SIM services - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hi,
Since I've never had Windows Mobile device before but planning to get the recently announced Touch Pro I'm wondering how it'll handle SIM services.
The thing is that I'm using a special service with my provider that allows me to have two lines with different numbers on one SIM card. That way I can always receive incoming calls to both lines and switch between them two for outgoing calls.
I know that when I switch lines via the SIM menu it kind of resets the phone for a sec and registers again with the selected line. It works perfect with my Symbian N73 but how the Touch Pro will handle this?

I doubt that many people would know. You need to find someone else who has a WM device and the same special SIM service...
Perhaps you could create a thread about the special SIM service on the 'General' forum, in order to attract the attention of more users.

It uses a refresh like the dual sim's that have a STK menu. If the phone supports refresh it'll work. It should, but you never know.

Dark Fire said:
Perhaps you could create a thread about the special SIM service on the 'General' forum, in order to attract the attention of more users.
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Thanks, will do that.

Anyone..?

i had this service (2 lines on 1 sim) with orange and when i received my SPV M3100-Herms it only worked on one number

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2in1 Sim Question

I have a SIM with two numbers, 2in1.
The problem is that it always shows on the title bar the number "1" (Line 1)
with the two numbers.The problem is that I don't know which number is on abd I have to go into the SIM menu to check.
any solution?
where did you get a 2 in one sim - i need one of those!
it's a service by my network.
This SIM has two numbers and whether someone calls you on the first number or on the second,the phone rings.
Aw Crap!
Hey well thx for the swift answer anyway!
;-)
You can buy 2 in 1 sims on ebay along with a sim duplicator that will put both of your single sims on the 2 in 1 card. The actually even have super sims that can hold way more than 2 sims. Just search super sim on ebay and I'm sure you'll find what I'm talking about.
Thx buddy I will - not sure if these will work with Tmob tho or willthey fit the kaiser...
peace matey
al
That I couldn't tell you. I've never used one before, just knew where to find them. SIM cards should all be the same size though so it should fit and I just read a post in the wizard forum earlier today that said that one cooked ROM for the wizard even supports multi sim cards and the ones that don't you can change which number is being used in the sim manager. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if that means you'll miss any calls made to the number not being used or if you only have to change the one being used if you want to use that number to dial out on.
No,you won't lose any phones.
The only thing is that you don't know which number you have active (to make calls).
Just this....The 2in1 SIM cards work fine on Kaiser without a problem at all.
this is great news you lot are frikkin brilliant - why did i stay away so long?!
ty fellaz
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Two sim cards ?

