Downloading TomTom Home 2.5 and connecting Orange (and maybe all variety) Diamond causes TOMTOM to offer a free trial of TOMTOM 7.9 with trial map and access to purchase others advancing the cause of those whose Diamonds did not have TOMTOM in ROM. Win for Diamond users. Win for TOMTOM map sales.
Sounds like very good news and TT actually applying some common sense for a change.
Does Home 2.5 work with Navigator? Previous versions did not and us PDA users were forced to use Version 1.5. It is for that reason that I did not instal it when it came out.
I have a legitimate version of TT6 up and running on my TD. Does this instal wipe any previous versions of TT off, or can both run together?
Can this version read version 6 maps - I would probably buy a Europe map but have a Southern Africa map I would want to keep in case I ever visit there again.
Maybe it's just because I live in Canada, but the only map I can download is the one free map. If I try to purchase a map via TomTom Home it shows none available. Kind of annoying since TomTom is pretty much useless if you can't buy maps. It does work for all the free voices and car images, etc though. Maybe I should have selected the UK as my country when I registered....
Tomtom Hone 2.5 encourages a connected diamond user to download working version of Tomtom 7 (v 7.90)for HTC devices which replaces extracted files from Diamonds with v7 in ROM. This allowed my access to previously purchased maps (v7.45maps) which wouldn't load with previous extracted versions of Tomtom 7. Home 2.5 has version for Navigator. Purchasing from Tomtom website for Navigator 7 leads to discounted 8.15 maps. Would assume these will work. My Orange diamond worked with maps of W Europe designated for O2.
The 6.75 maps will work with TomTom 7, I'm using them together just fine.
I'm using Tomtom V8 maps with Tomtom 7 no problem.
Worked for me. But does anyone know if this is a trial software, or the full version? I wouldn't want to spend $80 on a map of Australia, if the software runs out in a couple of weeks...
TomTom itself (the program) is free, its the maps you pay for, therefore it is a full version and will not run out.
Definitely full version. Can set to have cows mooing if speed limit exceeded. Tomtom will probably advise if v 8.15 maps operate if other site users cannot say. Cannot see why not as I am sure tomtom want map sales otherwise copilot will take htc users on. Home slightly slow to catch on to what you want . You may have to purchase maps from tomtom website and use Home to transfer to diamond rather than purchasing through Home itself.
I emailed TT "support" some questions about this and here is part of their reply
"Home is offering you this application in error. It is an update to the preinstalled version of Nav 7, so probably won't work."
So there you go - all of this is a figment of your imagination. It doesn't exist and if it did it wouldn't work anyway. And it is all your fault for wanting up to date software and maps from us.
Oh and by the way they also said that TTN6 is not compatible with my TD even if it works on it. I must get a copy of their dictionary to see what there definition of compatible is.
I am so glad that Tom Tom is back to its normal ways - I don't think I could have stood the shock of them becoming helpful.
Not complaining. Best example of unsolicited goods I've had in a long time. Is it tomtom's reluctance to preload in all markets or mobile companies wanting you to use their navigation system with costly data downloads?
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What is the best GPS NAV program and why?
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What is the best GPS NAV program and why?
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VisualGPSce - Free, gives great information such as satellite signal strength in a bar chart, satellite azimuth & elevation, panel with dial to show your current horizontal and vertical speed - heading - elevation. Great for many things including ensuring the GPS is working.
Earthcomber - Free software and Free maps, tracking location finding your way around is a breeze with this software. The vector graphics type maps make it very compact. I fit all of California with barely a dent in my 2G card. More services available for a fee as well. Directions require a connection, either cell or wifi.
Google Maps - Free software and Free maps, but requires connection either cell or wifi. Got to love those satellite views!
I use all three without any problems.
i'm using garmin mobile xt
that application have a good 3D
and many maps for that application
TomTom for teh win!
GPS
Great info! thanks
iGuidance 3.0. It's much better than the new 4.0 because 4.0 got rid of the map-generation software, so you have to copy a total of nearly 2GB to your device, instead of just what you need.
Great software with accurate maps and voice directions.
J
Destinator 6 / 7 Because there are great maps for my country
Tom Tom is always a classic, nice and easy to use, and does the job well.
Tom Tom da BEST
I guidance
I generally use I-GO 2006 Plus.
I feel like this topic was asked many times already and should be moved to Kaiser category forum, but I'll answer anyways. TOMTOM. Very simple and works great.
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I generally use I-GO 2006 Plus.
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Same here. Easy to use for me, especially while driving. I also use Live Search to find restaurants, movie times, stores, etc around where I am at the time.
