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IP65 style case for Athena?

Does anyone know of a supplier of IP65 rated cases (or something close to this), along the lines of the otterboxes http://www.otterbox.com/products/pda_cases/1900/ ?
There used to be a company that made clear perspex cases that I don't believe were rated to IP standards, but they looked quite nice. Can't find them anywhere on the net though, and cases purposly made for the Athena seem few and far on the ground.
TVM in advance!

Have you tried contacting OB, and seeing if they have a box that will fit the 7500? They prob. do...

dude, where do you work !! in a war zone ? don't forget that the athena can only take so much shock, although the case might be up to it you will have to pad it to protect the phone.

What an ugly case!
The ameo/athena still gets "ooooohs and aaaaahs" along with "is'nt it pretty, (pretty BIG), how do you answer it???" most times that people/nokia users see it.
OK, the ameo is'nt a beauty and its not small, why would you want to make it uglier and bigger?
maybe you have a job where it gets knocked around alot (like a night shift raiding villages in iraq under mortar fire - (well noticed ice-coffee)
however, i think i know why you need to protect your valuable piece of kit, and also why making it uglier/undesirable and bigger/impossible to lift and steal.................
Ive a feeling brummagum is not a real place??? however it is code for "i live in birmingham but i want out!!!!
I have seen many a nice phone stolen and many a person in birmingham robbed by demented hoodies that could spell "ppc"!
good thinking!!!! Now, how do i produce a 100000volt current that pulses across the metal housing of the ameo and frys any would be muggers

Did you look at Pelican? With some modifying something like this may work for you:
http://pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1060
You'll need to add some padding inside to keep the Athena form rattling around in there but you could utilize the extra space for accessories.
EDIT: This is IP67, not IP65 but, Christ, what are you going to do with it???

hedgemonstahinz said:
...however it is code for "i live in birmingham but i want out!!!!
I have seen many a nice phone stolen and many a person in birmingham robbed by demented hoodies that could spell "ppc"!
good thinking!!!! Now, how do i produce a 100000volt current that pulses across the metal housing of the ameo and frys any would be muggers
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Yep, Birmingham, Twinned with downtown Baghdad.
To be fair, I think in my OP, I went a bit OTT with the description, and whilst it would be nice to have a device that can save me in the event of the common drive-bys that go down, it was more of a well padded crystal case, something along the lines of http://www.pdamods.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CRDLX50 that I was after.

Oh, if only I'd used the search...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1965541

That Pelican 1060 case I linked to above also has a foam insert in the "Accessories" section.

[Q] dummy phone housing?

I found a dummy phone is much cheaper than buying a new housing. So i was wondering would it be possible to take the housing off a dummy phone and put it on my phone?

In short - NO. Dummy phones are only designed to look the part on the outside. Inside, however, they are nothing like the real thing and are not filled with anything, some are solid to add weight only. I never seen a dummy phone that was suitable for housing replacement, no matter how much it replicated the real thing.

Housings are not so expensive at all; about 20 dollars,
Look at Ebay? http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=so..._nkwusc=sony+ericsson+xperia+x1+houing&_rdc=1

they are made of plastic. definitely not. Just go buy a replacement

MuratNL said:
Housings are not so expensive at all; about 20 dollars,
Look at Ebay? http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=so..._nkwusc=sony+ericsson+xperia+x1+houing&_rdc=1
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Has anybody tried this FASCIA housing wichm most of them are from HK or china?
I don't know how they are, and I'm afraid.From what I know OEM are better than fascia. Me also I would pay 25 usd on a housing or 30 on a full housing (with slider part also). What do you recomend?

Ashan85 said:
Has anybody tried this FASCIA housing wichm most of them are from HK or china?
I don't know how they are, and I'm afraid.From what I know OEM are better than fascia. Me also I would pay 25 usd on a housing or 30 on a full housing (with slider part also). What do you recomend?
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Fascia means FACEPLATE, it's not a brand or means anything else, so not OEM vs Fascia comparison, rather an original product or a copy. The thing is, the original had multiple problems by cracking and falling apart all by itself, no misuse or abuse was needed, so it doesn't actually even matter which one you take. In all other cases OEM would be better.

so OEM it is not original but is better than a copy. Yeah I know about the cracks of the original ones but reading here i understood that this "fascia" are worse and I could spend the money for nothing in the end because it wouldn't fit.