Does anyone know if there is a way to use two sim cards at the same time in the Kaiser ? I know that an adapter exist but I don't know if it would fit in the Kaiser ...
Thanks !
If you know more. Please share it with us.
Have you actually seen the sim card holder on a kaiser? its small and only room for one sim (even if you have ribbon cable from it to a 2 sim splitter) the lock mechanism stops any cable coming out so it would have to double back on the sim and come out the side and the side of the sim cover would need shaving to allow that and then on the back the form is moulded for the clearance of the keyboard so even if you stuck it to the back of the screen you will end up snagging it when opening and closing the keyboard.
if someone makes one that works then I will gladly take back what i said above however don't hold your breath.
Russ
I had a ghost Dual SIM adapter for my O2 XDA Exec & needed to cut each SIM down and place in a special Dual SIM holder which was the size of a single SIM. It worked fine, but I haven't had the nerve to cut up another couple of SIMs now that I've got a new T-Mobile VARIO III
weasel said:
I had a ghost Dual SIM adapter for my O2 XDA Exec & needed to cut each SIM down and place in a special Dual SIM holder which was the size of a single SIM. It worked fine, but I haven't had the nerve to cut up another couple of SIMs now that I've got a new T-Mobile VARIO III
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Did that really work? The Kaiser just doesn't support dual SIM(IMHO).
Do you have to switch, or can you be called on 2 SIM's at the same time?
And how do you define the SIM to make the outgoing call?
I'm interested!
Yes, the ghost Dual SIM adapter seems interesting ...
Dual sims
I use them for thre last two years and stopped as they are a battery drain on the phones.
-No you cannot use them at the same time, you need to flick one on and off.
-Handy but not worth battery drain
Network operators may create a service where two numbers (from the same operator) are active on one sim. Perhaps this is not the ideal solution but workable. I believe that TIM and/or Vodafone in Italy (although I'm not from there) provide such a service.
leon100 said:
Network operators may create a service where two numbers (from the same operator) are active on one sim. Perhaps this is not the ideal solution but workable. I believe that TIM and/or Vodafone in Italy (although I'm not from there) provide such a service.
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Orange in the UK provide this service. By pressing the # it switches froms one line to the other to make calls. Calls/SMS can be received on either line regardless of which line is selected for outgoing calls
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
BiasX said:
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
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I have the same problem, also using an ana
log daptor. The today plug cab in also does not work in order to change the network, was working fine on the Trinity.
pff , i dont like to cut in my sim cards...
They are from my work.. Is there no other solution?
dual sim card PDA phone
how about this for a change?
http://www.myphone.com.ph/
I'm just waiting for HTC to make a handset like the Kaiser with dual sim slots, its a complete pain when I'm in work carrying a work one. Might be worth suggesting it to them, don't know how much they keep an eye on these sort of forums.
BiasX said:
I have a analogue dual-sim-adapter from http://www.hot-wire-telekom.de working in my Kaiser.
It's working fine with one problem: The operator names are not shown right. The problem was also known with the Artemis, but solvable by a registry change. This change is not working on the Kaiser, because the needed registry key is not present.
Does anyone have a solvation for that?
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The todayplugin.cab doesnt work for me. How do you switch the network?
any updates on this?
how to stitch sims
yeah, I have an o2 flame, and I'm wondering how you choose which sim you want to make an outgoing call on? And can a incoming call come to either of the sims or do you have to switch something?
I recall seeing special tools out there allowing you to copy several sim cards onto one single one. Then when you turn on the phone, you can chose which "virtual" card gets powered up. Check it out on ebay.
do you have a name? for this tool/app ?
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i found something : http://www.duosim.com/supersim.html
will that work?
Look up SIMORE on the web. The adapters have not been fully tested for Kaiser yet (P4550) but as it works on most other HTC units it should be available soon. Also gives many other functions.
This is another snip ya sim system but comes with two adapters to turn them back to full size when needed.
Hope this helps.

2 Line Tilt - 2 different accounts HOW TO?

I have a new Tilt (stock) I want to know if it supports 2 lines? Att phone reps said no, store rep says yes. I want to have my business line and personal line on the same phone - trouble is they are 2 different ATT accounts. Does anyone know for sure if the tilt supports 2 lines? Does anyone know how to mod the sim or the procedure to get a 2nd line from another account onto the phone I have a sim reader/writer but instructions are in hyroglyphics. Could anyone recomend a sim programmer that would do the trick or is the sim card id going to be the road block?
You can look into this solution:
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TyTN-II.html
Thanks
I have ordered this sim and will post back after I install it as to how the install whent.
sim
you can get a dual sim card on ebay
sim
you can get a dual sim card on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-In-1-GSM-Dual...ryZ48501QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
rsbrandt said:
I have a new Tilt (stock) I want to know if it supports 2 lines? Att phone reps said no, store rep says yes. I want to have my business line and personal line on the same phone - trouble is they are 2 different ATT accounts. Does anyone know for sure if the tilt supports 2 lines? Does anyone know how to mod the sim or the procedure to get a 2nd line from another account onto the phone I have a sim reader/writer but instructions are in hyroglyphics. Could anyone recomend a sim programmer that would do the trick or is the sim card id going to be the road block?
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the adapters that are being listed here will allow you to insert two SIM cards into the device, but only one SIM can be active at a time (so if you have SIM one active, even if not on a call, the second SIM calls/SMS will not show up until to switch).
The Tilt has the ability to accept two numbers but this is a network restriction. Speak to AT&T about MULTISIM or placing a redirect on one of the lines. That way you will have ONE SIM and will be able to accept calls for business and personal on one phone (even have the ability of placing one on hold whilst receving the other).
The only issue comes to your number - people can contact you using either the business number or the personal number. but when you send SMS or make a call, your number will be shown. You need to decide whether this is to be the personal or business numbers shown as you can't easily change this once it is setup.
As I say, speak to your network if the above is the option you are wanting, else go ahead with the dual SIM adapter if you are happy to change over to keep checking for new SMS and voicemails.
Thanks!
I will try out the forwarding, my problem is that my personal line is for another business - I want to be able to determins the origin of the call (ie: from buiness 1 or 2) so I can answer correctly. If I do the forwarding I'm not sure on how to identify the calls. Would it make more sense to port one of the numbers to a land line and then forward it to the phone so when a call comes in it will show the landline caller ID and I will know to answer abc company rather than xyz company? Thoughts?
i think your idea on the divert to landline then divert landline back to mobile is good.
just remember about answerphones - you want people to know they've reached the right place, but don't want to give them the wrong number or name! maybe change your mobile answerphone to "hi it's Bob, please leave a message and i'll return your call" (or whatever - just no number and no business name).
also keep in mind that divert costs. so if i was to telephone you, I pay the normal fee but you pay for the cost of calling your landline from your mobile, and then the cost of calling the mobile from the landline on your home bill. Effectively you would be paying for TWO calls for every call you received.
Why not just divert straight from line 1 to line 2? Then you just pay for call forwarding from the one line?
Hope some of this is helping you
PsyOpWarlord said:
You can look into this solution:
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/TyTN-II.html
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This is a great idea. Has anyone here tried this on a Kaiser?

