Hi... I have a Tmobile MDA (HTC Wizard) phone with the latest MDA ROM (2.26.10.2) on it.
What I would like to know is if I can download the Tmobile Wing (HTC Herald) ROM from Tmobile website and flash it to my MDA? Would it work or brick my MDA? Would I need to do CID unlock before loading the Wing ROM?
I checked and I have a G4 MDA. Hardware-wise both the phones are similar.... I would like to have WM6 on my MDA without having to go thru the flashing process.
Appreciate your help.
does anyone have any idea?
Search under the Windows Mobile 6 subforum for "boring ROM"....
Last line of original post-"I checked and I have a G4 MDA. Hardware-wise both the phones are similar.... I would like to have WM6 on my MDA without having to go thru the flashing process.", yes...they are similiar, but NOT the same! The Wings ROM WILL brick your MDA, ESPECIALLY since it is a G4. We have plenty of WM6 and WM6.1 ROMs here for your enjoyment. And about the wanting to upgrade without flashing...well, that is not possible! You HAVE to flash a new ROM in order to upgrade to a new version of Windows Mobile.
Thanks @ashasaur. I understand that I need to flash the ROM which will erase everything on the phone and load the new OS. I went thru some stickies and found out the process and have seen some G4 safe ROM version like TNT/Slim/BlackDiamond on the forums... would try them out.
One last question... incase if I have to revert to original WM5 Tmobile ROM... can I do that ? If so how ?
If you wanted to revert to the factory WM5 ROM not going to be a problem. You can go to T-Mobile's website and download the 2.26/2.26/WM5 ROM. It is the latest official T-Mobile ROM upgrade available for the Wizard. Here is it: http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
Also if you do a lot of flashing it is recommended that you always flash back to an official ROM before you switch to a newer WM6/WM6.1 ROM.
For example, I had TNT 6.1 but wanted to upgrade to WM6.1 Slim 4.0. Here are the steps:
1) Backed up all data
2) Flashed down to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
3) Flashed to WM6.1 Slim 4.0
4) Flashed the radio ROM I wanted (UK 2.19)
5) Flashed the IPL/SPL ROM I wanted (3.08/3.08)
6) Restore backed up data
Best way to backup and restore your contacts, SMSes, etc is FdcSoft's PPCPIMBackup. You can find it here in forum.
yes, that is a good system, but for G3 devices! When flashing a G4, DO NOT EVER flash ANY IPL/SPL to your phone or it WILL become a brick.
@ashasaur... I was planning to flash the Slim v4.0 on my G4 MDA (it says it is G4 safe). Do I need to flash a radio ROM too? Isnt it part of the Slim ROM ?
I have backed up my data using the dotfred's PIMBackup (v2.8)
yes, the Slim v4.0 is indeed G4 safe...im using on my G4 right now ASAF. You can flash a new radio ROM if you wish, but it is not required, the radio ROMs are a different part of the system, and not included with the regular OS ROMs...newer radio ROMs give better reception for some, but they are not required when flashing a new OS ROM.
Thanks @ashasaur... I plan to flash on weekend... will post my results here ... One more question... since you already have Slim 4.0 on your Wizard... do you see any issues specially regarding Bluetooth, Wifi, GPRS/EDGE (I have Tmobile Web plan)? Thanks.
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I want to upgrade to latest ROM and whatnot.... Im confused what file to download. Important everything works faster and better and bluetooth headset. Its running stock Cingular from day that I bought it... right when it became for sale.... please let me know what to download and install... latest most stable ROM and everything else thats required.....
Thanks!!!
in my opinion...
The best ROM that I've installed on my MDA is the Mr. Clean 2.24a Mr. Clean
2.24.10.1 WWE
02.25.11 Radio version
Great GSM reception and recovery, it loads super fast, the functions are also smooth and fast, WiFi is perfect...lightning fast!!!!
You can find it in the forum of XDA upgrades and more stuff.
Here's the link:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE.zip
It's seriously awesome.
Remember that you need to CID unlock your phone first, and then it will work like a charm.
Good luck!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
How different from the cingular same version one?
TIA
here are the differences
It doesn't have any of the Cingular logos, settings or anything that is pre-programmed. You have to put in your own settins, and there aren't any annoying settins such as MediaNet which launches when you try to connect via WiFi to the internet, and you know they charge you money for any kb transferred.
It's easy to create your own GPRS connections without any settings already there, and you have a cleaner running OS in the device.