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I generally use I-GO 2006 Plus.
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I thought I-Go was for Europe only. Do you have a link to any info. for a North America version?
I've been testing a lot of programmes on Kaiser:
- TomTom 6.032
- Navigon 6.2
- Garmin Mobile XT
- Copilot Live 6
- Automapa 4.1.2
TomTom:
Seems to be an automatic choice for many. It is good as always, but I noticed a few glitches comparing to its operation on Hermes with BT GPS SirfStar III receiver. Namely, it runs fine and suddenly it freezes. After some 3 kilometres it starts operating again. It also goes crazy on roundabouts. If you know the area it's ok, but imagine driving on a motorway in a foreign country. Wrong exit on estacade and you face 50km+ of extra road.
Navigon:
On Hermes with Schaps ROM it wasn't even usable, runs a few seconds and then freezes for a couple of minutes in menu! I didn't get to checking the navigation aspect. On Kaiser it seems to run more smoothly than TomTom, however it takes about 30-40 seconds to start. Some post codes in the UK are missing and when typing in the postcode you don't see the street name as in TT and when you decide to navigate there you cannot add a number.
For me it's the best looking navigation software on the market at the moment with nicely rendered POI Icons. If you drive by BP, Texaco etc. you can see the proper icon with symbol of the petrol station. The same with car dealers. At the moment for me personally is the default software. Routes are very similar to those from Garmin.
Garmin Mobile XT:
Not as smooth as Navigon, about the same as TomTom, however I noticed that it seems as if it tried to catch up the actual position for most of the time. Sometimes when you have to turn left and almost immediately right, you do it, but it still shows your position before. And that sucks. However it's got a brilliant feature no other software has. Namely, Mapsource. You install software with maps on your PC. Then let's say you drive from London to Rimini in Italy. You don't need all Europe countries (as usually in Western Europe packs from other companies). You can ask the program to find a route (just as on the ppc) and then choose just those pieces of map that run along the route. They are not square, the maps are divided in some puzzle like pieces.
Copilot Live 6:
Software provided with Kaisers from e.g. T-Mobile UK. You can choose 1 region like UK and Ireland or the Alps for free. It works fine. Free camera updates. It runs pretty ok, but it looks so uncool. Graphics is no match for TT or Navigon. However it can really satisfy the needs of an average user.
Automapa:
Polish software available in two packs. Only Poland and Western/Central Europe. It seems to be the fastest of them all. Graphics is good. In Poland you don't have just numbers, if it's a housing estate or an area with blocks of flats you can see separate blocks with numbers on them. The small problem is that you cannot find addresses using post codes in the UK.
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Tom Tom 6 - the best and easiest.
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I thought I-Go was for Europe only. Do you have a link to any info. for a North America version?
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They do have up to date Canada & US maps. I do not have the link handy, but if your do a google seach, you will find the info.
Was using Tomtom 6
Just switched to iGO and happy with it.
Waiting for iGO 2008 to be released.
Garmin XT. Mans brand GPS.
Tom Tom not for men.
I would be using Garmins XT if only they packaged it so I can use it on my SD card rather than theirs (yes, I am aware of the workarounds for this). Preference for Garmin is because I already own many Garmin devices and maps. I went to Newark last week and, rather than take one of my Garmins, I decided to give Nav4All a try. The interface is somewhat confusing until you get the hang of it but it did a respectable job of getting me around town. I will probably continue to use it when navigating at a flown-to destination and use my Garmins in my own vehicles.
I hate to be the new guy who asks the question that is repeated all over the forum, but I did a search and was unable to find a good answer to my question. I am mainly concerned with which has the best features that doesn't use any kind of data connection. Also which software can i buy and put on my 8gb micro sd? i know some come on 2gb cards and I would rather use my own card. Also is there any kind of chat for the forum? I feel terrible asking stupid questions on the forum.
There is no "the best" in the real world.
None of below GPS navigator application use data connection, unless you want some extra features like weather, traffic etc...
1. tomtom 6.
2. Garmin XT, however, it locked to pre-installed included microsd. If you want to copy it to your card then you have to know some ways to generate the new key.
3. Destinator 6. Version 7 comes with text to speech, but it is not available for America.
4. CoPilot Live 7 comes with microSD, but I don't if it is locked or not.
5. iGuidance V4. Text to speech is included. The only one comes with 14 days trial, but the trial version doesn't work on PPC.
I'm running 1. and 2.
thanks for the reply. what i meant by the data connect comment was all the bells and whistles suck as real time traffic and all, but out of tom tom and garmin which do you use or like the most?