Virtual SIM card?

Hi,
So I was thinking, is it possible with some driver may be to make a virtual copy of a physical SIM card, possibly copy 3-4 cards and make the phone work in multi-card mode without the need of SIM cards being physically present?
now that would be nice, a great idea, im pretty sure someone could make something like this since like other phones like sprint dont have a sim card sometimes are programed directly to the phone maybe its the same prosses.
also would make it easier for many like me that have 2 or more sim cards i myself have a T-Mobile (US) and Movistar (Mex.) sim cards and its a bother to have to change them when visiting like right now im in Mexico at the moment.
but it also would bring up another problem to have something like that.
for example someone gets your sim card (if you dont know anything about such program and if made) and someone with mischeif on their minds saves your sim information and uses it as they please. (then again. its just like stealing your phone, you would call your provider and disactivate it so no further charges would apply the second you knew that something was up. its just harder to know since you would have to wait till the bill comes in)
but if at all possible i would use it for good. would be nice
tombrighteyes said:
now that would be nice, a great idea, im pretty sure someone could make something like this since like other phones like sprint dont have a sim card sometimes are programed directly to the phone maybe its the same prosses.
also would make it easier for many like me that have 2 or more sim cards i myself have a T-Mobile (US) and Movistar (Mex.) sim cards and its a bother to have to change them when visiting like right now im in Mexico at the moment.
but it also would bring up another problem to have something like that.
for example someone gets your sim card (if you dont know anything about such program and if made) and someone with mischeif on their minds saves your sim information and uses it as they please. (then again. its just like stealing your phone, you would call your provider and disactivate it so no further charges would apply the second you knew that something was up. its just harder to know since you would have to wait till the bill comes in)
but if at all possible i would use it for good. would be nice
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Indeed, i hope it is possible. I dont think theft would be any problem at all, because the gsm network should not accept simultaneous login from the same SIM card. It just makes sense to be this way. I myself have to use up to 5 cards and growing. Ultimately, virtual SIM cards would also enable purchasing cards from the internet and also cheapest route selection, things like this..
point made.
you have a point.
i forgot about the network not allowing you to have two at the same time.
but yeah then again, it shouldn't be much of a problem i think. 5 cards is alot.
but you're right if such a program where made, it would open the market so mucho more and one could actually buy online sim card info. and if this program where made, one could save the info to the phone then back it up to a computer (where it's safe, most of the time atleast) and maybe the same program could write back to a sim card thats not activated (for purposes just as loosing a sim card, but not the info.) now there's an idea for ya.
would be super nice!
too bad i have no clue on how to program such things, but ideas i have
if anyone takes the challenge to create it, if at all possible i would gladly donate since i would use it surely.
Possible, but..
It's possible if you have the Ki and IMSI values from your SIM. The IMSI is easy, but cracking the Ki is only possible in old SIM cards, using COMP128-1 encryption.
All the SIM cloning tools on eBay can clone only these old cards.
A virtual sim card is a really cool idea. No more swapping sim cards between you primairy phone and your backup phone... (I only have only one sim)
kolomparrudi said:
It's possible if you have the Ki and IMSI values from your SIM. The IMSI is easy, but cracking the Ki is only possible in old SIM cards, using COMP128-1 encryption.
All the SIM cloning tools on eBay can clone only these old cards.
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IMSI can be be read with an nokia e51 using the blackberry connect softwre. you can see the imsi value in the programe info where you must enter to view you PIN.
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IMSI can be be read with an nokia e51 using the blackberry connect softwre. you can see the imsi value in the programe info where you must enter to view you PIN.
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Hi
No they give you the IMEI number not the IMSI.
