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Band switcher

I am looking for a quick and easy way to switch from 3G to Edge (Yes I have a Tilt on AT&T) from the today screen so that I can conserve battery life most of the time but get to 3G quickly.
I thought that phoneAlarm could do it by profile but it doesn't.
Freeware would be great since I am not looking for anything profile, time or location based but at the point I am open to whatever.

See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317982
(explicitly linked from the Wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(GPRS & EDGE) modes to optimize battery life! )

Menneisyys said:
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317982
(explicitly linked from the Wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(GPRS & EDGE) modes to optimize battery life! )
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Thank you sir.. I have been on the board for too long trying to figure out some flashing things and got lazy.
I have working this issue from the phoneAlarm end as well since it seems to have decided to stop working on me for some reason
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?topic=5374.msg37434#msg37434
Have a great weekend!

I did some more testing and the plot thickens (or at least becomes more complicated) I read here that the Tilt changes bands differently than other WM6 phones (although I have not yet figured out how) so I think that may be part of the problem.
I flashed _Alex_ ' s ultra clean ROM and the only thing I installed was phoneAlarm. The phone was connected to MEdia Net in 3G. When I switched to a profile that did not have 3G (selected as GSM in the options) the connection disconnected and reconnected, but it remained 3G.
The same was true in reverse if I selected a GSM profile and reset it would start is EDGE. If I changed it to 3G profile it would disconnect, reconnect and stay EDGE.
I started checking the comm manager (I am using a 10 button comm manager) and the 3G selector would change with the profile although the band switch would not occur.
What is funny is that if I used the 3G selector on the comm manager the band switched with no problem, following the same behavior patter of disconnecting and reconnecting.
I don't know enough to really dig in any further but I will keep googling how the Tilt changes bands and hopefully one of the more technically adept folks will have something figured out or can give me an assist.

dcdivenut said:
I am looking for a quick and easy way to switch from 3G to Edge (Yes I have a Tilt on AT&T) from the today screen so that I can conserve battery life most of the time but get to 3G quickly.
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3G and edge use the exact transmitted power! (Always on connection is the main problem!) An Ipod uses Edge which is slow. But what the hey, you have a question and it will be answered here...

Farsquidge said:
3G and edge use the exact transmitted power! (Always on connection is the main problem!) But what the hey, you have a question and it will be answered here...
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That is interesting, because I get significant improvements in battery life if I spend the day on EDGE vs 3G. In fact, my battery rarely lasts more than 3/4 of a day with light phone usage if I am on 3G! This experience would see to be pretty common and I have even seen something that says 3G uses up to 4 times as much power as EDGE. This was supposedly the reason why Apple made the iPhone EDGE not 3G.
I am not bashing you and there may some electrical engineering reason why they use the same transmitted power but real life this translates into something different.

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This was supposedly the reason why Apple made the iPhone EDGE not 3G.
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That does it!!! I'm finished...

One of the 10 key Comm Managers works. I don't recall what thread I got it in but it works fine for me.

HTC changed the old way to change the band in tilt. Now It isnt enought to change a registry key and reset the radio device. Now are needed dark and undocumented api calls to htc libraries. Bandswitch and commmgrpro(bandswitch + profiles) do it correctly.
Dani

danielherrero said:
HTC changed the old way to change the band in tilt. Now It isnt enought to change a registry key and reset the radio device. Now are needed dark and undocumented api calls to htc libraries. Bandswitch and commmgrpro(bandswitch + profiles) do it correctly.
Dani
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Thanks - I will pass this along to Bruce, who is the phonealarm creator, and is trying to fix this in his next release. Another reason I love the product!!!
Shameless plug for them but it really is an awesome product and the support is great! Worth every freakin' penny!

Farsquidge said:
3G and edge use the exact transmitted power! (Always on connection is the main problem!) An Ipod uses Edge which is slow. But what the hey, you have a question and it will be answered here...
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Uh, you wanna cite your source for that one?

