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Just found the following article on the register - looks quite nice!!
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/28/htc_launches_tytn_2/
Cheers
Darren
Dammit all to hell, you beat me...
Yes I want one and my contract is due for renewal in 3 months... yeah baby.
More info here
http://www.europe.htc.com/htctytn2.html
Looks very nice...
Well
Its the kaiser, isn't it?
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Its the kaiser, isn't it?
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Yes, of course.
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Starfury said:
Dammit all to hell, you beat me...
Yes I want one and my contract is due for renewal in 3 months... yeah baby.
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Allot of you might not know this but they can upgrade you well before your contract is up. I am getting the kaiser cough cough I mean tilt cough cough I mean 8925 LOL hopefully when it hits the shelves maybe even sooner but it definitely looks like it brings allot to the table.
Is this phone thinner than the TyTn 1?
That would be the only thing that would make me even consider changing.
Think it's marginally thinner. Only by a few mm.
k-c
has anyone else noticed that the Sliding keyboard opens the other way than the Hermes??? the D pad is on the left, rather than the right! personally that will take me some getting used to playing Snes will be awkward to begin with! it makes the device look weird as its on the other side
Old news...
Seen it already.
Gears has had the review up for a week or so now.
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article727.html
Bloomin' nice piece of kit though...
Or have a look-see direct... http://tytnseries.htc.com/
Most importantly, what nice apps might trickle over to our Tytn 1... ;-) Isn't this baby supposed to have touchflo, business card scanner etc....
looks like its a bit more advanced than Announced..
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_TYTN_II.html
who's got a spare 500quid to buy one
Wondering how the battery life will hold up...
Does anyone have any additional info on the battery life? Seems like it will take a beating with GPS and everything else running...
That being said...I can't wait to get my hands on one
Cheers,
GilesTheAlmighty said:
has anyone else noticed that the Sliding keyboard opens the other way than the Hermes??? the D pad is on the left, rather than the right! personally that will take me some getting used to playing Snes will be awkward to begin with! it makes the device look weird as its on the other side
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I cant find a decent SNES emu for the hermes.. and also, how are u playing it using the touch screen?
i have PocketSNES 1.12.200 and it runs well, and i use the hardware buttons; Email for jump, Dpad for move ... my point in my post was that i have the DPad on the Right, whereas onthe Kaiser the Dpad is on the Left
I have a good friend that works at an att store and he told me that he actually got a chance to play with it in his meeting with the htc reps. He said it felt pretty solid physical, and software wise! He also said it could be out as soon as sometime sept and the only thing that htc will be dismissing in this unit is the IR! but who uses that anyways right lol! Oh yeah and he also said the unit he played with also had the front cam, so its quit possible att might be intorducing video calling for this unit!
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I have a good friend that works at an att store and he told me that he actually got a chance to play with it in his meeting with the htc reps. He said it felt pretty solid physical, and software wise! He also said it could be out as soon as sometime sept and the only thing that htc will be dismissing in this unit is the IR! but who uses that anyways right lol!
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Get your friend to dump that rom and get it to our talented chefs...
Trust me, it would be a waste even if he had that kinda access to the the phone, I'm the one that hip him to the 8525's, for a min he thought blackberry's and the iphone was the ****, plus hes has no idea about rom dumping, I tried to introduce him to this site and got all confused with the info lol! sorry!
Looks great, but the GPS, camera and tilting screen isn't enough to get me to upgrade just yet. I'll wait till the TyTN III
dang I didn't realize the GBP to Dollar ratio till I saw some of the european pre-order cheapness....then converted it to USD
Hi there all, this is my first post and after a quick search (and please be aware that I suck at the search) I couldnt find any thoughts regarding if one version is better than the other... I am in china at the moment and my l7 is going tits up so I will be replacing it in about 12 hours and I want to get the TYTN II and have been offered the tmobile vario III as well... is there any major difference here or is one version as good as the other? thanks in advance for any help...
It's the same phone.. one just branded by t-mobile.
ok thats cool thanks for the heads up...
Only differnce is the casing is slightly different, the tmobile one looks slightly better
No it doesn't
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Only differnce is the casing is slightly different, the tmobile one looks slightly better
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I disagree T-mobile one looks fugly..only thing thats better about it is that its cheaper lol.