The problem you would have is that sooner or later the networks would block your phone because they will see the fact that your phone is running 4-5 mobile numbers with ONE IMEI no. Ebay is littered with Cheap dual active SIM phones. They only have one IMEI and sooner or later the network(s) will switch off your phone.
The way round this is to have 2 IMEI numbers to run 2 sim cards at the same time...abit like the Samsung D880. This basically means you have 2 phones with 1 screen and 1 keypad...i have one and i know these work great!!.
Regards
Wasim
The will not block you for changin sims, right?
And also GSM won't allow you to register simulteniously two sims, only one at a time...
Cos TD has only ONE GSM inside, not two as Samsung DuoS
What the progress of the topic, people?
I certainly hope this is not possible. I wouldn't want to know anyone can copy and use my simcard. That would be an unacceptable breach of security for any mobile phone user.
This might be a good breach, and it exists, just need a tool to use it with windows mobile! I can even now COPY MY SIM to another sim, yes - it's need a liitle crack with it, but card itself intact, and i can have a copy
So - What are solutions now for windows mobile?
i really like to know if it is possible. but i dont think an emulator is a must because in ppc we can easly turn off the cellular connection and turn it on again. that way (if you've used old 3in1 sim cards, you'd know) you can change the operator. every time you restarted the gsm connection, your operator will change.
and what about connecting to more-than-one operator at the same time?
cheers
and what about connecting to more-than-one operator at the same time?
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that function is not possible (c) Thor, Stargate SG-1
pedmond said:
I certainly hope this is not possible. I wouldn't want to know anyone can copy and use my simcard. That would be an unacceptable breach of security for any mobile phone user.
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I am in Saudi & have 3 sim cards(STC) with the same number. One in my laptop, One in my Samsung, one in my Diamond. All work for internet at the same time to use for phone I activate by *123$ (this is then primary card for incoming & texts). When in Spain I have 2 cards(Movistar) both of these work & ring at the same time, but text messages only goes to one of them.
Virtual Sim Card
hello ladies and gentleman this is a very good idea i was thinking about the same idea today... In the virtual sim card there should be a tracking device installed in the phone so that when it is stolen you can track down the phone or the company can switch of the phone and it will have no use and all your data is safe... I am all the way in africa Botswana and my name is delmar dube i am willing to do more research on this because i want to see it come true
I would be surprised if this was possible... the GSM chipset firmware is pretty much sealed off from a phone's operating system except for the AT command interface. Otherwise people would be able to fiddle with transmit power which would invalidate the phone's FCC/etc certifications.
Any progress??
Heyy like most on this forum thread I just thought of this last night, I have an unlimited plan with Wind Mobile (who's coverage is um.... not great) with Unlimited internet and talking and texting for $29/mo. Unfortunately I spend the majority of my time outside their current coverage area, and would like to get one of Telus' "One Number Unlimited" voice plan ($7/mo) for when I'm outside of Wind's area but still want to call my girlfriend. Virutal Switchable SIM cards would be a great solution since my phone doesn't exactly like to co-operate with me when I try to turn it on after having the battery removed to get access to the SIM slot. Plus I don't want to be carrying around a little tiny piece of plastic that'll give me chaos if I ever lost it.
Anyways I'm running a Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4g (4g is the name of the phone, it's just LTE of 3G though), It's running ICS 4.*something.
Oh yeah, sorry for being a grave-digger
I love this idea. I mean apple now has patents for virtual simcards, I really hope the android market follows suit. I have 6 sim cards and counting (Afghanistan, Switzerland, United States, Korea, Philippines, and UAE), and would love to be able to purchase and activate my "virtual sim card" off of say the Google Play Store, prior to flying into a country.
I wouldn't mind some kind of DRM or whatnot, just being able to buy service before I go into country, and then have calling and data capabilities as soon as I walk off the plane would be worth it.
I have a korean Galaxy S2, which has the sim tray damaged, being impossible to connect any SIM card.
If I could use virtually my SIM card, I coud use this phone.
Is this possible??
I just wanted to use one SIM card just for phone calls, dont even need services like internet...