I think HTC have been changing things again as my new Touch Dual, with latest bandswitch does not swap, it will allow the change and it even shows it in the system settings, but remains on 3G

A little divergent from the main topic thread, but:
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This was supposedly the reason why Apple made the iPhone EDGE not 3G.
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If Apple could have made it 3G they would have. Steve Jobs was quoted in an interview that the reason the iPhone was not released with 3G originally was that the hardware to make it 3G was not out long enough to be tested thoroughly at the time the phone was being built and tested, not the time it was released. Once the decision was made to go Edge, Apple couldn't release a much better phone within a quarter or two so the incentive to get it out sooner went away. I have it on good authority (rumors in the media also confirm this) that the 3G iPhone will be released Q2/Q3 in 2008. Also, given the popularity of the iPhone and Cingular's small but growing 3G network at the time of release, Cingular was concerned that not everyone that bought an iPhone would have been in 3G areas and would have complained about performance. This is why Cingular has seemingly accelerated the roll-out of 3G-ready areas faster over the last few quarters. This comes from a few friends at Cingular.
If a new 3G iPhone will have battery life as long as the current Edge iPhone (removable battery would be the bomb to carry an extra one or extra capacity, it will be a very compelling unit, despite the inability to add 3rd party apps. And to bring this full circle to the thread, if a 3G iPhone allows 3G to be turned on/off, look out Windows mobile....oh, and removable storage capacity, too, and GPS..., and a good IM program...

Try these Comm Managers. They both work perfectly fine on my tilt.

None of these work on the Dual as it moans about permissions when installing.

rolandrat said:
None of these work on the Dual as it moans about permissions when installing.
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Go to Settings>System> Memory>Running Programs and Stop the Comm Manager application. Then install the Comm Manager.
That should do the trick.

GarJones27 said:
Try these Comm Managers. They both work perfectly fine on my tilt.
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I am currently using the dutty black 3G and that works perfectly. What I have done is link comm manager to a button so I can access it quickly and switch as needed. Changing comm managers does not address the phoneAlarm issue since phoneAlarm changes reg keys (according to Bruce) and with the Tilt (and maybe the Kaiser) it takes "api calls" or something else I don't fully understand.
If there is anyone who knows how this works and would be willing to share with Bruce over at pocketMax so he can build this into a update release that would be awesome!

GarJones27 said:
Go to Settings>System> Memory>Running Programs and Stop the Comm Manager application. Then install the Comm Manager.
That should do the trick.
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Stopping everything and install worked thanks.

Some questions about the Keiser (performance and other)

Hey all,
First off I want to say that I've been using htc products since the original orange SPV and whenever I have needed anything this site has always been here for me. Fantastic work, please don't stop - ever. You're a true credit to the Windows Mobile community.
If it's not too much trouble I have some questions about the Keiser that I and i'm sure one of you will know exactly what the problem is.
Choppy music
Recently i've been finding that when playing music to a bluetooth (sony dr-bt22) or cabled headset (using converter) the music will occasionally jump quite a lot. Now it doesn't do this all the time, but I would have thought that when this happens it'd be down to some sort of bottleneck with resources. I've looked at the great taskmgr tool and can't see anything major. There's about 50% of the ram and processing power free and for just playing music I wouldn't have thought this would have drained much. So my thought was maybe it's to do with storage bandwidth, but I'm unable to find out. Can anyone recommend me a tool or a fix for this issue? Is it common?
Wifi
I barely use wifi cause it seems to get insanely hot and use alot of battery. It seems a bit of a waste to me to have a great feature like wifi disable on a device like this. I only have the o2 gprs bolt on and it doesn't connect at great speeds. I'd love to be able to automatically hop onto trusted wifi networks as I roam about particularly as openzone is everywhere these days.
Is the insane heat it's generating a sign that this should not be sat in my pocket all day or is it perfectly safe? I'm guessing this is why it's sapping all the power with all the energy wasted on heat but can't this be avoided? I'm not much of an expert on how wifi works or the safety of having it so close to you all the time.
GPRS performance
I was pretty fed up of the bills I was getting on contract with this phone so I'm now using the o2 png and using the o2 £7 internet bolton. However, I REALLY hate internet explorer! It is extremely fiddly on the move and I can't drag pages around with my finger or so it seems. Can anyone recommend me a really smart browser that is finger orientated? I also seem to be getting insanely poor performance with GPRS/3G, pages are taking a insane amount of time to load sometimes so i'm figuring i'm mostly on GPRS. How is 3g coverage these days and what speed should I be expecting? Or is this all down to the strength of the battery on the phone?
Finger Based Alternatives
I loved some of the ideas in PointUI and would love any recommendations on finger apps - especially for reading mail and controlling windows media player and most of all that annoying stock Contacts window, it can be a pain dragging a pen out or switching to the keyboard just to make a simple call.
Bluetooth Disconnection
Whilst packed into a train on my way to work one day my bluetooth headset power ran out and disconnected from my phone. I happened to be playing music and 100% volume and you can imagine what happened next. Is there a way for Windows Media Player to pause on bluetooth disconnection? It's extremely embarassing!
Thanks in advance for those that reply. I really love this phone and would love to get the most out of it.
Cheers
Mike

