I tried a few minutes ago to write an sms with the letter recognition fonction. I use to write all my sms with that with my Qtek S100 (I mate jam) and my HTC TRINITY. It use to work very well. I was able to write very fast.
However it completly unusable with the HTC TOUCH (ELf) and the DUAL (Niki). Even with the new Roms with drivers problems solved I can't manage to write well. It misses letters, do points instead of spaces.....
I fear to face that problem if I get a Diamond?
Can someone can tell me if it works smooth on DIAMOND?
Why did you post 2 threads??............
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401219
Cause I wanted to know if the others on the Niki forum had a solution for the Niki. And if the Diamond owner had this problem
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However it completly unusable with the HTC TOUCH (ELf) and the DUAL (Niki). Even with the new Roms with drivers problems solved I can't manage to write well. It misses letters, do points instead of spaces.....
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I must admit that I never used it much, but on the occasions that I did use the letter recognition feature on my Touch, it worked fine. That's why HTC use resistive touchscreens instead of capacitive...
I would expect it to work fine on the Diamond too...
It's the day and the night compared with my trinity. On my trinity I was able to write as fast as when I write at school
Got the same feelings here. Have to give it much more pressure and accuracy than I had to on my previous phone (Asus P535) which slows the writing alot. The crappy stylus that comes with Diamond is not much suitable for letter recognition writing (it's very small, plus the top one third is made of plastic), considering this it often bends a bit while I'm writing. Hope it won't break soon.
I haven't had a problem - use it all the time.
Have been using it all the time, love it. There's some letters that have to be written in a specific way, but when you get used to it it's as if writing on paper.
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Me again, my Kaiser is for sale now on Ebay and I'm waiting for the end of the auction; I complained a lot about the fact it is a very bad device for entertainment, but the pad really sucks also for everyday usage !
The two windows buttons around the pad, on the top, are too small. I tried to use my Kaiser as a phone for the first time today, but when I wanted to access the contacts using one of these two windows buttons, most of the time I also pushed the pad at the same time, I was about to throw my Kaiser away !!! Of course same problems when using the other apps of the Kaiser (calendar, etc ...).
Why the hell HTC designed this ****ing pad like that ??? It is too large, and the buttons around it are too small.
If only they would have reduce the pad to make it square (like on the old TYTN) then the buttons around it would be bigger and easier to use !!!!!!!!
A child could imagine that !!!
How much was paid the ergonomic designer of the Kaiser ???????!!!!
And to that I add the fact that the looseness of this pad is really annoying for me, it makes me think I'm using a cheap device.
I really want now my Kaiser to be sold quickly because as long as I will still have it, I will always want to give it another try, and each time I'm getting so nervous that I want to break it !
This is the first pocketpc, out of the seven I had, wich makes me so angry each time I'm using it. And it will also be the one I will have owned for a so short time ! (less than a month)
Too bad because its size is very good when you think about everything it has inside, on the paper it should be a close to perfect device, but the realisation and some conception defaults makes it really a "not worth it" device for me.
The only thing I really appreciated is the integrated GPS, and that's it !!!
Actaully, I like the Kaiser pad for the most part.
The flat keypad on the original Tytn is a pain in the ass to use, as you can't really navigate by feel (useful if you are trying to hit the answer key while reaching into your pocket). Using a completely flat d-pad means you hit the center button almost every time you try to navigate, and it makes diagonals almost impossible.
(Note: I never tried the sculpted keypad of the AT&T flavor of the Tytn - thought it was ugly and liked the flat look of the HTC branded Tytn better. Never will I choose esthetics over functionality again)
There's a Kaiser variant from T-mobile that uses a similar flat keypad design, though the d-pad is a little more sculpted. I don't understand why HTC doesn't stick with one D-pad design for all of it's models. It's pretty sad when the phone that has everything you need at the moment is ruined by a lousy physical UI.
Now, I do agree with you that the elongated d-pad takes some getting used to -- and I can definitely see that being either a love it/hate it thing.
My previous PPC/phones were a Tytn I, a Toshiba e800, and an HP 4150 (HTC design). If you think the Kaiser pad is bad try the e800! HTC got it right on with the 4150 design though, possibly the best Pocket PC I've ever used.
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Actaully, I like the Kaiser pad for the most part.
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But there are still people who complain and cry for there own stupid mistakes.
A little tip: go to a shop next time and try a device before you buy.
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But there are still people who complain and cry for there own stupid mistakes.
A little tip: go to a shop next time and try a device before you buy.
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in a shop, using the device for 5 minutes, does not tell you if you will get use to it (if the seller does allow you to play with it for 5 minutes !).
I also would be glad to know the interest of such a large pad.
Just sell it and buy an other pda and go on with your live.
Don't make such a difficulty of it.
It's not good for your stress level.