If you end up buying a new housing on eBay, expect lower quality.
I ordered a body, it came with everything except for the back of the LCD (the part that has the slider that connects both halves together). The battery cover was aluminum (but lighter, less reflective paint). The plastic was quite light, and on the keyboard, where the seam is for the silver sides and the center section, the join is visible, not as nice as the original. However, the fascia was aluminum (or some other metal) - probably the best quality thing of it all, although the camera and light sensor holes seemed frosted.
I never got to using this body, but I'll keep it as a spare in case something disastrous happens.
tl;dr: Expect lower quality from eBay, will do the trick, may have missing parts.

[Q] Wholesale Parts from TVC - Any experiences?

I've seen people mention the website http://www.tvc-mall.com/ a few times, pointing people there for parts, accessories, cables, etc..
Has anybody actually ordered from them, and received their products in good condition, and correct to what they thought they were ordering?
I realize that they are overseas, and that shipping can cost more, but the products are very inexpensive to begin with.
Or, would I be better to pay 10x the price and order from US Vendors (that get their products from overseas also).
Looking for real purchasing experiences please..
Thank you,

I have had two sales transactions. I have purchased a new front gorilla glass, three car chargers, two pocket cases, three A/V cables. I used PayPal. The items arrived within five days of my order.
I really like the company for gold service and great prices.

Thank you for the response. Sounds like you would order from them again if you had a chance, or need?
I was just very concerned about the low prices, and the location from which it is coming from, but using Paypal would help me be a bit more comfortable.

Has anyone had any experience with replacing a screen digitizer of the galaxy tab?
I have a two huge scratches in the glass. I'm not sure when I replace the glass it is going to get worse. Then I don't have any scratches anymore but something else is wrong. Like the screen not fitting or the quality is worse or something like that....
"I crap by myself. I dont need iCrap....yet!"
transmitted from a Galaxy beyond your imagination.

seewhyphotos said:
Thank you for the response. Sounds like you would order from them again if you had a chance, or need?
I was just very concerned about the low prices, and the location from which it is coming from, but using Paypal would help me be a bit more comfortable.
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Yes, I love the prices and the fast, great service. The shipping costs are the bad thing, but TVC-Mall doesnt control that.
What are you ordering? I need a few things - maybe we could combine to save on the shipping - it's $30 to the US.

I replaced my front glass. It's pretty easy if you are familiar with replacing stuff in ipods and phones. Go see a video first. Google "front glass replacement galaxy tab" and see the tab tear-down video on youtube.

Ranger, I'm still looking around the site, but I am looking at a car mount, stylus, and some accessories for my wifes Epic 4G.
Combining an order sounds like a way to save on shipping.
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Ok, whereabouts are you? We have to think about the second shipping cost. I'm in Southern California.

rangercaptain said:
Ok, whereabouts are you? We have to think about the second shipping cost. I'm in Southern California.
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I'm in Austin, Texas. Not that far to drive it out to my front door.. <grin>

Road trip!

