got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
ZDNet Tech Report said:
Windows Mobile 7 phones in Q1 2009?
Mary Jo Foley: According to a report from at least one
major handset maker, Microsoft is planning to make available
the final bits of its next mobile OS release in time for them to
start selling Windows Mobile 7 phones by Q1 2009
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Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
ZDNet Tech Report said:
Windows Mobile 7 phones in Q1 2009?
Mary Jo Foley: According to a report from at least one
major handset maker, Microsoft is planning to make available
the final bits of its next mobile OS release in time for them to
start selling Windows Mobile 7 phones by Q1 2009
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Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
SkyFire kinda blows!
Look skyfire is nice and all, personally I find it a big sluggish but the sudo flash support is nice. But its a mute point, Microsoft has licensed flash to go in PIE or what ever browser they are putting in WM7 and it will be decoded and ran locally on the device.
moegdaog said:
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
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I sincerly hope that the skyfire is much better than the version I've been using.. its a resource hog and all data is available to the servers admins...
man i could give two ****z if skyfire admins get to know that im viewing...yahoo email, xda developers (if anything its publity for xda developers) Allhiphop.com, ESPN.COM, CBS/CNN/reuters news etc...etc..etc..for the sheer fact that i get an incredible flash and java embeded PDA B-R-O-W-S-E-R! its unreal how technology keeps surprising me daily, the meer thought of watcing youtube on a mini browser on a mini labtop phone which is my kaiser is genius and should be welcomed with open arms. I cringe when i think about the times i actually used to download flash player 7 and those other useless flash apps from adobe for no apparent reason because those apps did absolutely nothing. Skyfire is gonna be revolutionary...whats next? anything a desktop or labtop can do our PDA's are going to be able to do it sooner or later. Instead of computer/labtop shopping,c onsumers will be pocketpc/phone shopping...why not? a phone that is also your computer in miniature form? unreal...i cant wait..were almost their brother.
I agree with the dude above me. Skyfire is the best browser I have used. It is brand new and still in testing but it is going to surpass opera. I have it on my phone right now and it's crazy. As for the Update. I won't flash the upgrade on my phone. I'll just wait for a better cooked version. Patience is a virtue people. I'll wait till most of the bugs are worked out by the Cooks.
divineholiness said:
Look skyfire is nice and all, personally I find it a big sluggish but the sudo flash support is nice. But its a mute point, Microsoft has licensed flash to go in PIE or what ever browser they are putting in WM7 and it will be decoded and ran locally on the device.
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Well its deffinetly not going to be PIE anymore with WM7....Microsoft has been testing and releasing beta's to be tested by "testers" for almost a year now for deepfish. The deepfish that i tested during the beta trials did not..and i mean did not have any sort of flash or java support. Although it was significantly better then PIE in terms of zooming features and touch rendering withs crolling through pages like how most mobile browsers are having now. This platform or standard was set by the iphones safari..so microsoft will atleast have a browser for WM7 that will mimic safari, wether they will keep the PIE name going to introduce the deepfish brand name is not completly sure but it will rival safari in all aspects. If they are smart, they will up the stakes and go with skyfire as their default browser because of the sheer uproar and anticipation skyfire has been arrowsing in the pocketpc/mobile world....plain and simple because if they dont skyfire's official browser launch will fly off the shelves and Microsoft's monopoly on their internet browser will be in jeopardy since this is not like their desktop OS domination. The ability of 3rd party software that Windows mobile is so great at will eventually hurt them in the browser department..deepfish or PIE will be obsolete. Especially if skyfire's offcial browser drops before WM7 hits the market.
Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
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Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
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yea well evryone is intitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft
yea gq just wait for your provider to drop their revised version of 6.1...im on WM6 also..and i love it and i see no need to upgrade it at all even if t-mobile my carrier drops the upgrade. 6.0 has no problems from what i see and experienced for the past 4 months now that ive had the tilt. And every other thread i see in the kaisers general or software section is something about how an app wont work in 6.1...thats ridiculous, especialy since HTC themselves droped a rom.
anywayz.....boing
Boinng said:
Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
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yea well evryone is entitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft
Is there any news about improved connectivity with desktop PCs via a newer Activesync/WMDC? Thats the weak link of the current WM platform and the part that needs the most redevelopment. Never mind the flashier bits and bobs on the phone, for me that part does all I need it to at the moment (well would if it weren't for bugs in HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'). Its things like decent transfer speeds from the desktop PC that matter more to me.
