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*@&# AT&T

I fear that I will do something hasty like blow up my 8525 and go back to a razor and be done with it. Today, yet another let down, the 25th and no tilt, but I hear it will be out the 7th, oh wait maybe November or maybe Christmas. I have an idea, maybe all of those that are thinking of pulling another release date out of your ass you could show this message to a friend or family member. I say this because I would like them to break your fingers so you cannot type this **** anymore. Losing my f-ing mind in case you couldn't tell. Tired of waiting, and "officially" hate at&t.
If I end up getting a tilt I think it will be a giant let down considering how we have all built it up from all of the anticipation. Its kinda like hearing about a new movie and then finally seeing it and it sucks.

booo freakin hooo. Even if the Tilt was coming out today (09/25) it's not even noon EST and your complaining like a little kid. Go punch a pillow and wait like the rest of us.
I hope someone breaks your fingers so you can't type this **** anymore.

there was a story on CNN about people like this .. gadget fetish, to the point of it being an illness, they implied
i like electronic toys too, but i'm not quite ready to get violent about it.
i'm stuck using a 5 year old total POS nokia phone waiting on 8925, i'd be THRILLED to be using an 8525 in the meantime

I hope someone breaks your fingers so you can't type this **** anymore. [/QUOTE]
Like You? One thing I hate about the internet is everyones so far away. Times like this it would be so much nicer to be face to face, ya know. Besides *****, it was somewhat of a joke, Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing because its fun to come here but watch who you insult.

RacerX10 said:
there was a story on CNN about people like this .. gadget fetish, to the point of it being an illness, they implied
i like electronic toys too, but i'm not quite ready to get violent about it.
i'm stuck using a 5 year old total POS nokia phone waiting on 8925, i'd be THRILLED to be using an 8525 in the meantime
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I know what your sayin, I know I should be content with my 8525 i just cannot stand to wait. Maybe this is a lesson in patience for me LOL, I will try, sometimes you just gotta vent to your fellow ppc addicts

swtaltima said:
I fear that I will do something hasty like blow up my 8525 and go back to a razor and be done with it. Today, yet another let down, the 25th and no tilt, but I hear it will be out the 7th, oh wait maybe November or maybe Christmas. I have an idea, maybe all of those that are thinking of pulling another release date out of your ass you could show this message to a friend or family member. ..... Tired of waiting, and "officially" hate at&t.
If I end up getting a tilt I think it will be a giant let down considering how we have all built it up from all of the anticipation. Its kinda like hearing about a new movie and then finally seeing it and it sucks.
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Okay let me see if I have this straight:
1) you want to get a Kaiser
2) You are waitng for ATT to come out with one
3) You are loosing your hair and getting an ulcer because they cant pick what date they choose to actually deliver the aforementiond Kaiser
Would not the solution be to just go and buy one from one of the many people that are selling them now? I understand that you will have to pay more for it, but in the two months you are waiting for it I will have been using mine.
If it is a cost thing that keeps you from getting what you so badly desire then you have to take your share of the blame as when you made your purchasing decision you obviously factored in cost vs. wait time to get it.
Just my thoughts

swtaltima said:
Like You? One thing I hate about the internet is everyones so far away. Times like this it would be so much nicer to be face to face, ya know. Besides *****, it was somewhat of a joke, Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing because its fun to come here but watch who you insult.
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I was just quoting you buddy. Your obviously taking it to heart replying with an insult then saying "Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing" in the same sentence. Just silly web forum crap, don't take it so personal. Good luck getting your tilt.

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Okay let me see if I have this straight:
1) you want to get a Kaiser
2) You are waitng for ATT to come out with one
3) You are loosing your hair and getting an ulcer because they cant pick what date they choose to actually deliver the aforementiond Kaiser
Would not the solution be to just go and buy one from one of the many people that are selling them now? I understand that you will have to pay more for it, but in the two months you are waiting for it I will have been using mine.
If it is a cost thing that keeps you from getting what you so badly desire then you have to take your share of the blame as when you made your purchasing decision you obviously factored in cost vs. wait time to get it.
Just my thoughts
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Good points, although I should not be saying this but I have a friend at a at&t store who I refer allot of business to. I get these devices for literally next to nothing, prob like $0-$100 so buying an unlocked kaiser would not make sense. Just very frustrated.

