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3G Network...Is it Possible?

hi there guys.is it possible to get the XDA2's on the 3G network.A family member want smy old PDA but is on the 3 Network! Need to no if there is a flash,Rom, ect...
Thanks layton

Now theres's 'Three' the mobile operator and theres '3G' the technology.
As I understand it, Three's SIM's can be a pain so it's best to just put the SIM in and see, if you can.
I'm quite sure that you can't get 3G on a BA though, regardless of operator or ROM, quite simply because the BA doesn't have the hardware for it.

About the SIM card: 3UK Sim cards are supposed to only work in 3G phones (different type of SIM card). There are some older 3UK Sims that do work in a 2G phone such as the BA. But 3 will be able to find this out an either send you a replacement Sim, or terminate your contract and make you pay the remainder - you broke their T&Cs.
Network: If you have a 3 SIM that works in your BA, you will not actually be using the 3UK network. You will be roaming onto O2 (or Orange from Jan 2007) permanently. The BA is not a 3G device.

yes i understad that the 3g simcards dont work on 2g phones.but u can get a phone which is on 02,orange...for examplea nokia n70.if the phone is on o2 u can flash with 3G software and will work on three.i was just wondering if it might be possible.this is also possible on sony ericcsson 2g phones.i have the phones to prove it.

You can ONLY use 3G services if your device supports 3G. The Nokia N70 DOES. The BlueAngel DOES NOT.
You don't have to flash the phone with the Network Ops variant, just enter the network settings and it will work that way.

Kaiser keeps switching from 3G to Edge

A friend of mine just purchased the Kaiser to be used on the at&t network. He lives in a 3G area in the USA and for some reason, his phone will not hold the 3G connection. It wants to switch to Edge. Is there a manual setting to stop this from happening or a new utility to enable/disable certain connection. Is this normal for 3G to do this. Any information I can pass on would be greatful.
Thanks

I think it's an indication that 2G is stronger than 3G in your area. My Kaiser always hold 3G connection all the time where I live. You can "manually" force 3G. Here is one the many ways to do it: on Windows Start menu, go to "Setting" then "Phone" (on the "Personal" tab), click "Band" tab, then use "WCDMA" for network type selection (default is "Auto")

Thanks for the help. I'll pass it on.

While the Kaiser is my first ppc type phone and I cannot claim to be expert I do think that this is a normal reaction of the phone to what networks are available.
I live in San Jose Ca. and must, perchance, move up and down the peninsula in the normal course of work and life.
I see my Kaiser switching from Edge to 3G to unnamed all up and down the peninsula. It is best for 3G in the cities and worse up in the hills -as one might expect. I also get the best 3G connections in the evenings and night vs. the daytime when, I assume, more 3G users are taking up bandwidth.
It is unfortunate that where I live is an Edge (during the daytime) area though I am paying for the 3G data plan.

3G issues with the TyTnII
Hello all:
I post on the AT&T HTC forumn and had this thread sent to me by another poster there.
I also have a TyTnII newly aquired from MobilePlanet on Weds. I am having the same issues with 3G. It briefly flashed the G icon on boot up then switches to Edge with all 5 bars. I've tried the manual mode fix, no luck. The wcdma gets no signal and the gsm goes back up to 5 bars same as auto.
Then theres the inability to register my serial # on HTC's EU site. Says SN is invalid... MP has had several reports of EU devices doing this.
I'm in the US, NorthEast NJ area. And in the middle of a known 3G area.
Bill

Can anyone help Bill out? How many of you CAN use 3G on the USA at&t network without a problem? He's trying to see if it's a setting issue or a phone issue. I'm not in a 3G area so I can't help him here.
Thanks

wise87 said:
Can anyone help Bill out? How many of you CAN use 3G on the USA at&t network without a problem? He's trying to see if it's a setting issue or a phone issue. I'm not in a 3G area so I can't help him here.
Thanks
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I get a 3g signal when I go into Philly (I live about 45 minutes outside the city) It holds it just fine as well. Is it possible you just have weak 3g coverage where you are? I actually shut off the 3g on my phone as I have no 3g coverage at work or at home and the 3g connection discharges the battery in a hury.
I'm on AT&T as well.
Oh - BTW - I also can't register my phone with the eClub either. I sent an Email to the HTC Webmaster but have not had any reply in 3 days. I'm not too confident in HTC's support.

