Does anyone know how I can update my TomTom software (latest maps, speed cameras) for my Kaiser?
goto the TomTom website and you will find all the info you will need....
I can't seem to find anything about updating a Kaiser on the TomTom website.
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I can't seem to find anything about updating a Kaiser on the TomTom website.
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TOMTOM is an application. To update, you buy the software and the maps, they send it to you on a disk or SD card and you load it into your phone.
The problem seems to be that there are no more recent maps (and software) since TomTom doesn't know if they want to continue or not to provide "PDA" updates, except for some OEM deals like HTC. Did you read this long thread ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679
TomTom only officially sell TomTom 6 for Windows Mobiles devices. With this you are limited to version 6.x maps. TomTom have updated the software to version 7 - latest is 7.910(9185) - however this isn't commercially available but is packaged by some carriers into their ROMs for two HTC devices; the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro. Only these two devices are officially supported by TomTom for Navigator 7, both these devices are VGA as well. If you go to TomTom's MapShop website and select 'NAVIGATOR 7' as your version you are then prompted with a list of different carriers devices - only HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro varients are listed.
What has happened since is Navigator 7 has been ripped from these devices (and TomTom's website) and backward engineered to work on other devices (VGA & QVGA) and then repackaged into installable .cab files (check the long thread in the previous reply for links to the .cabs, there are several floating around). This will get you the actual TomTom Navigator 7 application installed, however it is pretty useless without a map and the only 'official' way to get a map is via the TomTom Home application. Unfortunately this is where it all falls down as there is no legal way to download a map or activate it for your 'unsupported' device. A bit of a chicken-and-egg situation...
Without detailing anything or posting links there are other sites that have 'advice' and downloads to allow you to install the latest maps to your Kaiser running the latest Navigator. Latest maps are version 8.15, however there are sub-versions that are not compatible with all devices or software versions.
Andy
That sounds about right.
Although I'd add that TomTom won't tell you that this is what they've done. Here's my story.
I went to the US recently on business and needed to drive, so I bought a copy of TomTom's US map online. After a lot of idiotic argy-bargy and toing and froing with their support department, it emerged that TomTom Navigator 6 (the latest version that works in WinMob smartphones as opposed to their own devices) is supported by the map. Nowhere on the site was this made clear. Yet, as a registered, legitimate user, TomTom's systems know I have Nav 6 running on a PDA.
It also appears that tech support for Nav 6 is negligible (although I suspect from the backwash I picked up from other users, this isn't a software version problem but a systemic problem), as the company is not developing the WinMob version any further - probably down to the cost of supporting users as a result of it's awful support department...
Cutting it short, I eventually extracted both an admission that all the above was the case and a refund, but it was painful and took a fortnight, by which time I was in the US, without a map...
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I hate to be the new guy who asks the question that is repeated all over the forum, but I did a search and was unable to find a good answer to my question. I am mainly concerned with which has the best features that doesn't use any kind of data connection. Also which software can i buy and put on my 8gb micro sd? i know some come on 2gb cards and I would rather use my own card. Also is there any kind of chat for the forum? I feel terrible asking stupid questions on the forum.
There is no "the best" in the real world.
None of below GPS navigator application use data connection, unless you want some extra features like weather, traffic etc...
1. tomtom 6.
2. Garmin XT, however, it locked to pre-installed included microsd. If you want to copy it to your card then you have to know some ways to generate the new key.
3. Destinator 6. Version 7 comes with text to speech, but it is not available for America.
4. CoPilot Live 7 comes with microSD, but I don't if it is locked or not.
5. iGuidance V4. Text to speech is included. The only one comes with 14 days trial, but the trial version doesn't work on PPC.
I'm running 1. and 2.
thanks for the reply. what i meant by the data connect comment was all the bells and whistles suck as real time traffic and all, but out of tom tom and garmin which do you use or like the most?
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...but out of tom tom and garmin which do you use or like the most?
