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can anyone point my in the right direction and if there is a solution?
i have found a few errors with the tomtom map's(uk), and i was wondering if anyone knows if there is a updated map!
Hi
Tomtom only release new maps with a version upgrade (at wich point the old maps no longer work). what version are you running at the moment.
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The Pilgrim
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thanks for the reply,
i am not sure what version i am running, how do i found out?
i only brought my tomtom a week or so ago
also, since i posted last, i have found more errors, and that's all in a small area of about 25 miles radias of where i live!
what's it gonna be like over the whole country?
I gues coverage of the UK isnt that reliable.
Personally I havent see important errors in NL, D, CH and I (of course I did not check every road). Major Roads of Europe seems to be OK too, but as much roads are missing you have to watch out more.
I suppose you use TomTom3 which has the most recent maps available for TomTom.
Map errors can be sent via the TomTom website to Teleatlas (the map supplier)
There are many errors in tomtom, the company rely on users to report mistakes to them so these can be rectified in future releases. I think there will always be errors in a program such as this because it is a mammoth task to compile all data correctly, assuming several stages of development, there are many errors that can arise in the entry of data. I think that despite the errors it is an incredible program when you take into account the very small amount of memory and the constraints of the cpu speeds and pocket pc operating system. It has saved me many hours of frustration and stress even in central London where the opportunities to take the wrong road are numerous. If anything better exists I would like to hear about it.
I think we need to distinguish between errors in the program (to be adressed by TomTom) and errors in the mapping (to be adressed by Teleatlas).
I found two anoying issues with TomTom:
- Bluetooth usage (with rom 1.72), see other threads. I logged a questions on that.
- auto re-calc directs you to earlier route too long
i guess i am using tomtom 3, yes the errors are i suppose, minor! and i was just wondering, as i am new to the whole tomtom/gps if there was a new verison or updated maps! (but in general its has been a great help to my driving life!)
i also read some where that there is a add on that picks up accidents etc, would you guys know where i can find this!
yes the software seems ok!
my issue is with the map's! i can be in a town, and it tells me that i am in a completly different county, but in the correct town that i am in etc
There is a town i visit quite often and its listed as the town near by and not the one i want. "you get what i mean, yes?"
Can you say which town/city you are referring to please. When I travel on the Cirencester road from junction 11a M5, I am told to turn left into the embankment surrounding the A road, on return it tells me to go right across the carriageway and into the same embankment/field, you have no choice but to ignore, it then tells me to turn around when possible but after ignoring this it gets back to normality.
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i also read some where that there is a add on that picks up accidents etc, would you guys know where i can find this!
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this is called tomtom traffic. its a subcription service £32 P/A that downloads traffic information via gprs and displays incidents on your route.
you need to log in at the TT website and download the add-on there. i think you get 1 month free then you have to subscribe.
I must say the feature is by no means perfect. It does miss problems and report delays when there arn't any. i use it in conjunction with Radio traffic broadcasts and then make a judgement.
Regards
The Pilgrim
(the_pilgrim) thanks mate!!
(cruisin-thru) the town i am on about is baldock in hertfordshire,
it has baldock train station, but does know baldock town, its saying that it is letchworth, which is right next to baldock!
The way tomtom uses towns and placenames etc. is all to ****. The easiest way to navigate somewhere is via the postcode; but Tomtoms post code search is only 5 digits eg. DE72 3 this is also crap.
If you use this little gem its soooooo easy www.digitools.co.uk
this postcode program takes the whole postcode. This is usually about 20 houses (Possibly larger area in rural areas)
i would recommend installing Checkpoint before installing the postcode progam as this eases the instalation.
Checkpoint is a POI detector and can be downloaded here
http://checkpoint.oabsoftware.nl/
it will alert you when you are a approaching a selectable POI.
If you use the speed camera database from here
www.pocketgps.co.uk/uksafetycameras.php
you can receive camera warnings as you aproach them
The best part about these programs is they are all FREE
Regards
The Pilgrim
Maps
There are basically only two suppliers of GPS maps in the UK and Europe. And they update the maps every few months or so.
The GPS software retailers, like Tom Tom license at a certain point, and freeze, allowing them to make chargeable upgrades.
