ATT Device Service Centers vs Exchange By Mail - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

ok so i went to a DSC today to exchange my tilt. I stated it was stuck in that "funky colored screen" (bootloader in which i purposefully stuck it in) to get a replacement. The real reason i needed it was the plastic seperator between the pins of the usb port broke off along with the 2 left pins.. yah so i should have had it replaced when it first started having problems syncing and charging but i wiggled it over and over until it broke so dont get on me sayting its my fault thats not the point lol...the point is they told me that they didnt have any tilts in stock and pretty much just put in a request to have one mailed to me (exchange by mail) and i send mine in and since it has that usb problem ill mostlikely get charged the $450 but i can glue that plastic piece back in and cover up the damage..my question is..in the dsc they only checked the water voiding pad and they would have replaced it right then and there so is the policy the same with both services..the fee for physical/water damage? like would they have read me a disclaimer in the center and taken my phone and had it fully inspected? I was under the impression that they just eyeball it there and give it the ok like they did and youre good..so i signed the paper and should get the replacement in the mail monday...should i just send the phone they sent back to them or do the techs at the center for mail exchanges just eyeball it as well? am i taking a big chance at getting screwed? or should i just try again at another DSC location that has devices in stock after i send the replacement back?..just looking for input

pazookie said:
ok so i went to a DSC today to exchange my tilt. I stated it was stuck in that "funky colored screen" (bootloader in which i purposefully stuck it in) to get a replacement. The real reason i needed it was the plastic seperator between the pins of the usb port broke off along with the 2 left pins.. yah so i should have had it replaced when it first started having problems syncing and charging but i wiggled it over and over until it broke so dont get on me sayting its my fault thats not the point lol...the point is they told me that they didnt have any tilts in stock and pretty much just put in a request to have one mailed to me (exchange by mail) and i send mine in and since it has that usb problem ill mostlikely get charged the $450 but i can glue that plastic piece back in and cover up the damage..my question is..in the dsc they only checked the water voiding pad and they would have replaced it right then and there so is the policy the same with both services..the fee for physical/water damage? like would they have read me a disclaimer in the center and taken my phone and had it fully inspected? I was under the impression that they just eyeball it there and give it the ok like they did and youre good..so i signed the paper and should get the replacement in the mail monday...should i just send the phone they sent back to them or do the techs at the center for mail exchanges just eyeball it as well? am i taking a big chance at getting screwed? or should i just try again at another DSC location that has devices in stock after i send the replacement back?..just looking for input
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Here is a brilliant idea BE HONEST

Honesty may lose him $450 though (that is a lot of money for some of us).
Here's an idea, try using a return key every once in a while

did you miss where i said dont get on me about this? lol i just want input and facts

oh and i WAS honest over the phone before i put in a claim and went to the DSC and stated that HTC had changed the usb ports from pins to contacts but they have no such thing in their files nor reports of these usb ports having problems which as you can see all over this forum the first generation of usb ports on the kaiser SUCK hence the reason they were replaced..therefore it would be considered physical damage so im screwed for being honest even though its HTC's fault..

Ok, wanna know why i said be honest.
-return key- f.u.
I if you know my job postioin with AT&T you can take this info to be very truthfull. If they see ANY damage to the phone you WILL be billed. If the person from AT&T does not notice the damage, then when it gets sent back to HTC and they see damage, they will backcharge att. Then guess what? you get the charge. That is why i said be honest. I was not being a smart ass.
It used to be nobody really cared, but now you will get caught. In all seriousness i was looking out for you. But what the hell sent it back and test your luck.
But be honest and tell them it is a known problem and back up your case with printouts of the known broblem. I think you will be suprised how well they will accomodate you.

elypsar said:
Honesty may lose him $450 though (that is a lot of money for some of us).
Here's an idea, try using a return key every once in a while
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so should i bring it back to the dsc and explain to them or call the phone center. . and i wasnt trying to be a jerk. . you didnt have to say f.u. i appreciate your advice

ok well i called an explained myself and they said no matter what you have if the port is damaged its damaged and out of warranty...yay im screwed lol

The f.u. was not directed at you.
Call back and speak to a supervisor, I am aware of the problem and so are certain techs and warranty reps at att. Call and speak to a supervisor. if that gets you nothing than call cust care and complain.
warranty 800-801-1101
cust care 800-331-0500
even call data device support (THEY KNOW ABOUT IT)
dont have the number.