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Well, it's hard to answer b/c I don't have hands-on experience on the others.
In America and countries which tomtom maps are available, tomtom is my choice. I run Garmin because it makes maps that tomtom doesn't.
I think I may try iGuidance v4 if tomtom won't launch a newer version for PDA. However, iGuidance v4 still has its problem, for example, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368373.
I've been using Route 66 on my Kaiser -- with full US maps, it takes just a bit more than 4GB, so it'll fit on a 6 or 8GB microSDHC. Its maps are pretty good, but probably getting to be a bit dated; when I bought it 2+ years ago, its maps were brand new, but they haven't been updated AFAIK.
Yeah, i travel to US often i see my friend using Telenav on his tilt. It sucks.
If you drive fast, you dont see the map getting updated, even with HSDPA on. [Ofcourse there is a disclaimer, do not use while driving].
In my opinion, TomTom is good. I have for both Europe and US.
For US, it takes a bit more than 1GB. Its quite good and user friendly as well!!
If I had a nickel for every time there was a thread like this I would be drinking a nice cold coke.
Golf software?
While we're on the topic of NA GPS sw, I haven't founf many suggestions for golf sw that's got plenty of US courses. Any suggestions?
I'm using TomTom 6, but I recently became concerned with the age of the maps. In Philadelphia, it cannot find Veteran's Stadium (demolished in 2004), which would indicate that that maps are from at least 2005. But at the same time, it can't find Lincoln Financial Field [Philadelphia Eagles] or Citizen's Bank Park [Philadelphia Phillies], both of which opened in 2004.
I paid for $70 for the latest maps through TomTom Home, but who knows, maybe they just didn't copy to the device right...
I dont think its necessarily TomTom's fault for the maps, except that they charged you for them. I use google maps and there are many things that aren't on the maps that have been there for at least 2 years. It seems that maps in general from all sources need updated.... Its why i like nautical charts... updated weekly... too bad i cant find a good cheap/ free nautical navigation program.
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There is no "the best" in the real world.
None of below GPS navigator application use data connection, unless you want some extra features like weather, traffic etc...
1. tomtom 6.
2. Garmin XT, however, it locked to pre-installed included microsd. If you want to copy it to your card then you have to know some ways to generate the new key.
3. Destinator 6. Version 7 comes with text to speech, but it is not available for America.
4. CoPilot Live 7 comes with microSD, but I don't if it is locked or not.
5. iGuidance V4. Text to speech is included. The only one comes with 14 days trial, but the trial version doesn't work on PPC.
I'm running 1. and 2.
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Just a note to everyone looking for GPS software for the Kaiser. I know many of you don't like the menacing machine of google, but google maps combined with the built in GPS works great. It also gives you the ability to look at a map, satalite overview as well as traffic.
Google Maps is really good not disputing that, but they need to update the maps and imagery... There are places that are no longer around in my town that are listed on the maps. And some of these places have been gone for years.
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Just a note to everyone looking for GPS software for the Kaiser. I know many of you don't like the menacing machine of google, but google maps combined with the built in GPS works great. It also gives you the ability to look at a map, satalite overview as well as traffic.
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I use googe maps combined with the built-in gps as well. It's extremely user friendly. It's almost dummy proof, lol, and has a nice gui too. Like in a previous post, it seems that many, if not all, gps programs have outdated maps ranging from 1 to 3 years, possibly more. I read somewhere that Google Maps' imagery (and Google Earth' s imagery) are 2 to 3 years ago due to National Security. I wouldnt be surprised if Tom Tom, Igo, Garmin, and other GPS programs used outdated maps as well.
If there were a system to supply updated maps for comm GPS programs like there is for nautical systems, that would be fricking sweet. Or a program that lets you use/ view nautical charts. I'm a mariner by trade so I love using GPS tools.
i have tried this http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/ it works great
Just came across this while bowsing the pocket GPS site. Anyone tried it, looks like a good alternative to TT7 and would be less hasle installing the maps.
http://www.alk.eu.com/diamond/
I'm already running Copilot 7 on my Diamond. I don't think this version is any different but I could be wrong. Installation of the standard version was easy anyway.