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I was just quoting you buddy. Your obviously taking it to heart replying with an insult then saying "Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing" in the same sentence. Just silly web forum crap, don't take it so personal. Good luck getting your tilt.
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No hard feelings, just misunderstood. Oh and that was not my idea of being tough hence my comments after.

i am frustrated, too. i have been waiting for what seems like an eternity, and since I lost my PDA at the end of August, I am having serious trouble waiting any longer. For different reasons, I need to wait for the tilt to come out before i rush out to get a TyTN II.
funny, the delay of the tilt kind of took some of the luster off the Halo3 launch for me, too. I mean, Halo 3 is amazing, but I have this yearning for a tilt that won't leave me alone.
swtaltima, i think you are probably getting a lot less sympathy/slack here than you might at other forums because so many people here already have the TyTN II. i mean when i read your posts, I recognize your frustration.

Does the OP infer that AT&T offically posted a release date for the TILT?
Really?
Because if not, they broke no promises. ****, it hasn't been announced yet, has it? I wish people would shut up about the 8925/TILT until they've at least publicly acknowledged it exists. What's worse is, if they released it today and all the bugs weren't worked out, you guys would be the first to ***** about it. They can't win.
If you're in such a hurry to get it, do like the rest of us and open up your wallet. The Kaiser's been available for some time now.
-Mc

I dropped by my AT&T store at lunch to see if they had the Tilt. The girl said she had been off for the past four days so she would go check with the manager. The manager came out with his 'catalog' book and looked it up and said, 'No, we expect to see it on 10/15'. I asked about the Moto Q9 Global and was given the same date.
Whether they are clueless or not, I don't know. I originally got a Blackjack back on the 11th just to tide me over until the Tilt came out. Thinking that 30 days would be plenty of time for it to show up now appears to be quite naive on my part.

McHale said:
Does the OP infer that AT&T offically posted a release date for the TILT?
Really?
Because if not, they broke no promises. ****, it hasn't been announced yet, has it? I wish people would shut up about the 8925/TILT until they've at least publicly acknowledged it exists. What's worse is, if they released it today and all the bugs weren't worked out, you guys would be the first to ***** about it. They can't win.
If you're in such a hurry to get it, do like the rest of us and open up your wallet. The Kaiser's been available for some time now.
-Mc
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i don't see any reason people can't express frustration. no one is saying AT&T made and broke any promises. Quite the contrary, people are saying there is no need for AT&T to be playing everything so close to the vest. I think people are saying they would like to know where things stand and would appreciate updates from AT&T itself instead of leaked news and rumors. it seems natural to me, as a consumer, to want this information. people are frustrated with AT&T mainly because of its poor track record in customer service and its slavish devotion to the iphone as opposed to "better phones", and as a result, people think maybe AT&T is holding the tilt back to squeeze out more iphone sales or even 8525 sales. maybe that is not what AT&T is doing, maybe AT&T is trying very hard to make sure the Tilt is perfect before it is released. however, i can see why people may be less inclined to believe that and more inclinded to believe that the lack of info about the phone and the lack of launch details were concious decisions made by AT&T to sell more phones.
i know i feel kind of bad every time i go into an AT&T store to check on the latest buzz about the release and see a customer with a clueless phone rep checking out the 8525. now i am not saying the 8525 is not a good phone, by all accounts it is a great phone. what makes me feel bad is knowing that the customer may very well prefer to wait for the 8925 if only the sales person told them about it. however, i never see any sales reps doing that.

