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Windows Mobile 7 Update!!

got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
ZDNet Tech Report said:
Windows Mobile 7 phones in Q1 2009?
Mary Jo Foley: According to a report from at least one
major handset maker, Microsoft is planning to make available
the final bits of its next mobile OS release in time for them to
start selling Windows Mobile 7 phones by Q1 2009
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Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!

got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
ZDNet Tech Report said:
Windows Mobile 7 phones in Q1 2009?
Mary Jo Foley: According to a report from at least one
major handset maker, Microsoft is planning to make available
the final bits of its next mobile OS release in time for them to
start selling Windows Mobile 7 phones by Q1 2009
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Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!

SkyFire kinda blows!
Look skyfire is nice and all, personally I find it a big sluggish but the sudo flash support is nice. But its a mute point, Microsoft has licensed flash to go in PIE or what ever browser they are putting in WM7 and it will be decoded and ran locally on the device.

moegdaog said:
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
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I sincerly hope that the skyfire is much better than the version I've been using.. its a resource hog and all data is available to the servers admins...

man i could give two ****z if skyfire admins get to know that im viewing...yahoo email, xda developers (if anything its publity for xda developers) Allhiphop.com, ESPN.COM, CBS/CNN/reuters news etc...etc..etc..for the sheer fact that i get an incredible flash and java embeded PDA B-R-O-W-S-E-R! its unreal how technology keeps surprising me daily, the meer thought of watcing youtube on a mini browser on a mini labtop phone which is my kaiser is genius and should be welcomed with open arms. I cringe when i think about the times i actually used to download flash player 7 and those other useless flash apps from adobe for no apparent reason because those apps did absolutely nothing. Skyfire is gonna be revolutionary...whats next? anything a desktop or labtop can do our PDA's are going to be able to do it sooner or later. Instead of computer/labtop shopping,c onsumers will be pocketpc/phone shopping...why not? a phone that is also your computer in miniature form? unreal...i cant wait..were almost their brother.

I agree with the dude above me. Skyfire is the best browser I have used. It is brand new and still in testing but it is going to surpass opera. I have it on my phone right now and it's crazy. As for the Update. I won't flash the upgrade on my phone. I'll just wait for a better cooked version. Patience is a virtue people. I'll wait till most of the bugs are worked out by the Cooks.

divineholiness said:
Look skyfire is nice and all, personally I find it a big sluggish but the sudo flash support is nice. But its a mute point, Microsoft has licensed flash to go in PIE or what ever browser they are putting in WM7 and it will be decoded and ran locally on the device.
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Well its deffinetly not going to be PIE anymore with WM7....Microsoft has been testing and releasing beta's to be tested by "testers" for almost a year now for deepfish. The deepfish that i tested during the beta trials did not..and i mean did not have any sort of flash or java support. Although it was significantly better then PIE in terms of zooming features and touch rendering withs crolling through pages like how most mobile browsers are having now. This platform or standard was set by the iphones safari..so microsoft will atleast have a browser for WM7 that will mimic safari, wether they will keep the PIE name going to introduce the deepfish brand name is not completly sure but it will rival safari in all aspects. If they are smart, they will up the stakes and go with skyfire as their default browser because of the sheer uproar and anticipation skyfire has been arrowsing in the pocketpc/mobile world....plain and simple because if they dont skyfire's official browser launch will fly off the shelves and Microsoft's monopoly on their internet browser will be in jeopardy since this is not like their desktop OS domination. The ability of 3rd party software that Windows mobile is so great at will eventually hurt them in the browser department..deepfish or PIE will be obsolete. Especially if skyfire's offcial browser drops before WM7 hits the market.

Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.

Boinng said:
Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
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yea well evryone is intitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft

yea gq just wait for your provider to drop their revised version of 6.1...im on WM6 also..and i love it and i see no need to upgrade it at all even if t-mobile my carrier drops the upgrade. 6.0 has no problems from what i see and experienced for the past 4 months now that ive had the tilt. And every other thread i see in the kaisers general or software section is something about how an app wont work in 6.1...thats ridiculous, especialy since HTC themselves droped a rom.
anywayz.....boing
Boinng said:
Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
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yea well evryone is entitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft

Is there any news about improved connectivity with desktop PCs via a newer Activesync/WMDC? Thats the weak link of the current WM platform and the part that needs the most redevelopment. Never mind the flashier bits and bobs on the phone, for me that part does all I need it to at the moment (well would if it weren't for bugs in HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'). Its things like decent transfer speeds from the desktop PC that matter more to me.