thnks alot for the help i really appreciate it...
yah i spoke with data device support, they transferred me to them..ive actually spoken to them in the past for this issue as it happened a while back and i just dealt with the no syncing but i had to finally go back to warranty exchange because i finally broke the top left pin (+5v i believe) from smashing it in with the usb plug as the plastic seperator isnt in place to protect the pins..
the warranty exchange always sends me to data device support. Well i think its the same place your talking about...they called them high end device technicians or something along those lines...

ok got shot down again lol...well i TRIED to get to a supervisor and explained my WHOLE shpeal 2 more times for a total of 5 times now...so tomorrow im going to try again and DEMAND to speak with a supervisor..
tonight i just thought maybe just maybe this tech would understand and know but she insisted that she checked all documentation and that this issue is NOT a known issue and referred me to htc to get a repaired or customer support to get a new handset lol so ill give it a go tomorrow..
i just really hate having to explain it all because its so complicated unless i can show them pictures of the differences in each usb port and try to help them comprehend that htc obviously changed the port for a reason...

ok so thanks to the advice of k8nds (honesty) worked and i dont know WHY i didnt think of it before...not really the honesty part lol but the calling att and talking to them..i had forgot that i had talked my way out of an early disconnection fee with my prior agreement. That is somehwat relevant but what im getting at is ATT is there for your customers...if you make yourself seem that important to them...theyl do anything for you like many on this board have attested too...so the elevated rep (after speaking to 5 techs) let me know they will note the usb issue and if there is a charge for the detection of it it will be credited back.. so HOPEFULLY the replacement i recieve tomorrow has the revised usb port..

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Calm yourself kid. My comment about using a return key wasn't even directed at you, it was directed at pazookie's first post.

pazookie said:
ok so thanks to the advice of k8nds (honesty) worked and i dont know WHY i didnt think of it before...not really the honesty part lol but the calling att and talking to them..i had forgot that i had talked my way out of an early disconnection fee with my prior agreement. That is somehwat relevant but what im getting at is ATT is there for your customers...if you make yourself seem that important to them...theyl do anything for you like many on this board have attested too...so the elevated rep (after speaking to 5 techs) let me know they will note the usb issue and if there is a charge for the detection of it it will be credited back.. so HOPEFULLY the replacement i recieve tomorrow has the revised usb port..
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Well im glad it worked out for you. And you did not have to lie!!!

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Tilt USB port damaged..