Spoke to the sales rep that signed me up to AT&T a few days ago. He mentioned that the 8925 is gonna be so castrated, that if you pay hypothetically 399.00 for it from AT&T, you will get a phone that's worth 399.00. I will take an educated guess that they will remove the video conferencing ability, the Internet sharing function and any other, "Super-Phone" ability the kaiser may have that will keep AT&T from ripping off their customers.
To be honest, if you really want the Kaiser, then buy it. If you wanna wait, then wait for T-Mobile, since they are a much more honest company.
I'm sure whats happening right now with AT&T and the 8925 is, they are testing it on their network and finding that they need to remove certain features before they can release it to the public. As soon as they are confident that they won't be shooting themselves in the foot by releasing a "super phone", then they will release it.
Just my opinion, and only my opinion.
JB

You want it like the rest of us... it will come out when it comes out - Not much we can do here. I'm still stuck with my nasty 8125. It will be a great upgrade skipping the 8525 I'm sure.
You need something else to tide you over... For me, it's Halo 3.

swtaltima said:
I know what your sayin, I know I should be content with my 8525 i just cannot stand to wait. Maybe this is a lesson in patience for me LOL, I will try, sometimes you just gotta vent to your fellow ppc addicts
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fair 'nuff, i'm with ya brother. i REALLY want that damn thing too !

Yeah, i'm using my 3125 while i wait for the tilt to come out!!
I'd really just like a launch date so i know where it stands and i can stop obsessively checking forums for release news

Buzz313th said:
Spoke to the sales rep that signed me up to AT&T a few days ago. He mentioned that the 8925 is gonna be so castrated, that if you pay hypothetically 399.00 for it from AT&T, you will get a phone that's worth 399.00.
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How does removing the front (and useless, to me) camera count as "so castrated" ?
Everything I'm seeing implies that will be the only difference between ATT's and the twice-as-expensive unlocked Kaisers.

this thread is pointless... you are getting pi$$ed off over a release date that was never even given by ATT ... if you want a kaiser then buy one, if you want to get pi$$ed then get pi$$ed at the people who told you the incorrect release date... please DO NOT open another useless thread like this.... this is a warning... a good ole' fashioned banning will come next

Still within my 30 Days....What should I do?

Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....

redsrule2500 said:
Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....
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I am also in the same boat. I was expecting more from it when it came to playing movies and just overall performance. Don't know if I should return it to newegg and void the att contract. Or if it would be better to keep the contract, sell the phone on ebay, and use that money to buy a different phone.

return them
I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.

Take It Back

return it...

RETURN IT
why? well the more HTC get returned etc the quicker they will pull their finger out and correct things and not allow such stupid mistakes

Just make damn sure that when you return it; you tell them WHY.
Hmm... The new 8gb Nokia N95 has just come out... Looks rather nice too...

All of you whom own a Tilt / Tytn II, T-mobile or other clone distributed by carriers should return this piece of ****ty hardware when not satisfied with the video performance.
Indeed, AT&T certainly would not have counted on such a return (and loss ) and will raise this towards HTC as loss of business.

Just return the ****ty thing and buy something that does what it's supposed to do.
And, for your own good, never buy anything coming from HTC. They're crooks, hypocrites and arrogant bastards who think that their customers are of a low enough IQ to be mocked in their face and still want to feed HTC money (this is exactly what comes out from their official response to the driver issue).

ahson said:
I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.
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It no iphone for me....no way. It has the same problems in limited capabilities as you have to convert everything and use itunes….no thanks!
Also, anyone have suggestions besides iphone??????

Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.

FloatingFatMan said:
Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.
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no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted

redsrule2500 said:
no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted
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Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!

FloatingFatMan said:
Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!
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Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device

redsrule2500 said:
Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device
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Yup. I bought my tilt last week so I still have two weeks to decide. I would return it today if i could figure out a replacement that does everything the Tilt does but better. I would personally rather have the Tilt than an Iphone even with the problems, and that nokia isn't doing it for me.

If you don't mind losing the internal GPS and the extra ram you could downgrade to the 8525 (Hermes). Nice thing is that there price has dropped considerably since the Tilt came out. For awhile there AT&T was selling them for $99...so you could probably find another site out there somewhere that would give it to you even better than this.

I'll trade someone my 8525 for their Kaiser

ha, I can't believe what im reading here! are u guys really that bitter. I honestly feel that even when (if) htc releases the fix, MOST of us will not notice a big difference in our daily use. I compare it to a bluetooth keyboard I purchased. before I bought it, I was going crazy, thinking I needed one, etc. once I got it, I don't think I've ever used it.
don't get me wrong, I would love the drivers, but other than that I love my phone. great internet, great gps, full keyboard, etc. there is honestly no other phone id rather have.