Flying Kiwi said:
Is there any news about improved connectivity with desktop PCs via a newer Activesync/WMDC? Thats the weak link of the current WM platform and the part that needs the most redevelopment. Never mind the flashier bits and bobs on the phone, for me that part does all I need it to at the moment (well would if it weren't for bugs in HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'). Its things like decent transfer speeds from the desktop PC that matter more to me.
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+1
USB 2 PPC!

moegdaog said:
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
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This release was planned almost a year ago, thanks for the memories, xda_tool

moegdaog said:
yea well evryone is entitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft
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Deepfish was a technology preview, no more and no less - I don't think it was ever even officially classed as "beta", let alone confirmed as any kind of real product. It was released well over a year ago and since then nothing - no more registrations for the preview, no user feedback ever posted on their feedback page, nada. It's history now.
MS have confirmed that PIE will continue to be improved and developed (as it was with the 6.1 update) and will be completely rebuilt shortly based on IE6 code to make it "desktop grade" - see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...ing-to-windows-mobile-6-1-by-the-end-of-2008/

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Thats the thing because the slow transfer speeds are not due to USB bus transfer rate limitations but bottlenecks associated with going through the phones hardware and activesync/WDCM. Have you ever tried transferring a large file directly to your microSD card using it's reader and then tried the same test with the card in the phone using activesync - if so, you'll know what I'm getting at (it's many times slower via activesync even when the card reader and phone are both plugged into the same USB port). The TyTN II is already a USB 2.0 device (but only Full Speed not Hi Speed).

Skyfire sucks because of no word wrap, and loading websites when zooming in.
I still find Opera Mini to be the best browser! Insta-loads the whole site, and word wraps perfectly!

I do beleive it will be IE in the new OS's - alphas of the new IE have been shown - if memory serves me correctly, its based on the windows IE6 core rather than PIE, and has full zooming support.
Now whatever your opinion of IE, you must admit IE is preferable to Safari 90% of the time and you are pretty much guaranteed it will display everything perfectly. Obviously we'd prefer the IE7/IE8 cores, but its deffo a step in the right direction. the concept of MS using any browser than IE is somewhat hard to beleive, and to consider that theyd use a browser that has a desktop equivilent is like admitting theyve lost the browser war - its not gonna happen - so that really discounts minimo and opera (as nice as opera is on the mobile)
I cant find the link to the video i saw of winmo ie6 to back up my statements, i think it was on modaco, but i assume you, i didnt dream it!

oh, typical, i finally hit the post button, and i find it!
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...ing-to-windows-mobile-6-1-by-the-end-of-2008/
There is a video and a screenshot of it actually working within that post - so this isnt stuff pulled out of the air... plus its shown running on a universal - so that means we could well get this cooked in other roms too. HAZAA!

Duplicate threads merged.

Deepfish isn't just a browser
I don't think moegdaog get its, I don't think deepfish was ever a browser replacement but a interface idea, that has html able. Also Skyfire sucks, its just a go between until we have full flash support on the device locally.

Opera is comming to andoid

has some problems working with the touch interface since its java derived now, its just the opera mini

apatcas said:
has some problems working with the touch interface since its java derived now, its just the opera mini
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Opera Mini is really bad... Opera Mobile was pretty good (on Windows Mobile atleast).

Koush said:
Opera Mini is really bad... Opera Mobile was pretty good (on Windows Mobile atleast).
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I have to disagree. I found using ie explorer on my mda vario and even other windows mobile devices painfully slow. Once i tried opera mini i never went back. Web browsing on my mda vario with opera mini is still faster than the g1 with googles browser.
Dont get me wrong i love googles browser and the browsing is no where near as slow as what my vario was. But when opera mini comes out, if it works ill be using it.
The only downside to using opera mini i found was somewhat buggy downloads on occasions and not being able to copy links. Also on forums where you click images to enlarge didnt work.
Opera mini might even save you on battery since it reduces how much you have to download.

Its in the market now, opera 4.2 beta! Still it isnt as good as 3g internet of g1.

Stock browser much better
why even release something that isn't as good as the browser that comes with the phone?
I had a samsung instinct (sprint) and the stock browser was so bad (along with every other feature of the phone, except voice searching... still waiting google!!!) that this opera mini would have made the instinct feel like you've switched from a 56k modem to cable.
for the G1 on the other hand, this app is about as useful as 2 @$$holes (I guess 2 would be very useful if you were a porn star ). Still no imbedded flash and slower than stock, what was the point opera? Embarresment? Is the full version going to be that much better? I mean compared to beta, can't be much worst.
I'm sure the newer pda/smartphone/ppc users will revel in a commercial company converting a dumbphone program for the G1 (which shouldn't be dumbphone program compatible!!), but if you've been around the block with these gadgets (I've been around since original tungstens) then you'll understand why I am ranting about the flood of useless apps.

i couldnt agree more santos alot of the market apps are pointless makes g1 and android which is so great look bad

opera mini is aimed at people with limited download allowance, or who dont have 3g. i wouldnt use it because 3g in my area is great and i have a 10gb allowance. so might as well use it.
i think the browser speed of the G1 is phenominal, its just a shame its not as smooth as on my iphone 3g - certainly i find it a lot less convenient for quickly googling things. im hoping the Cupcake update will see me move away from the iPhone entirely but i feel im drifting off topic a little here...
anyway - for those that need it Opera Mini is the app they dream of; for those that dont it is a pointless application.
And to those who install it to save their batteries, well maybe you should think about whether this device is really for you.