Frat.. My fully upgraded Tilt (Dutty Rom 6) got its USB port damaged while I accidentally poked the stylus in there instead of the reset hole.
...now it won't sync with my pc however does charge only when I plug in the dedicated wall charger into it. So, on visual inspection, I saw the 5 pins (thats how many they seem) with last two next to the reset hole "misaligned".
I've tried poking a needle and trying to straighten it back into place but didn't work and I gave up fearing further damage to the port.
basically, I called At&t and they are mailing me a replacement device but now I'm not sure if I would need to re-flash the original AT&T rom back before returning.... anyone have any experience in the returns field? The cust serv rep "read" me a disclaimer (felt like hearing my rights by a cop!) stating that if they find any liquid or other damage to the phone then I may be charged $497.00 for it as it would be considered as warranty voided.
So, no mention of any s/w changes in the disclaimer she read to me also resulting in the same. But I surely don't want to take a chance therefore am humbly asking for some input from someone who may have experience similar situation?!!
Reading the "Tilt re-flash due to not voiding warranty if having to return" sticky-thread's all 14 pages did not give me even a single post where anyone can confirm if at&t will indeed consider messing up with the s/w as voiding warranty.... unless ofcourse I'm blind..(has happened once in a while).
I've also searched on this and have not found any posts.. again, I'm mentioning this so that the mods and/or others won't burn me for not doing my homework.
Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Well.. I'm trying to avoid flashing the stock rom altogether. As I've noticed almost every 2nd post on the stock-rom-flashing-for-warranty sticky not having a smooth run while returning the phone to its original state.
besides.. what do you mean by "then wait and see if they void your warranty?"..
Thats exactly what I'm trying to avoid in the first place as once I mail the unit back I will have no control on the outcome unless ofcourse either someone confirms that not reverting back to the stock rom won't cause a $500 hole in my pocket or otherwise, in which case I'll have to re-flash it.
If you've flashed a different ROM then they will know and they will say you caused the damage and charge the full price for it.
they might charge you full price anyway because the usb port is damaged. it might just be easier to fix the port urself...
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
AWESOME!!
PsyOpWarlord said:
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
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Thanks a million for the site. I had no idea that a service like that existed and that too specifically addressing my exact issue. I'm gonna keep it bookmarked for future.
Fortunately, I was able to stick a needle in one of the pins and push them up and then have it held there with a dab of super glue. So far, its working like a charm but if it ever fails again I'll go the above route.
This is awesome.. I was very concerned in having to receive the replacement unit as with experience of having used several pda phones over the years I've learned that the refurb units that the warranty replacement give you is got a good 50-50 chance of having some kind of hw or sw flaw.. so... I'm glad to have kept my phone.
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Hi tjenus,
You mean you brought the faulty tilt, together with the original accessories it came with, to the store and they replaced your set for a brand new, retail version, of the tilt?
What else was required, the receipt or anything?
Thanks!
Gerald
tjenus said:
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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I call BS after being a AT-T customer for years I know for a fact they don't swap out phones even at corp... Stores they tell you to call in and have a warrenty replacment shipped to you. Thats just how it works UNLESS your withen the 14 day grace period then they would probably do it. The reason they do this according to AT-T is they don't have enough stock in each store to do swap outs. You best bet is to call AT-T and have them ship you a new one and flash abck to the origanl rom they don't check the SPL version what so ever they just look if it has water damage and any other visable signs of abuse.
I returned mine
I had this same thing happen. The USB failed to work after I dropped my phone. So seeing how I could not reflash it, I ran out all the power on it, until it had nothing....it would not even boot. With all the battery drained, I knew that even if they plugged it in, they would not see I had flashed the rom....though they could have used a new battery. I took it in, and told the local ATT reseller that the USB stopped working. It was within 30days of purchase. They took it back and exchanged it no questions asked. They didnt even test it. Now, i just wont drop my new one, lol.
Good luck.
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
Cheers
hah. did this too.. called at&t and had them warranty exchange it. i just bent it back around with the stylus enough that it would work so that could revert back so i could send it back. havent heard anything from them.. so im assuming there not gonna charge me
aquanaut88 said:
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
Cheers
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i own a tytn 2 in the usa and got the same from htc. my usb got messed up a little on its own than i stuck the stencil in there and it barely worked(had to wiggle it) anyways i found a repair center but they didnt have parts. ordered the parts from ppc techs and they sent me a different connector. its the same one in the sprint mogul which i think is a better build. so they replaced it and everything is perfect with the charging now but they did something with my hinge. its off a little. can anyone point me in the right direction to take my phone apart so i can fiddle with the hinge? any help is greatly appreciated
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
ramnan said:
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
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Not unless you are the original one that bought it from AT-T they will say sorry buddy !! you could try but I would save my breath
Hi
I had the same Issue - but it was fixed inside warranty!
But I was runing "original" rom.
But the somehow made the "reset" button work strange now - So it will go back once more.
BR
Daniel
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ATT Warranty Exchange experiences