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...but out of tom tom and garmin which do you use or like the most?
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Well, it's hard to answer b/c I don't have hands-on experience on the others.
In America and countries which tomtom maps are available, tomtom is my choice. I run Garmin because it makes maps that tomtom doesn't.
I think I may try iGuidance v4 if tomtom won't launch a newer version for PDA. However, iGuidance v4 still has its problem, for example, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368373.
I've been using Route 66 on my Kaiser -- with full US maps, it takes just a bit more than 4GB, so it'll fit on a 6 or 8GB microSDHC. Its maps are pretty good, but probably getting to be a bit dated; when I bought it 2+ years ago, its maps were brand new, but they haven't been updated AFAIK.
Yeah, i travel to US often i see my friend using Telenav on his tilt. It sucks.
If you drive fast, you dont see the map getting updated, even with HSDPA on. [Ofcourse there is a disclaimer, do not use while driving].
In my opinion, TomTom is good. I have for both Europe and US.
For US, it takes a bit more than 1GB. Its quite good and user friendly as well!!
If I had a nickel for every time there was a thread like this I would be drinking a nice cold coke.
Golf software?
While we're on the topic of NA GPS sw, I haven't founf many suggestions for golf sw that's got plenty of US courses. Any suggestions?
I'm using TomTom 6, but I recently became concerned with the age of the maps. In Philadelphia, it cannot find Veteran's Stadium (demolished in 2004), which would indicate that that maps are from at least 2005. But at the same time, it can't find Lincoln Financial Field [Philadelphia Eagles] or Citizen's Bank Park [Philadelphia Phillies], both of which opened in 2004.
I paid for $70 for the latest maps through TomTom Home, but who knows, maybe they just didn't copy to the device right...
I dont think its necessarily TomTom's fault for the maps, except that they charged you for them. I use google maps and there are many things that aren't on the maps that have been there for at least 2 years. It seems that maps in general from all sources need updated.... Its why i like nautical charts... updated weekly... too bad i cant find a good cheap/ free nautical navigation program.
Nghiem said:
There is no "the best" in the real world.
None of below GPS navigator application use data connection, unless you want some extra features like weather, traffic etc...
1. tomtom 6.
2. Garmin XT, however, it locked to pre-installed included microsd. If you want to copy it to your card then you have to know some ways to generate the new key.
3. Destinator 6. Version 7 comes with text to speech, but it is not available for America.
4. CoPilot Live 7 comes with microSD, but I don't if it is locked or not.
5. iGuidance V4. Text to speech is included. The only one comes with 14 days trial, but the trial version doesn't work on PPC.
I'm running 1. and 2.
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Just a note to everyone looking for GPS software for the Kaiser. I know many of you don't like the menacing machine of google, but google maps combined with the built in GPS works great. It also gives you the ability to look at a map, satalite overview as well as traffic.
Google Maps is really good not disputing that, but they need to update the maps and imagery... There are places that are no longer around in my town that are listed on the maps. And some of these places have been gone for years.
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Just a note to everyone looking for GPS software for the Kaiser. I know many of you don't like the menacing machine of google, but google maps combined with the built in GPS works great. It also gives you the ability to look at a map, satalite overview as well as traffic.
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I use googe maps combined with the built-in gps as well. It's extremely user friendly. It's almost dummy proof, lol, and has a nice gui too. Like in a previous post, it seems that many, if not all, gps programs have outdated maps ranging from 1 to 3 years, possibly more. I read somewhere that Google Maps' imagery (and Google Earth' s imagery) are 2 to 3 years ago due to National Security. I wouldnt be surprised if Tom Tom, Igo, Garmin, and other GPS programs used outdated maps as well.
If there were a system to supply updated maps for comm GPS programs like there is for nautical systems, that would be fricking sweet. Or a program that lets you use/ view nautical charts. I'm a mariner by trade so I love using GPS tools.
i have tried this http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/ it works great
I've installed TT7 on my Tilt and the install went fine. I've even downloaded the one free city (Miami) map. However, when I start up the software all I ever get is the waiting for a valid gps signal. I've run the quickgps to get the latest updates. Are there any other settings that I need to look at? I've read something about gpstest and gpsrouter but really don't know much about those. Am I missing something or have I done something wrong?
Update: Well I drove around for about an hour after work and it finally kicked in and started working. But, looks like I have a Map issue. I live about a mile from the ocean and Tom Tom is working cuz i see my position and the ocean is nearby. But, the area where I am is just one big green mass. I didn't see my address/street when I went to set that up either.
1) Running GPStest and minimizing it makes it get a fix sooner.