SAVFY Battery Case

Got a 'SAVFY' charging case for just £11.38 shipped off eBay. The battery of the S7 Edge seems excellent so far, but if, like me, you go on many football away days etc, you'll easily get through it in a day. Anyway, it looks as though SAVFY is just a knock-off Chinese brand, but I've used knock-off Chinese batteries before with good results (with one exception) and for less than £12 it seems a bargain. Here's an Amazon listing for the case: https://www.amazon.com/Charger-SAVFY-Portable-External-Rechargeable/dp/B01EN0JVAW
Mixed reception online it seems. One fella said the battery died after charging to just 30% (to me that sounds like a duff one), while others complained about the colours and tactility of the case. It claims to be 5200mAH but not sure how I'd really test that.
Quite a few of the negative comments are to do with the manufacturing materials, as such I would really advise anyone who does buy this case.....
BUY THE BLACK ONE. If you have a white phone, buy the black one, if you have a black phone, buy the black one, if you have a green with yellow spots phone, buy the black one. The reason why? The non-black colours are 'glossy', a bit like enamel or a hard plastic texture. One of the photos in the link above shows the Rose Gold one and you can see the hard plastic reflecting in the light. The plastic is also hard and feels brittle and will probably break if dropped.
The black one is different. It's still quite hard, but the outside material is like a rubbery texture. A bit like you get in some cars on the dash board. I doubt it'll be much better for absorbing impact, but I believe it will reduce the likelihood of bits of dust scratching the back and outer edges of your phone.
A few observations of my own:
- I personally am not all that impressed by the 'protective' level of this case. Large parts of the edge of the phone are completely exposed, so anything in your pocket could . I've done a few little (completely unscientific) tests using a table and the phone and I reckon if the phone hits the ground face down, you've got maybe 2-3mm of flex from the corners of the device, which is pretty much nothing. If it hits on the top you've got a reasonable 3-4mm and the bottom I'd say you're safe as it's protected by the thickest part of the case. If it hits the floor on an edge however, the amount of space between the phone and the floor becomes precariously low in my opinion. If you're lucky, it'll hit the phone on the back, bottom, or corners. Anything else could be curtains for this beautiful device.
- Not a negative, but it does add a fair bit of weight onto your phone (which tied into the point above...). It takes your phone from being a lightweight comfortable device to being, hmmmm, nearly the weight of a tablet I'd say. The case on its own weighs more than the entire phone. Fine in your pocket, but it does get a bit tedious holding it.
- No Micro-USB Cable was included. I know this sounds picky, but even the cheapest of cheap Chinese batteries i've bought in the past have come with a 5cm cheap cable to charge with. Come on?
Not had chance to actually try the case. It came charged up to the 4th light, so I will probably charge it up full and see if I can try it for a day. Don't really know how to test a 5200mAh battery, but my thinking is that it should be able to charge a S7 Edge from 0-100% then run it for a while too? Is that a terribly unscientific experiment? You betya.....

Tried it yesterday. Charged the phone from 27% up to 100% (while the phone was running too). It then charged it for about another 10-15% after (while running).
I call that a win.

skezza said:
Tried it yesterday. Charged the phone from 27% up to 100% (while the phone was running too). It then charged it for about another 10-15% after (while running).
I call that a win.
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How's it holding up so far?
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How's it holding up so far?
Sent from my LG G3 using XDA Labs
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So, I've used it a lot since then. I've been able to experiment with it a lot.
I think it's fair to say that it's better used keeping a fully charged phone, fully charged. Now, that might sound daft, but what I mean is, if you have your phone, run it down to 60%, then put it in the battery case, this seems to use more energy than simply leaving the phone in the battery case all day. I don't have any scientific explanation for this, rather I have empirical evidence.
The first few times I took it out, I did just as I describe above, allowing the phone to discharge to a moderate level, then re-charging it up. Suffice to say, in this scenario, the battery case will quickly run down to the 50% marker or even down to the 25% marker. This was fine, but obviously once the case is dead.... well, it's dead. Now you're onto your phone battery.
Instead, I tried it one day from 100%, so simply using the phone in a constant state of charge. Now, the case itself does occasionally switch off (perhaps it's wired to detect when the phone gets to 100%). I simply flick it back on. In this scenario, I was able to keep the phone at 100% all day (despite using it A LOT), and only use about 25% - 50% of the charge case. By 8pm, there was still plenty of charge left in the case and my phone was still at 100%.
As I said, I don't know the science behind this. I know that energy is often lost as heat, and it gets much warmer when charging from 50% than maintaining the phone at 100%. I know that charging via Micro-USB is also not 100% efficient. In fact, studies show that Micro USB is often inefficient.
With that in mind, I think I've given a pretty good example of how I use it. I think these are excellent cheapo battery cases, but don't use them to re-charge your phone to get maximum performance. Rather keep your phone in them all day, right from the minute you leave the house.