I've never had problems with my D-Pad. I'm able to use it just fine without feeling that it's that small. It cold have been a little prettier but it's okay. About the loussiness, maybe it's made that way to protect it from heavy usage. Maybe it' the same principle of ventilators that are never fixed that well on the ceiling. You can notice that it's shaking and that makes it look like it's properly placed, but that happens to protect the device from tearing the ceiling apart over the years.
Weird that the two buttons he is talking about correspond to 1) the soft menu buttons on the screen and he could thus just tap the screen as a workaround or 2) when you use the keyboard, the buttons are replaced with the hardware buttons at the top of the keyboard.
I found it weird for a while moving from a Hermes to a Kaiser - different buttons, screen sliding open the other way but YOU GET USED TO THE CHANGES!
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Weird that the two buttons he is talking about correspond to 1) the soft menu buttons on the screen and he could thus just tap the screen as a workaround or 2) when you use the keyboard, the buttons are replaced with the hardware buttons at the top of the keyboard.
I found it weird for a while moving from a Hermes to a Kaiser - different buttons, screen sliding open the other way but YOU GET USED TO THE CHANGES!
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I was talking about the "soft menu" buttons, but not only, also about the buttons wich are below it. All buttons around the pad in fact.
You say I can use the on screen buttons, yes ,for sure !
But then you can also say that the soft menu buttons are useless ...
I don't think they are useless, they are very usefull, they allow us to use the device with only one hand, and also I hate pressing the screen with my fingers.
If HTC would not put these soft menu buttons around the pad, I would just not buy the Kaiser. But if they put it there, they should make them easy to access (and it was very easy to do !).
I just want to say that I have quite large hands/fingers and I have no problems with those buttons at all. If I go to push one, I dont wind up pushing the ones next to it. If you have such trouble you must really have some sausage fingers. If that's the case, I dont quite see how you can blame HTC for it.
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I just want to say that I have quite large hands/fingers and I have no problems with those buttons at all. If I go to push one, I dont wind up pushing the ones next to it. If you have such trouble you must really have some sausage fingers. If that's the case, I dont quite see how you can blame HTC for it.
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lol. i feel the same way. i have big hands and fingers, and i have no troubles with the keyboard. Must be some brought wurst fingers.
No problem for me either. Other than the Dpad should be a bit tighter, I like it better than the rest of the HTC devices.
The touch screen of my htc touch diamond is not working properly. It does not react to my touch. For me to get it to work I have to rub my fingers over it then it will be work again as normal. This only lasts for a few minutes after a while it becomes non responsive again. It is like it has to be warmed up to get it to work. This a problem when it comes to sending text messages. (the problem remains when I remove the protective screen).
Anyone has a answer to this?
remember the last program you installed and remove it , maybe it cause this problem
or try hardreset
Tried both methods still not working. I have ran out of ideas. Anyone else expierenced this problem?
Im having the same problem with my Raphael
To really know whether it is a hardware problem or software based problem, I recommend a hard reset and see whether the problem persists...
this is likely to be water damage on the screen. send it off for warranty see if they fix it. they fixed it for mine.
The thing is iv noticed the touch screen isn't thermal reactive like most touch screens. In other words the temprature of your finger is sensed on thermal screens, the HTC you can use anything solid that makes contact. Usefull if you have long nails.
So I'm guessing its probably hardware if it works after a while of 'rubbing' it, But like otacon said I would do a hard reset before jumping to that conclusion.
Same problem
Hi there....i saw that this is an old thread but did you manage to get it to work?
Cause i have a HTC Diamond that i changed both the displays on(LCD and the "point screen") and everything works fine on mine now,even tried to recieve phonecalls and it works excellent so as i said EVERYTHING works like a charm but the touch function.....it doesn´t react in any way while trying to use the touch function and i have tried soft reset,hard reset,new rom,checked all the internal connections around 4-5times and everything is ok but the damn touch function won´t work whatever i do with it.
I haven´t "glued" the 2 screens together,but they are sitting close to eachother so it should work anyways right?
Now from what i have seen on internet is that there are different versions of touch screens available on the market and i ordered the LCD from one company and the touch screen from another.
Could it be so that they aren´t compatible together or am i doing something wrong?
I´m still stuck at "Tap the screen to set up your Windows Mobile-based device" and can´t get any further after trying another rom.
Please help me out if it´s possible.
I have exactly the same issue you're experiencing, I've actual flashed the original rom, thinking that might put every settings in place to make it work, but no joy.
I don't be leave the concept of the weather condition equate to the performance of the device, as read in some of the forums. reason being I've had mine in very hot climate Country for over year whiles working on a project in Africa. In fact that was when I realised the the screen has become unresponsive.
I think this is a hardware issue.