Lots of questions -
You do not state what ROM you are on/using - but I had many of the issues with BT and WIFI and music that you state you are having. I upgraded to the ROM in my signature and the BT and WIFI problems went away.
I use Opera now and like it better - don't set your expectations on internet on a 2 by 3 inch screen too high. When your finger takes up 7 percent of the ENTIRE screen it is going to be difficult to point accurately easily. The pointer however works a treat.
Re: BT disconnection - I was at the BYM and listening to music and it happened to me - you apologize and stop the music ASAP. Now - in church while the minister is speaking is a totally 'nother story...
Bill

Hi Whk,
I tried out duttys wm61 rom which I enjoyed the most but seemed to have the largest performance issues on. Before that it was the stock o2 xda build.
Thanks for the suggestion with opera, i'll give it a go.
Cheers!
Mike

Youtube player buffers extremely slow

Hi all,
I have this strange issue with the Youtube app on my Diamond. I posted about this in Dutty's thread and though it seems I am not the only one, no solution is knowd yet.
Here's the deal:
When I set the settings to HIGH QUALITY in the Settings dialog in the youtube app, buffering is extremely slow, it buffers with 1% intervals. I am using a high speed H network connection, and in the past I remember it would buffer with intervals of about 25-30%.
I tried different radio roms, different cooked roms (incl. stock rom/stock radio), nothing helps. It's not the locations because all other internet apps have fast internet.
Anyone knows about this? I'm kind of stuck here

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mikkelnl said:
Hi all,
I have this strange issue with the Youtube app on my Diamond. I posted about this in Dutty's thread and though it seems I am not the only one, no solution is knowd yet.
Here's the deal:
When I set the settings to HIGH QUALITY in the Settings dialog in the youtube app, buffering is extremely slow, it buffers with 1% intervals. I am using a high speed H network connection, and in the past I remember it would buffer with intervals of about 25-30%.
I tried different radio roms, different cooked roms (incl. stock rom/stock radio), nothing helps. It's not the locations because all other internet apps have fast internet.
Anyone knows about this? I'm kind of stuck here
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+1 here! I'm using the Dutch T-Mobile with Web&Walk 1mbps internet and I have to say, that i'm indeed not satisfied with the YouTube app...
I personally think it's not the ROM or Radio, but the app itsself...
one day I compared my Youtube app with a good friend of mine with his..(Apple Iphone) and his was faster, eventhough his internet is crap speed.... about 256 kb
Anyone out here who knows about this and knows how this can be fixed?
Thanxx
Regards
Jeroen