I purchased the Diamond version of CoPilot 7 from Handango. It installed quickly & easily. It's VGA & uses the scroll wheel to zoom in & out.
I haven't fully tested it yet but first use on foot lagged. I have messed a bit since so hopefully it will be better.
The gps picked up pretty quickly and accurately so happy there.
Copilot 7
hello,
Can you test it in your car ? and report if it lag like Tomtom navigator 7 or not.
tanks in advance.
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Lag? I've not noticed any lag and having used TT for several years now I'd likely be quite sensitive to any delays..
Mathew
I've been using the 7-day trial version of CoPilot7 on my Compact IV, and I have to say, the route planning seems to be WAAAAY better than TomTom5 on my MDA Pro! Not to mention that it seems you get traffic info on the CoPilot. Apparently, T-Mobile customers can upgrade to the full license for £50 all inc. Alternatively, for those that have a Diamond but not on T-Mobile, they might consider downloading it from Handango for just under £56:
http://www.handango.co.uk/PlatformP...pe=2§ionId=0&siteId=172&txtSearch=copilot
For the price difference, I'm wondering whether I'd be better off paying the extra £6-odd and getting it from Handango - that way, if I do load a cooked ROM, I've still got the full software for CoPilot?
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For the price difference, I'm wondering whether I'd be better off paying the extra £6-odd and getting it from Handango - that way, if I do load a cooked ROM, I've still got the full software for CoPilot?
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It may be an idea to pay the extra. I have flashed a new ROM 3 times in the past week so it's been useful having the files at hand. The CoPilot software auto installs when the Diamond boots up again which is very useful. I keep the files on the root of the internal storage as it recommends.
I don't know if it's the same for the normal version of CoPilot 7 but as I said the Diamond version is VGA and uses the scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the map.
I have been busy at work recently and haven't really thought about testing the software properly but I have some free time soon so will check it out more. In particular I want to check it when walking as alot have complained about the GPS on the Diamond when walking.
I've used quite a number of GPS navigation programs, Tom Tom 7, Co Pilot 7, NavMan, Garmin and I can say personal experience with Australian Maps is Tom Tom routes the best for me. I've had Co-pilot do a huge loop around a destination when there was a straight road to the place or choose really interesting routes.
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It may be an idea to pay the extra. I have flashed a new ROM 3 times in the past week so it's been useful having the files at hand. The CoPilot software auto installs when the Diamond boots up again which is very useful. I keep the files on the root of the internal storage as it recommends.
I don't know if it's the same for the normal version of CoPilot 7 but as I said the Diamond version is VGA and uses the scroll wheel to zoom in and out of the map.
I have been busy at work recently and haven't really thought about testing the software properly but I have some free time soon so will check it out more. In particular I want to check it when walking as alot have complained about the GPS on the Diamond when walking.
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Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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Normal version also installs on Internal Storage if you want it to. I had tried the normal version before and I'm now setting up the Diamond edition. If I spot any changes I'll report
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I've been using the 7-day trial version of CoPilot7 on my Compact IV
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May I ask where you got this from? I've searched high-and-low as I'm keen to try it out before parting with my cash...
(of course, posting this means I'll find it in the next few minutes...)
Mathew
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Normal version also installs on Internal Storage if you want it to. I had tried the normal version before and I'm now setting up the Diamond edition. If I spot any changes I'll report
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So, its been about a week, found anything?
I'm also very intersted in this.
BTW, the 7-day trial is only officially available with T-Mobile. I have asked ALK if there is a demo version of the Diamond edtion, but there isn't.