Just wondering if anyone can share there experiences with the exchange program through att..like what HAVE you gotten away with and what HAVENT you gotten away with and got slapped with the $500 charge lol
I followed the the warranty return thing on this forum, and I got no problem. I had seriously scratched the screen of the phone. I told the manager before sending it to quote she said its "normal wear and tear." But my speaker of the phone was messed up. On that same phone the void button and some ddamage as I was playing with it, I didn't what it was, until I found out later that its to open up the phone.
So, I got away with two major linear scratches on the screen which made writing with the stylus impossible. And I had damaged the button. But I told the manager of this before I sent it in. Or the High_end PDA department.
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Just wondering if anyone can share there experiences with the exchange program through att..like what HAVE you gotten away with and what HAVENT you gotten away with and got slapped with the $500 charge lol
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what did they find wrong with the phone???
i just sent one they sent me, the first time, i put it into the boot loader and noticed that the SPL was HardSPL, it scared me a little and well the screen cracked while i was looking at it an hour later, the phone rang so i looked and the caller ID and suddenly there was a broken screen on my tilt. not sure if they are gonna say anything about hard SPL but it came that way.
(part of me hopes i was holding someones old phone from this site)
oh yeah and this probably shoudn't be in ROM developement, ask a mod to move it to general
oh im just wondering..i was reading a post about putting the old att spl back on for an exchange and someone replied about how theyve returned 6 tilts with major problems all of which should fall outisde of warranty so i just thought id ask as i have a slight problem myself but its not keeping my kaiser from working and i opened a ticket with HTC directly as they dont screw you if you fall outside of warranty...my usb charger was getting a full contact and i had to bend it up and down to get it to stay charging (shoulda just sent it in then lol) and finally the plastic seperator of the pins broke out and then i bent in a pin a few times and that broke off..so i opened it up and soldered it back in and it eventially popped off again so i was thinking i could just squeeze the plastic piece that broke off back in as it wont come out unless you use needle nose pliers and sliding that pin back in..
I did a warranty return not to long ago. Phone was stuck with the radio from hell 1.65.17.10 and didn't have the friendly FrankKaiser that Jockyw2001 developed. Never had an issue with AT&T saying that I had altered the phone in any way. I flashed back to the original shipped ROM. Change the SPL to 1.56 the original one that it came with. I then re-flashed the original shipped ROM. When the ROM flash completed at 50% I unplugged the phone. This way on the phone will only go to the bootloader.
I actually just did a warranty return again today. Had some scratches on the screen that were really bugging me. There weren't big but definitely a nuisance for me. Told them the phone was stuck on the bootloader, or as I put it in "in this three color screen with Red, green, white." They issued a warranty replacement right away.
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I did a warranty return not to long ago. Phone was stuck with the radio from hell 1.65.17.10 and didn't have the friendly FrankKaiser that Jockyw2001 developed. Never had an issue with AT&T saying that I had altered the phone in any way. I flashed back to the original shipped ROM. Change the SPL to 1.56 the original one that it came with. I then re-flashed the original shipped ROM. When the ROM flash completed at 50% I unplugged the phone. This way on the phone will only go to the bootloader.
I actually just did a warranty return again today. Had some scratches on the screen that were really bugging me. There weren't big but definitely a nuisance for me. Told them the phone was stuck on the bootloader, or as I put it in "in this three color screen with Red, green, white." They issued a warranty replacement right away.
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yeah cause we don't know about the magic we can do with the "pretty rainbow screen" come on ATW you let a few little scratches bug you. i'm still waiting for them to send me one that works, i've sent back three and i still have the original that i bought. two broken usb ports and a broken screen good job at&t for being incompetent
Has anybody done a warranty replacement and convinced them to send a new one and not a refurbed?
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Has anybody done a warranty replacement and convinced them to send a new one and not a refurbed?
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actually yes, well they say they will be sending it when the get the phones i just sent back. i talked to Christina and she told me that the phone they will send me next will be the tilt as it comes out of the box, including the software cd, usb cable, stylus, battery, and back cover. i will confirm when i recieve it but they tell me it will be brand new
