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TomTom and other maps...

I have a feeling that this will become quite a discussed post. The *taster* version of TT that comes with the Kaiser allows you to download only one map - and the selection is limited.
I have a TomTom Go in my car and was wondering if I can use the map data from there? I have all of Western Europe. Obviously I'll need a memory card capable of holding it but the real question is - can you use TT Go maps on TT Mobile?
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I suspect that the maps are attached to a particular device.

Depends on the map version you have.
I guess the Kaiser has a version 6 Tomtom. Therefore you need at least map designed for that version.
In general the maps for the Go and the WM versions of TomTom are identical. Theoretically it should work.
BUT:
Apart from that you also need a device specific activation code belonging to the map/device combination. Your maps are obviously allready activated for your Go, so you cannot activate them on a second device.
Maybe the TomTom helpdesk (forum on their site) can help you out.

Taster version of TomTom with Kaiser......is it possible to uninstall it so that I can install my own tomtom which I have got on my current sd card in trinity, as it is activated and with all maps? I mean, is this tatser verison included in ROM or is it removable from settings?
Thanks

dr_s said:
Taster version of TomTom with Kaiser......is it possible to uninstall it so that I can install my own tomtom which I have got on my current sd card in trinity, as it is activated and with all maps? I mean, is this tatser verison included in ROM or is it removable from settings?
Thanks
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I believe i noticed in the "retail TyTN II unboxing" video, that TomTom resides on a CD with applications in the box.... So that would mean you have to install it yourself, and in that case you can go with your own full copy of TomTom...
What i would like to know is, if version 6.030 from my Trinity will run smoothly on the Kaiser...???

dr_s said:
Taster version of TomTom with Kaiser......is it possible to uninstall it so that I can install my own tomtom which I have got on my current sd card in trinity, as it is activated and with all maps? I mean, is this tatser verison included in ROM or is it removable from settings?
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tomtotm isnt on the rom. so there will be no need to uninstall anything. just put your version on and use it. its supplied on the software disk. I'll be putting my own version of tomtom onmine when i get my micro sd card hopefully tomorrow

but the version on the CD Rom is the latest (6.0.32)

the 6.0.32 version of TTN6 is specific for WM devices with built-in GPS, like the Kaiser.
So, best option is to use the app from the kaiser package and your own maps.

I think you can just copy the map folder from the TomTom Go to an microSD card and see if it is working.
I bet it is.

rakh1 said:
II have a TomTom Go in my car and was wondering if I can use the map data from there? I have all of Western Europe. Obviously I'll need a memory card capable of holding it but the real question is - can you use TT Go maps on TT Mobile?
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Legally? No. TomTom licenses you maps per device, so what you have is licensed to your GO.
Practically? Yes. You'll need one of the many keygens out there....

Can you nav guys help. I've never used GPS with my TyTN. I'm considering a TyTN II and have some questions.
Can you use the built in GPR without an external antennae with Google Maps with the TyTN II? Or do you need the TomTom or other software?
I like using Google maps.

rambo6 said:
Can you nav guys help. I've never used GPS with my TyTN. I'm considering a TyTN II and have some questions.
Can you use the built in GPR without an external antennae with Google Maps with the TyTN II? Or do you need the TomTom or other software?
I like using Google maps.
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You don't need an antenna or extra software like tomtom. Sometimes it's a bit fiddly setting up the ports to use to get say Google Maps or other software to see the inbuilt GPS - but you get there in the end!
Mike

Mike:
Thanks again for your reply. I think I may pick up the TyTN II here pretty quickly. I just wanted to hear that the built in GPS actually does something.

mikechannon said:
You don't need an antenna or extra software like tomtom. Sometimes it's a bit fiddly setting up the ports to use to get say Google Maps or other software to see the inbuilt GPS - but you get there in the end!
Mike
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What port are you using in Googlemaps? I've left it at auto, which doesn't work :S
Thanks!