Huawei P10 Dual - Can I assign Specific Contacts to be called by specific SIM card?

Hey all,
I recently purchased a p10 Dual.
I have 2 SIM cards.
a. Personal number
b. Business number.
I want to assign my Colleagues numbers to be called always and without the phone asking me every time, with SIM CARD b.
And all the other Calls to be made by my personal number.
I really can't find a way to do it, and I am definitely NOT technologically challenged.
Any insights?
Thanks in advance!
Dimitris
I have found no such thing either, BUT as there are two buttons for calling in the default phone app, it hasn't been such a problem. Also, if you pick a contact from the contacts list, the popup for calling will show which of your SIMs was used to call this number last time.
Another thing that amazed me, was how the integration with in-car hands free works. If i pick or enter a number with the car system, it actually automatically uses the last sim used to call that number. So you dont have to worry about choosing.
When calling from the phone, I guess it is a little bit more tedious to get used to huaweis method (I came from a dual sim LG G4, and there you had to swap SIM card calling, but you could assign numbers to sims so it would pick the sim automatically), but it took me around 1 month to not notice it any more.
There might be some third party Phone apps out there that can do this, but most of them are not that good overall - and googles own does not work with dual sim phones as far as I know.
painkillah said:
I have found no such thing either, BUT as there are two buttons for calling in the default phone app, it hasn't been such a problem. Also, if you pick a contact from the contacts list, the popup for calling will show which of your SIMs was used to call this number last time.
Another thing that amazed me, was how the integration with in-car hands free works. If i pick or enter a number with the car system, it actually automatically uses the last sim used to call that number. So you dont have to worry about choosing.
When calling from the phone, I guess it is a little bit more tedious to get used to huaweis method (I came from a dual sim LG G4, and there you had to swap SIM card calling, but you could assign numbers to sims so it would pick the sim automatically), but it took me around 1 month to not notice it any more.
There might be some third party Phone apps out there that can do this, but most of them are not that good overall - and googles own does not work with dual sim phones as far as I know.
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I've been using True Phone for many years - previously with Xiaomi double-sim, now with Huawei - no problems at all. You can assign numbers, save the latest used as a default, etc.
painkillah said:
I have found no such thing either, BUT as there are two buttons for calling in the default phone app, it hasn't been such a problem. Also, if you pick a contact from the contacts list, the popup for calling will show which of your SIMs was used to call this number last time.
Another thing that amazed me, was how the integration with in-car hands free works. If i pick or enter a number with the car system, it actually automatically uses the last sim used to call that number. So you dont have to worry about choosing.
When calling from the phone, I guess it is a little bit more tedious to get used to huaweis method (I came from a dual sim LG G4, and there you had to swap SIM card calling, but you could assign numbers to sims so it would pick the sim automatically), but it took me around 1 month to not notice it any more.
There might be some third party Phone apps out there that can do this, but most of them are not that good overall - and googles own does not work with dual sim phones as far as I know.
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I get that, but I still can't even imagine why the Car mode can memorize which SIM card Called Which number, but this cannot happen to the non-car mode.
Especially since this feature existed in much older android versions.
Yuriksat said:
I've been using True Phone for many years - previously with Xiaomi double-sim, now with Huawei - no problems at all. You can assign numbers, save the latest used as a default, etc.
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Thanks for the tip. I will check it out. Although, using a Dialer in 2018 is not my best choice. It reminds me my Experia X10 and its terrible UI.
I tried Dual SIM selector.
The basic principal works for me, but it doesn't work every time, and it is tiring.

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