Flying Kiwi said:
Is there any news about improved connectivity with desktop PCs via a newer Activesync/WMDC? Thats the weak link of the current WM platform and the part that needs the most redevelopment. Never mind the flashier bits and bobs on the phone, for me that part does all I need it to at the moment (well would if it weren't for bugs in HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'). Its things like decent transfer speeds from the desktop PC that matter more to me.
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+1
USB 2 PPC!
moegdaog said:
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
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This release was planned almost a year ago, thanks for the memories, xda_tool
moegdaog said:
yea well evryone is entitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft
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Deepfish was a technology preview, no more and no less - I don't think it was ever even officially classed as "beta", let alone confirmed as any kind of real product. It was released well over a year ago and since then nothing - no more registrations for the preview, no user feedback ever posted on their feedback page, nada. It's history now.
MS have confirmed that PIE will continue to be improved and developed (as it was with the 6.1 update) and will be completely rebuilt shortly based on IE6 code to make it "desktop grade" - see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...ing-to-windows-mobile-6-1-by-the-end-of-2008/
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Thats the thing because the slow transfer speeds are not due to USB bus transfer rate limitations but bottlenecks associated with going through the phones hardware and activesync/WDCM. Have you ever tried transferring a large file directly to your microSD card using it's reader and then tried the same test with the card in the phone using activesync - if so, you'll know what I'm getting at (it's many times slower via activesync even when the card reader and phone are both plugged into the same USB port). The TyTN II is already a USB 2.0 device (but only Full Speed not Hi Speed).
Skyfire sucks because of no word wrap, and loading websites when zooming in.
I still find Opera Mini to be the best browser! Insta-loads the whole site, and word wraps perfectly!
I do beleive it will be IE in the new OS's - alphas of the new IE have been shown - if memory serves me correctly, its based on the windows IE6 core rather than PIE, and has full zooming support.
Now whatever your opinion of IE, you must admit IE is preferable to Safari 90% of the time and you are pretty much guaranteed it will display everything perfectly. Obviously we'd prefer the IE7/IE8 cores, but its deffo a step in the right direction. the concept of MS using any browser than IE is somewhat hard to beleive, and to consider that theyd use a browser that has a desktop equivilent is like admitting theyve lost the browser war - its not gonna happen - so that really discounts minimo and opera (as nice as opera is on the mobile)
I cant find the link to the video i saw of winmo ie6 to back up my statements, i think it was on modaco, but i assume you, i didnt dream it!
oh, typical, i finally hit the post button, and i find it!
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...ing-to-windows-mobile-6-1-by-the-end-of-2008/
There is a video and a screenshot of it actually working within that post - so this isnt stuff pulled out of the air... plus its shown running on a universal - so that means we could well get this cooked in other roms too. HAZAA!
Duplicate threads merged.
Deepfish isn't just a browser
I don't think moegdaog get its, I don't think deepfish was ever a browser replacement but a interface idea, that has html able. Also Skyfire sucks, its just a go between until we have full flash support on the device locally.
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I'm coming back home...
Tomorrow my AT&T Tilt comes in the mail. I had jumped ship for a little while to try out the Iphone for a little while. As I already knew/expected/predicted, it sucked. I finally got someone to trade my unlocked Iphone for a brand new in the box Tilt. I'm so glad to be back in the hackable/crackable world of HTC and Windows Mobile.
However, I got used to the great browsing experience with mobile safari. Are there any full browsers for windows mobile? I'm looking for a browser that can view full pages and supports javascript and ajax. It would also be great if it came in the neighborhood of... FREE!
Please feel free to flame me for jumping ship. Blame it on the 620mhz arm. I had to experience it.
Opera mini based on Java comes close. I do not recall if it is free but it does show whole pages and you can expand specific spots by a simple touch with finger or stylus. It is also totally scrollable (I use finger nails).
Opera mini is good and is free, I've been using one called NetFront Browser that is really decent too. It's apparently in beta now, don't know if it'll still be free when it goes to release.
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Opera mini is good and is free, I've been using one called NetFront Browser that is really decent too. It's apparently in beta now, don't know if it'll still be free when it goes to release.
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I won't be - it'll cost $30.
In general, I recommend Opera Mini the most, particularly with my additional hacks & tweaks. Read my related articles.