People said that Googlemaps is not so friendly with long waiting to get satelite fix. So, Googlemaps tend to disconnect and wont tell you anything.
The workaround (not nice btw), is to start TomTom to get satelite fix, then quit.
After that Googlemaps will be able to connect to the GPS and works fine.
But, sorry for asking, what are the good things of Googlemaps compare to, let say TomTom or Route66, etc. Of course, it is FREE, but other than that?
Is Googlemaps available for all continent (Europe?) ?

bear in mind that google maps is an API, not just a web site.
It is possible to write location sharing apps etc for google maps, a mobile interface would be very cool.

Guys where on earth is the tomtom cab file for version 6? I only got 2 cd's, 1 applications which only has 3 apps (but not tomtom) and the starter cd which I did look all over? Is there more than 2 cd's?
Please help, I just got the kaiser today and want to install tomtom.
Thanks.

JasjarMan said:
Guys where on earth is the tomtom cab file for version 6? I only got 2 cd's, 1 applications which only has 3 apps (but not tomtom) and the starter cd which I did look all over? Is there more than 2 cd's?
Please help, I just got the kaiser today and want to install tomtom.
Thanks.
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Tomtom is in the CD with Spritebackup + 2 other apps which I don't remember.

Yeah I don't see it either that cd has three files sprite backup for pc end, for pocket pc (instals direct to kaiser) and gprs monitor

y2whisper said:
Yeah I don't see it either that cd has three files sprite backup for pc end, for pocket pc (instals direct to kaiser) and gprs monitor
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I don't have Tomtom6 on any CDs either , I got the units from SuperiorGadgets, they are HTC Tytn II. And I tried Mapopolis, map4pda, igo 2007, Destinator 6, none can see GPS.
What is the hardware port? I checked the GPS CP app, it shows COM4: as software, none for hardware. I tried couple of settings there, none worked so far.

what GPS software do you use?

Is it just me, or does "google maps" and WLS maps blow tomtom and iguidance out of the water.. imo, google maps has the best feel of all four apps and the satallite view is good.. Iguidance is even better with the street names overlaid onto the satallite view...
Tomtom is the worst of the four, with a clunky interface and iguidance's interface is not as quick as google or WLS.
am i worng?

my problem with google is that it doesnt follow you, and doesnt talk. havent tried m$s stuff

kireol said:
my problem with google is that it doesnt follow you, and doesnt talk. havent tried m$s stuff
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It follows me....

do you mean "follow you" as in the map scrolling automatically as you travel? if so, it does do that...

you might have a different version than me or a lot of other people have then. Ours doesnt follow us. it shows a blue blinking dot where you are at that dot moves, but the map doesnt, so soon your location is off the map. Also, if you are in an area with no cell, your maps wont work. IG/TT/etc will continue to work with no problems.

I have google maps, microsoft live search, and Tomtom 6 installed on my 8925 and although I love the features of live and google, I think tomtom is the preferred option to navigate to a specific location, because it navigates with voice and on screen info for the next turn. Google and Live will show you where you are and give you a route to follow, but without voice prompts both are a little dangerous to use while driving.

Here's a quick breakdown for you.
Google - has sat pics. is free. is from google! POIs are searchable via googles site. Problems. No voice. No T2S. Limited to 2d view
MS - same
TT - No T2S. Less accurate maps. More accurate pathing. Smoother FPS. Clunky or best interface depending on who you talk to. Sat maps and T2S rumored to be coming in the next billion years. has 2d and 3d.
IG - Has voice. has T2S. Has what in the U.S. is considered the most accurate mapping. Has commonly used features set to minimum buttons. Has the most 2d and 3d views. decent interface. slightly outdated graphics. Known comm problem with kaiser.

Which navigation software does travel with you when you want directions? I have google maps and it does not travel with you during directions.

I'm using Telenav and it seems to work well. It has not been fully integrated with PPC Outlook yet. Can't navigate to ppc contacts saved address. You must renter your contacts address in Telenav to navigate. You can however import your desktop Outlook contacts to an online service on their website. My favorite feature of Telenav is the ability to call a toll free number, speak your destination and after hanging up your destination is imported into Telenav and it automatically begins to speak you directions and check traffic.
I think Telenav is good but $10 a month or $100 a year is ridiculous. I am using the 30 day trial until my Garmin XT micro sd card comes.