Well, after I figured out my ROM issues. My phone had some problems with continuously soft resetting. I suspect a bad memory block. I made it clear through out my conversation with the rep that I took really good care of my phone and that I don't know how people can throw their 400 dollar phones around like they are nothing. I also made a point to say my battery seemed to be going bad and that I had done some research about Li-Po batteries going bad and that this seemed to be a classic case. I asked if there was anyway she could send a battery with the phone. (Just so you know, when you call warranty replacement, it seems to me they have two options, send a refurb, or send a full kit) So, she said she could send me a full kit and it is otw now. That is a good thing because my phone wont boot now. I think whether you get caught with a bootloader that is different than OEM kinda depends on who receives the phone on the other end. I'm sure they are SUPPOSED to check that, but I'm sure they can get away with not checking it, and I'm sure there is no incentive for checking it.
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yeah cause we don't know about the magic we can do with the "pretty rainbow screen" come on ATW you let a few little scratches bug you. i'm still waiting for them to send me one that works, i've sent back three and i still have the original that i bought. two broken usb ports and a broken screen good job at&t for being incompetent
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They could have said F.U., you broke it we are not resposible.
My phone got stuck in bootloader while doing a rom update.Called AT$T, they sent me through three techs, my answer to all there suggestions were " did it ", " did it ".
Three days later, they sent me a refurb ( in perfect condition ), in the box was the phone, a return mailing label/postage, even a new piece of tape to seal the box. Put the phone in,sealed the box, put on the label, dropped it in the mail box. End of story. The new/refurb has worked great ever since.
Could not have been easier or more pleasant.
So far it has been very positive even when my phone was technically out of warranty they replaced my TILT (not a cheap phone)
I have done 4 returns via mail and 1 by going to a local AT&T Warranty exchange center. NO PROBLEMS, I did revert back to original ROM but I am sure they didn't check. store replacement was in and out in 25 minutes. ( 10 minutes after my phone was looked at they just gave me a new one ).
AT&T You do have great warranty service I will give you that.
so all sounds good i should just stick my device in bootloader mode and send it back?
i can only revert back the rom as i cant sspl it so it shows hardspl AND security unlocked at the top..think thatl make a difference?
My miniUSB port was broke, wouldn't charge or sync most of the time. I called AT&T told them what was wrong and they said they'd send me a replacement. Once the replacement got here, I reverted my phone back to at&t ship specs, sent it back to them and all went well.
My girlfriend and I both had the Hermes, unlocked w/ cooked rom. They physically broke to a point it was hard to revert them back, but eventually was able to, we got 2 brand new Kaisers for $50 a piece. I'd love to know if I can 'loose' this phone and get a new kaiser for another $50 then sell the one i've been using for a couple of months for 2 or 3 hundred. If anyone has done this or knows how let me know!
I recently had to send in my Tilt and recieved a refub in the mail and everything went very smooth. Customer service was good and fast.
just returned 2 8525's and they sent me a tilt, first 8525 white screen problem, second one wont continue installing rom above 12%. awesome hardware warranty service.
wow they upgraded you to a tilt, thats amazing
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as long as the phone isnt in more than one piece and the liquid indicator under the battery is white there should be no problem. Keep this in mind also. It all really depends on who receives it when you send it in. Everyone views physical damage, wear and tear, etc in their own terms even though there is a standard measure for it. Some let things go and others will say that a wear and tear scratch is damage. Generally you can get away with a bit as long as the phone doesnt look like a dog to it. No broken screens. No screens with pressure cracks (internal cracks). The screen is usually the biggie.
when i first got my kaiser i joined this site.. days later i BRICKED my phone, i had all types of apps and crap on my ppc. SO i went over to my original at&t shop and the dude called my bluff of "i dunno why, its not working". So i took my device and the next day went to another at&t shop with my brother. I walked in flirted my ass off with the ugliest sales rep i found.. and man this chick was beastly, and was able to swap out my device and get a new 512mb mem. card .. with no problem. i didnt even have a reciept, i just talked my way thru and SHAZAM!