As Tom Tom charged about £30 for the last update - from 2 to 3 (including the full maps of Europe I had also purchased, at no extra cost) I didn't feel to badly off.
There is an area on the Tom Tom web site to notify map defects. But don't expect them to be fixed quickly.
Tom Tom does have some issues with the way it stores place names, where there are more than one name the same, it can mix them up. It must stores towns and places in separate tables and look up values as required. I live near Shirley in the West Midlands and Tom Tom displays it at Shirley, Southampton. But it knows where to send me home!
urrr! which one do i need, i am waiting for my xda2 to arrive, so which 1 do i need??
i have tomtom 3 too. and i think the xda has pocket pc 2003 on it, am i right????
CheckPOInt - [Instructions]
GPS Assist (Pocket PC 2002 Only) - [Instructions]
POI-Warner - [Instructions]
Navigator 2
CheckPOInt - [Instructions]
GPS Assist (Pocket PC 2002 Only) - [Instructions]
POI-Warner - [Instructions]
CityMaps
Not Currently Supported
RoutePlanner
Not Currently Supported
go with checkpoint its free :wink:
The Pilgrim
gtivinny said:
urrr! which one do i need, i am waiting for my xda2 to arrive, so which 1 do i need??
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I personnaly uses TomTom 3 + Check POInt 3.2 for all spedd cameras and other POI. it works great although I have found the setup of Check POI to be non intuitive (but will work if you follow their web site instructions).
Now if you want 99.5% accuacy with maps, you'll have to cross the channel and move to France. :lol: :lol: :lol:
The maps are amaizingly precise, which suggest it has something to do with the company from which TomTom buy the maps from.
Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!
That's interesting about moving the install folder... I haven't tried that. What I did do though was to uninstall Home 2.3 as I encountered the same problem and install Home Navigator 1.5. From there, you can just purchase maps of your choice. You need to link the device to a 'GO' device as they are the only models using version 7 software.
Hope this helps
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Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!
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Place the contents of "Intern Gegeugen" into My Device/Program Files/Navigator on the Diamond. Connect via Activeynch and finf TomTom Navigator.exe in the above folder. Right click, choose create shortcut and paste that shortcut in My Device/Windows/Start Menu/Programs and rename it accordingly.
And after that you can connect with tomtom home 2.3 (for PDA). First you choose your memory location, get an error, go back and your device is connect.
I've just given that a go and moved the install onto the internal storage. It all still seems to work ok. One question though, other than free up the main memory are there any advantages/disadvantages to running the app from internal storage? (i.e. does it run slower from internal storage etc)
I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.
I have tried the above, but still cannot purchase any maps. when I Click on the maps i just get the message 'No Items Available'
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I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.
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same for me! tomtom home recognices my device but can't really communicate with it.
i use the maps i get with me touchcruise/xda orbit2, they are version 6.75.
connected with tomtom home 1, device can get connect. i used the maps from cdrom and could install them. afterwards i activated the map on my device using my product code card, no problem :-D
Only TT home 1.5 is compatible with Navigator.
What I did was upgrade my TT6 maps to the latest then using TT home transfered the maps to the device and installed TT 7 after. works well
I changed TT6 into TT7 and I could use the same maps. All is working fine.
One question:
TT7 does not get a fix, when phone is not on. I found it today, when I use Tomtom in a car about 10 minutes. I stopped and turned phone on, so Navigator 7 got the fix easily.
I have not agps on.
In Artemis I did not find this kind of symtom with Navigator 6.
i have also tomtom 6 with maps from my o2xda2. i've installed the maps from cd over tomtom home 1.5. it installed successfully. but in tomtom 7 on my diamond i can't still use the maps.. they aren't listed in manage maps?! what do i wtong?!
please help
i don't know, i just installed tt7, not 6, then connected it with tomtom 1.5.
put the cd in and i was capable to install the maps.
yeah... i did the same! all fine! but when i start tomtom on diamond i can't change the maps. i only see the demo-map. you can?
yes, i can. i even never installed the demo map. you know that you have to choose/change map in order to see the right one?
yes i know... but there who i can change the map i see only bern (demo-city-map)!!!