I using iGO Plus

i use i guidance as well, it's very accurate and easy to use...what is the known comm problem with the kaiser, i have an ATT Tilt and i haven't ran into any issues...i hate that google or live has to connected to the internet all the time...
and i haven't tried tomtom but the fact that it doesn't come with US maps (at least the free version posted around these forums) and it doesn't do T2S made not even bother trying it...

strikeIII said:
i use i guidance as well, it's very accurate and easy to use...what is the known comm problem with the kaiser, i have an ATT Tilt and i haven't ran into any issues...i hate that google or live has to connected to the internet all the time...
and i haven't tried tomtom but the fact that it doesn't come with US maps (at least the free version posted around these forums) and it doesn't do T2S made not even bother trying it...
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I have the tilt as well. Most people with the tilt or tytnii are having IG wait 1-5 minutes before it loads up if you dont shut down comm mgr first. IG says that they probably wont fix this.

ziploker said:
do you mean "follow you" as in the map scrolling automatically as you travel? if so, it does do that...
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I bet it does
It scrolls automatically as I move.

TomTom for the win!

mapking 3D 2007 for me.
kms

How to start?
Hi guys,
I am a newbie and havent been able to get the GPS function to work yet.
I got the handset from Orange, flashed it with the HTC ROM found on this forum, downloaded googlemap and ran the QuickGPS. Googlemap hasnt been able to detect where I am yet.
Any advice would be great.

I use iGO myway. It's by far the best i've used. and I've used them all. LONG LIVE PPCW

Wayfinder
I'm using Wayfinder 6 on my TyTN II. I use Wayfinder since 4 years now. Easy to use, fast enough and powerful!

Try this.....
phuocdh said:
Hi guys,
I am a newbie and havent been able to get the GPS function to work yet.
I got the handset from Orange, flashed it with the HTC ROM found on this forum, downloaded googlemap and ran the QuickGPS. Googlemap hasnt been able to detect where I am yet.
Any advice would be great.
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I would suggest hard resetting you Tytn. You might have fooled with the external gps settings and I think it's been noted here that if you even look at the settings the internal gps gets hosed. I was having the same problem until I did a hard reset. I'm all good now.

Question for Tom Tom 7 users

I've installed TT7 on my Tilt and the install went fine. I've even downloaded the one free city (Miami) map. However, when I start up the software all I ever get is the waiting for a valid gps signal. I've run the quickgps to get the latest updates. Are there any other settings that I need to look at? I've read something about gpstest and gpsrouter but really don't know much about those. Am I missing something or have I done something wrong?

Update: Well I drove around for about an hour after work and it finally kicked in and started working. But, looks like I have a Map issue. I live about a mile from the ocean and Tom Tom is working cuz i see my position and the ocean is nearby. But, the area where I am is just one big green mass. I didn't see my address/street when I went to set that up either.

1) Running GPStest and minimizing it makes it get a fix sooner.
2) You are not on the map you have. Tomtom doesn't have a very large map area compared to where you want to be, apparently.

Even after downloading the latest maps for your city, some places are still not available. With TT7, I believe you can edit or download map edits and such from other users. I'm not sure whether this is only with POI's or with 'blank areas' as well.
Btw, I don't think that it would show your address when you're are home. Even after you've entered the address, it would probably show that you're somewhere very near.

had the same thing happen to me. I selected to download the free Houston, Tx map, unfortunatly I live outside of downtown, and I am in a green blob as well. If you buy a full map of your state, or find if your in a subcity (smaller city just outside) then you need to try to find the right map.

Anyone know where I can get a cab file of GPSTest?

use a search engine like google!
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=GPSTest&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=24687&associateid=9
another test tool: VisualGPSce

its best to run the test when u are outside (duhh lol found out the hard way lol, lacked common sense) i first installed the Wilmington DE map and then from my acutally GPS tomtom i copied the US and Canada Map over to my phone and ran another application to make it compatible to TT7 and now the GPS works better

Thanks for the files. Any suggestions on where to find some good maps? I drove into work this morning and the Tom Tom failed to get a connection. Has anyone else experienced and or solved this lengthy connection time issues?