~T-mobile one looks cheap. Vodafone is nicer .HTC is the best !
the tmobile branded kaiser is god awful ugly. wtf is wrong with tmobile. they completely **** up every phone they touch. looks wise anyway
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the tmobile branded kaiser is god awful ugly. wtf is wrong with tmobile. they completely **** up every phone they touch. looks wise anyway
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Well at least the Vario III isn't half pink like my Vario I was! (which is also the reason I got a HTC version this time around )
Thanks for all the replies... Glad to know its just cosmetic and the functionality is still the same... I also prefer the HTC looks to the Tmobile... many thanks to all and off I got to get a new phone... woo hooooo....
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Well at least the Vario III isn't half pink like my Vario I was! (which is also the reason I got a HTC version this time around )
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Smart move. I would have picked up a Kaiser also but ****.. 400 for a tilt - 800 for a kaiser.. HMMM. Front VGA Cam.. whoopti doo. it isnt worth 400 bucks lol
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Smart move. I would have picked up a Kaiser also but ****.. 400 for a tilt - 800 for a kaiser.. HMMM. Front VGA Cam.. whoopti doo. it isnt worth 400 bucks lol
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Haha I can understand that I've been a very long time customer with T-Mobile and the store I got it both, so I got a really sweet deal, and in such a way it is complete tax-deductable so in the end I really didn't pay anything at all.
For once, I have been able to do something like that If the difference was $400 I am sure I would've gotten a branded one as well! Though do note that at the time I got it, the T-Mobile branded version wasn't out yet, so I didn't yet know if was half pink or not - which it is now clear it isn't.
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Smart move. I would have picked up a Kaiser also but ****.. 400 for a tilt - 800 for a kaiser.. HMMM. Front VGA Cam.. whoopti doo. it isnt worth 400 bucks lol
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Exactly, difference is just the price and for the tilt the front cam.
I ended up choosing between €229 for vario 3 of €549 for a unbranded HTC.
And the sneaky part was, the HTC had to be ordered, and the vario 3 was on stock in the store easy choice.. it isn't to bad after sugarcubing the T-Mobile logo.
Ok I have now just picked up my tmobile tytn/vario III/kaiser (depending on who you talk to)... they didnt have any HTC style phones at all where I am at and I went to a few mobile markets to look... so far really really really happy with my new toy... dammit I mean important piece of learning equipment (which is what I tell the wife )... I have just started playing with it and will now change the language to english before attempting any thing else... cheers all for the help...
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Ok I have now just picked up my tmobile tytn/vario III/kaiser (depending on who you talk to)... they didnt have any HTC style phones at all where I am at and I went to a few mobile markets to look... so far really really really happy with my new toy... dammit I mean important piece of learning equipment (which is what I tell the wife )... I have just started playing with it and will now change the language to english before attempting any thing else... cheers all for the help...
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Congrats on your purchase man. Stay tuned for a driver update to unleash the true power of this beast!
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Congrats on your purchase man. Stay tuned for a driver update to unleash the true power of this beast!
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Thank you kindly good sir... I will indeed.. I have to say that this site is pretty damn awesome but oh man the reading I am having to do is a bit overwhelming... so much to learn...
Shadowdh said:
Thank you kindly good sir... I will indeed.. I have to say that this site is pretty damn awesome but oh man the reading I am having to do is a bit overwhelming... so much to learn...
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You'll get used to things here pretty quickly. When I first registered, I was kinda overwhelmed as well but the people here at XDA are awesome and majority of the time they kindly help.
I got to the point where when I wake up, I check the Kaiser forum and the Kaiser Upgrading forum. A couple hours later I check again. Before I knew it, I was addicted to this site!
LOL... yeah I can see how that happens... I have been on here for about 7 hours so far just reading and trying to figure it all out... just did the hardspl thing and now to figure out how to get it to display english as well as Chinese which I gather cant be done unless you use some third party programs like CE Star or Monster Chinese etc... well getting english would be good for now...
just in case this hasnt been mentioned - i got rid of the tmobile branding on my uk mda vario III with a coin. very very simple, 2 mins work, just rubs off and hasnt left a single mark at all.
makes the phone look a million times nicer
dont be worried to do it uk users!
I am pretty ok with the tmobile branding... especially now that I have used it for a bit and seen what it can do... can you marry a phone...?
I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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If you can't upgrade until May then you'll get little joy out of Orange I'm afraid. You have to be in the last three months of your contract before they'll let you upgrade. However, saying that you've got nothing to lose by calling them and you may be able to get a deal if you change your package to a more expensive one.
Cal them first before going the eBay route - as I said you've got nothing to lose.
Is it worth it? Hell, yeah! I was torn between the Diamond and waiting for the Pro, but impatience got the better of me and I plumped for the Diamond.
