thread.