What the **** just happened to my phone ???? NEED HELP !!!

I just bought an 8925 a couple of weeks ago (about a year used) and it was working fine...Best phone I've had so far...Yesterday I'm sitting in my car, I start the TT software and drive off. As I'm driving off I plug the phone into the car charger and pouf! Phone just blacks out. No lights no nothing. I tried to plug the phone into a wall charger, data cable, car charger, nothing. No light, no sign of life at all...
I also had just purchased a new battery for it, tried it and still the same, nothing at all....Suggestions ???????? PLEASE !!!!!!
What kind of car charger do you have? There are reports that if you use a cheap, generic charger it may fry your phone.
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What kind of car charger do you have? There are reports that if you use a cheap, generic charger it may fry your phone.
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THIS ONE. If it is fried, what can I do ? I mean, I'm sure I can't do much about the phone itself but can I maybe go after CellularAccessory.com ???
Good luck...
It's indeed highly recommended to only use HTC car chargers, there have been many reports of similar cases.
I dont think you are gona have much luck trying to go after the place you bought the charger from they usually have disclaimers about damage caused by anything they sell. If the phone truely is dead and going on your description you have probably fried components on the board, is to try claming on your household contents insurance just say it went pop when you plugged it in at home using your htc charger. Failing that if your phone is still under waranty then try the place you bought it from. DONT say you used a non branded charger though or you are screwed lol. Good Luck.
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Damn, paid $3.95 for a multipurpose car charger and it fried your Tilt. I can't imagine that. I'd be p*ssed.
take it to att and see if its still in warranty and get a new one..if its out of waranty then call htc in usa and it should still be covered (manufactures warranty is 15 months). Htc devices are the most knoqwn swapped out phones with warranty exchanges..its very simple..ive exchanged my tilt 4 times now. I dont even break a sweat if something even SEEMS wrong..i used to freak out and try to fix things myself but i eneded up doing more damage than needed and luckily att is so nice and understanding..i just emediately take it in and get a new one now..even if something doesnt feel right..if need be i throw it in boot loader mode and say it wont boot.
It probably should be noted that nobody is suggesting you defraud HTC or AT&T on an open forum, especially senior members. Since your device is regulated by the FCC and it would probably make it a Federal offense, I think I would stick to the basics in any discussions with everyone. If they don't ask, fine, If they do ask then use your own judgment.
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take it to att and see if its still in warranty and get a new one..if its out of waranty then call htc in usa and it should still be covered (manufactures warranty is 15 months). Htc devices are the most knoqwn swapped out phones with warranty exchanges..its very simple..ive exchanged my tilt 4 times now. I dont even break a sweat if something even SEEMS wrong..i used to freak out and try to fix things myself but i eneded up doing more damage than needed and luckily att is so nice and understanding..i just emediately take it in and get a new one now..even if something doesnt feel right..if need be i throw it in boot loader mode and say it wont boot.
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I will definately try that, but my only concern is that it's an unlocked att phone that I'm using in Montreal, Canada...Should I go to HTC Canada or USA???
Just tried calling HTC North America (the # that's on their website (425) 679-5318) and it just answers but with no sound at all..It's like if someone picks up the phone but it's just muted....I waited around 3 minutes thinking someone would probably end up answering, but no...
just take it into an att device support center (look on there site or call them) and just tell them it wont turn on..its not defrauding them its honest..as ling as its not PHYSICALLY DAMAGED (as in mving parts were damaged by dropping or mishandling) or WATER DAMAGED (as in the white square on the back is pink) then your good..This happened to me the frst time..i left it on a charge all night and next morning it wouldnt charge nor turn on and att took it with ease.
Wow, a three dollar car charger that is multipurpose for a several hundred dollar device.....the real question is...why? Before you ever plug anything into an electronic device please, please check the output voltage and amperage, a lesson to all.
Ok I was finally able to reach the repair dept. at HTC. They told me the phone is still under warranty so I sent it to their repair center in Indianapolis in the hopes they will be able to exchange it...
I do believe the phone is completely fried, but is there a way for them to still detect what caused it to fry ? Also, they told me that any third-party application they find on the phone voids the warranty, will they be able to see what was installed on the phone ??
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Ok I was finally able to reach the repair dept. at HTC. They told me the phone is still under warranty so I sent it to their repair center in Indianapolis in the hopes they will be able to exchange it...
I do believe the phone is completely fried, but is there a way for them to still detect what caused it to fry ? Also, they told me that any third-party application they find on the phone voids the warranty, will they be able to see what was installed on the phone ??
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If the phone is fryed I doubt they will be able to get it working thus they wont be able to see whats been installed on it and anything could have fryed it such as a power surge while it was plugged in at home. Just wait and see i guess.
once they take it apart they will be able to figure out the problem. sometimes not easy .
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It probably should be noted that nobody is suggesting you defraud HTC or AT&T on an open forum, especially senior members. Since your device is regulated by the FCC and it would probably make it a Federal offense, I think I would stick to the basics in any discussions with everyone. If they don't ask, fine, If they do ask then use your own judgment.
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LOL at your post..
"Htc devices are the most knoqwn swapped out phones with warranty exchanges"
Where do you get facts like that, I though nokias were the most swapped.. Is there a website that has these stats?
Either way, good luck on that exchange.
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I dont think you are gona have much luck trying to go after the place you bought the charger from they usually have disclaimers about damage caused by anything they sell. If the phone truely is dead and going on your description you have probably fried components on the board, is to try claming on your household contents insurance just say it went pop when you plugged it in at home using your htc charger. Failing that if your phone is still under waranty then try the place you bought it from. DONT say you used a non branded charger though or you are screwed lol. Good Luck.
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So as a moderator you like to teach people how to commit fraud?
TheChemist187 said:
So as a moderator you like to teach people how to commit fraud?
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I posted that message well over a month ago lol I have only been a moderator for under 2 weeks so I think im pretty safe
Mark.
mskip said:
I posted that message well over a month ago lol I have only been a moderator for under 2 weeks so I think im pretty safe
Mark.
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LoL... good answer mskip... and congrats for your new role.
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LoL... good answer mskip... and congrats for your new role.
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Thank you
Mark.

