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Wizard Rom (extended mainly) information please (or app)

Hello. I have been experiencing massive shortages of ram on my wizard. I started reading about all the different roms, and have friends that have tried the molski 30mb free rom. I also read about some others that pack much used stuff in the extended rom. My idea was to see if I would be able to make my own extended rom packed with some of my most used apps. To figure this out, I need to know a few things..... First, how large is the extended rom? Second, When you install programs from the extended rom, they install to the rom, right? (or extended rom? unsure here). If so, how much space is left in the rom for extended rom installs?
Is there an app that will load on my wizard and tell me rom info?
Basically I want to see if I can install stuff like wisbar, maybe even resco explorer into the extended rom to save on program space while saving ram using molski's 30mb free rom. This would give me more install space (very limited on that) and more ram (checking under couch cushions for any extra lately). Any usefull information would be greatly appreciated. TIA

*bump* Even help with search terms would help?! Ive tried just about anything I can think of and only find 100 page threads about cooked roms. Anything at all might help...

*bump* 87 ppl on this forum have read thism and someone must have seen something somewhere
I also have another question to add to the queue. How do you tell if your phone is CID unlocked? I know I sim unlocked it, but am not sure if the CID unlock worked or not. TIA for your help

Darkrift said:
Hello. I have been experiencing massive shortages of ram on my wizard. I started reading about all the different roms, and have friends that have tried the molski 30mb free rom. I also read about some others that pack much used stuff in the extended rom. My idea was to see if I would be able to make my own extended rom packed with some of my most used apps. To figure this out, I need to know a few things..... First, how large is the extended rom? Second, When you install programs from the extended rom, they install to the rom, right? (or extended rom? unsure here). If so, how much space is left in the rom for extended rom installs?
Is there an app that will load on my wizard and tell me rom info?
Basically I want to see if I can install stuff like wisbar, maybe even resco explorer into the extended rom to save on program space while saving ram using molski's 30mb free rom. This would give me more install space (very limited on that) and more ram (checking under couch cushions for any extra lately). Any usefull information would be greatly appreciated. TIA
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check my signature ,you will most what you need .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=968417

Read farias info, but i give u an intro: extrom is 10mb, installing something from extrom dont install in rom but in the device storage...
In any case the os free memory when he really need it automatically so i ask u a q, why do u think that u have memory outage problems?

I am low on memory (ram) and program storage memory. I installed molski's rom last night, but I am still really low on both. I have 6mb free program storage, and even after installing molski's 30mbfree rom, i have 16-20mb free ram. I have tried closing almost all of my programs, but this does not go up. I figured that if I installed a few of my most used programs in the extended rom, and they were installed to the rom (wasnt sure about this) that I would have some extra program storage memory. I am going to see if removing my today plugins helps at all, but I only have 3. Resco, and phone alarm (dont really need it now) and one that allows meto turn on bt/wifi with a single tap.

mmm...yea, i also have around 18mb and im using farias 3.2 rom (falls to around 6mb during startup, this is normal)...its normal for this kind of device...thats why i ask u why u need more memory...in any case if u try to run something that asks for more memory the chances r that the 200mhz processor r going to be another limit...example: 32mb gba roms, some car game mentioned around, (pocketquake?), etc...
and i have about 30mb free storage, but this is because i store allmost everithing in a 1gb minisd...

btw, i use batterystatus, agile and ilancher plugins...and vbar also running in background...

Darkrift said:
I installed molski's rom last night, .
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I tried also molski's ROM and after reboot tried get rid of extended ROM by pressing soft restart button after instalation completed(when it prompted that selfonciguration will take place after3 seconds).
After reboot I had abou 44 MB free memory in storage and about 30 MB in programs.
But this is ilusion after instalation few programs (2-3MB at all)checked memory again and it drops more then 13MB.
By reghacking registry it is possible to see extrom as "Extrom2" it is 10 MB with more than 9,8MB free space and it is not writable.
Unlocking extrom would be solution and I've tried several unlocking tools,but with zero succes so far

Thank you all for your replies. I guess I will just have to live with this as it is. I love this device and if it only had a faster cpu (like my axim x51) It would be perfect. I currently do not have many problems with it, but I would like to get it running the fastest that is possible.
Thx again.

did u tried omapclock?