It´s working perfect again
So since my last reply i ordered a new touch digitizer and lcd display and soldered them together carefully(first time i bought a lcd and digitizer from two different companies so they weren´t compatible with eachother and made the touch defective and second time i bought both digitizer and LCD screen from the same company and then it worked) and it has been working perfect since i last wrote my comment so i recomend you check the contacts/connections first on the phone because i had some minor issues with them when i assambled the phone again so i had to #wiggle# the contacts so i made sure they were connected.
We had a company here that sold lcd displays and digitizers out for a total of 30dollars with shipping so i had nothing to loose on it so that´s why i ordered a new set again and that made everything work as a charm since i replaced it.
Now i have searched online about the displays and the digitizers and i have found out that there are atlast three different versions of them so if you order a digitizer and a LCD make sure you atleast order both from the same company so it doesn´t happen the same to you what happened to me the first time.
Cheers and hope i helped you somewhat or else just ask on and i should try to answer.
I won't complain about the cracks, or the recessed screen, or even the slow speed (especially video playback, otherwise its good enough). I mean every device has it's own pros and cons. I like my X1, but what I am most dissapoinded in it, is the keyboard. I bought this device for his qwerty keyboard, and it is not very convenient. Ok than I can get used to it, but it started to have keys which need to be pressed really hard to get the letter from it. And that is really annoying and make my KB much slower for writing.
So how do you find your X1 KB? Do you have the already standard KB problem - some buttons needs to be pressed hard, other just get the double letter?
Do you find the TP1 and TP2 keyboards more convenient? Anyone testing omnia pro (the sliding version)?
In the end I'll either clean the KB by myself, or take it to SE for warrany (once the buttons stop working at all). But you know I had a custom SPL, so I need to revert this too. And I've spent more than $800 for this device.
No issue for me with my X1: no cracks: no double letters, no need to press hard on keyboard
The only issue: when I press on one key of the keyboard, it take a little time for the letter to appears on the screen... (sometime, the last letter of a word become the first letter of the next word...)
One of the things that steered me toward the X1 was the hardware keyboard, but I hardly ever use at all. It's like brand new.
I'm glad I don't rely on it judging by some of the posts on here with all the drama it can cause.
Installing the xt9 software and using sktool to make it the default after a reboot etc more or less made my hardware keyboard redundant. Occasionally I'll use it, but not often.
It is perfect for me. Works flawlessly, never had any issues with it, very convenient and comfortable.
I had the same problem.
some keys needed to be pressed real hard, while others place 2 letters.
So i went back to the store.
First time they cleaned the inside.
still...
Second they replaced the KB and the cabel that connects it to the processor.
still..
third time they send it to Sony ericsson, where multiple parts we're replaced.
still..
at that moment i got took a insurance at the store, this was possible because it was testes bij SE.
and with this insurance, i got a new one from the store^^
so my problem is solved.. for now..
Same here...no probs at all...very smooth.
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I had the same problem.
some keys needed to be pressed real hard, while others place 2 letters.
So i went back to the store.
First time they cleaned the inside.
still...
Second they replaced the KB and the cabel that connects it to the processor.
still..
third time they send it to Sony ericsson, where multiple parts we're replaced.
still..
at that moment i got took a insurance at the store, this was possible because it was testes bij SE.
and with this insurance, i got a new one from the store^^
so my problem is solved.. for now..
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Man, I really hope my X1 won't be so tough to fix. It was working flawlessly for the first 6-7 months, but then I start having th KB issues.
no problem for me
but guess if one use it around dust and high humidity dust could
turn into dirt layers which could cause what you seem to exp
sometimes the fn button/the blue one doesnt work but the keyboard on the x2 actually looks proper but yea the keyboard isnt great is it
biggest dissapointment would be... the recessed screen.
besides that, it's a considerable phone for all day use.
i have had the keyboard problem on 2 of the 3 x1s i have had. hoping when mine comes back from repair it is sorted. although the keyboard is very annoying and slows writing down alot, its the cracks that really rune the x1 as a phone (in the sense that even if u get it fix its very likely to crack again. every times this happens u have to send the handset back to repair which take 2+ weeks).
odd I only had 1
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odd I only had 1
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2 replacements from because of cracking
9+ months with the same device . No problemos (hardware lol).
I also had the kb problems... at first it is only the space bar... since the space bar is long.. i cannot trigger the space bar efficiently using my right hand.. sometimes it double taps and sometimes it doesn't tap... so i switch to pressing the spacebar with left hand...
then the "." key.. most often times it double presses... then i lost my phone...
(guess what) i still bought an x1... as of 1 week. the kb still doesn't show up..