I am strictly against cheap battery cases. Heard a thousand stories about poor quality, no money back guarantee etc. I am a strict opponent of the "official" power cases also. The brand manufacturers spend zero time and effort on something worthy and innovative.
I would like to be proven wrong on my first opinion. Maybe I will buy some cheapo just to test it. I need more reviews and opinions on the SAVFY.
Meanwhile, the case market is hungry for innovations.
I admire brands like[URL="https://i-blades.com/samsung-phone-cases/galaxy-s7-edge-battery-life-case-memory/"] Nexpaq[/URL], I-blades and the uniVERSE Otterbox. If some of the brand manufacturers get the idea to make something similar there will be no time until cheap knock-offs appear on the market. I would definitely like to try some product of that kind

levjaskulski said:
I am strictly against cheap battery cases. Heard a thousand stories about poor quality, no money back guarantee etc. I am a strict opponent of the "official" power cases also. The brand manufacturers spend zero time and effort on something worthy and innovative.
I would like to be proven wrong on my first opinion. Maybe I will buy some cheapo just to test it. I need more reviews and opinions on the SAVFY.
Meanwhile, the case market is hungry for innovations.
I admire brands like[URL="https://i-blades.com/samsung-phone-cases/galaxy-s7-edge-battery-life-case-memory/"] Nexpaq[/URL], I-blades and the uniVERSE Otterbox. If some of the brand manufacturers get the idea to make something similar there will be no time until cheap knock-offs appear on the market. I would definitely like to try some product of that kind
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Thanks for replying. So my problem with the branded ones is they tend to be expensive..... and I mean really expensive!! Look at the Zero Lemon one. In the UK, that is currently £59 on Amazon. £59!!!??!!?! It's also $59 which in dollars, that might not sound too bad, but in UK money, that's seriously expensive for what is essentially nothing more than a big battery. I mean hell, you can buy a decent branded Universal battery pack with similar amounts of juice (or more), with several ports and some extra features for about £20. They're cashing in on the fact it's an S7 Edge specific accessory and the fact the people who own these phones either have big expensive contracts or earn decent money and therefore can afford to buy such a luxury product. Alternatively, you buy an original battery case from Samsung.... £54.99 and only 3100Mah. That's a joke. That's enough to recharge it once.....
I tried to look at the Otterbox but there was no price for the S7 Edge. I also looked at the nexpaq but there doesn't seem to be any details regarding the S7 Edge. While I think you're right to admire those two brands, and what they're doing is clearly innovative, something theoretical is useless to me. I came from an S4. I had two spares batteries in my wallet, which was ideal really because it meant I could switch any time I like and pretty much guarantee a whole weekend without my phone charger. You'd be surprised how often I used those spares. I reckon at least once or twice a week. I cannot do this with the S7 Edge. The Edge battery is good without a spare battery. Much better than the S4..... but like all phones, throw a few apps on, get some data connections running and boom, that battery soon disappears. I am a proper power user.
So, we look for answers and solutions that can give us something now. You can pay Zero Lemon £60 to sell you a posh, branded, ugly, massive case, which makes your phone into a brick.... or you look at the alternatives and you usually end up looking through eBay.
SAVFY are nothing special as far as I'm concerned. From what I gather they seem to be a company which buys cheap products and sticks their logo on. Many companies do that. In fact, some of the bigger brands do that as well. As with all labelled products, it's a gamble, you might get a good one, you might get a bad one. SAVFY were surprisingly good to me I found. So, I haven't mentioned that I decided to call them up over the fact my case appeared to discharge excessively if the phone was down to 50%, and they sent me another as a goodwill gesture for free. In fairness to them, they really didn't have to do that..... especially considering I've since found ways of making my original case last all day. It's quite possible this case is a 4000Mah battery or something similar, it's just losing charge through an inefficient charging procedure (micro-usb).
As for a guarantee, well, the thing was like £11. What kind of guarantee do you get for £11 man? You can't even buy a decent pair of shoes for £11 in England. Guarantees are something you get with £700 phones, or a £100 car stereo. To get a guarantee/warranty with something as cheap as that, very few places in England will give you one.... maybe ALDI but don't expect them to have a S7 Edge specific one, they only really deal with universal electronics.
To sum up, I made no really attempts to find a branded battery case. I looked through eBay, spotted SAVFY (a brand I confess to buying before) and decided that for £11 it was worth the gamble.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_o...+case.TRS0&_nkw=s7+edge+battery+case&_sacat=0
As you can see, eBay is awash with unbranded/generic branded battery cases. Some are labelled (wrongly) as 8000Mah... I would keep well away from those. Some are labelled 5200Mah. I believe they're the ones where the seller has been as honest as possible. It's completely impossible for any of these cases to be an 8000Mah, otherwise they'd be huge like the Zero Lemon. Science y'all.
Finally, I decided to have one crack at finding a branded case on eBay that wasn't a generic one, and wasn't super expensive. Nope. Literally not possible. The closest I found was this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Roger-for...213594?hash=item3f73a63b1a:g:mFcAAOSwjDZYe-lS
An AUNSY (never heard of them) 5200Mah battery case for £36 delivered.
Hmm, where have I seen that case before
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Galaxy-Edg...&qid=1485533629&sr=8-1&keywords=SAVFY+s7+edge
Nah..... When someone gets their act together, they'll create a solid 5200Mah with a genuine dependable battery at an affordable cost with a small warranty and we'll all be very very happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v1OlFWxIls
Decent unboxing here, although he's gone for a shiny Gold one which I wouldn't recommended as it'll scratch your phone imo.