Allocate more memory

Got the Tmobile wing, or HTC Herald. I'm trying to put preferably a 32bit EMU (e.g. PocketGBA) or at least a 16 bit EMU (Pocket SNES) on it. Used MemMaid to kill a bunch of programs but I'm still stuck without enough memory (RAM). Anyway anyone knows how to squeeze some more memory out of the Wing?
The best method IMHO is to allocate more to programs...since I have a 2GB Micro SD card I don't need storage, but can't seem to do it. And I don't know enough to find and change the memory allocation in the registry (if that's where it is)
Anyhelp?? I just want more memory, nothing fancy?? Suggestions? Looked through several forums and haven't found what I need.: p

Koijima said:
Got the Tmobile wing, or HTC Herald. I'm trying to put preferably a 32bit EMU (e.g. PocketGBA) or at least a 16 bit EMU (Pocket SNES) on it. Used MemMaid to kill a bunch of programs but I'm still stuck without enough memory (RAM). Anyway anyone knows how to squeeze some more memory out of the Wing?
The best method IMHO is to allocate more to programs...since I have a 2GB Micro SD card I don't need storage, but can't seem to do it. And I don't know enough to find and change the memory allocation in the registry (if that's where it is)
Anyhelp?? I just want more memory, nothing fancy?? Suggestions? Looked through several forums and haven't found what I need.: p
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The problem is the pagepool.
All cooked rom for wizard have 4 or 8MB pagepool because that´s enough. I guess on wing it is the normal 12MB - too much.
We have to cook smaler ones and we will get back the big RAM like 30MB.
Let´s wait for official update and start cooking without the possibility of bricking.
lol

Dang-it
I was hoping I didn't have to cook the rom, I've bricked things before and once burned....
Oh well I just want it to play GBA, (wanted to wait for PSP2 to come out to decide on getting a portable) I'll hang back and wait for a popular Aserg cooked OS or something. Something using the original windows mobile WWE edition.
Oh damn I've deleted stuff from my extrom, crap should have backed it up... I think it was only the tzone thing, still just in case. well I'll get around to it whenever..
Now to look up how to make sure I use 802.11g and not 802.11b
Thanks man.

papamopps;1304169 said:
The problem is the pagepool.
All cooked rom for wizard have 4 or 8MB pagepool because that´s enough. I guess on wing it is the normal 12MB - too much.
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I also have a wing and experiencing the same memory problems.. your saying that if i lower the "pagepool," a term I'm unfamiliar with, more program memory will be allocated after a soft reset; right now only 27% of the program memory is free after a soft reset. Is this pagepool thing a simple registry hack, or do u need to flash a custom rom to lower it? either way, can someone please explain to me how to lower the pagepool, or easier, a recommendation for a custom rom that allocates more program memory.. before I switched to the wing, my mda would always have atleast 50+% free program memory.. please help. thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313263
try your luck and post results in the thread pls
/edit: It worked for my device... 26.53 RAM Free now

Wing Memory Help?
I have a wing with 1.02 mb storage memory and 14.26 program memory with nothing running. I have installed all my cab.s on my 4 gig memory card. Am i doing something wrong? Why do I have so little memory? I have change the pagepoll to 4 mb's.
I have inastalled on my mem card:
sling player
audible logic and cardonware
ms live search
mud inc Kokonotsu
aserg policies
TCPMP the core pocket media player
Skunkworks Flashvideobundle
Spb weather
A_c Slide2unlock
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-plugin
I am sure I installed all the cab. files on my storage card.
Any insight or help woud be appreciated.