My Warranty ends tomorrow. I think im just going to keep the damn thing. Sure the video converting sucks. but, I got the Camera to work (thanks to Navadi), and I havnt watched a movie on my mobile in awhile. At least the reception is flawless. I have better reception than most of my friends and family. with the same provider, AT&T.
In my house NO ONE gets reception. and I can have a full conversation inside my house perfectly.
My brother who owns the Iphone. He has to walk outside in order to talk on his phone.
Oh and yeah the full keyboard is much better than the Iphone at Texting.
Oh and dont get me wrong I am disappointed with HTC with the way they are handling this situation. Atleast be helpful, rather than leaving us with a "F**k you, we got your money, you got what you paid for." what they did was false advertise.
The problem is, in the U.S. The phone is still better than majority of all the other phones out there. OBviously not in Europe. but here. Yeah.

I've had both the iPhone (Returned it) and now I have the TILT...i prefer the tilt.
I know the video situation sucks but I think the phone is still good overall

Is it wrong to return a phone because i accidentally scratched it(within 30 days)

I bought my phone from best buy less than 30 days ago, i still have my receipt and all.
my phone is also rooted.
sadly it slipped out of my hand and has a scratch on the touch screen.
if i returned the phone for an exchange, would best buy honor it?
the phone works fine..but if i can can a new one before my 30 days it up, i would like to.
* do the phones update automatically..assuming best buy still has the phones running 1.5.
If i remember right, they did not attempt to update my phone when i got it. they just transfered he service and gave the phone on as soon as they gave it to me.

primerib said:
sadly it slipped out of my hand and has a scratch on the touch screen.
if i returned the phone for an exchange, would best buy honor it?
the phone works fine..but if i can can a new one before my 30 days it up, i would like to.
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Are you kidding or

Ive returned phones before.
my concern is whether ill be stuck with sprints unrootable 2.1

I am just confused is this a joke? Honestly I would be surprised if they give you another phone. I could see them giving you a samsung moment or something but I guess their customer service is always the best during the first thirty days.

lol this for real ?

Make sure you get a screen protector this time.

do it up, i bought my htc hero less then a week ago 24 hours after purchase i had updated, then found out about rooting. returned it promptly and told them i updated and it runs like crap and i want nothing to do with it now, they swapped it out in less then 5 mins...
Zaggs invisible shield is the best screen protector ive ever owned, lifetime warranty its a bit pricy but well worth it... best buy mobile employee will even put it on for you at time of purchase

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do it up, i bought my htc hero less then a week ago 24 hours after purchase i had updated, then found out about rooting. returned it promptly and told them i updated and it runs like crap and i want nothing to do with it now, they swapped it out in less then 5 mins...
Zaggs invisible shield is the best screen protector ive ever owned, lifetime warranty its a bit pricy but well worth it... best buy mobile employee will even put it on for you at time of purchase
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does the 2.1 update look different from the 1.56?
(assuming the person at the register knows the difference between the firmware)

please stop posting about stuff like this, this is the MOST infuriating thing to read. people complain about phones being so expensive, and this is why. IT WAS YOUR MISTAKE!!! deal with and learn to keep it in a case with a protector next time. honestly if you do replace it I hop you DO get 2.1, karma is a b!&*h.

I still would like to see one shred of evidence correlating high phone prices with people returning phones within 30 days.
These phones are expensive because these manufacturers have delusions as to the value of their creations.
I say if you are within the 30 days and you want to eat it, **** it out and promptly return it to Best Buy for a new one then by all means go for it.
Sorry for the interruption. Now, everyone please continue to have a nervous breakdown over this...
as for the OP....good luck getting them to exchange it for you considering the quite obvious scratch they are going to see.

As the poster above stated, what is the relation in returned phones and high prices? And the OP just asked a simple question, so let's answer nicely.
OP, what harm could be done from going? If I were you, I'd give it a shot.
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A small word to OP and all a-like:
We are here on a site that frequently voids warranties.
So when we do anything to the device that harms it in any way, we ought to take full responsibilities for our own actions, and not to result in actions that could be described as fraud.
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Nexus one stolen. Should I buy another?