Test shows it running on a touch, seems pretty fast to me:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/05/v...y-quick-slick/
Makes PIE look like complete rubbish, which it is.
why bash PIE?
it hasnt got a proper update for only 4 years?
Rather impressive that a four year old browser can do anything the rate sites are progressing!
Link is incorrect:/t
my link: http://www.opera.com/b2b/solutions/mobile/video/
deepfish-copy?
Except Deepfish has the pages rendered on MS's servers, then sent to the phone. That means 2x as slow, and no interactivity (no flash, no clicking on links). This is actually rendering the page on the phone.
I just want to know when is this going to be released? Does anyone know?
They are making a beta soon, but haven't released it yet.
hopefully they will let 8.65 owners use the same registration code...
hslayer said:
hopefully they will let 8.65 owners use the same registration code...
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Errrm, does my Opera 8.5 code let me upgrade to 8.65? Wouldn't hope too much
Anyway, what happened to v.9?
Looks good tho', and I though 8.65 looked quite nice. Only problem is the same thing that stopped me buying Opera (again) last time which is the exchange rate on the store.
All I need is to need more than Opera Mini
Its probably gonna be an upgrade for the 8.X series users and then 9.5 would probably another purchase and 9.0 would probably a better 8.x series.
Jozer99 said:
Except Deepfish has the pages rendered on MS's servers, then sent to the phone. That means 2x as slow, and no interactivity (no flash, no clicking on links). This is actually rendering the page on the phone.
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Why would deepfish be 2x as slow ?
it does 2x more path to reach your cell, but not 2x slower...
Basically that's what Opera Mini does : preprocessing on the server side, for optimised bandwidth & screen usage. (Blackberry servers also do that)
But back to Opera Mobile 9.5: I hope that will offer much better experience than Opera Mini (which is already the best IMHO)
Just because if they want us to pay, that has to be worth the money
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I saw the video for this today - cannot wait for the release!
Love opera 9.5 for PC so this could actually be something i'd pay for on WM
What about Skyfire.
http://www.skyfire.com/
The fact that it is free is great.
Its great how all these great web browsers are still in beta
After reading a comment related to netfront, I gave it a try.
These folks have made big improvements, the visual bookmarks are sexy
The browsing is fast like an Opera...
Now I'll hesitate between Opera Mini, Netfront 3.5 and Opera 9.5 if it goes public soon
I have an AT&T Tilt, and I am so unsatisfied with IE. I am seeking suggestions on a new browser.
I would really like something that will allow tabbed browser windows, if possible.
Any and all suggestions are appreciated, but know that I am kinda retarded as far as computer speak is concerned
Thanks!
I hear that opera is meant to be good... im pretty sure that htc switched over to it on the newer phones... i havent tried it yet myself, but anythings better than PIE...
yeah diamond and newer comes with opera mobile 9.X
which support javascripts, ajax and tabs
give skyfire a look too
opera mobile NSFAN's build
ok, i didnt have time to do a search, but i found this thread so may i have a uestion.
I saw some videos on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpRF_OVHfvA, and my qouestion is is it possible that the kaiser i so fast?because whne i bought my diamond i bought it because it has much better hardwer than the tytn II, but now i saw hyperdragons and others rom and i amazed...shocked.
what do you think with all this tweaks, how much will be different the kaiser from the diamond in speed/usage etc...will it be more slower or i wont feel the hardware differenc?
I think it is awesone that it looks like the tf3d/i read?that is included/ nice job realy.
of, do not forget that i don play games on diamond, so i think i wont play on tytn Ii if i buy it...
I use diamond with aFast diamond rom...So if anyone have/had this 2 devices can he send me a pm or post here a message!
why dont you use PIE PLUS it adds a bunch of stuff to PIE including tabs i like it and its free
In my opinion PIE is horrible. Besides the word "funderful" (long story), there is nothing I hate more than Pocket IE. There are a TON of free alternatives you should try. I currently have all of these on my device, and most are capable of true desktop browsing.
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta NSFan's build (this build supports ~10 tabs and is fast)
Bolt (still in beta, released very recently, pretty damn fast, and you need a Java program, like the one that comes on the Tilt)
Iris (Like NSFan's build of Opera it supports tabs. It's still in beta, pretty good, based on the WebKit rendering engine like Android's browser and Safari Mobile)
Skyfire (true Flash 10 and Silverlight 2 support, need I say more?)