Am I connected to 3g?

Hi,
How can I check if my diamond is connected to 3G? My O2 Ignito always displays the 'G' icon in the top corner. I am yet to see it display '3G', but I know this icon exists.
When I click it the 'connectivity' pop-up comes up and says:
mobile web (GPRS, 3G)
I am in a 3G area, I have checked on here:
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/map.asp
But to me it doesn't seem like 3G speeds.
Thanks

When you are connected to 3G doesn't the thing next to the signal icon change to say 3g?

I'm in the same boat with my O2 handset, I'm in an area that's allegedly covered by O2's 3G coverage but the only thing I've ever seen is G or E (for EDGE); I've never seen the 3G icon.
I realised yesterday though that my SIM card might not be 3G compliant as it's the same SIM card I'm still using from my very first O2 contract phone from back in 2005 so I'm going to ask in an O2 shop this weekend whether that could be the problem.

I have had much discussion with O2 concerning 3G reception. I live in a 3G area and yet do not receive it on my Ignito. If i take my sim out and put it in a Nokia I get 3G. O2 replaced the handset - same issue. It seems HTC devices do not have a good 3G reciever in them. It diplays H when you have 3G - O2 quote "H is superior to 3G and provides the fastest data transfer". I've been asked by O2 to monitor my 3G reception and give feedback to them, so that they can give feedback to HTC! If I continue to not get 3G coverage they have offered to look at another handset for me!

The phone displays H when it has a 3G signal. H is the fastest data service in the UK and is faster than 3G - quoting O2 here.
I have also had problems with receiving 3G. If i put my sim in a Nokia handset it works fine, but not in my Ignito. They changed the handset - second one the same. It appears the receiver in the Diamond is not very good at receiving 3G. O2 have asked me to monitor how I get on and give them feedback, so they can get back to HTC!

I have looked into this with o2 Corporate as I have a works Ignito.
It appears that it was worth a phone call as the guy I spoke to seem to know his stuff and apparently sorted me out.
I have never had the 3G logo on my Ignito, so out of interest I rang o2 to question my speeds.
1. They told me my SIM is so old it is 2G, so they have sent me a new 3G card.
2. They state that my account has been set up wrong in that I have never been upgraded to the faster speeds, the Tech guy told me that when my phone is showing ‘H’ after a speed test it is actually running 3G!
3. They have now moved me from something called ‘virgin 5’ to ‘virgin 6’, as I have never been upgraded, which will mean that when available I will get 1.2 MB/s!
4. Apparently the Ingnito software has not got the 3G logo in it so will not show 3G only H. (or E for Edge or G for GPRS, if not on the higher speeds)
5. Because of the wrong SIM and not upgrading me automatically, Cheeky bastards!

Thanks for your help, I would of never known it would of been a SIM problem.
Do you now receive a constant 3G connection?
Do O2 correct this free of charge?
I would also be interested in other O2 Ignito customers find there 3G reception.

Hoew to get better signal
Hi Gets
If you need to get better 3g signal, why don't you just change the radio.
I had same kind of issue with the original radio. I updated 1.05.25.BS14 and I have brillint 3g signal all the time.

I went into the O2 store today, they gave me a new SIM straight away, no questions.
Now it runs great!

O2's 3G reception is diabolical at the best of times....from past experiences on their network...one of the major reasons why i went back to Tmobile...their 3g network is very good and fast. Never fail to get the H icon 95% of the time when using my phone.