So.... my car got stolen (from a underground "secure" parking spot too), and my Nexus one was in the car. And no we didn't find the guys who took it, but we did recover the car relatively in tack.
now the question. I loved my rooted Nexus One. Had lots of fun with it and it did everything I needed. But it was damn expensive as I bought it for AT&T.
The Samsung Captivate came out for AT&T.
Do I fork over the funds for a nexus one? $500 +
Or do I pick up a samsung Captivate ~$200...
or wait for some other option ....
dreamflux

If you do a ton of things that can only be done when rooted, a N1 will probably be your best option. I'd also wait a bit and see some of the reviews that the Captivate gets from different news sites.

Shouldn't your insurance cover that?

No matter what phone you get, it will never compare to the quick experience of the N1.
Sure, you might get a phone with a better screen, slightly better proc, or whatever, but
no matter what phone you buy, I don't think there will be anything QUITE like owning the
officially sanctioned 'google phone'. I think you'll miss always having the latest version of
android running at all times.

@GldRush98 no.... AT&T doesn't offer insurance on the google phone, and the policy of the car didn't cover personal items in the car....=/
@hollywooder - yah.... You've definitely described my sentiments.... that and I have many many peripherals.... but the idea of realizing that my phone would have effectively cost me over a $1000 is a bit tough to swallow.

If I were you, I would probably go with Captivate.
I'd be missing the trackball and flash though.

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@GldRush98 no.... AT&T doesn't offer insurance on the google phone, and the policy of the car didn't cover personal items in the car....=/
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AT&T doesn't? Man, that sucks. T-Mobile insures the Nexus One!

On top of everything else, I'd seriously think about purchasing WaveSecure for your next phone whether it be an Android, iPhone, or Blackberry. Well worth it for the ability to do realtime tracking of where your phone is. Hell, you could have probably found the guys still in your stolen car if you had it. Just me .02

@chesh420 I do have wave secure... that was part of the reason why I was able to find the car...was able to track it to the last known area before the battery died. Found our car a few blocks away. but alas the phone was long gone, either they got rid of it some how, or haven't turned it back on yet, or my nexus might have recieved some other horrible fate.
but yes.... A great endorsement to WaveSecure. .
But yes, Wave Secure was great

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@chesh420 I do have wave secure... that was part of the reason why I was able to find the car...was able to track it to the last known area before the battery died. Found our car a few blocks away. but alas the phone was long gone, either they got rid of it some how, or haven't turned it back on yet, or my nexus might have recieved some other horrible fate.
but yes.... A great endorsement to WaveSecure. .
But yes, Wave Secure was great
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Keep watching, the bozos might turn it back on after they figure out what a MicroUSB is. Or they'll sell it to Bob's Pawn....
Note to self... Write down IMEI.

That's a bummer...hopefully it will turn back up soon! At least there's a chance with WaveSecure.

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Do I fork over the funds for a nexus one? $500 +
Or do I pick up a samsung Captivate ~$200...
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Get the Dell Streak... its a monster and a game changer for those who are man enough to handle it

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@GldRush98 no.... AT&T doesn't offer insurance on the google phone, and the policy of the car didn't cover personal items in the car....=/
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Damn, that sucks. Insurance companies do whatever they can to get out of paying

but what if the low life finds a way to remove wavesecure? isnt there a way to stop them from deleting apps like wavesecure or mobile defense so we are still able to track the phone down?

i'd get a g1 and wait for the next great thing from htc and google. i've said it in a few different threads now, the 3g issues and no physical keyboard are the reasons.
given, i won't buy anything on contract.
when you used wavesecure to find your car, can you remote wipe before locating, and the app still gives you a location ? did you try instamapper and decide on wavesecure instead ?