Opera Mini (kinda like PIE, except it doesn't suck and it goes fast, and you need a Java program)
All of these browsers are quite capable of a pleasant browsing experience, and all should be quite easy to find on google. They're all free too, but Iris and Bolt require registration before you can download (but they both seem like reputable companies).
Dave
materijalmen said:
ok, i didnt have time to do a search, but i found this thread so may i have a uestion.
I saw some videos on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpRF_OVHfvA, and my qouestion is is it possible that the kaiser i so fast?because whne i bought my diamond i bought it because it has much better hardwer than the tytn II, but now i saw hyperdragons and others rom and i amazed...shocked.
what do you think with all this tweaks, how much will be different the kaiser from the diamond in speed/usage etc...will it be more slower or i wont feel the hardware differenc?
I think it is awesone that it looks like the tf3d/i read?that is included/ nice job realy.
of, do not forget that i don play games on diamond, so i think i wont play on tytn Ii if i buy it...
I use diamond with aFast diamond rom...So if anyone have/had this 2 devices can he send me a pm or post here a message!
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anybody got diamond and after tytn II?
we use a browser call ucweb in china,it's the best one in the browsers i used,but i dont know it has english verson or not ,you can searth with"ucweb"to get the url to download it.
sorry for my poor english speaking
yueker227 said:
we use a browser call ucweb in china,it's the best one in the browsers i used,but i dont know it has english verson or not ,you can searth with"ucweb"to get the url to download it.
sorry for my poor english speaking
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ucweb does have an english version but it kinda reminded me of the browser that was on my moto about 8 years ago. It is really fast but is poorly created. I do not think it supports flash, at least I don't remember. Here is a cab if anyone is interested
http://gigaom.com/2009/10/19/on-mobile-phones-firefoxs-big-bet-is-nokia-android/
...Mozilla will release Firefox for Windows Mobile and then Android, he said.
Why? Because he thinks there is a lot of overlap among folks who use Firefox and those who might buy Android-based devices...
“Until recently, Android was Java, but they released Android NDK which uses C/C++ and that is what we program in, so we are now looking at developing Firefox for Android,” said Jay Sullivan, vice president of Mobile for Mozilla.
“Mozilla Firefox will be the first mobile browser to support add-ons,” boasted Sullivan, pointing to the fact that nearly 2 billion Firefox add-ons have been downloaded to date, and they’ve spawned successful companies such as StumbleUpon. He expects similar traction for Firefox on the mobile. “We have been spending a lot of time on making sure that JavaScript and our engine work really fast on ARM processors,” Sullivan said. “That has taken some time.”
The reason: Mozilla wants developers to embrace the more open HTML5 standards instead of developing separately for different mobile platforms. “For a company of 20 people, it is hard to support multiple platforms,” Lilly said. “Even if one platform takes 20 percent of the market, there are other platforms you still need to develop for, and that isn’t easy for a small company. So that is why we are with Google in supporting HTML5 technologies.”
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Watch out, WebKit! Gecko's coming to storm the scene.
I can't wait!
That would be nice. This webkit-based thing feels too much like apple has had its slimy hands in it.
cannot wait, this is gonna be superb!
As horrid as the test version was on WinMo, I'm not holding out any serious hopes.
whats that like firefox mobile
kilaclwnjuggalo said:
whats that like firefox mobile
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yes.........
It cant be much worse than the old WinMo version was.
And with webkit generally being quicker than Gecko, and with firefox's main bow of extensions not really having a place on a mobile (with current memory constraints at least), I'm not really that excited.
Here's hoping though!
Opera Mobile on the other hand......
kevo said:
It cant be much worse than the old WinMo version was.
And with webkit generally being quicker than Gecko, and with firefox's main bow of extensions not really having a place on a mobile (with current memory constraints at least), I'm not really that excited.
Here's hoping though!
Opera Mobile on the other hand......
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Opera can just die.
Does it actually work on ANY website? Or is it *absolutely* worthless?
lbcoder said:
Opera can just die.
Does it actually work on ANY website? Or is it *absolutely* worthless?
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lol. It works on all the websites I've come across while using it.
lotherius said:
As horrid as the test version was on WinMo, I'm not holding out any serious hopes.