[Q] Hutchison 3G Problems/ Three / Drei Problems

Found the solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530&highlight=edge+toggle
works also on ics !
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First of all hello,
maybe some people know this problem.
Hutchison 3G Problems/ Three / Drei however named is a network provider in various countries.
Like in Austria if you have not a strength 3G signal, your phone will switch to another network provider called A1 (Vodafone) it is national Roaming and only 2G, but it's free because they have a contract.
The big problem at this point is that if you get back to a place where 3G signal is good the phone doesn't switch back automatically. So I have to search for the network manually and that is really annoying.
In original roms from Hutchison 3G in Austria the search at least every 3 minutes for the 3G network if the are in the Vodafone network.
What I didn't say before is that Hutchison 3G has no 2G network in Austria that is the reason for the contract.
So I'm searching for a script or something else which gives me to opportunity to switch to Hutchison 3G or a automated script which does the job.
Greetings

Hi and "Servus"
did you try
*#*#197328640#*#*
-> Debug Screen -> Phone Control -> Network Control -> Band Selection -> GSM Band -> GSM all
(or stay 3g all the time with "WCDMA" on)
viel Glück!

you guy rock! that works now it would be awesome to write an app for that... I could write an app, but I need the source from the debug screen ...
danke ;-)

ok found a shortcut code to the band selection *#*#2263#*#*

crazyjosi said:
Found the solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739530&highlight=edge+toggle
works also on ics !
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First of all hello,
maybe some people know this problem.
Hutchison 3G Problems/ Three / Drei however named is a network provider in various countries.
Like in Austria if you have not a strength 3G signal, your phone will switch to another network provider called A1 (Vodafone) it is national Roaming and only 2G, but it's free because they have a contract.
The big problem at this point is that if you get back to a place where 3G signal is good the phone doesn't switch back automatically. So I have to search for the network manually and that is really annoying.
In original roms from Hutchison 3G in Austria the search at least every 3 minutes for the 3G network if the are in the Vodafone network.
What I didn't say before is that Hutchison 3G has no 2G network in Austria that is the reason for the contract.
So I'm searching for a script or something else which gives me to opportunity to switch to Hutchison 3G or a automated script which does the job.
Greetings
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u will never get 2G on 3 (three) cos they simply dont broadcast it .. just 3G ..

Is Moto G 2nd Gen 2014 incompatible with Three

When I put my Three SIM in my Moto G 2nd Gen 2014, I can't get a signal at all and it doesn't list Three under Networks. Is this phone incompatible with Three? If so, that's a major downside as Three is the most competitively priced (3p/min, 2p/text, 1p/MB) in the UK and I would have probably bought a different phone if I'd known this.

doveman said:
When I put my Three SIM in my Moto G 2nd Gen 2014, I can't get a signal at all and it doesn't list Three under Networks. Is this phone incompatible with Three? If so, that's a major downside as Three is the most competitively priced (3p/min, 2p/text, 1p/MB) in the UK and I would have probably bought a different phone if I'd known this.
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The only Motorola phone listed on their site is the Moto G 4G. They go on to state "If you're using a phone that we don't have in our device support, we may still be able to help you set it up. Your phone will need to be unlocked so you can use it with a Three SIM. If you bought your phone or Mobile Broadband device from another network, you may need to get it unlocked before you can use it with a Three SIM.
To do this, you'll need to contact your old network and get an unlocking code. They might call it a DCK or Depersonalisation Control Key."
Here's the page I referenced.
http://support.three.co.uk/SRVS/CGI...cat=billing,varset_subcat=3772,Case=obj(3714)

Thanks but it's already unlocked. It seems Three use 2100Mhz and as far as I can tell, this phone doesn't support that frequency, although it's hard to find definitive information.
This US site refers to the Global GSM Model supporting 2100Mhz for UMTS/HSPA+ but not for GSM/GPRS/EDGE but I'm not entirely sure what that means in terms of using it for phone calls, not data (which I'm using an EE SIM in SIM2 for, although that only has 100MB/month free, so I was intending to use the Three SIM if I needed to exceed that) http://www.motorola.com/us/smartphones/moto-g-2nd-gen/moto-g-2nd-gen.html