I just saw the misplaced link for I-blades. They are my most Samsung-friendly favorite brand. They have products for more and more Samsung models. Nexpaq and Otterbox stayed behind.
Previously I was referring to the innovations, not the price, though it is not so bad after all. I wish someday official Samsung product with the ideas from I-blades.

levjaskulski said:
I just saw the misplaced link for I-blades. They are my most Samsung-friendly favorite brand. They have products for more and more Samsung models. Nexpaq and Otterbox stayed behind.
Previously I was referring to the innovations, not the price, though it is not so bad after all. I wish someday official Samsung product with the ideas from I-blades.
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100 dollars dude

skezza said:
100 dollars dude
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I'm actually pretty tempted to buy it. I've looked through many options for battery cases but I always see there's some kind of faults with them. Either they're not protective enough or just doesn't hold its charge.
This case on the other hand, has a benefit of analyzing the air around me. I'd like to know how is the air in my work environment working in a warehouse so I may know that I should wear some extra protective stuff. Despite the Smartblade adding an ugly bump, I hope the magnet attachment is actually strong enough to just slide off if I put it into some pants I have with slim pockets. And the other thing I hope is the battery being pretty large enough to actually extend battery life better than what I have now.

GigaSPX said:
I'm actually pretty tempted to buy it. I've looked through many options for battery cases but I always see there's some kind of faults with them. Either they're not protective enough or just doesn't hold its charge.
This case on the other hand, has a benefit of analyzing the air around me. I'd like to know how is the air in my work environment working in a warehouse so I may know that I should wear some extra protective stuff. Despite the Smartblade adding an ugly bump, I hope the magnet attachment is actually strong enough to just slide off if I put it into some pants I have with slim pockets. And the other thing I hope is the battery being pretty large enough to actually extend battery life better than what I have now.
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And you believe it?

skezza said:
And you believe it?
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With the rapid advancement of electronics the days, this fits with the timing. I already preordered it and hopefully it comes fast enough for me to try and give a first depth review here.

GigaSPX said:
With the rapid advancement of electronics the days, this fits with the timing. I already preordered it and hopefully it comes fast enough for me to try and give a first depth review here.
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Cool, by all means do.
Just an update. Charged from 0% to 100% with the SAVFY case yesterday, and run at the same time.
Not bad.

skezza said:
Cool, by all means do.
Just an update. Charged from 0% to 100% with the SAVFY case yesterday, and run at the same time.
Not bad.
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What makes you so much of a skeptic with attitude? If the case doesn't work as intended, I can always return it for a refund.

GigaSPX said:
What makes you so much of a skeptic with attitude? If the case doesn't work as intended, I can always return it for a refund.
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It's a 100 dollar case.... In England, with tax, it'll probably be the same. £100 for a fancy phone case?
It sounds like snake oil to me
I would happily spend midrange money but £100?
No thanks.... And I have a feeling people will be more keen to take a gamble on a cheap Chinese case than one which costs a days pay for most.

This video is the newest and the closest thing to review I've come across so far. They do go slow but it promises a quality product. I changed my Galaxy with a Note 5 but still I am looking forward the product. I am waiting for the Enviro Sensor Pack and then if I am satisfied will order the Battery/Memory Blade

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This video is the newest and the closest thing to review I've come across so far. They do go slow but it promises a quality product. I changed my Galaxy with a Note 5 but still I am looking forward the product. I am waiting for the Enviro Sensor Pack and then if I am satisfied will order the Battery/Memory Blade
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I've been meaning to call the company to see when they're shipping the case for my Galaxy S7 Edge since it's already March. I already ordered the whole thing since it's a cheaper option to go with instead of spending an extra $50 on the memory blade separately.