Not being a SatNav user I did this
I am not really a big user of SatNav as I read the signs on the road.
However, I am a lover of toys and have always kept a copy of tomtom nearby for fun.
I installed the XDA linked TT7.cab file (11.9mb) and directed it to Internal Storage.
Then I went online and created myself a tomtom account. I went through the maps purchase wizard stating my device was a GO 720 model.
I then purchased the 7.2 Great Britain and NI Map. £29.95 - even by my standards a bargain.
I then downloaded Home 2.3 and connected my Diamond as a disk system.
When the Diamond came up it challenged me to select the location of my product and I chose Internal Storage. It then promptly through up an error message.
I did a back and continued. When I went to MAPS etc it didn't find my map. So I clicked on the Update Pocket PC icon and there was my map.
It didn't take long to download and install (161 MB ish) and now I have a working TT7 with the 7.2 map.
I could also update the Pocket PC with free voices and POI's too from the TomTom website (although I have forgotten the steps just now).
The advantage is that I have a working, reliable, sexy, copy of Tomtom 7.
The negative is that I don't seem to be able to use MAP share. This is not a big deal for me (as I never actually use Sat Nav anyway!). It didn't seem to matter once I had bought the map what I set the device to be - PDA or GO 720.
I hope that this is useful as a legitimate way of getting Tomtom 7 onto your Diamonds...and all for £29.95.
I have done this twice - once for me to play and once for the missus to actually use.
Not a bit of Warez anywhere - for 30 quid why bother with Warez?
All the best,
Sam.
I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
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sfere1 said:
I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
df
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No it's not a case of have they caught on. TomTom 7 the application on a PDA is not supported on TOMTOM Home 2.3. You need to use 1.5 . This is beacause at the moment only PNA devices are supported on 2.3
The Maps which you purchace to activate with your device to make the application work have not been released yet for PDA so you have to use backwardly compatible maps . 6.75 etc until you can purchase ver 7 maps
As for Warez the licenceing is with the maps only and not the application which is available to download from TomTom . If you was to load hacked Maps then this is WAREZ as the Licence is with the maps. You can only use your brought maps with one device and that is the device you purchaced it for. Hence you get the activation number from your device as it is device specific.
You cannot if you purchased maps already from a different device use them on another device . This is the License law and you need to purchase new maps every time you cahnge device . You can email TomTom support but they will tell you the same thing.
All maps are 30% cheaper at the moment, because they'll release the new version in the beginning of August.
The 30 price reduction is not for Navigator user as I found out last month.
As for only using the Maps for one device (true in a sense) though I managed to activate via TT home my maps twice on my Trintiy (as the Device ID changed once when I flashed an early ROM and activiate the same product code again for my Diamond - which is indicated on the TTcode website as three activations.
I have purchase new 6.75 maps for my Navigator 6 and know these will work on version 7 once on general release.
hey guys, i recently upgraded to tomtom7, however, i would like to also move all my favorites from tomtom6 without having to manually enter all of them. where would i find those on my memory card so i can transfer them? thanks
omar
Anyone?
This is something I've been trying to find how as its incredibly frustrating, I can't see anything in the original documentation or anything on how to do this.
Have you tried here, http://www.tomtom.com/support/support.php?ID=2&Language=4???????????????
This is XDA-Developers, not TomTom support. Geesh!
This is XDA-Developers, not TomTom support. Geesh!
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Correct, and unless I'm very mistaken many people discuss various 3rd party software applications, their merits and also tweaks/twiddles to make them work correctly on their Kaiser, etc.
Checking the software forum I see various other topics that you could apply the same logic to.
BTW; TomTom actually advise to manually re-enter the favourites between versions, which isn't a very good customer support reply in my opinion. I'm now following a path which shows the .cfg in the maps folder seems to be the key to migrating favourites over.
I just bought a fuze and was doing some searching on here but cant find an answer can someone post some links on install or purchase gps/nav software for the fuze like garmin, tomtom, igo and things like that i need a good gps program
GPS software
Definitely try before you buy.
I like and use iNav's iGuidance. There are versions for both the PC/UMPC and PDA. Its convenient to be able to run the same app on the PC (play routes and etc.)