Even though I've only had it a day I can definitely say that it is fantastic! It's up to you if you want to wait for the Pro. I've come from a TyTN II myself and I sat back and really thought about it before going for the Diamond, and basically asked myself two questions:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
2. How much free space did I have on my 4Gb SD card? 2.5Gb, so for me having 4Gb of non-upgradable storage wasn't an issue.
The final thing that swung it for me was the size of the thing. It's good to have a PDA that's "phone sized", rather than being a huge brick.
Thats a good idea Have a word with Orange and twist there arms, see what you can do. I think my missus is due an Upgrade in August and im sure she will go for the Diamond (but as shes skint, I think shes gonna put it on eBay!!!!!!!)
I love my diamond and have used phones with hardware keyboards and like the post above says, how often do you really use it?
Software professionals and IT gurus would probably miss it as im sure using a hardware keyboard and using the Remote Desktop software is a great combination, but the VGA screen is excellent on the Diamond, its the best phone ive ever owned (and ive had quite a few...see my signature!)
Diamond = Thumbs up. Theres sooo much software and tweaks out at the moment with more software coming out just around the corner!
The futures bright, the futures...errr...Diamond? hehe!
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1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
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Wow, how did you cope without the keypad? I think I probably use it 10-20 times a day and this is the main reason I'm holding back on upgrading I guess.
It looks a fantastic piece of kit... but I don't think I'd like using an onscreen keyboard
How long have you been with Orange?
If it's over a couple of years remind them how much money they have had off you and if that doesn't work tell them you will consider cancelling the contract. Generally they want to keep customers so will eventually give in.
Also, it's always good to ask to speak to their line manager if they can't help.
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My kaiser is boring me recently.
My friend got a brand new iphone 3g, and it's pretty slick and way better than the original iphones.
I kinda want one, but it lacks many features.
What phone is think and cool like the iphone, with a big screen, for USA and able to be used on AT&T?
It doesn't have to have a keyboard either.
Just something pretty cool
Lol, get lost stuff.
This kind of case don't need a new thread.
Go buy iPhone and don't come here back ever again.
D-bag
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Go buy iPhone and don't come here back ever again.
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haha what a douche. You're going to have a hard time finding something at teh moment that's better than the tilt though. There's the iPhone 3g, but I think the plans are more $$ (dunno cause I'm on Tmo USA)
You could go with something like the touch cruise. I think that has a flush screen and no qwerty, but will feel just like the tilt otherwise. What about spending the big bucks and getting a diamond? I played with eth sprint version and thought it was pretty cool.
Best bet is to probably wait until the touch pro is available on ATT, or wait and see if any android phones come out of the woodwork.
I also want to throw a shout out for a Nokia N95-3. Decent size screen, but not huge. Can do much of what the tilt does, some better some worse. One plus/minus, depending on how you see it (wow people on XDA can have different opinions?? What a novel concept) is that it looks just like a normal phone.
Aww Stuff, I never expected you to post the weekly I'm done with Kaiser thread.
I'll give you my standard reply,
"Don't Go Away Mad, Just Go Away "
Thread Closed pursuant with the Guidelines set forth in the Kaiser Section Announcement and the Forum Policies.
Ive been considering getting an android phone for quite a while so im thinking of the g1 becuase it is cheap and it has a keyboard, what are your guys thoughts, i have a fuze right now.
Don't buy a g1. I've had this phone since november 2008 and I can't wait to get rid of it. You should spend the money and get a better android phone, such as the droid, nexus, or wait for the htc desire. You will definitely have a better android experience with one of these phones. Its just to much hacking you have to do to make a G1 good.
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Ive been considering getting an android phone for quite a while so im thinking of the g1 becuase it is cheap and it has a keyboard, what are your guys thoughts, i have a fuze right now.
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You'll feel sorry when you buy it....Wait for a "newer" phone from this decade to come out with a keyboard instead..
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You'll feel sorry when you buy it....Wait for a "newer" phone from this decade to come out with a keyboard instead..
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And not made by Motorola
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And not made by Motorola
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well i was thinking of getting the g1 because it is cheap and u can put roms on it, but i might get the moto cliq also cuz its cheap but u cant put roms on it, either way im gonna use 1 of these phones for a few months till i get a better android mobile device.
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well i was thinking of getting the g1 because it is cheap and u can put roms on it, but i might get the moto cliq also cuz its cheap but u cant put roms on it, either way im gonna use 1 of these phones for a few months till i get a better android mobile device.
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Why not save money... :|
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but i might get the moto cliq also cuz its cheap but u cant put roms on it, either way im gonna use 1 of these phones for a few months till i get a better android mobile device.