Calling Warranty People...

Hey,
My phone's charging port broke. Like the actual phone charging part broke, not the adapter(obviously, lol).
Anyways, what can I do? I'm under warranty and am going to call them, but they say I shouldn't say what actually happened as the problem. I also have a different ROM than the ATT Rom, but can't change it back.
I'm also interested in the Fuze, but I doubt I can exchange for that? If I can, what do I need to do, but if not what should I say for a good excuse to get me a new phone?
Thanks a bunch guys
Lol..if your phones charging port's broken (I dunno how you managed to do that but oh well) its highly unlikely that you'll get it replaced under warranty. Warranty will replace things like faulty motherboards, manufacturing defects and the likes.....not physical damage. You can still try your luck at an explanation and hope it works. Try to leverage the Christmas spirit in on this one
The people at AT&T literally told me to call warranty, one told me to make-up something like it is dropping text messages /etc
Any idea if this works?
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The people at AT&T literally told me to call warranty, one told me to make-up something like it is dropping text messages /etc
Any idea if this works?
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What does literally told me to call warranty mean?
schwalbach said:
Hey,
My phone's charging port broke. Like the actual phone charging part broke, not the adapter(obviously, lol).
Anyways, what can I do? I'm under warranty and am going to call them, but they say I shouldn't say what actually happened as the problem. I also have a different ROM than the ATT Rom, but can't change it back.
I'm also interested in the Fuze, but I doubt I can exchange for that? If I can, what do I need to do, but if not what should I say for a good excuse to get me a new phone?
Thanks a bunch guys
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A thread has been started about this already...check it here...see if your question is answered...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444726&highlight=warranty+tilt+fuze+exchange
also check my signature for the wiki and read about returning your phone and flashing the orginial rom back...search if has been discussed numerous numerous times
eskimochaos said:
What does literally told me to call warranty mean?
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Sorry for the misunderstanding.
They said I should call the warranty people and lie to them, say that it was something else like a reception problem or something.
Does anyone have experience with this? Will it not work because when Is end in my phone it will be obvious the charging port broke? I am just looking for suggestions, thanks a lot guys
slawcop` said:
A thread has been started about this already...check it here...see if your question is answered...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444726&highlight=warranty+tilt+fuze+exchange
also check my signature for the wiki and read about returning your phone and flashing the orginial rom back...search if has been discussed numerous numerous times
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Sorry for this but yes I saw that thread. Many of them are talking about warranties and software problems. Generally if it is a hardware problem, warranty wouldn't fix it I thought. But the actual AT&T rep told me to lie and say it was dropping calls and they would send me a new one. So I was wondering a couple things after hearing this, as to what my best options are, should I use
1) Call and tell the truth
2) Call and make up something
--If I do and they take my word, what will happen when I send the phone in and the charger is broke? Could we say that possibly happened during shipping?
I'm just wondering if I have any choices other than buying a new $400 phone.
When you call, just say that the device is not synching or charging properly, and go from there.
If the USB port was not properly soldered to the motherboard in the first place, then it could break through no fault of your own. let HTC figure out.
Unless you did break it yourself by trting to jam the USB in upside down or something...
burtcom said:
When you call, just say that the device is not synching or charging properly, and go from there.
If the USB port was not properly soldered to the motherboard in the first place, then it could break through no fault of your own. let HTC figure out.
Unless you did break it yourself by trting to jam the USB in upside down or something...
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I really have no idea how it broke. It is just like one section of the thing you plug in. Like I didn't even notice it, because it still plugs in. It is just one of the prongs is deattached(but still right beside the others, thus it could still be plugged in) and the deattached one I can move around with my stylus.

Nexus One swap, Will they charge me for unlocking?