I simply love it and recommend it. 8)
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hitechcowboy said:
It doesn't have any of the Cingular logos, settings or anything that is pre-programmed. You have to put in your own settins, and there aren't any annoying settins such as MediaNet which launches when you try to connect via WiFi to the internet, and you know they charge you money for any kb transferred.
It's easy to create your own GPRS connections without any settings already there, and you have a cleaner running OS in the device.
I simply love it and recommend it. 8)
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I'm in the same boat as HDD, I have the following specs
8125
ipl : 1.08
spl : 1.08
gsm : 01.16.11
os : 1.8.11.1
currently sim unlocked by lokiwiz0.3 and I about to CID-unlock with lokiwiz 0.2b. The question i have now is if I put in Mr. Clean 2.24a will I be able to go back to a Cingular ROM? or If i put in say Cingular's latest rom, or Tmobile's 2.26 will I be able to go back factory state.
From my searches, anything >= 2.21 roms will not be able to CID unlocked, so still wondering if I should upgrade....
yes you can
You will be able to; as long as the CID is unlocked.
This guide was written a long time ago. I recommend people to use this more up to date guide:
Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
I've got a lot of post behind my name, but most of my posts are answers to the same questions over and over again. It seems very hard for "noobs" to find the answer to their question quickly on the forum. I quickly wrote a little step by step tutorial for them. Hope it helps!
Suggestions or corrections are always welcome.
You want to flash your wizard, but don't know where to start. Try this:
0. First determine if you got a G3 or a G4 device. When you turn on your device from can can see you're IPL and SPL version on the screen. If you got IPL/SPL 1.xx or 2.xx you've got a G3 device. If the IPL/SPL shows 2.xx.xxx1 you've got a G4. Go to step G3.1 if you got a G3 and G4.1 if G4.
G3.1 Does you're device start normally (yes) or is it stuck on the three-colored bootloader screen (no)? YES... go to step G3.5, NO go to step G3.2
G3.2 Turn off you're device totaly. Remove the SD card and disconnect the USB cable from you're device. Turn on the device while holding the camera button. You will get into bootloader mode (3 colored screen). Connect the USB cable to the computer and you will see USB at the bottom of your screen above the left softkey (Activesync will not connect in bootloader mode, but you can flash from this screen!). If you got IPL/SPL 1.xx go to G3.3. If you got 2.xx go to G3.4
G3.3 Download button rom and flash it to your device. Your device should startup again after doing this. Go to G3.5.
G3.4 Download wizard_love rom and flash it to your device. Your device should startup again after doing this. Go to G3.5.
G3.5 Is your device CID-unlocked (note: it's not the same as SIM-unlocked!)? YES... go to step G3.7, NO OR DON'T KNOW go to step G3.6.
G3.6 Follow this great thread by Dr Puttingham: The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards. Don't skip step 17! Flash the T-Mobile 2.26 Rom! Go to step G3.8 if you got the T-Mobile rom with IPL/SPL 2.26 on your device after doing this.
NOTE: Some people seem to have problem with flashing the button rom in this step (stops at 98% with error 302). Replace button_rom with Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 and follow the rest of the steps normally when this happens!
G3.7 Download T-Mobile 2.26 rom and flash it to your device! Done? Go to step G3.8.
G3.8 You're reade to flash the AKU2, AKU3, WM6 rom of you're choise! It wasn't that hard, was it? If you still got an older OS version after flashing then you're not CID-unlocked! Go back to start!
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G4.1 Does you're device start normally (yes) or is it stuck on the three-colored bootloader screen (no)? YES... go to step G4.4, NO go to step G4.2
G4.2 Turn off you're device totaly. Remove the SD card and disconnect the USB cable from you're device. Turn on the device while holding the camera button. You will get into bootloader mode (3 colored screen). Connect the USB cable to the computer and you will see USB at the bottom of your screen above the left softkey (Activesync will not connect in bootloader mode, but you can flash from this screen!). go to G4.3
G4.3 Download wizard_love rom and flash it to your device. Your device should startup again after doing this. Go to G4.4.
G4.4 Is your device CID-unlocked (note: it's not the same as SIM-unlocked!)? YES... go to step G4.7, NO OR DON'T KNOW go to step G4.5. (note: CID-unlocking a G4 is only possible by paying for it at imei-check!)
G4.5 Download enable-rapi.zip. Transfer Cert_SPCS.cab and EnableRapi.cab to your phone. Run Cert_SPCS.cab FIRST and EnableRapi.cab SECOND. Turn your device off and on or wait 5 minutes before soft resetting. Done? Go to G4.6.