Ssantos6981 said:
why even release something that isn't as good as the browser that comes with the phone?
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You said it all in one question. I agree.

New Mozilla for WM

anyone else tried the new fennec mobile browser from mozilla? Just gave it a shot today. still an alpha release, i believe. could turn out to be a decent browser, but still a little jerky gui, but it seems to navigate to new sites quick enough.
Here is the post with the cab.

zacnotes said:
anyone else tried the new fennec mobile browser from mozilla? Just gave it a shot today. still an alpha release, i believe. could turn out to be a decent browser, but still a little jerky gui, but it seems to navigate to new sites quick enough.
Here is the post with the cab.
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Unfortunately your phone only has 64Mb of RAM. We’re targeting phones with 128Mb or more for the best experience.
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WTF. I love Firefox on my desktops, but I doubt I'm ever going to use it Mobile.

I tried it the other day, I think it sucks.
I do uses FF on my PC though.

[Q] Chrome vs Opera

im just curious as to which browser you guys run and which ones you guys think run faster on past experiences. i use chrome as my daily driver but have been curious as to what might run faster. I would just download opera and try it but im at school and cannot run .exe files. thanks!

Kevin001111 said:
im just curious as to which browser you guys run and which ones you guys think run faster on past experiences. i use chrome as my daily driver but have been curious as to what might run faster. I would just download opera and try it but im at school and cannot run .exe files. thanks!
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Firefox is the best.
Rapid.
Has Ad-Free.
Better than Chrome/Opera.

Of the two, I prefer Chrome. Opera has some nice features, but seems to get sluggish after a while (in my experience). Chrome is fast, lightweight, and has some nice extensions to customize to your liking. You should also consider the newest version of Firefox. I've been using that for a couple weeks and the speed improvement is nice.

Quinn1513 said:
Of the two, I prefer Chrome. Opera has some nice features, but seems to get sluggish after a while (in my experience). Chrome is fast, lightweight, and has some nice extensions to customize to your liking. You should also consider the newest version of Firefox. I've been using that for a couple weeks and the speed improvement is nice.
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+1 on firefox...
I'd really wanna know which browser will run well on a Pentium 4 PC with 512MB RAM. On Windows XP. So far FF is beating Chrome with a slight edge.

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firefox the best!

I stay with Chrome.

Chrome all the way! I hate Firefox. Here's Lifehackers' browser speed test btw: Clicky<--

I don't like Firefox's new update and I tested it out, not for me. I prefer Chrome, it's simple and I just like simple.

PERSIMMONS said:
I don't like Firefox's new update and I tested it out, not for me. I prefer Chrome, it's simple and I just like simple.
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This.
For the longest time, I was a diehard Firefox user.
Since they updated to 4, that ish is laggy as hell for me. I couldn't stand it.
So now I'm using Chrome.
Much better, in my opinion!

boothten said:
This.
For the longest time, I was a diehard Firefox user.
Since they updated to 4, that ish is laggy as hell for me. I couldn't stand it.
So now I'm using Chrome.
Much better, in my opinion!
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I thought it was only me who was having the laggy issues. Glad to see I'm not the only one. But, glad to see you're enjoying Chrome

I'm still using the old version of firefox. Haven't tried the opera browser.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Chrome rocks but the new IE9 is also right up there...

PERSIMMONS said:
I thought it was only me who was having the laggy issues. Glad to see I'm not the only one. But, glad to see you're enjoying Chrome
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It was awful!
Loading times for pages used to be really quick. Then, when I updated, it got pretty bad at times. I'd have to restart Firefox sometimes.
I'd never had that problem, and have really fast internet, so I didn't understand what it was.
No problems whatsoever on Chrome though!

my browser
I'm using firefox 4.It's amazing
Royal Wedding Mysteries

DanWilson said:
Firefox is the best.
Rapid.
Has Ad-Free.
Better than Chrome/Opera.
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Chrome is the best. End of.
Smaller, lighter, faster, more user friendly.