The other thing that puts me off is that for the combined price of the TD and CoPilot (with Euro maps) I could get a nice standalone sat nav solution. However, I have bene told by ALK support that if I buy the Diamond edition of CoPilot and then change my phone, I will need to re-purchase CoPilot. I don't know how true this is, but two different ALK support guys have now told me the same. However they did also say that the standard version would run perfectly happily on a Diamond.
It would be nice to confirm whether or not the Diamond edition does have other benefits over the standard, apart from the ease of installation. If not then I can't see any reason to buy the Diamond version.
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Normal version also is VGA and supports scroll wheel zoom. I think the only difference is a specific install for the Diamond (due to lack of SD slot). Normal version is easy install anyway.
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The normal version is not VGA, if you look closely at the splash screen and the graphics you will notice a slight pixellation of the images/graphics. This is because the regular WinMo version is designed for QVGA or lower.
But the maps do not pixellate because I assume they are vector graphics (or some equivalent).
I have the normal Copilot 7 and can confirm that all the veatures mentioned for the Dimond version appear to work the same for the normal version.
I installed by using the Copilot Central to install the program, then I just copied the folders off of my SD card to the internal storage.
Some instruction for copying the SD card can be found here:
http://support.alk.eu.com/cgi-bin/alk.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=649&p_created=1194449850
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I'm also very intersted in this.
BTW, the 7-day trial is only officially available with T-Mobile. I have asked ALK if there is a demo version of the Diamond edtion, but there isn't.
The other thing that puts me off is that for the combined price of the TD and CoPilot (with Euro maps) I could get a nice standalone sat nav solution. However, I have bene told by ALK support that if I buy the Diamond edition of CoPilot and then change my phone, I will need to re-purchase CoPilot. I don't know how true this is, but two different ALK support guys have now told me the same. However they did also say that the standard version would run perfectly happily on a Diamond.
It would be nice to confirm whether or not the Diamond edition does have other benefits over the standard, apart from the ease of installation. If not then I can't see any reason to buy the Diamond version.
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I think that like for TT7 the maps are registered to a code that is valid for the device it is being used on....change your device then there is a code bust and you cannot use the maps.....hence the need to get the maps again
.....not sure if/how you can transfer your maps from one device to another (when you upgrade)
Downloading TomTom Home 2.5 and connecting Orange (and maybe all variety) Diamond causes TOMTOM to offer a free trial of TOMTOM 7.9 with trial map and access to purchase others advancing the cause of those whose Diamonds did not have TOMTOM in ROM. Win for Diamond users. Win for TOMTOM map sales.
Sounds like very good news and TT actually applying some common sense for a change.
Does Home 2.5 work with Navigator? Previous versions did not and us PDA users were forced to use Version 1.5. It is for that reason that I did not instal it when it came out.
I have a legitimate version of TT6 up and running on my TD. Does this instal wipe any previous versions of TT off, or can both run together?
Can this version read version 6 maps - I would probably buy a Europe map but have a Southern Africa map I would want to keep in case I ever visit there again.
Maybe it's just because I live in Canada, but the only map I can download is the one free map. If I try to purchase a map via TomTom Home it shows none available. Kind of annoying since TomTom is pretty much useless if you can't buy maps. It does work for all the free voices and car images, etc though. Maybe I should have selected the UK as my country when I registered....
Tomtom Hone 2.5 encourages a connected diamond user to download working version of Tomtom 7 (v 7.90)for HTC devices which replaces extracted files from Diamonds with v7 in ROM. This allowed my access to previously purchased maps (v7.45maps) which wouldn't load with previous extracted versions of Tomtom 7. Home 2.5 has version for Navigator. Purchasing from Tomtom website for Navigator 7 leads to discounted 8.15 maps. Would assume these will work. My Orange diamond worked with maps of W Europe designated for O2.
The 6.75 maps will work with TomTom 7, I'm using them together just fine.
I'm using Tomtom V8 maps with Tomtom 7 no problem.
Worked for me. But does anyone know if this is a trial software, or the full version? I wouldn't want to spend $80 on a map of Australia, if the software runs out in a couple of weeks...