Pietje_1985 said:
+1 here! I'm using the Dutch T-Mobile with Web&Walk 1mbps internet and I have to say, that i'm indeed not satisfied with the YouTube app...
I personally think it's not the ROM or Radio, but the app itsself...
one day I compared my Youtube app with a good friend of mine with his..(Apple Iphone) and his was faster, eventhough his internet is crap speed.... about 256 kb
Anyone out here who knows about this and knows how this can be fixed?
Thanxx
Regards
Jeroen
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I compared my speed with a Touch HD from a friend, same network (!), same location, both apps set to 'high quality'. Mine started buffering at 1% intervals, his buffered with 30% intervals...
Since I tried several radio roms, I tried a few complete roms (maybe my rom had an older youtube app), but every rom I tried was slow (even the stock roms).
I am completely lost here

SOLVED!
Jeroen: I finally decided to give customer support from T-Mobile a call, and guess what; they somehow downgraded me from web-n-walk plus to the normal web-n-walk.

mikkelnl said:
I compared my speed with a Touch HD from a friend, same network (!), same location, both apps set to 'high quality'. Mine started buffering at 1% intervals, his buffered with 30% intervals...
Since I tried several radio roms, I tried a few complete roms (maybe my rom had an older youtube app), but every rom I tried was slow (even the stock roms).
I am completely lost here
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SOLVED!
Jeroen: I finally decided to give customer support from T-Mobile a call, and guess what; they somehow downgraded me from web-n-walk plus to the normal web-n-walk.
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Hey Mikkelnl
Thanxx for your reaction! I will give TMobile a ring now maybe it happened with me as well...
Thanxx mate!
EDIT: I contacted T-Mobile about my W&W and they confirmed it was still W&W plus....very weird....neway I have to deal with it I think....Could be my ROM now AZTOR V7...

4.04.00.03_2 performance part 2

Mod, Im no longer asking about its performance. I flashed it and just am reporting my findings. I hope this is the correct section, if not plz feel free to move it.
It works. I crossed the street, where my signal always and immediately died. Instead it just stayed there. Used the speedtest app and again, 3g was switched over to H (whatever that is) and its about 150-300kb faster! On wifi im closing in on 6mb, before i was barely at 4mb.
this new radio changed my life lol.

This is very interesting... I would like some further response before I think of upgrading. Anyone else with it willing to share?

I consistantly gained (on average) 6db of signal. Measured same holding/sitting possition in two different buildings, flashed and measured again.

I flashed the downgraded radio(4.04.00.03_2) this morning and haven't noticed any real difference.

4.03 works way better for me.
I just flashed back to the 4.03.00.21_2 radio from 4.04 and can say the H/3G connection appears to be way more reliable (especially when moving), on my Nexus One.
On 4.04 , if I was streaming a podcast, Pandora or youtube HD feed, the connection was guaranteed to drop during my commute. Today on 4.03, I had no problems at all.
I live in Houston, if that makes any difference.

honestly, it seems like this new radio only helps those who already have bad reception. The trend seems to be that it wont perform as best for those who have great reception. weird huh?

tanman1975 said:
I just flashed back to the 4.03.00.21_2 radio from 4.04 and can say the H/3G connection appears to be way more reliable (especially when moving), on my Nexus One.
On 4.04 , if I was streaming a podcast, Pandora or youtube HD feed, the connection was guaranteed to drop during my commute. Today on 4.03, I had no problems at all.
I live in Houston, if that makes any difference.
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yes the 4.04 is too sensitive 4.03 hits the spot for me as well

How bad the GPS problem is?

Lets see if I understand this correctly....
on the samsung galaxy s GPS system, there are 2 options:
1)Use wireless networks: Set the device to use the
wireless networking to indicate your location
2)Use GPS satellites : Enable the GPS receiver to indicate your location
For now, we know that using the option 2 gives us crappy results (loosing signals, cannot lock sattelites, jumping around etc)
Now, for option 1: choosing option 1 means that launching the maps application should indicate where your location is currently by using some kind of triangulation method based on the availability of GSM signal, so it should even work when you are indoor or whenever there is a GSM signal......
But apparently on this phone, it only shows your initial location, then after that even if you have moved 1 km from your initial location, the location indicator arrow is stuck at your initial location, meaning that it doesnt track you and your movement, which means both options simply dont work on this phone....
On my wife's iphone, the GPS functionality works wonderfully even when i am inside a building and it keeps updating your location as you move continuosly.
It just shows you how careless and hasty samsung is in launching this product that even the simplest form of GPS functionality, one that is based on GSM triangulation method, also doesnt work..... and they still went ahead with the launch.....