I can tell you it definitely does work on Three Mobile as I use Three in mine, Three Mobile is a 3G (and 4G) only network if you are using two SIMs in your phone it can only connect one of them to 3G at a time which if you are using the EE SIM on 3G the Three SIM will only show emergency calls only.
Turn off the phone and power it back up with only the 3 SIM in SIM1 that way it should definitely get a connection, if it doesn't the SIM card may be deactivated or you don't have a 3 signal where you are
(you could also try with both SIMs in the phone go to Settings>SIM cards> then under Data Behaviour set Mobile Data to whichever the 3 SIM is in)
If you want to use the EE SIM for data and the 3 SIM for calls essentially you can't Three is a 3G only network so won't work in this phone unless you have the 3 SIM connected via 3G then the EE SIM connected to 2G which has a 2G network.
This is the UK page for the Moto G 2nd gen http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-G/motorola-g-gb.html it supports GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) and UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz) it supports all the bands all the networks use for 2G and 3G
It can be a tad confusing with bands and such it doesn't matter about the GSM for Three only the UMTS/HSPA+ matters.

jay2the1 said:
I can tell you it definitely does work on Three Mobile as I use Three in mine, Three Mobile is a 3G (and 4G) only network if you are using two SIMs in your phone it can only connect one of them to 3G at a time which if you are using the EE SIM on 3G the Three SIM will only show emergency calls only.
Turn off the phone and power it back up with only the 3 SIM in SIM1 that way it should definitely get a connection, if it doesn't the SIM card may be deactivated or you don't have a 3 signal where you are
(you could also try with both SIMs in the phone go to Settings>SIM cards> then under Data Behaviour set Mobile Data to whichever the 3 SIM is in)
If you want to use the EE SIM for data and the 3 SIM for calls essentially you can't Three is a 3G only network so won't work in this phone unless you have the 3 SIM connected via 3G then the EE SIM connected to 2G which has a 2G network.
This is the UK page for the Moto G 2nd gen http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-G/motorola-g-gb.html it supports GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) and UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz) it supports all the bands all the networks use for 2G and 3G
It can be a tad confusing with bands and such it doesn't matter about the GSM for Three only the UMTS/HSPA+ matters.
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Ah thanks, that clears that up. Shame I won't be able to use it with the EE SIM in SIM2 for data though. I'll have to choose between the free 100MB/month with EE or using the Three SIM for cheap calls and texts (and data if I need to exceed 100MB/month). Problem is, if I just use the Three SIM it was pretty pointless me getting a Dual SIM phone!
I'm at home most of the time, so I only leave the EE SIM on 2G (to save battery) to maintain connectivity to things like Telegram and IM apps in case someone wants to contact me and then I turn the WiFi on if I'm going to be doing anything substantial. It's useful occasionally when I'm out to be able to check e-mail, use Maps, etc but it'd be rare for me to exceed 100MB/month so it was ideal really. With Three, that 100MB/month would only cost me £1 but every little counts.
If I set Mobile Data to SIM1 (Three) and enable both SIMs, it alternates between the 3G symbol and H next to SIM1 with three bars, whilst SIM2 (EE) has full bars. If I deactivate SIM2, it also greys out the Mobile Data button, although it stays in the On position, so I'm not sure if it's deactivated or not. I still see the H symbol, occasionally changing to 3G and three bars for SIM1.
After doing this, if I switch Mobile data back to SIM2 (EE) (which again disables the Three SIM) and then go into Mobile network settings for SIM2, I can no longer switch the network type to 2G, as it only shows 3G.
If I switch the SIMs over, so SIM1 is EE and SIM2 is Three, with Mobile Data set to SIM1, then both are active with SIM1 on full bars with no symbol, not even H and SIM2 on 2-3 bars with the 3G symbol. SIM1 is set to 3G and still the 2G option is missing, even though it must clearly be on 2G as SIM2 is using 3G and SIM2 has Data disabled, so I don't really understand why it shows the 3G symbol.
Looking more closely at the Mobile network settings shows that SIM2 is actually still the EE SIM and SIM1 the Three SIM, which is weird as they're definitely the other way round. If I enable Data on SIM2 (EE) that cuts off SIM1 (Three) again, so there's no advantage in swapping the SIMs over in this way. In theory I should be able to put the EE SIM on 2G, which would at least keep my IM, etc apps connected at home and then be able to use the 3G for the Three SIM for voice calls and switch the Data to 3G on the Three SIM if I need more speed when out but it doesn't seem to be possible, as the 2G option disappears for EE with both SIMs in but is there when using the Sainsbury's SIM in place of the Three one. So it seems that if SIM1 only works on 3G, as Three does, it forces SIM2 to use 3G as well and as the phone can't provide 3G for both SIMS, it prioritises the data SIM2 and disables SIM1