TomTom itself (the program) is free, its the maps you pay for, therefore it is a full version and will not run out.
Definitely full version. Can set to have cows mooing if speed limit exceeded. Tomtom will probably advise if v 8.15 maps operate if other site users cannot say. Cannot see why not as I am sure tomtom want map sales otherwise copilot will take htc users on. Home slightly slow to catch on to what you want . You may have to purchase maps from tomtom website and use Home to transfer to diamond rather than purchasing through Home itself.
I emailed TT "support" some questions about this and here is part of their reply
"Home is offering you this application in error. It is an update to the preinstalled version of Nav 7, so probably won't work."
So there you go - all of this is a figment of your imagination. It doesn't exist and if it did it wouldn't work anyway. And it is all your fault for wanting up to date software and maps from us.
Oh and by the way they also said that TTN6 is not compatible with my TD even if it works on it. I must get a copy of their dictionary to see what there definition of compatible is.
I am so glad that Tom Tom is back to its normal ways - I don't think I could have stood the shock of them becoming helpful.
Not complaining. Best example of unsolicited goods I've had in a long time. Is it tomtom's reluctance to preload in all markets or mobile companies wanting you to use their navigation system with costly data downloads?
Hi everyone,
Just a quick question, and I have tried searching...
I'm looking at upgrading my Tom tom v6 to v7 and buying new maps. The main reason I am doing this is because my maps are really out of date now, im finding lots of roads that don't exist, and extra turnings on roundabouts.
Does V7 with 8.25 maps work with mapshare?
This is a great feature, so hope us Pda users can take advantage.
Thanks,
Rob
Using an 825 map right now and with Tomtom Home2 I can use the mapshare function So the answer is: yes
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Using an 825 map right now and with Tomtom Home2 I can use the mapshare function So the answer is: yes
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Great, thanks for the advice Cryonic. Sounds like I will have some new settings to play with then...
what is the latest map now for tomtom on a pda 825........?
Depends on which part of the world you're using for western europe I believe it's 825.2159
^what about usa?
i'm out of the loop on the tomtom
Quick search tells me that 825.2159 is also the latest map for USA and Canada
Anyone know why western and centrel europe 825.2159 is only a gig in size but the older number 825.2158 is nearly 2 gig but the later is supposed to be newer
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Anyone know why western and centrel europe 825.2159 is only a gig in size but the older number 825.2158 is nearly 2 gig but the later is supposed to be newer
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This thread is all going to get people sore I suspect
I suggest you look on alternative forums for information on TT version 8.x maps....
However the reason the 8.25(2159) W&CE map is smaller than the 8.25(2158) version is due to the extra information the 2158 version contains. The actual map content is the same however some additional information in some maps is not required by some TT versions (not just the Windows Mobile version, but the 'real' TT PNA's as well). Some maps contain IQ routing information as well as Advanced Lane Guidance neither of which is supported by some TT versions such as the Windows Mobile versions. Therefore this information is stripped out of the map you would buy for your PDA (should it actually be available for a Kaiser, which it isn't.....).
Hopefully that reply doesn't cross the line? but if it does moderate it as you feel appropriate.
Andy
ADB100 said:
This thread is all going to get people sore I suspect
I suggest you look on alternative forums for information on TT version 8.x maps....
However the reason the 8.25(2159) W&CE map is smaller than the 8.25(2158) version is due to the extra information the 2158 version contains. The actual map content is the same however some additional information in some maps is not required by some TT versions (not just the Windows Mobile version, but the 'real' TT PNA's as well). Some maps contain IQ routing information as well as Advanced Lane Guidance neither of which is supported by some TT versions such as the Windows Mobile versions. Therefore this information is stripped out of the map you would buy for your PDA (should it actually be available for a Kaiser, which it isn't.....).
Hopefully that reply doesn't cross the line? but if it does moderate it as you feel appropriate.