2) You are not on the map you have. Tomtom doesn't have a very large map area compared to where you want to be, apparently.
Even after downloading the latest maps for your city, some places are still not available. With TT7, I believe you can edit or download map edits and such from other users. I'm not sure whether this is only with POI's or with 'blank areas' as well.
Btw, I don't think that it would show your address when you're are home. Even after you've entered the address, it would probably show that you're somewhere very near.
had the same thing happen to me. I selected to download the free Houston, Tx map, unfortunatly I live outside of downtown, and I am in a green blob as well. If you buy a full map of your state, or find if your in a subcity (smaller city just outside) then you need to try to find the right map.
Anyone know where I can get a cab file of GPSTest?
use a search engine like google!
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=GPSTest&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=24687&associateid=9
another test tool: VisualGPSce
its best to run the test when u are outside (duhh lol found out the hard way lol, lacked common sense) i first installed the Wilmington DE map and then from my acutally GPS tomtom i copied the US and Canada Map over to my phone and ran another application to make it compatible to TT7 and now the GPS works better
Thanks for the files. Any suggestions on where to find some good maps? I drove into work this morning and the Tom Tom failed to get a connection. Has anyone else experienced and or solved this lengthy connection time issues?
Maybe I should start a new thread for this but as the title of this thread is non-specific I thought I'd post here rather than creating a new one. I installed TT7 on my kaiser yesterday after running TT6 for several months. I read that TT7 was compatible with both TT6 and TT7 maps, however when I loaded up TT7 and tried to access my existing map of Western Europe it did not appear in the list of available maps. Is there a solution for this problem or does anyone know where I can get a "trial" version of Western Europe map for TT7?
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Maybe I should start a new thread for this but as the title of this thread is non-specific I thought I'd post here rather than creating a new one. I installed TT7 on my kaiser yesterday after running TT6 for several months. I read that TT7 was compatible with both TT6 and TT7 maps, however when I loaded up TT7 and tried to access my existing map of Western Europe it did not appear in the list of available maps. Is there a solution for this problem or does anyone know where I can get a "trial" version of Western Europe map for TT7?
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TT6 maps are NOT compatible with TT7. Also, there is no trail for WE - you have to buy it (£49.95) from TomTom and follow the instructions in respect of hacking TTH2.3 with the tweaked jar file, downloading the map you bought to your pc, manually transferring it (and the activation file) to your SD card and voila.
I did this very thing last night and it runs a treat!
Does anyone know how I can update my TomTom software (latest maps, speed cameras) for my Kaiser?
goto the TomTom website and you will find all the info you will need....
I can't seem to find anything about updating a Kaiser on the TomTom website.
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I can't seem to find anything about updating a Kaiser on the TomTom website.
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TOMTOM is an application. To update, you buy the software and the maps, they send it to you on a disk or SD card and you load it into your phone.
The problem seems to be that there are no more recent maps (and software) since TomTom doesn't know if they want to continue or not to provide "PDA" updates, except for some OEM deals like HTC. Did you read this long thread ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679
TomTom only officially sell TomTom 6 for Windows Mobiles devices. With this you are limited to version 6.x maps. TomTom have updated the software to version 7 - latest is 7.910(9185) - however this isn't commercially available but is packaged by some carriers into their ROMs for two HTC devices; the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro. Only these two devices are officially supported by TomTom for Navigator 7, both these devices are VGA as well. If you go to TomTom's MapShop website and select 'NAVIGATOR 7' as your version you are then prompted with a list of different carriers devices - only HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro varients are listed.
What has happened since is Navigator 7 has been ripped from these devices (and TomTom's website) and backward engineered to work on other devices (VGA & QVGA) and then repackaged into installable .cab files (check the long thread in the previous reply for links to the .cabs, there are several floating around). This will get you the actual TomTom Navigator 7 application installed, however it is pretty useless without a map and the only 'official' way to get a map is via the TomTom Home application. Unfortunately this is where it all falls down as there is no legal way to download a map or activate it for your 'unsupported' device. A bit of a chicken-and-egg situation...
Without detailing anything or posting links there are other sites that have 'advice' and downloads to allow you to install the latest maps to your Kaiser running the latest Navigator. Latest maps are version 8.15, however there are sub-versions that are not compatible with all devices or software versions.
Andy
That sounds about right.
Although I'd add that TomTom won't tell you that this is what they've done. Here's my story.