My friend Ada got this phone and she told me that sometimes when she wanted to use KB, the screen just stopped and she had to wait for some time until the screen made the reaction...
when i first got my phone and started to use it, i was really dissappointed with just about everything... but in the end, it turned out to be a pretty good phone.
i was looking to get the tp2 for its bigger screen but i dont think i would like it without the scroll pad. plus i didnt want to buy another phone with just a bigger screen and same specs.
in the end... no need to upgrade when the x1a that i have is doing everything that i need it to do.
i have the exact same problem...
my only 3 keys that seem to get...stuck all the time are the I O P
sometimes even the backspace, it does get annoying, and plus if i get it to go at one hit..it would double the letters...
i guess its time to change to the x2
where do you get it repaired btw? its just that i bought my phone in indonesia unlocked, it has its warranty and everything, but i'm in canada now...do you think a carrier would want to take in that warranty?
I had the kb problems after 6 months of use as well, double/triple letters and keys were needed to be pressed harder to register. Had no warranty to get it fixed so I worked around it by installing the XT9 software.
Learned to type with the tips of my thumbs rather than at the base so the keys registered and the double keys issue was taken away because of the predictive txt. So I'm happy with my X1 despite it's kb problems hehe
hello i'm using the official latest rom from the HTC site...i have a problem with the hardware keyboard...what happens is that when i'm typing, the characters take too much time to appear on the screen and many(almost always) times characters are missing and i have to retype them...when i bought the phone it had hyperdragon III and the problem was the same but without the part "characters missing"i have tried 5-6 other roms and the problem is still not solved...does anyone know how to fix this?i am 99% sure that there is no hardware problem from the keyboard cause that would mean that some certain letters in the keyboard are broken...but in my case it happens on random letters every time...thanks in advance!
Moved as not ROM Development.
Try the speed increase .cab in this .zip
The hardware keyboards are notorious for going wrong on Kaiser.
thanks for the advice...i installed both cabs and then did a soft reset...the difference is not big and the lag keeps going but the characters missing issue got a lot better...stil not perfect...thanks so much...
That's cool glad it helped, good job you got a Tilt or your keyboard would be messed up as the other .cab is layout for keyboard Like i said the Kaiser is notorious for the keyboard gettin bad, mine i have about 5 keys i have to stomp on with thumb
really starting to feel like i have to get rid of this phone...it has so many good things but sometimes i forget i have a phone and feels like i have a really old crappy pc which freezes all the time...maybe it's the time to buy an HD2
HD2 would be nice "mind you think i'd get a Rhodium for keyboard", i use Raphael as no contract still better than Kaiser especially now have me own custom ROM rockin away
yeah i know...the keyboard is why i bought the kaiser from the first place...i had a samsung f490 and i couldn't stand it...everything was touch...i had to press a combination of touch buttons to answer a call!imagine me driving my car and trying to answer my girlfriend on the phone...so i traded it for a laptop and bought a kaiser...the reason i am going for an HD2 is because it's the fastest...i wish they could make a keyboard version...that would be really nice!
also have the lagging button syndrome! sometimes letters missing, sometimes duplicates and other times it hangs and makes 3messages full of a single character, so frustrating! now my 'g' button is broken and 'n' and 's' also dont work. but at least i have the screen keyboard to use! otherwise i love this phone! better than any other brand!
the problem is that this isn't a hardware problem...it's software for sure...sometimes the phone freezes...i'm pressing the same button like a million times and nothing happens...at that time the touch controller doesn't work either...and after some time like 5-6 seconds the phone is accepting input again like normal but with lag and with characters missing...i recall that the cabs provided solved the problem...maybe it was a coincidence or something...if it was a hardware problem i would buy a new keyboard and voila all fixed but that's not the problem...many times it misses my touch commands and even more times i have to press the power button to put the phone to sleep state and then press it again to wake it up in order to let me use touch commands again...really nice phone but not for me...i will go buy a practical phone with 60-70 euro which never freezes and doesn't even have wifi or bluetooth but at least i can type a freaking message without have to try 5 minutes to write 160 characters...i use messages a lot...like 2000-3000 messages every month and the full keyboard was the reason why i bought this thing...now it will be the reason to sell it...
Hi,
I'll get straight to the problem, I used to be a heavy texter, and now my keyboard buttons don't always register immediately, so for example I'm typing 'and', what would usually happen is I'd get the partial word - _nd, a_d, an_ and I'd have to go back and press the button multiple times before it actually works.
This is becoming an irritation, since I hardly text nowadays. Planning to get the desire or wildfire, but will need to fix before I sell it :-\ Any advice as to what I should do to get the keyboard fixed? Membrane change?
try using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436795
newyorkmafia - I don't think the hardware issue will be fixed by a software tweak, though thanks for helping, obviously.
MA2403, you didn't mention which country you live in. Were you thinking of disassembling the TyTn II yourself (to clean membranes with some IPA/replace parts etc.), or are you looking for recommended repairers near to you?
I have the same problem (s, g, h and v mostly) on mine, but having had a screen replacement procedure (by a company) totally bodged (and a Touch Pro 2 about to arrive), I'm loathe to splash out any more on this device.