Andy
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Thanks Andy but I do have 8.25(2159) running on my kaiser so it must be avaiable - shame we cant have the IQ though
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Thanks Andy but I do have 8.25(2159) running on my kaiser so it must be avaiable - shame we cant have the IQ though
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Yes so have many people, however it can't be running legally on a Kaiser - neither the application, nor the map as TomTom Navigator 7 for Windows Mobile is not commercially available. It is only available pre-installed on three HTC devices (up to now) - the Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and IOLite, and even then it is only in certain providers official ROMs. Users of these and ONLY these official devices can purchase and download official 8.x maps.
If you have it running on your Kaiser you didn't pay TomTom for it......
Andy
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Yes so have many people, however it can't be running legally on a Kaiser - neither the application, nor the map as TomTom Navigator 7 for Windows Mobile is not commercially available. It is only available pre-installed on three HTC devices (up to now) - the Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and IOLite, and even then it is only in certain providers official ROMs. Users of these and ONLY these official devices can purchase and download official 8.x maps.
If you have it running on your Kaiser you didn't pay TomTom for it......
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You got me
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Thanks Andy but I do have 8.25(2159) running on my kaiser so it must be avaiable - shame we cant have the IQ though
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well it is not supposed to be available for the kaiser. Unfortunately, TomTom considers this illegal use of software.
Hi
The mod has closed the TomTom thread below prematurely. I've tried to install TT7 on my diamond2 using a number of different cab files, but each time a message pops up cancelling the installation and tells me that my device is not compatible.
Can anyone direct me to a cab for TT7 that is PROVEN to have installed on a stock ROM diamond2?
Thanks
Stoatie
PS - the phone ROCKS. Touch flo much better and much more functional.
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Hi
The mod has closed the TomTom thread below prematurely. I've tried to install TT7 on my diamond2 using a number of different cab files, but each time a message pops up cancelling the installation and tells me that my device is not compatible.
Can anyone direct me to a cab for TT7 that is PROVEN to have installed on a stock ROM diamond2?
Thanks
Stoatie
PS - the phone ROCKS. Touch flo much better and much more functional.
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Hi, try searching for 'ttn7.9185 vga black.cab'. Looks like I might have caused some confusion with the other thread as its obviously the wrong resolution. I didn't realise sorry!
It does work though. Some of the interface is slightly stretched. I don't use TT so didn't really notice.
Apologies!
TomTom 6 does not work, it either crashes or the display is distorted.
I installed a TT7 cab from on these forums that works on the surface (when using a free map downloaded from tomtom's website) but screws up the navigation when driving.
Even if the version 7 cab worked properly there doesn't seem to be any way to get legal maps for it. My paid-for maps from my version6 tomtom are not recognised by version 7 and I have wasted £39 on new maps because Tomtom Home won't let me install them to my device stating that I have the wrong navigation software or something.
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TomTom 6 does not work, it either crashes or the display is distorted.
I installed a TT7 cab from on these forums that works on the surface (when using a free map downloaded from tomtom's website) but screws up the navigation when driving.
Even if the version 7 cab worked properly there doesn't seem to be any way to get legal maps for it. My paid-for maps from my version6 tomtom are not recognised by version 7 and I have wasted £39 on new maps because Tomtom Home won't let me install them to my device stating that I have the wrong navigation software or something.
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Exactly. Which is why at 11:30pm I gave up, consigned my TOMTOM, and the maps I'd legally paid for, to history and went to Handango and paid for and downloaded CoPilot. I heartily recommend it. TOMTOM are assholes. Sorry for the profanity, but they DONT DESERVE ANYTHING FROM US.
Chill...its a new unit...new software
Why should TomTom have to keep up with Windows?
Yes you paid but you paid for a product that worked for your previous phone.
I can sense your frustration but TomTom have no guarantee to ensure its products work with all products just like you wouldnt expect the first dos version of Pacman to work in XP/Vista
I'm sure they will in due time release a patch for it - and I'm sure a similar issue will occur in 6.5 and in 7 of windows mobile
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Chill...its a new unit...new software
Why should TomTom have to keep up with Windows?