Chrome and mozzila are great

flyboyovyick said:
Chrome is the best. End of.
Smaller, lighter, faster, more user friendly.
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This. Opera is too buggy for me

I am a diehard fan of Chrome. Not only do I run it on my Acer Netbook, but on my CR-48. I love how no matter what machine I use it all syncs up automagically.
Sparky WAS in the doghouse. Now, He's allowed on the deck at least.
My Nexus S is annoying me.

chrome!
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chrome is for noobs who wanna be cool by using somthing "trendy" and different ..
get outta here ya yuppies , who you tryna fool , real men use latest firefox pre alpha nightly builds

Official Android 4.2 discussion thread(yes it's still called Jellybean)

Now we now with the arrival of the Nexus 4 also comes the newest android version, 4.2. Lets take a look at some of the key aspects/improvements google has made.
Here is a list of changes:
Main features:
Sphere camera
Multiple user profiles
Google Now updated
Quick settings
Gesture typing
Wireless TV Integration
Lockscreen widgets
Daydream screensaver
Pinch to zoom in Gmail
Triple tap to zoom the whole homescreen
Speech output
Gesture mode navigation
Credit to Prawesome here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962397
We know the specs of the phone itself but here are some more links with more information regarding Android 4.2:
http://m.gsmarena.com/android_42_is_out_google_keeps_the_jelly_bean_name-news-5016.php
http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-bumps-android-to-4-2-keeps-jelly-bean-moniker/
About the improved camera features:http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/29/android-photo-sphere-panorama-google/?icid=m_eng_latest_art

System/app Dump?
Has anyone a copy of the 4.2 system apps? I would love to install some like the new keyboard, and I'm sure many others would love it too!

Quick Settings = FINALLY.
This is the one thing I could never live without from AOKP. I might actually not even need a custom ROM this time. I really like their implementation of it too.

I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better

man i was looking forward to the "project roadrunner" :/ sounded like an awesome idea/concept. still I'm happy with 4.2
loving the multi user and photo sphere(take that apple!)

Michealtbh said:
I'm looking forward to the Swype like keyboard. I really like Swype, let's see if Google can do better
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I wouldn't be able to live my life without Swype. It makes me wonder how I went through life typing one letter at a time But seriously, I really hope it performs better than Swype.
@knolly I'm in the exact same boat as you. I've always wanted that on a phone's stock ROM. After playing around with custom ROMs on my S2, I'm ready to just jump on a Nexus and stay on whatever Google decides to churn out right then and there instead of having to wait for custom ROMs to come just to avoid the poop that Samsung/AT&T likes to put on the builds.

Looks great, it looks like its consolidating jelly bean with all the features a big OS update needs
I wish for something like the leeks said where you could remove the OEM overlay (sense, touchwiz)

Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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raydm said:
Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.

Prawesome said:
Chrome IS the default browser.All future updates for android will have Chrome as its default browser.
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Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices

any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash

raydm said:
Its there going to be update on Android browser.seems like they are only doing it with crook chrome
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I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.

bozzykid said:
I doubt the "stock" browser will even be included in the build. I believe the only reason they kept it around on the Galaxy Nexus is because it shipped with it and they didn't want to deal with people losing their browser.
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To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.

jonesin said:
To be honest im not really thrilled about this. Chrome seams a little prmature to me. A lot of neat features sure but I regularly experience much better peformance on on the old stock android browser in actual browsing experience. Sure some benchmarks say its better but real world performance has been anything but. Just my 2cents.
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It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.

ctfrommn said:
It totally depends on the hardware it is running on. I can barely use Chrome (and dont) because of my limited hardware. A phone with 2gb ram and a quad core should make for a very buttery experience.
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I've got an overclocked G'nex on JB, 1.35 ghz dual core omap 4410? I would think that should do the trick but no...

You're the first I've ever heard say that about a galaxy nexus.
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It's not to any extent unusable or "slow" but my native browser just rips! Idk maybe its psychological... the biggest place that ive noticed it is not in page renders but in actual usability of the page. What I mean is that they seam to render in about the same time=fast but on chrome I'm unable to selct links and there is usually some delay before I can scroll around or zoom where as on the native browser I can be halfway through a page load and already selcting another link...

eep2378 said:
Lets hope it runs better on Nexus devices. It can be horrid on other devices
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Yep...Chrome isn't nearly as fast as it was on PC..
Controversies,controversies everywhere :what:

I mostly prefer the stock browser myself, still use flash quite a bit (though i guess that it will probably be somewhat if not entirely broken on 4.2/Nexus 4).
But for other tasks i've preferred Chrome, especially with the syncing of pages and the fact it seems to handle pages much better than the stock browser did, especially in regards to forum attachements, download sites, etc.

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any news on when source will be submitted to the repos, I'm sure we'll all have to wait till the release the devices in a few weeks but It would be nice if we got a system image or something for our faithful devs to hack and slash
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I am guessing the source will be released the same day as the phone ships. That's how it has worked in the past, isn't it ?
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