I'm recommending the Captivate to my friends and family... but to a guy like you and me... I can't recommend the Samsung until a little more testing surfaces. Sure it has a little better specs but would you be happy using their crappy software forever if you are unable to root and flash custom roms?
I used to cook with Da_G back when we had Samsung Blackjacks and the Samsung stuff was pretty tight lipped compared to HTC. You'd think that company's would figure out that being able to mod phones increases sales. They should know that the bottle neck is the carriers contracts and we upgrade asap regardless.
Open the phone up, let us tinker and make it everything we can dream of, which will bring in more customers.
I know lots of the Samsungs can be flashed, which hopefully helps with unlocking the potential of the Captivate. Maybe pick you up a cheap $20 pre-paid to use until some more info comes out.

Make sure you call your carrier and get the IMEI banned, they will not be able to use the phone anywhere

@player911 - yah.... that's the way i'm feeling.... I think that ultimately spending another $500 for an N1 for another 5-6 months seems a bit pricey for my modding happiness. I'll hang in there and head back to my little nokia n95 brick for a while.... and see what I can find on craig's list for a used one for cheap. But yah.... I mirror your sentiments on the samsung
@xXJay_RXx I think Wave secure had an additional install that would notify if it was removed or something like that.... I can't seem to remember....
@ohgood - You can remote lock on wave secure with a message that pops up to whoever turns it on. It can say "return for a reward", or in my case " contact the police RE: case #". I left it on lock for a while and the sent the notification to remote wipe after we found the car and wrote off the nexus one.
@p00r -can't remember to imei #

If it were me, I would not buy it again and wait out for something else. My reason is because the N1 is a really expensive phone off contract and it just doesn't seem like a good deal as it was 6 months ago. There are and probably will be better options for the same price.
If the price were lower, I would go for it. But it doesn't seem like you can find a new one without forking over full price.

yah.... especially since now my only choices are ebay and criags list..... =/ Long Live N1

Warning not to buy Flytouch 3 or clones.

For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.

Update:
My Flytouch 3 is no more, at about 4 days old the charging battery exploded, melting the FT3 and scorching the computer desk.
I urge anyone thinking of buying one of the Ibex Flytouch 3's, or its clones (Superpad 2 or 3) - DON'T!

Fluffbutt said:
For god's sake, whatever you do, don't buy:
Flytouch 3 superpad 2 (or any of its clones).
The support forum is filled with problems with the clones, too many to list.
The Ibex Flytouch 3 originals have very poor batteries, supposed to be 8000 mAh (2 x 4000), and are more like 2 x 1800. Most people are having troubles getting them to accept a charge at all.
Their internal GPS is locked to China, SOME people have managed to unlock them by spending a couple of hours deleting caches, rebooting, trying to re-fix the satellites, repeat until working or give up. MOST people still have not managed to unlock the GPS from China.
Market ONLY shows the free apps (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). When you are sent to market from an email, website, or even the tablets OWN auto update service, it won't show the app you are looking for.
They MAY appear to be cheap value-for-money Android tablet alternatives; trust me, they ARE NOT. Save up more money and get a proper named brand tablet.
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Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?

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Why would people plauge the world with such horrific devices?
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People are always trying to find ways of getting a similar item for cheaper prices - I know, I did!.

Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert

i own this and for what i use it for its actually not bad updates are often and like all android devices its getting better with each one!
mind you my phone is faster ha

I got banned from there because they didn't want anyone warned of the faulty batteries, they're the most fanatic people over their FT3's.
So you assume I did a whole lot of things and it's my fault it exploded. You can assume anything.
"mess around with your battery config," - ChinaGrabber tell you to go to that forum for help, and do what's posted there. Now I'M to blame for doing just that?
It got buried under kitty litter because the fumes from burnt lithium batteries are toxic.
Shame on me?? you make assumptions!
PassingExpert said:
Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert
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*Mod Edit* let's keep it clean and keep the name calling to a minimum.

Alright, everybody chill out. No name callings.
@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
@PassingExpert: A one hit wonder from you? While I can't agree with either of you, I'd cut down on the name calling, because you aren't going to make many friends with that.
As for the rest of this thread:
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@Fluffbutt: Pics, or GTFO. Seriously.
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What makes you think I feel any need to prove this to anyone here?
It happened. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant to it happening and irrelevant to me..

my 32gb iBex Flytouch3 works perfectly. Would recommend iBex Flytouch3 (real FT3) to my friends.