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Yeah I would stay away from the Cliq. There are roms for it, but there isn't as much development for it as there is for the G1. You'll find it to be quite boring and it's stuck on 1.5. If it's a choice between the two, get the G1.
Lol... Its pretty funny how everyone is saying the G1 is bad and don't buy it. Give it a month, there will be something then the N1 and everyone's going to say, "Don't buy the N1 its such garbage." G1 is a good phone. It won't take you to the moon, but it's not bad. =] I personally have the myTouch. I honestly wish I would have got G1 for keyboard, though. That's another reason I hate the N1... Yea, it's sexy... but touch screen keyboards have proved to be nothing but trouble for me. Besides misclicking (which you get better at) they usually lag. Sometimes slightly - sometimes horribly. They're NEVER as fast as a physical keyboard, though. They also prove to be trouble for games or things that use a keyboard. Most have full touch screen support, but I personally like to use a keyboard to play a game if it's an option. That's just my opinion.
I bought one off eBay for under $200 and I love it. I don't see how any other phone is better than it right now. It was a five row keyboard, trackball, and with all the custom roms available, it fits every niche that I want.
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I bought one off eBay for under $200 and I love it. I don't see how any other phone is better than it right now. It was a five row keyboard, trackball, and with all the custom roms available, it fits every niche that I want.
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http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/12/09/nokia-6700-classic-gold-edition-looms-into-view/
Beat THAT!
HTC DREAM (people... please call it what it actually IS and not what it has been DE-branded to...) is a very flexible device. Perfectly capable of running the latest builds of android.
The problem that some people are having is that the manufacturer (HTC) has decided to stop supporting it. This is no different than what will happen with the GN1 or other android phones made by HTC.
And the main thing to keep in mind is that this is a PHONE, not a supercomputer. Does it REALLY NEED to be the latest super-duper over powered crazy thing? NO. It really doesn't.
DREAM is very well known, and hacked up the wahzoo. There is virtually nothing that you can't make it do. Right down to being jtag-able.
Fact is simple; if you want maximum flexibility in your phone (more important than peak performance), DREAM is the ticket.
Cool guys, thx for the advice i defintley think i am going to purchase 1 off ebay, but im thinking if i should get the brown/black or the white, i saw the white can get a few nicks on in but it looks nice, what do u guys have?
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Cool guys, thx for the advice i defintley think i am going to purchase 1 off ebay, but im thinking if i should get the brown/black or the white, i saw the white can get a few nicks on in but it looks nice, what do u guys have?
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ADP1: dark grey with cool graphics.
http://android.brightstarcorp.com/index_adp1.htm
ranhdrcewp said:
I bought one off eBay for under $200 and I love it. I don't see how any other phone is better than it right now. It was a five row keyboard, trackball, and with all the custom roms available, it fits every niche that I want.
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i know its a gr8 phone!
It's a fair buy
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Ive been considering getting an android phone for quite a while so im thinking of the g1 becuase it is cheap and it has a keyboard, what are your guys thoughts, i have a fuze right now.
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I would say overall that I am very happy with this phone.
Especially with the hacks and mods that I've done to it.
Its fast, stable and looks great.
I am more than happy with this phone, (Especially since I traded a Sidekick LX for it) I haven't been this happy with a phone in a while.
I used to have the HTC Excalibur and coming from Windows Mobile to Android is phenomenal, everything is so simple once you learn and get the hang of it.
So if you have the cash and you are curious just buy it and learn the basics!
Well worth it!
What attracted to me about this phone is that it is able to use the keyboard( hard keyboard is obviously easier to use) to type and gaming. Moreover, the phone is able to be modded and a variety of ROMs that might suit your style to choose from.
I would actually want to buy a second HTC Dream if I could. Seriously, if you really want to utilise your PDA phone properly, the Dream can do it all for you. However, if you really want high end gaming and more sensitive touch screen & proximity sensors to show off, then it's better to get the latest phone. I find that as it is, I am utilising only 50% of what the Dream is capable of. So I have been using it since last year and will continue on until I cannot do certain things that are important for work. Just my 2cents.
Coming from all different kinds of OS's, Sony, WM for many years, and finally the awesome Android OS.
Its hard to compete against it. I like the idea of a quality physical keyboard and screen. There is so much development and quality Rom releases here for our phone.
Devs know this and that is why they stay and keep doing what they do so well for all of us. Themers as well deserve much respect for their hard work and commitment.
Bottom Line: Buy a G1, you'll be hard pressed to find a better android phone at this time.