dstegner119 said:
I have a wing with 1.02 mb storage memory and 14.26 program memory with nothing running. I have installed all my cab.s on my 4 gig memory card. Am i doing something wrong? Why do I have so little memory? I have change the pagepoll to 4 mb's.
I have inastalled on my mem card:
sling player
audible logic and cardonware
ms live search
mud inc Kokonotsu
aserg policies
TCPMP the core pocket media player
Skunkworks Flashvideobundle
Spb weather
A_c Slide2unlock
Chi-Tai Dang BatteryStatus TD-plugin
I am sure I installed all the cab. files on my storage card.
Any insight or help woud be appreciated.
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Just a thought. Have you deleted your emails and cleared the temp files in your Internet Explorer?
In any case you should set it up so that these get saved on the storage card.

yes.. doing that on a regular bases does help but pagepool makes a big difference

ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
yes.. doing that on a regular bases does help but pagepool makes a big difference
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Did you read that he already has pagepool set at 4mb?

patspdaphone said:
Did you read that he already has pagepool set at 4mb?
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i thought it was a better idea to set it to 6mb instead of 4mb??

im not sure whats better but i have the 4mb and it works great plenty of memory on a fresh reboot...about 25-27mb

With all applications closed, using the 4mb pagepool setting, I get 21mb.
Apparently each device is slightly different? Wouldn't it be nice if HTC had supplied more memory in the first place...and if Windows wasn't always sucking mem. for no reason

adam79 said:
I also have a wing and experiencing the same memory problems.. your saying that if i lower the "pagepool," a term I'm unfamiliar with, more program memory will be allocated after a soft reset; right now only 27% of the program memory is free after a soft reset. Is this pagepool thing a simple registry hack, or do u need to flash a custom rom to lower it? either way, can someone please explain to me how to lower the pagepool, or easier, a recommendation for a custom rom that allocates more program memory.. before I switched to the wing, my mda would always have atleast 50+% free program memory.. please help. thanks.
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I just got my Wing a couple of weeks ago, installed a new ROM and did the page pool and am very upset with the lack of storage memory. With my MDA I had both vanilla ROM's and full ROM's installed with lots of memory left any where from 24MB to 30MG free storage ram. With the Wing I had installed only a few programs like Intellisync for work, PocketCM all emails and IE cache are on the card, with this I have just 13 mg of storage space. I do not have the newest updated Office...when I tried to intstall it the old was not deleted but this just installed over it and took away precious memory.
I do miss the days of a full stocked cooked ROM with lots of storage memory. Am considering getting rid of this phone and getting something else.

I'm running about 20lb on average. I did have about 23mb before, but had to hard reset (for other reasons) and reconfigure everything. I think I need to see what else I can put on my storage card. Only using about 81mb right now, but was running about 250mb before. Going to reinstall a few programs onto the card today and see how much more I can free up.

Wow i am an idiot. I did figure this out. Thought I set it up to storage card but... anyway thanks,

try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324594
much easier to do. I have 6mb pagepool set and when i boot up fresh i get just under 20mb of free ram with a total program memory of 49.89mb. I'd suggest the 6mb pagepool as many people have said the 4mb pagepool is too small and the device will suffer performance issues.

Is it possible to upgrade Diamond's RAM?

Just like what someone did to HTC D900, upgraded its RAM from 64MB to 128MB.
If Diamond gets 288MB RAM just like Touch Pro, it would be perfect because Touch Pro is too thick to me.
Any idea?
Thanks!

I think no, Diamond with its size is so small, I really doubt that there is place for another RAM module. But, I have Diamond, and I must say that these 55 MB RAM which you will get with TouchFlo 3D are enough.

Yeah even with the phone skin and TF3D on, and with all the RAM eating speed increase tweaks you get more than 50MB available.
Why do you need more? Even a huge huge program like IGO 8 doesn't need more than 30MB.
Even if you need more RAM, you can turn off the phone skin and TF3D to gain around +15MB RAM easily.

I only have 35mb free...
Im running SwiftBL v6.0 Lite with 16mb cache. Is it normal?

laser21 said:
I only have 35mb free...
Im running SwiftBL v6.0 Lite with 16mb cache. Is it normal?
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Something's wrong there. I'm also using SwiftBL 6 and I have 65MB free. You're either confusing used ram with free ram, or you have somthing huge running in the background.