You may need to use franson GPSgate (I'm not sure for the Fuze). I have an older Mugal and it's internal GPS has issues. GPSgate (a pay for app) allows your phone to be a Bluetooth GPS device, as well as record routes (even to the gpsgate.com).
thats great and all but where do i get these apps i dont mind paying for them.
also i was looking at standalone gps and noticed that some even tell you how fast your travling is there any thing out there like that
http://gpsinformation.org/dale/PocketPC/wince.htm
Outdated page but it gives you a wealth of info to get started on your quest for ppc gps programs. Alot of basic ones are freeware. The nicer ones are payware.
Myself I use Nav and Go (Igo) for my navigation software.
I use OCN8 (http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/). I really like it. The first place to look at GPS software is www.buygpsnow.com. They have most of th popular street navigation programs. If you want topographic navigation programs (off-road) I would look at Memory-Map Navigator (http://www.memory-map.com), OziExplorer (http://www.oziexplorer.com) and BackCountry Navigator (http://www.backcountrynavigator.com). There are other topographic programs available, but these are the three I like.
are there any programs that tell you how fast your travling in mph
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are there any programs that tell you how fast your travling in mph
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Most of them do, you just need to set it.
I use Igo 2006 on my PNA, its great!
Although im trying to get some gps app working on my HTC touch PRo....finding it rarther difficult!
Some things to pay attention to:
1) Navigation - detours, methods/options (fastest, shortest)
2) Alerts - speed, weather
3) Points of Interest - categories, how many, usefulness
4) Maps - span, updates, etc.
5) Update methodology - how often, cost, new features, patches, support
6) GPS compatible - NMEA, Garman
7) Compatibility - device, display, OS, routes files, maps
8) Trip computer - average speed, max. speed, time of arrival, etc.
Try the freebies, Microsoft's Live Search and Google Maps for Mobile, they provide maps and directions along with extra online services (gas prices, movies, etc.-).
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Try the freebies, Microsoft's Live Search and Google Maps for Mobile, they provide maps and directions along with extra online services (gas prices, movies, etc.-).
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And definitely check out amazegps.com: free, with moving maps and spoken turn-by-turn navigation assistance (which Live Search and Google Maps don't have).
All the programs I mentioned above will display your speed. You should really look at the screen captures for OCN8. I was never a fan of the 3D display. OCN6, the version before OCN8 changed that. It's 3D map display was excellent. In OCN8, they have made it even better. In OCN8, they added building for many larger cities and will show elevation changes on the map. I believe it is the first street navigation program to do that. It makes the 3D map display very realistic. ONC8 also has a trip computer. It will give average speed for the trip, average driving speed for the trip, total time for the trip, driving time and stopped time. OCN8 has also updated the menus to make them very finger friendly.
The other thing to figure out is which type of map a program uses. The two most common ones are TeleAtlas and Navteq, and also how recent they are.
I've found Navteq to be more complete in the US than TeleAtlas, atleast in my area.
Garmin PNA = Navteq
TomTom PNA = TeleAtlas
So if you've ever used the standalone GPS units, see which one has more complete maps in your area.
i have a quick question about google maps. when you set directions with gps, when you pass a checkpoint does it update to the next one? will it count down the distance to the next checkpoint, or turn?
I was looking at the onc8 and cant figure out what the difference between the 2gb 4gb and 8gb is.
OCN8 is based on iGO8 engine; actually is iGO8 rebranded for USA.
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I was looking at the onc8 and cant figure out what the difference between the 2gb 4gb and 8gb is.
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OCN8 is sold only on SD cards -- you can't move/copy it to a different card, so you have to use the one you bought. You pick the size of the card you want to buy it on, depending on how much additional space you want to have left over after the application and maps. I think the 2GB card has a couple of hundred MB left, so if you're planning to use the navigation program and have a lot of audio or video, too, you'd want to buy it on a 4 or 8GB card instead of the 2GB card.