G4.6 Follow this great thread by the-equinoxe: [solution] G4 SoftSPL Flash any ROM to CID locked G4 [UPDATED] and load the softSPL on your device using his method. Make sure you take a G4 safe rom (see the thread for details). After the steps you'll have the rom of your choise on your device!
G4.7 You're reade to flash the AKU2, AKU3, WM6 rom of you're choise IF the rom DOESN'T contain IPL/SPL. AKU3 and WM6 roms normally don't contain IPL/SPL. If you want to flash an AKU2 rom, make sure you take the G4 version. If you get an error 300 (invalid update tool) while trying to flash your device look at this thread!
NOTE: If you tried to flash a G3 rom with IPL/SPL in the rom on a G4 you probably will have a bricked device! DON'T flash the new 3.08 and 3.09 IPL/SPL to your G4!
NOTE2: If you got problems flashing with softSPL: Follow this great thread by mun_rus: Solutuion found: how to flash any rom to CIDLOCKED DEVICE. If your device won't start after flashing you can use step G4.2 and G4.3 and try again. Also look at this thread by eddieitman: Faria G4 Step by step installer with instructions to make sure you did all the necessary steps!
Nice one.
One thing I've found is since the Mods split the WM6 stuff to a seperate forum a lot of noobs are in that forum and they don't see the stickies over here now (I've had a couple PM me directly asking where this Wizard Upgrading forum is at that I refer to in my posts ). So I think we need some stickies like this or something in the WM6 forum (or a sticky at the top of that forum with a pointer to this forum and maybe certain posts over here).
Nice. Maybe we should add a link in the Wiki to this...
--M
Corrected the links to wizard_love.... they didn't work.
I found this solution much better than shelltool for flashing my G4 CID-locked Wizard:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043
Shelltool can only flash the OS while using this modified RUU you can task the OS, splash screen, and the radio. Plus this modified RUU will also flash Wizards that do not bootup normally.
You can't flash a touched OS that way in a CID-locked G4.... only some 2.26 roms will work. Trying this with WM6 will go to 100%, but you're "old" OS will startup again.
Say i downgrade my phone to the T-mobile ROM but have a cingular phone...do i need to have my phone SIM unlocked to use it or since i changed ROMS it doesn't matter...
JBLaze407 said:
Say i downgrade my phone to the T-mobile ROM but have a cingular phone...do i need to have my phone SIM unlocked to use it or since i changed ROMS it doesn't matter...
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SIM Unlocking only allows you to use SIMs from a different carrier on your phone.
CID Unlocking allows you to flash different Carrier / Country roms on your phone.
If you are only CID Unlocked, you can flash Tmobile, Cingular, Qtek, etc on your phone, but your device will still connect to the same carrier that your SIM is setup for. So for me, I'm on Cingular. I flashed the TMobile 2.26 ROM and I have the complete TMobile look and feel, but my carrier and phone connection was still Cingular since thats what the SIM is for.
I always flash the TMobile 2.26 rom on my phone now before upgrading to a new custom ROM. Its more stable (IMO) than the CIngular 2.25 (at least numerous issues I used to have went away by doing this, but then the custom ROM may be really fixing that, but I like having the latest IPL/SPL for my base).
As always... YMMV
mfrazzz said:
SIM Unlocking only allows you to use SIMs from a different carrier on your phone.
CID Unlocking allows you to flash different Carrier / Country roms on your phone.
If you are only CID Unlocked, you can flash Tmobile, Cingular, Qtek, etc on your phone, but your device will still connect to the same carrier that your SIM is setup for. So for me, I'm on Cingular. I flashed the TMobile 2.26 ROM and I have the complete TMobile look and feel, but my carrier and phone connection was still Cingular since thats what the SIM is for.
I always flash the TMobile 2.26 rom on my phone now before upgrading to a new custom ROM. Its more stable (IMO) than the CIngular 2.25 (at least numerous issues I used to have went away by doing this, but then the custom ROM may be really fixing that, but I like having the latest IPL/SPL for my base).
As always... YMMV
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Thany you very much for the info...
nice work....stiky.....
could someone post the above info in wiki..... so we can redirect questions to wiki.
If I have CID-unlocked G3 T-Mobile Wizard with custom WM5 ROM installed .... why do I need to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before going to WM6 ?
bogdatov said:
If I have CID-unlocked G3 T-Mobile Wizard with custom WM5 ROM installed .... why do I need to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before going to WM6 ?