I can't say I've done as much testing as you but mine shows the same as yours if I set the EE sim to data I cannot force it down to 2G only any more where I could if it is the only SIM in SIM1.
But I know how you feel, over Christmas I was temporarily on EE because of a free data offer and it was very annoying having to have my 3 SIM turned off so I could use the free data and then every so often having to turn the 3 SIM on to check for missed texts, luckily most people use WhatsApp which wasn't affected because that's data based, but still it was inconvenient.

Yeah, I had that EE Christmas offer, something crazy like 200GB/2 months. I barely made a dent in that
Even with my Sainsbury's SIM in SIM1, if I disable that then the EE one in SIM2 (with Data enabled) gets fixed on 3G, with no option to change it but as soon as I enable SIM1, the option comes back.
I guess what I could do is give everyone my EE number to call/text me on, then only disable that and enable the Three SIM when I need to make an outgoing call or text, instead of paying EE's crazy 30p/min, 12p/text. The disadvantage is that if anyone tries to call me whilst the EE sim is disabled then it will go to voicemail and I'll have to pay 30p to listen to it! Not to mention being fiddly and a pain.
So I might see if I can use the EE SIM for data alongside an Asda Mobile one at 8p/min, 4p/text, 5p/MB as I don't make that many calls or texts (I tend to use Chatsecure instead) and I don't anticipate using much data over 100MB/month anyway.
EDIT: Seems that Asda actually uses the EE network, lol. So I guess that should work fine in SIM1 as a 2G call/text SIM, whilst the EE one works in SIM2 as the 2G/3G data SIM.

Sounds like a plan, I personally would steer clear of giving people two numbers cause that would probably end up being a pain for you and them, I agree ASDA mobile is probably your best bet for a call/SMS SIM that uses 2G.
PS the Dan and Phil SIM it was haha I cannot remember a single bad joke or random fact they sent whilst on that :laugh:

doveman said:
When I put my Three SIM in my Moto G 2nd Gen 2014, I can't get a signal at all and it doesn't list Three under Networks. Is this phone incompatible with Three? If so, that's a major downside as Three is the most competitively priced (3p/min, 2p/text, 1p/MB) in the UK and I would have probably bought a different phone if I'd known this.
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I joined Three as a network yesterday and have had nothing but trouble getting any sort of signal inside my house. I occasionally get some, and if I want to receive data I have to go outside. I have never had an issue when I was on O2 as a network. The crux of the matter is that I cannot receive data of any sorts inside any building. Is this the same problem you faced? If so, was there a solution?

BigDomTheFirst said:
I joined Three as a network yesterday and have had nothing but trouble getting any sort of signal inside my house. I occasionally get some, and if I want to receive data I have to go outside. I have never had an issue when I was on O2 as a network. The crux of the matter is that I cannot receive data of any sorts inside any building. Is this the same problem you faced? If so, was there a solution?
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No it's not the same problem, your problem is just a matter of signal, where the masts are, I'm on Three and get a signal in my house aOK but Three does have more of a problem with indoor signal because they only have a 3G network and only on 2100MHz meaning it doesn't go through walls very well, other networks have old 2G networks on 850MHz that travel through walls great and some have 3G on 900MHz. There is no solution really I'm afraid, you can use Threes WiFi app so you can make calls and texts via WiFi and you may be able to get a femtocell but that still uses your internet.
Coincidently Threes LTE network uses 800MHZ and 1800MHz so travels through walls far better than their 3G network does.