(This, BTW, is a deal-breaker for me; I love what I've seen of OCN8 in reviews and such and would definitely buy it if I could put it on my own card, but I'm not going to pay them for the program AND a large card when I already have a card.)
does onc8 on the fuze move and look like the screenshots on there site or is it more chopy then that it seems to move very smothly
also does the fuze support the sdhc standard so i can get either the 4 or 8 gb card
Yes, the Fuze supports sdhc. I have the OCN 8 on the 8GB card and use it in my Fuze. The map runs very smoothly just like in the demos if you can get the Fuze GPS working. I could not get a fix with any program. I finally found this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457996. I did steps 1 an 2 in post 1. I then deleted the gps log file names as suggested in post 8 steps 5. 1. and 5. 2. I then completed steps 3, 4 and 5 in post 1. Now the GPS work great with OCN8, Memory-Map Navigator and GPS Test. I get a GPS lock in around a minute.
I thought OCN6 was good, but OCN8 has taken street navigation to the next level. There were several things missing in OCN6 like saving a route to name one, that OCN8 has fixed. OCN8 has all the bells and whistles. OCN4 and 5 had Navteq maps and OCN6 and 8 had/have TeleAtlas maps. I have heard the aurguments about which map datbase is better. To tell you the truth, I have seen no difference. I have also installed Memory-Map Navigator on the card. I have a little over 5 GB free.
sweet o guess onc8 it is then
Screen pin lock compatibility?
Of the applications listed, the only one that I am aware of that keeps the phone from locking is Live Search. If your IT org forces a pin lock after a given number of minutes, that can be a real problem when you're using your phone as a GPS device.
Does anyone know of a turn-by-turn program that works properly with pin lock?
Does NOT work:
google maps
at&t navigator
tom tom 6
I am looking for a GPS app for my Diamond - WM6.1 that does certain things and do not know which forum to ask for help. I noticed one thread that had quite a bit of information concerning GPS apps. I've tried a few that use bitmap maps and I can't tell from them that you can actually create a route with them. Ideally I would like to use the built in GPS capabilities of the Diamond but I do have a BT GPS receiver also if I need to fall back on it. I do not know how to set up the internal GPS to use with apps. I have Microsoft Street Atlas which supposedly allows you to create routes and maps on the desktop and sync them to the phone but I often have trouble with my syncing and you have to be by your pc in order to create a route that you don't have the map for. I also can't get it to create a route on the phone even if I have the map installed.
I guess I just want a self-contained app that I can install and not need to sync maps (especially bitmap maps) and that I can enter an address (preferably also latitude-longitude addresses) and it will create the route and guide me as I go. Since I have tried several apps that were unsuccessful (for what I wanted them to do) I am a bit leary about spending lots of money just on the hope that it might be what I am looking for.
The Navigational software that was pre-installed (GPS Nav from Bell Canada) works well for most cases but I haven't figured out yet how to add stops along the route and I can't enter latitude and longitude - for non-city places that have no street address.
Any suggestions I can get would be great
Look for Garmin solutions for PPC, www.garmin.com.
Software is free, but you must buy maps.
http://www8.garmin.com/solutions/handset/smartphones.jsp
I had a look at the Garmin site and finally found where to download the app. One question I have is can you enter multiple stops along your route or just a start and stop point?
Also, it says the app is pre-loaded on an sd card. The diamond does not accept SD cards so can it be copied from a pc and transferred to the Diamond? Also it says there are no maps available for North America for the Mobile XT. Am I doing something wrong or is that true. If they are not available for North America then its useless for me.
Do you have a data plan?
I find google maps works well for me, but it downloads the maps as you are going, so if you are charged for data this is no good.
I also have tomtom, this allows you to input longitude and latitude coordinates however the software is not cheap.
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Do you have a data plan?
I find google maps works well for me, but it downloads the maps as you are going, so if you are charged for data this is no good.
I also have tomtom, this allows you to input longitude and latitude coordinates however the software is not cheap.
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software is free, u can download TT7 from these forums. Its the map u have to pay for. u get 1 free map tho.
TomTom allows you to put in points along the route too.
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software is free, u can download TT7 from these forums. Its the map u have to pay for. u get 1 free map tho.
TomTom allows you to put in points along the route too.
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Where can I download TT7 from these forums? Also, would I get to choose which map is free?