I want more ram because when you run 2~3 apps in Diamond, it's free ram will drop to 10~20 MB, and then the phone is quite slow. If you watch the Touch Pro videos(just search Youtube), it runs much faster than Diamond, even it's now without very good roms.

Total RAM only 200MB?

I've noticed that when i install a 6.5 rom I seem to loose RAM. With the first X2 rom port it showed as 183MB, then I went to the Pure 6.5 Barebones from gtrab and on that i only get 200.5MB, right not it has 74.8MB in use, and 125.7 free.
Currently the 6.5BB rom has the X2 stuff installed, dialer, panel manager, panels, comm manager and task manager. I installed the X2 video drivers too, but the RAM was already at 200MB before that.
Where has my other 56MB gone? I'm starting to get out of memory errors that I've never had before!

the os itself use both storage and application ram
much like when you start up your pc you don't have 2gb (or how much mem you got)
free memory

Yeah, I know that, but if you check on your PC, you'll still ahve 2GB total, and say 1GB free.
My total is only 200MB when it should be 256MB, as that's the physical amount there. I'm sure it always reported as 256MB before...hmmm

aahhh ok the rest is not showed because it's not available because it's dedicated to the "video card"
not sure if you seen 256 before
personally I always had 200.48MB right now 87.85 free

Yeah I also get 200.48MB but I always wondered how come some ROMs have 200.48MB and other ROMs show less such as 183/188MB (I think Unoff showed 188MB)...I don't think it has anything to do with the PagePool because even after changing pagepool, Total RAM remains the same

Free Program memory for Cooked Roms

My stock AT&T shows about 54% used and 86mb free with no apps or Touch Flo running after soft reset
After launchin Touch Flo - 62% used and 70mb free
scrolling through the touch flo menu once and not launching anything - 66% 64mb
opening butt load of apps including Touch Flo - 90% 18mb
closing all apps - 60% 75mb
Here is the question. How does everyone compare their stock ROM to the cooked ones? If I open more than 3 apps, I start to get slow downs. I did remove as much bloat as I could and used memmaid to clean out old stuff. Which ROMS have the best memory usage?
Thanks for the feedback.

I only see one ROM with published memory stats. I'm really trying to learn here. Are there more ROMs with published results? Thanks.
I was able to get my Raphael with new ROMS and the performance increased. The memory usage went from 110mb used to 80mb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938

Well its up to the cooks to do so. The best way to find it is to flash!

ai6908 said:
Well its up to the cooks to do so. The best way to find it is to flash!
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Mine will have the most free memory for obvious reasons. However, mine is Sprint only.

william8004 said:
My stock AT&T shows about 54% used and 86mb free with no apps or Touch Flo running after soft reset
After launchin Touch Flo - 62% used and 70mb free
scrolling through the touch flo menu once and not launching anything - 66% 64mb
opening butt load of apps including Touch Flo - 90% 18mb
closing all apps - 60% 75mb
Here is the question. How does everyone compare their stock ROM to the cooked ones? If I open more than 3 apps, I start to get slow downs. I did remove as much bloat as I could and used memmaid to clean out old stuff. Which ROMS have the best memory usage?
Thanks for the feedback.
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Well my New rom Cell PRO V7.5 beats that by far and it includes alot of good stuff from leo.

I use Energy ROM photon 10/21/09-21864 version.
47% RAM used with touchFLO after soft reset
51% with scrolling
using Opera browser, watch movies, play music. after 1 day about 70-75%.
even when opening lots of apps, including Google map and opera, still <80%
47% again after reset. I can go more than 1 week without the need to reset.
Seems like this Energy ROM uses much less RAM than your ATT stock ROM.

I have my first report:
Stock ROM on boot = 70mb free
to this ROM = 100mb free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
By the way, if you run Copilot Live 8 it uses 25mb running.
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