Maybe I should start a new thread for this but as the title of this thread is non-specific I thought I'd post here rather than creating a new one. I installed TT7 on my kaiser yesterday after running TT6 for several months. I read that TT7 was compatible with both TT6 and TT7 maps, however when I loaded up TT7 and tried to access my existing map of Western Europe it did not appear in the list of available maps. Is there a solution for this problem or does anyone know where I can get a "trial" version of Western Europe map for TT7?

benl2k said:
Maybe I should start a new thread for this but as the title of this thread is non-specific I thought I'd post here rather than creating a new one. I installed TT7 on my kaiser yesterday after running TT6 for several months. I read that TT7 was compatible with both TT6 and TT7 maps, however when I loaded up TT7 and tried to access my existing map of Western Europe it did not appear in the list of available maps. Is there a solution for this problem or does anyone know where I can get a "trial" version of Western Europe map for TT7?
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TT6 maps are NOT compatible with TT7. Also, there is no trail for WE - you have to buy it (£49.95) from TomTom and follow the instructions in respect of hacking TTH2.3 with the tweaked jar file, downloading the map you bought to your pc, manually transferring it (and the activation file) to your SD card and voila.
I did this very thing last night and it runs a treat!

Tomtom home 2.5 makes Diamond legit.

Downloading TomTom Home 2.5 and connecting Orange (and maybe all variety) Diamond causes TOMTOM to offer a free trial of TOMTOM 7.9 with trial map and access to purchase others advancing the cause of those whose Diamonds did not have TOMTOM in ROM. Win for Diamond users. Win for TOMTOM map sales.

Sounds like very good news and TT actually applying some common sense for a change.
Does Home 2.5 work with Navigator? Previous versions did not and us PDA users were forced to use Version 1.5. It is for that reason that I did not instal it when it came out.
I have a legitimate version of TT6 up and running on my TD. Does this instal wipe any previous versions of TT off, or can both run together?
Can this version read version 6 maps - I would probably buy a Europe map but have a Southern Africa map I would want to keep in case I ever visit there again.

Maybe it's just because I live in Canada, but the only map I can download is the one free map. If I try to purchase a map via TomTom Home it shows none available. Kind of annoying since TomTom is pretty much useless if you can't buy maps. It does work for all the free voices and car images, etc though. Maybe I should have selected the UK as my country when I registered....

Tomtom Hone 2.5 encourages a connected diamond user to download working version of Tomtom 7 (v 7.90)for HTC devices which replaces extracted files from Diamonds with v7 in ROM. This allowed my access to previously purchased maps (v7.45maps) which wouldn't load with previous extracted versions of Tomtom 7. Home 2.5 has version for Navigator. Purchasing from Tomtom website for Navigator 7 leads to discounted 8.15 maps. Would assume these will work. My Orange diamond worked with maps of W Europe designated for O2.

The 6.75 maps will work with TomTom 7, I'm using them together just fine.

I'm using Tomtom V8 maps with Tomtom 7 no problem.

Worked for me. But does anyone know if this is a trial software, or the full version? I wouldn't want to spend $80 on a map of Australia, if the software runs out in a couple of weeks...

TomTom itself (the program) is free, its the maps you pay for, therefore it is a full version and will not run out.

Definitely full version. Can set to have cows mooing if speed limit exceeded. Tomtom will probably advise if v 8.15 maps operate if other site users cannot say. Cannot see why not as I am sure tomtom want map sales otherwise copilot will take htc users on. Home slightly slow to catch on to what you want . You may have to purchase maps from tomtom website and use Home to transfer to diamond rather than purchasing through Home itself.

I emailed TT "support" some questions about this and here is part of their reply
"Home is offering you this application in error. It is an update to the preinstalled version of Nav 7, so probably won't work."
So there you go - all of this is a figment of your imagination. It doesn't exist and if it did it wouldn't work anyway. And it is all your fault for wanting up to date software and maps from us.
Oh and by the way they also said that TTN6 is not compatible with my TD even if it works on it. I must get a copy of their dictionary to see what there definition of compatible is.
I am so glad that Tom Tom is back to its normal ways - I don't think I could have stood the shock of them becoming helpful.