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that was also winblows mobile.....anything winmobile touches turns to crap. just my opinion. I cant wait to see how this turns out though, should be a great addition to the android market
hey i love firefox, so i am hoping to get a great version of fennec for android
I"m curious about how the add ons would work on a mobile
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I"m curious about how the add ons would work on a mobile
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as am I. considering that the non-selling points of addons in the past was memory constraints, and now with the advent of being able to install the app directly to the sd instead of the phones internal storage through android, this could work out very well.
we'll have to just wait and see
lotherius said:
As horrid as the test version was on WinMo, I'm not holding out any serious hopes.
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I think the key part of your statement was "wimo"... which basically excludes the possibility of anything actually being *good*.
Opera Only Looks Good!
I keep hearing that the Opera browser works on most sites. Well, it doesn't work very well on many sites. I have even Opera 10 with turbo and it is limited. Now the Skyfire browser isn't so pretty but it works on most sites. I hope some of these browsers for mobile get it together.
Opera is a *terrible* browser -- on ANY platform.
From time to time I look at it, but it is cumbersome, and tends to just *not work*.
John Cipolletti said:
I keep hearing that the Opera browser works on most sites. Well, it doesn't work very well on many sites. I have even Opera 10 with turbo and it is limited. Now the Skyfire browser isn't so pretty but it works on most sites. I hope some of these browsers for mobile get it together.
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Little update:
http://blog.vlad1.com/2010/02/02/android-progress-more-pixels-edition/
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https://wiki.mozilla.org/Android
Blahaha! Mike you got banned lmfaoo!
lbcoder said:
Opera is a *terrible* browser -- on ANY platform.
From time to time I look at it, but it is cumbersome, and tends to just *not work*.
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what a load of bollocks, its faster than stock browseron wifi when its on gprs and every site i use works perfectly and display great, sips ram aswell
Honestly I downloaded the official nightly pre-alpha build of Fennec and I'm quite disappointed. For starters the APK is 11mb and installed using CM6 Froyo APP2SD it showed installed it took up 18mb. This is the largest app for Android I've seen yet.
On top of the bloat it won't run at all on my G1. I just get a black screen. Considering Fennec is written for Android 2.1+ and uses the NDK it's probably built like Flash using Snapdragon specific optimizations that are incompatible with previous generation Androids. I'll probably keep an eye on it, but I doubt it will ever work on anything older then the Nexus One.
Hi - I just purchased a HD7, have a Android phone (HD2) and Blackberry Bold, but wanted to know if there is anything working for wifi calling.
I know this does not have UMA, but wifi calling like Skype or Google Voice?
The marketplace in Windows 7 I don't like because I don't think I see a sort feature by like 'free' vs 'paid' , etc.
I don't see Skype, see some 3rd party Google Voice stuff with bad reviews and don't see Google Maps.
The TeleNav on the phone from T-mobile requires a monthly subscription which i don't want.
Anyone know apps/etc. that are out there that would suit what I'm looking for here.
Thanks
the best free app I've found for navigation is "xMaps". It's pretty clunky and seems to lack turn-by-turn navigation but at least it works as a basic map. There might be something better availble as far as paid apps go, but I never venture into the paid apps section becase I'm cheap
I hope the app selection gets better with time and that T-Mobile finally rolls out that damned NoDo update!
EDIT: Also, there is a way to sort the list between Free and Paid apps. When you've selected the category of apps you want and the list has been populated, swipe the screen to the left 3 times until you reach the "Free" section.
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
trapperjem said:
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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yiannisthegreek said:
I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
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Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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Thanks..just downloaded it.
Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
julez456 said:
Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
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Thanks for that. I can live without some of the previous stuff but I need TomTom also I need a program like WMwifirouter for this OS. I've been using my TP2 connecting my laptop wirelessly to the Net when away for over a year now and it's a great little program. Anyone know a way with an HD7 to use it as a modem?
yiannisthegreek said:
Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
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I hope your right. I don't plan on getting rid of mine but right now it's not getting used much.
trapperjem said:
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
Did you actually LOOK for Adobe Reader? Cause it's there in the marketplace and has been forever.
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
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I like your optimism but the facts are a bit more complex than that; the marketplace is available only in 20 countries (roughly 10% of the total) and this is a very serious issue.
Take iGO 8 for instance, it was developed by the Hungarians, do you honestly believe they will commit resources to port their brilliant software to a platform not even available in their native country?
I want to have a state of the art OS but WP7 is so crippled that is no match for the competition.
I still hope for a better future for my HD7 but when? When?