I went to the US recently on business and needed to drive, so I bought a copy of TomTom's US map online. After a lot of idiotic argy-bargy and toing and froing with their support department, it emerged that TomTom Navigator 6 (the latest version that works in WinMob smartphones as opposed to their own devices) is supported by the map. Nowhere on the site was this made clear. Yet, as a registered, legitimate user, TomTom's systems know I have Nav 6 running on a PDA.
It also appears that tech support for Nav 6 is negligible (although I suspect from the backwash I picked up from other users, this isn't a software version problem but a systemic problem), as the company is not developing the WinMob version any further - probably down to the cost of supporting users as a result of it's awful support department...
Cutting it short, I eventually extracted both an admission that all the above was the case and a refund, but it was painful and took a fortnight, by which time I was in the US, without a map...
Okay I did a search and I have read all the tomtom vs Igo8 topics I am looking for a REAL version not a warez and with Maps that are supported and updated I can't even get maps for my tomtom7 PDA anymore (Unless I am just looking in the wrong spot, I have tomtom home Installed it says no maps are available)
It would be nice if I could try it out for a few days to make sure I like it before plopping down 100+ bucks When I do a google search for I-go 8 I get pages and pages of torrents and cracks and warezs but no site to buy a real version
Any suggestions (with links please)
I have the full streets and trips 2009 you used to be able to export maps from that to a pocket edition for pda I can't even find that option anymore (maybe I am just having a bad day)
US MAPS or Oregon
http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_to_buy
first site that popped up when i put igo8 in google. i linked the where to buy section
i love igo8 and cant think of using any of the other gps programs
i have been using igo8 for a while now.
as much as i love tomtom, i prefer igo8 with TTS
I'd recommend Garmin Mobile XT. I ran TomTom 6, then TomTom 7 on my Kaiser. Wasn't that happy with it. I've looked over iGo a few times, I just didn't like that it wouldn't let me navigate to a contact. Too much trouble. Plus, Garmin lets me get important information like gas prices, etc., and I can do google searches through it.
That's just my opinion though..
-John
iGo;
or iGuigance
Who-m3 said:
I've looked over iGo a few times, I just didn't like that it wouldn't let me navigate to a contact. Too much trouble.
That's just my opinion though..
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I navigate my contacts with no problems...only prerequisite for an address is no apartment/suite number in the contact's address. You can also go into 'Manage/Geocaching errors" inside igo8 to check addresses that cannot be found'.
I like some features of iGo8 (TTS and how much you can customize it mainly), but I find myself going back to Garmin Mobile XT all the time.
1) Garmin's routes seem to be better for me.
2) If you have data you can get fuel prices (might be a day or 2 old, but is handy while traveling).
3) You don't have to worry about your POIs being out of date since you can use Google Local Search (if you have data)...its gotten me out of a few binds before.
If you don't have data, then I would say iGo, but if you have data, then the Garmin Online features makes it over the top for me and well worth the money.
Why to pay ? Everything can be found for free
TomTom in not good choise - interface/maps etc. isn't very good. Don't have same feeling when use garmin or igo8. Garmin is best, maps are awesome. I know that garmin interface is not so briliant, but it do the job.
Also and igo8 is good, especially interface & tmc service, but maps are awful. Countries like macedonia and balcan are not covered well.
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Also and igo8 is good, especially interface & tmc service, but maps are awful. Countries like macedonia and balcan are not covered well.
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Serbian map (last update) is pretty good now, though still noticeably worse than Garmin. TomTom sucks big time.
i'm using tomtom7 with no problems. have tried igo8 but seems too slow for me. have used garmin before on my prophet and it was good.
overall, i prefer garmin, since it can use non garmin original maps - you can even make your own customised maps or just search for them on the net. i used the malsing maps when i went back to malaysia for a visit. very handy
try Copilot..love it ..had it for last 4 yrs since the first..Vario..copilot 7 is even better
inav iguidance 2009
ive used tomtom, garmin, and igo8 before. non of them beat iguidance. iguidance will announce the name of the street for you. example, "turn left on Wall St." instead of "turn left ahead".
garmin xt is great. especially if you are looking for accuracy
go to pocketnow.com and check out urban horizon, they have a 14 day free trial and it looks pretty cool you can either use it with data only and not store maps. or you can decide to download maps to device by state or region. im about to test it out in a bit when i get the newyork maps downloaded
i love my sprint telenav, especially the new VGA one for the TP... =) graphics are 10x better and it supports all my needs "gas prices, hotels, routes, point by point directions, ect"... i have the everything plan so its included for free...
I use Sygic McGuider in my Toshiba(WM Standart). Perfect,multiplatform solution from Slovak developers,very nice voices,nice graphics,perfect navigation... I don't know,how are the maps in US,but in EU is it very good.