Not complaining. Best example of unsolicited goods I've had in a long time. Is it tomtom's reluctance to preload in all markets or mobile companies wanting you to use their navigation system with costly data downloads?

Need a Good navigation Program other them tomtom7

Okay I did a search and I have read all the tomtom vs Igo8 topics I am looking for a REAL version not a warez and with Maps that are supported and updated I can't even get maps for my tomtom7 PDA anymore (Unless I am just looking in the wrong spot, I have tomtom home Installed it says no maps are available)
It would be nice if I could try it out for a few days to make sure I like it before plopping down 100+ bucks When I do a google search for I-go 8 I get pages and pages of torrents and cracks and warezs but no site to buy a real version
Any suggestions (with links please)
I have the full streets and trips 2009 you used to be able to export maps from that to a pocket edition for pda I can't even find that option anymore (maybe I am just having a bad day)
US MAPS or Oregon

http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_to_buy
first site that popped up when i put igo8 in google. i linked the where to buy section
i love igo8 and cant think of using any of the other gps programs

i have been using igo8 for a while now.
as much as i love tomtom, i prefer igo8 with TTS

I'd recommend Garmin Mobile XT. I ran TomTom 6, then TomTom 7 on my Kaiser. Wasn't that happy with it. I've looked over iGo a few times, I just didn't like that it wouldn't let me navigate to a contact. Too much trouble. Plus, Garmin lets me get important information like gas prices, etc., and I can do google searches through it.
That's just my opinion though..
-John

iGo;
or iGuigance

Who-m3 said:
I've looked over iGo a few times, I just didn't like that it wouldn't let me navigate to a contact. Too much trouble.
That's just my opinion though..
-John
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I navigate my contacts with no problems...only prerequisite for an address is no apartment/suite number in the contact's address. You can also go into 'Manage/Geocaching errors" inside igo8 to check addresses that cannot be found'.

I like some features of iGo8 (TTS and how much you can customize it mainly), but I find myself going back to Garmin Mobile XT all the time.
1) Garmin's routes seem to be better for me.
2) If you have data you can get fuel prices (might be a day or 2 old, but is handy while traveling).
3) You don't have to worry about your POIs being out of date since you can use Google Local Search (if you have data)...its gotten me out of a few binds before.
If you don't have data, then I would say iGo, but if you have data, then the Garmin Online features makes it over the top for me and well worth the money.

Why to pay ? Everything can be found for free
TomTom in not good choise - interface/maps etc. isn't very good. Don't have same feeling when use garmin or igo8. Garmin is best, maps are awesome. I know that garmin interface is not so briliant, but it do the job.
Also and igo8 is good, especially interface & tmc service, but maps are awful. Countries like macedonia and balcan are not covered well.

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Also and igo8 is good, especially interface & tmc service, but maps are awful. Countries like macedonia and balcan are not covered well.
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Serbian map (last update) is pretty good now, though still noticeably worse than Garmin. TomTom sucks big time.

i'm using tomtom7 with no problems. have tried igo8 but seems too slow for me. have used garmin before on my prophet and it was good.
overall, i prefer garmin, since it can use non garmin original maps - you can even make your own customised maps or just search for them on the net. i used the malsing maps when i went back to malaysia for a visit. very handy

try Copilot..love it ..had it for last 4 yrs since the first..Vario..copilot 7 is even better

inav iguidance 2009
ive used tomtom, garmin, and igo8 before. non of them beat iguidance. iguidance will announce the name of the street for you. example, "turn left on Wall St." instead of "turn left ahead".

garmin xt is great. especially if you are looking for accuracy

go to pocketnow.com and check out urban horizon, they have a 14 day free trial and it looks pretty cool you can either use it with data only and not store maps. or you can decide to download maps to device by state or region. im about to test it out in a bit when i get the newyork maps downloaded

i love my sprint telenav, especially the new VGA one for the TP... =) graphics are 10x better and it supports all my needs "gas prices, hotels, routes, point by point directions, ect"... i have the everything plan so its included for free...

I use Sygic McGuider in my Toshiba(WM Standart). Perfect,multiplatform solution from Slovak developers,very nice voices,nice graphics,perfect navigation... I don't know,how are the maps in US,but in EU is it very good.