I bought flytouch3 from taobao.com. It cost almost 250 USD.
It may be the most expensive one in taobao, but it works good.
It can standby at least 6 hrs, and the GPS works in Taiwan.
Market can show all apps including the charged apps.

I just bought one yesterday from chinagrabber, shame on me? From what I've gathered the information this is the best and most supported chinese tablet there is..

Yes another classic example of somebody not doing their homework before buying something and then blindly attacking it with a soldering iron and hacksaw.
I'm more than satisfied with mine, it's not the fastest piece of kit, but for €150 it's certainly worth the money if you have a good working knowledge of Android and now how to fix a few quirks.

If you read around the forums, there is support for all of them. I have yet to have found an issue that couldn't be remidied in one way shape or form. I bought mine for $150 US shipped. I'm no knocking Ibex. Just merely stating that their pad isn't the only option. Open minded-ness is what I'm getting at. I've heard a lot of bad things about ChinaGrabber's return policy's etc., and that left a bad taste in my mouth. I wanted an inexpensive pad with some support on the US side (I.e warranty issues). I know I could have purchased something else, but this was what I wanted.
Sent from a rooted SuperPAD clone with Android 2.2

I've now been playing with my FT3 couple of days and I'm very happy with it, with Tim5a rom everything works, Market (it shows paid apps if I buy them from my Android cellphone). GPS works well out of the box, it's fast, Youtube, Flash all working. Battery life is very good, I don't keep it on standby as it does eat the battery even without wifi off. If you've ever used a Android phone this feels like home and the performance is the same. Resistive screen just gets a little bit more to get used to compared to capacitive but it's really responsive. Videos play very nicely, only tried 720p but all worked without a single lag.

Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
/Maffien

Maffien said:
Hey this thread scared me at start but then it looks like it ended up very good.
cuz i'm waiting for mine to arrive and i wonder is there any complete guide how to speed it up and ect..?
Thanks in advance
/Maffien
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The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.

Don't.
Market ONLY shows the free apps not to mention all the other problems (something to do with fake sim numbers being too fake and illegitimate). For YOUR OWN sake don't buy this piece. Really if you want an ANDROID tablet then save your money and buy a legitimate Android Tablet from a well known manufacturer. It's the WORST money I've ever spent in my life. PLEASE don't waste your time. And if you do and are satisfied with a cheap poor generic excuse for an android spending hours upon end of your life downloading and installing firmware, then more power to you, have fun. I just wish I would have saved my money than to have given it to scam artists or try to get help from those who need to help sale more CRAPWARE by saying its all volunteer. Really really real. (Now watch how I get called names and treated like dirt for posting this on a thread that is titled: Warning not to buy Flytouch 3 or clones.) It's crazy how easy it is to get caught up by weirdos at crappad tv who act like they are helping the world or something not following any of there own rules. Please DON'T be fooled by the posts that follow this saying how good it is. Believe me, it is not. Save a little more money even if its just 100 or 200 more. Get a LEGITIMATE ANDROID TABLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh it's you Fluffbutt, I saw your whole song and dance on apad.tv the other day, not surprized they banned you. First you mess around with your battery config, then god only knows what else you did and then you blow up your tablet. Then claim it blew up on your desk.
Baring in mind no evidence what so ever anything really happened. Then you claimed that you burried your tablet under a load of used kitty litter, so couldn't show anyone the pictures to prove it, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.
PassingExpert
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Oh it's you PassingExpert, I saw your whole song and dance on xda-developers today, not surprized that everyone ignored you. First you troll around with your troll post, then god only know what else you did and then you troll. Then claim something about someone that is nothing but trolling.
Baring in mind you trolled. Then you trolled that someone said something somewhere else, so you couldn't show anything other than trolling, not surprized no one believes you. Shame on you.

Totally agree with you,mine is disco10 version,and use the tim5a rom very well.
phiit said:
The best guide is to install Tim5a rom the speed increase is very good, try it stock before upgrading to see the difference.
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