Absolutely no problems with GSM or GPS positioning now that I'm using I9000XWJG5. Locks on satellites within 22 seconds from switch on. Thats at 30m precision. After 10 seconds more gets to 5m precision.
This is from inside my building. (Using GPS Status to check)

Same here. Your wife's phone probably also uses the mobile network to keep location inside buildings, or wireless networks. Try enabling skyhook, that is all i did.

used skyhook, and assited mode, accuracy set to 50, changed supl/cp settings, but compared to my g1 or hd2 or e61 or 10 year old bt/gps mouse the gps quality is just rubbish. (XXJF3)

no problem even without skyhook, but using skyhook gets locking much faster
i'm comparing it to my old HTC Athena, which takes sometimes over 5min to lock to 1 satellite in the great white open sky.... sigh...
sometimes it wont even lock if the weather is poor, takes like 30min or more to lock, under those conditions.
simply insane.
so SGS i9000 is like a dream to use.

g1 / hd2 / e61 only take seconds to get a full lock with accuracy about 3m. in my opinion skyhook and gps plus are needless if you have a working cb a-gps.

From my experience its the rom. As my gps worked fine with default FE3 (optus au) rom even indoors but when i flashed G5 (latest euro) i could only lock onto one sat outdoors even with skyhooks setting. Then i installed Samset 1.2 update.zip the gps works again, thats just my 2cents

widjaja74_us said:
It just shows you how careless and hasty samsung is in launching this product that even the simplest form of GPS functionality, one that is based on GSM triangulation method, also doesnt work..... and they still went ahead with the launch.....
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For the record I haven't had any issues with GPS other than it being fair slower than my Milestone.
Didn't you sell your Galaxy S anyway?

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For the record I haven't had any issues with GPS other than it being fair slower than my Milestone.
Didn't you sell your Galaxy S anyway?
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Hey mate, I think I've seen you around the WP forums.
Quick question for you - I have a Milestone and am currently contemplating throwing it on eBay and grabbing the Galaxy S. Is there anything you miss from the Milestone?

ShaggyDragon said:
Absolutely no problems with GSM or GPS positioning now that I'm using I9000XWJG5. Locks on satellites within 22 seconds from switch on. Thats at 30m precision. After 10 seconds more gets to 5m precision.
This is from inside my building. (Using GPS Status to check)
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The same here. The problems start when I go out and start to drive around in my car. My GPS is absolutely useless when you move around outdoors, but locks in a few seconds indoors.

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Lets see if I understand this correctly....
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Let me see if I understand this correctly. You have sold your SGS and you are still coming back here to crap on about the GPS and other small things which are only occurring on some people's phones and not others?
For the record, everything on my phone has been running silky smooth since day one. Lag only occurs with too many apps open and this is to be expected from an operating system that can multitask.

navmanyeah said:
Let me see if I understand this correctly. You have sold your SGS and you are still coming back here to crap on about the GPS and other small things which are only occurring on some people's phones and not others?
For the record, everything on my phone has been running silky smooth since day one. Lag only occurs with too many apps open and this is to be expected from an operating system that can multitask.
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I sold my phone at a profit because currently i cannot afford to have unreliable phone in doing my job... then i searched for something better and can't find any.... so i'm still following the forum to see of all the problems i experience have been fixed .... if thats the case, i might buy another one....
and for the record, i didnt crap about the GPS, i'm just investigating it deeper, becase GPS is important for me...
Thats crap for you