Did any of you here swap your phone with HTC and your phone was unlocked?
My phone's defects are obviously hardware: Power button failing and Screen has a gap around sides, (Dust gathers around screen everyday, have to clean manually).
Can they charge me for unlocking and rooting it, even though these issues are hardware specific? Anyone has a story to share?
During the call, the HTC Rep told me that "we will charge your credit card for any non-warranty problems." Does unlocking count as one?
yes they will charge you for having your phone rooter,cause is out of the warranty that's what they told me over the phone...
I heard some Reps are unaware that HTC honors Hardware warranty. Maybe they said that to you because they are just reading a script that says "unlocking = void" I've read stories here that they still repair though. Is it true?
I just had my Nexus One (unlocked bootloader) replaced through HTC without a charge for a similar hardware defect. When I called, I didn't mention anything about it being rooted, nor did he ask. I received my replacement, HTC received my defective unit, and I was told my ticket was closed with no charge on my account.
The replacement I received has a new defect and I'm currently awaiting another replacement to swap it out as well. I don't think they care, but I wouldn't parade around talking about it. Just be courteous and flash everything back to stock as much as you can.
Ok, thanks for the info! It would be great if they didn't charge me for this.
Please keep us informed on how everything turns out. Several people have said they've had no trouble. It would be nice to get a list if reasons for RMA with success rate. I have a fairly strong feeling as long as it's hardware related and involves no root caused problem (led from n1 torch, speaker from louder music, etc.) the rate would be pretty high. HTC really, in all the times I've had any problems has been one of my favorite call centers to contact.
I have successfully swapped my phone. I had the dust under screen issue and i called them up. Not questions asked about unlocked. I got my phone and they waited a week or so and i saw my ticket was closed. Now im calling back because my replacement one now has dust under the screen also.
Did you guys get these phones new that you are able to do this?
I just bought my N1 used from someone and I'm wondering if this will apply to me if incase i get the dust issue
I have a question regarding replacement swapping as well.
My phone has the power button defect and I'd like to swap it for a new one.
However, I dropped my phone on asphalt recently and there are minor scuffs on 2 edges and a ding on the top left edge. Will this be a problem in swapping?
Will I get charged or something after they receive my phone? The defects are not related to me dropping it.
Coderedpl said:
Did you guys get these phones new that you are able to do this?
I just bought my N1 used from someone and I'm wondering if this will apply to me if incase i get the dust issue
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I got mine on Craigslist. I traded my Iphone 3gs for it. Wonderful trade. Android fanboy since G1, but wanted to see what all the hype was about for the iphone. I never saw it. haha.
So I called HTC. Told them the IMEI they asked if i still live blah blah address(the original owner). I told them nope. Gave them new address and name. They got my CC number and off we go. Got a replacement phone in 2 days. Sent the other one back. Case closed. All is good, until yesterday when I saw just under my replacement one also. Its been 3-4 weeks. Now i'm waiting for another replacement.
I got mine on craigslist too, not that AWESOME of a deal since i pretty much just got the phone (the charger barely charges) and the usb i got from a small cell store at a mall doesnt work...pfftt
so I need: Data cable, charger & car charger.
bleh
futango said:
I got mine on Craigslist. I traded my Iphone 3gs for it. Wonderful trade. Android fanboy since G1, but wanted to see what all the hype was about for the iphone. I never saw it. haha.
So I called HTC. Told them the IMEI they asked if i still live blah blah address(the original owner). I told them nope. Gave them new address and name. They got my CC number and off we go. Got a replacement phone in 2 days. Sent the other one back. Case closed. All is good, until yesterday when I saw just under my replacement one also. Its been 3-4 weeks. Now i'm waiting for another replacement.
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you didn't have to show proof or purchase/receipts?
blt51 said:
I have a question regarding replacement swapping as well.
My phone has the power button defect and I'd like to swap it for a new one.
However, I dropped my phone on asphalt recently and there are minor scuffs on 2 edges and a ding on the top left edge. Will this be a problem in swapping?
Will I get charged or something after they receive my phone? The defects are not related to me dropping it.
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I'd like to know the answer to this too. My phone has a stuck pixel but I also dropped it and now there is a crack in the screen. I'm wondering if they'll charge me for the swap.
I've had my N1 replaced almost 5 times, so I have some experience with this. Everything was perfect with my first phone except for one dead pixel, which was only visible from certain angles. However, considering the price that I paid for the phone, it wasn't acceptable from my perspective.
I read a lot about people having successes with replacements so I decided to do a swap. My recommendation is to think about doing a swap very carefully. Each time a replacement was sent to me, I found new problems with the phone.
For example, one replacement had a weak vibrate while another had a camera that took oversaturated photos. One of the phones had minor scratches on the screen. Another replacement turned out to be the replacement that was sent to me which I sent back (but with a different sticker and IMEI).
So I think that if the phone is not damaged significantly, such as huge cracks, they will not charge you any fees. So minor scratches on the phone and "normal use" damage is fine.
Also, if you purchased your phone from someone else, you will still be under the warranty and do swaps. I've asked this through the phone twice and both times I was told that they decided to honor warranty transfers.
HTC gave me a new one was well with unlocked bootloader. The problem with my phone was a software issue too. No questions asked.
This is great to hear.
I traded my iPhone 3GS for a N1 on craigslist only to discover it has some sort of hardware problem - Strange rebooting - not sure if it's heat related (doesn't seem so) or bad RAM (I've seen many reports). Went the replacement route (that's another story all together - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698156) and am awaiting the new unit. Just got my return shipping label, hopefully they wont charge me either!
x986123 said:
I heard some Reps are unaware that HTC honors Hardware warranty. Maybe they said that to you because they are just reading a script that says "unlocking = void" I've read stories here that they still repair though. Is it true?
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I had my Nexus One rooted and it was sent it to HTC for "power button failure" and they fixed it for no extra charge. Came back with a more firm-feeling power button and relocked.
They tried to charge me but after some reasoning with the right person on the phone they dropped the charge. You can also file a ticket with the Google Sales team and they will make sure you are not charged if you have a manufacturing defect unrelated to your phone being unlocked.
I bought mine from someone locally in salt lake, and after I had bought it, i noticed some dust under the screen. When I called HTC, they wouldn't replace the whole unit because there was an engraving on it. But they said they would send me a packing slip and i could send them the phone and they would take it apart and fix it. So hopefully it works.
adamhlj said:
I bought mine from someone locally in salt lake, and after I had bought it, i noticed some dust under the screen. When I called HTC, they wouldn't replace the whole unit because there was an engraving on it. But they said they would send me a packing slip and i could send them the phone and they would take it apart and fix it. So hopefully it works.
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Hey, I would try calling HTC again and talk to another representative if you want to do a swap for a replacement; sometimes the customer representatives tell you what they know and so they give different responses.
The warranty specifically says:
If you have engraved your phone with a personal message, the device that you receive will not include the engraving, and the engraving on the defective device will not be sent back to you. If you want to keep your engraving, you can opt for the express repair option.
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That is, unless you want to keep the engraving.
Good luck!

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