Yes you paid but you paid for a product that worked for your previous phone.
I can sense your frustration but TomTom have no guarantee to ensure its products work with all products just like you wouldnt expect the first dos version of Pacman to work in XP/Vista
I'm sure they will in due time release a patch for it - and I'm sure a similar issue will occur in 6.5 and in 7 of windows mobile
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It's nothing to do with the new phone. It's their decision to treat everyone like criminals. The last time I changed phone they made me wait 2 months before they would let me transfer the licence for the maps to the new device. This was Western Europe which I bought for a sizable chunk of cash from them. Their support is awful. The software itself is clunky on the device and terrible on the desktop. I just don't feel like devoting 2 days of my life to this everytime I get a new phone.
I have to say CoPilot has been a dream in comparison. It looks so much fresher and is so much more intuitive to use. Things like contact look-up just WORK, and it picks up the GPS position in seconds compared to the TOMTOM. Honestly, I've seen people saying the CoPilot routing isn't great, and I have to confess that I haven't used it for any challenging long routes yet, but I'm EXTREMELY impressed by it. It's built for Windows Mobile, and compared to TOMTOM, it shows.
Anyone who is thinking of plonking down cash for TT maps should instead go and download the CoPilot trial to have a look at it.
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Exactly. Which is why at 11:30pm I gave up, consigned my TOMTOM, and the maps I'd legally paid for, to history and went to Handango and paid for and downloaded CoPilot. I heartily recommend it. TOMTOM are assholes. Sorry for the profanity, but they DONT DESERVE ANYTHING FROM US.
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Hi,
What version did you purchase, Was it the touch diamond edition or the normal version?
Thanks
caghelo said:
Hi,
What version did you purchase, Was it the touch diamond edition or the normal version?
Thanks
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I got the touch Diamond version. You download 2 folders which you copy to the device, and it then kicks off the installation. I was worried cause I'd selected the Diamond version that it would install in main memory instead of on the card, but it gave me the same options you'd expect anyway.
wonderstoat said:
It's nothing to do with the new phone. It's their decision to treat everyone like criminals. The last time I changed phone they made me wait 2 months before they would let me transfer the licence for the maps to the new device. This was Western Europe which I bought for a sizable chunk of cash from them. Their support is awful. The software itself is clunky on the device and terrible on the desktop. I just don't feel like devoting 2 days of my life to this everytime I get a new phone.
I have to say CoPilot has been a dream in comparison. It looks so much fresher and is so much more intuitive to use. Things like contact look-up just WORK, and it picks up the GPS position in seconds compared to the TOMTOM. Honestly, I've seen people saying the CoPilot routing isn't great, and I have to confess that I haven't used it for any challenging long routes yet, but I'm EXTREMELY impressed by it. It's built for Windows Mobile, and compared to TOMTOM, it shows.
Anyone who is thinking of plonking down cash for TT maps should instead go and download the CoPilot trial to have a look at it.
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Where can I find the Copilot trial?
wonderstoat said:
I got the touch Diamond version. You download 2 folders which you copy to the device, and it then kicks off the installation. I was worried cause I'd selected the Diamond version that it would install in main memory instead of on the card, but it gave me the same options you'd expect anyway.
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Hi,
I have the Touch Diamond2 and the CoPilot 7 Touch Diamond edition. However, i cannot get the program to work.
1. I copied the entire contents of thd DVD to my microSD card and started the install (the copilot.wm6ppc.cab file in the 2577 directory).
2. It installs but when i start CoPilot, i get a "Unable to open CoPilot. Please make sure that the storage card is inserted or that the data has been properly downloaded"
3. After pressing ok, i eventually get to the 'Tips and Tricks' screen, then i cant use the screen to input and then forced to soft reset the phone
Does anyone know a way around this problem?
Thanks for any help.
M