So I tried to disassemble my SAVFY battery case today. Didn't really want to come apart. There's a hefty lithium ion battery in there. Whether it's the described 5200Mah, who knows?
I've given mine an absolute battering this week. Using it every day without fail including in seriously hot temperatures and had no issues, so I think these SAVFY ones are pretty solid for the most part. Cheap energy when you need them. Mine is starting to show signs of wear and tear now, as I'm using it so much (the rubberized finish is coming off) but yeah, it's a fairly solid piece of kit i'd say.

any update on this, which one will you recommend? cause there are numerous battery covers, which one is fake, which one is good?
Powerbear (no kickstand)
https://www.amazon.de/PowerBear-Gal...8-1&keywords=powerbear+samsung+galaxy+s7+edge
Savfy
https://www.amazon.de/SAVFY-Samsung...&sr=8-5&keywords=savfy+samsung+galaxy+s7+edge
Mondpalast
https://www.amazon.de/Mondpalast-Sc...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=QG8BM6J5KT2PSR8TG5W9
etc

Ok no update then?
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My Review of the Schnail Titan Case for the Note 20 Ultra

Bought off Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CBNZGGR
Schnail Titan for Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Case (2020 Screenless Version), Military Grade Drop Tested Heavy Duty Full Body Protective Case with Kickstand - Black
Review posted to Amazon:
I don't mean to brag, but I'm a pretty tough guy. Work in the construction industry, do deadlifts for fun, intimidate most humans, and have the size and skill to back it up. Therefore, I need a tough phone case for my delicate phone. I don't have time for cracked screens or damaged phones so I decided to try out this Schnail Titan case, well because of how durable it looked but also the name TITAN! That fits my giant ego. I've dropped my phone twice by accident while messing with equipment with the other hand and both times the phone survived the fall. I'm 6'3" so the fall was from over 5-ft onto hard concrete/stone flooring. If it can survive the rigors of my life, then it can survive the non-rigors of yours.
The only slight negatives are as follows. I wish the top of the case sloped more so that when I go to lower the drop down menu with my finger it doesn't open the apps menu. If you don't know this, the new Android OS lets you swipe down on the screen to open the apps drawer. Also, I could use a little more rubber on the back side to give it more of a grip when placed face up on my diesel truck center console. Yes, I drive a diesel, but I don't hate the Earth. I use DEF. Instead of a plastic frame around the phone before inserting it into the rubberized case, I wish it was just a plastic top and bottom that inserted into rubber to add more protection. Not that it needs it, but would be easier for installation.
Bottom line. If you have clumsy hands, or really want to protect your new $1500 phone, then GET THIS CASE!

jtOttawa said:
I've called out the other "reviews' shilling for this product - but this is by far the worst. You are not only aiding and abetting an unethical marketing ploy to promote a product across various forums through inherently biased "reviews" generated by promotional discounts (something you should always disclose if you want to appear even remotely ethical) - but you chose to do it in a racist ("the Koreans at Samsung haven't figured out how to be "tough American men" like in the US") and extremely obnoxious (too many examples to list) manner - reported.
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While I agree the review was extremely obnoxious I don't agree with you reporting the original post of the person offering the cases. They are not selling anything. They are giving cases out free to XDA members for reviews. They have been doing this exact same thing for a while now for various phones so obviously XDA doesn't have a problem with it. Leave them out of this.

znel52 said:
While I agree the review was extremely obnoxious I don't agree with you reporting the original post of the person offering the cases. They are not selling anything. They are giving cases out free to XDA members for reviews. They have been doing this exact same thing for a while now for various phones so obviously XDA doesn't have a problem with it. Leave them out of this.
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Fair enough, @znel52 - while I disagree that giving away cases for reviews is 'not selling anything' (advertising is selling, it's a form of advertising, and a highly questionable form at that) - your point is well taken, and I've edited my responses accordingly.

I didn't follow through with the offer for a free case as the supplier was clearly lying. Their materials state they are a small american family owned company - but they must not speak English to well and the case is far to close to other designs to be original. They also required you to buy a note 20 case as well, no thanks.