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Good question.... have you flashed T-Mobile rom before? If you haven't you will get the strong 2.26 IPL/SPL. It prevents many problems! This step is to prevent people to upgrade to WM6 with other IPL/SPL!
bogdatov said:
If I have CID-unlocked G3 T-Mobile Wizard with custom WM5 ROM installed .... why do I need to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before going to WM6 ?
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You want to downgrade so that it cleans up things that are possibly left from a previous install. The Official ROMs have everything (IPL / SPL / OS / Radio / Extended ROM / etc). If you go straight from a custom rom to another custom rom you may find you have stuff left over because the new custom rom doesn't clean up everything. I've seen where things are left in the message queue, so you start getting pop errors about not finding something when that was on the previous ROM.
While it takes extra time, flashing back to an official rom gives you a clean base for the custom rom to work off of. Well worth it for me so I always do this. Takes an extra 15 mins or so, which is better than wasting a day chasing some issue that wouldn't have been there.
BTW: Congrats on getting your post promoted to a Sticky!
mfrazzz said:
You want to downgrade so that it cleans up things that are possibly left from a previous install. The Official ROMs have everything (IPL / SPL / OS / Radio / Extended ROM / etc). If you go straight from a custom rom to another custom rom you may find you have stuff left over because the new custom rom doesn't clean up everything. I've seen where things are left in the message queue, so you start getting pop errors about not finding something when that was on the previous ROM.
While it takes extra time, flashing back to an official rom gives you a clean base for the custom rom to work off of. Well worth it for me so I always do this. Takes an extra 15 mins or so, which is better than wasting a day chasing some issue that wouldn't have been there.
BTW: Congrats on getting your post promoted to a Sticky!
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Is it also recommended that a downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 is followed for unlocked G4 phones?
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Is it also recommended that a downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 is followed for unlocked G4 phones?
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Good question. I don't have a G4, but I'd think the same would hold true to get a stable / clean base for the new custom rom.
pdagenius said:
Is it also recommended that a downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 is followed for unlocked G4 phones?
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NO! that rom has IPL/SPL in it. Don't try flashing this rom onto a G4! It could brick your device!
thanx a lot !
Great job vippie!
I've updated my thread to reference this.
Please update the first post
Hi Vippie,
Can you please update the first post so that when you tell people to get to the bootloader screen that Activesync will NOT connect, but if it says USB above the left softkey that it is connected? This is something I've had to tell people over and over. People see that activesync doesn't connect so they stop and don't go any further.
Thanks! And again, excellent work on this guide. I'm pointing people to this now as I like how its laid out and gives G3 and G4 info in one place (since so many newbies don't think its important to tell us what they have or anything)
BTW: Has this been put into the Wiki?
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Hi Vippie,
Can you please update the first post so that when you tell people to get to the bootloader screen that Activesync will NOT connect, but if it says USB above the left softkey that it is connected? This is something I've had to tell people over and over. People see that activesync doesn't connect so they stop and don't go any further.
Thanks! And again, excellent work on this guide. I'm pointing people to this now as I like how its laid out and gives G3 and G4 info in one place (since so many newbies don't think its important to tell us what they have or anything)
BTW: Has this been put into the Wiki?
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Good one.... updated the starting post! Thnx!
If I have to go back to an older WM5 t-mo ROM, do I need to do the unlocking/CID unlocking procedure again?
I got Core WM6 flashed via Shelltool, and thought I'd try a different WM6 ROM, and got errors 99% of the way through. Bootloader time for me. So I'm re-flashing the old T-Mo rom, because the Core RomUpdateUtility complains I need a newer version.
I'm going to try to go back to the Core WM6 rom once the t-mo flashes correctly, since I haven't had any luck with any other rom, even using shelltool. Am I missing a critical step someplace? I've read the FAQ/stickies and it seems like other roms should work.. ?
TIA for any assistance,
b
Why do you use shelltool if you're CID-unlocked? Have you got a G3 or a G4?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
Hi,
I have a Cingular 8125 phone, I upgraded it WM6 with one of the ROM that I downloaded from xda forums. I do NOT know which one that I downloaded. I remember downloading and installing one of the T-Mobile stuff, then flashing a new WM6 ROM from this forum. My phone locks up every time AFTER I receive/make a phone call. I would like to go back to stock WM5. I have no idea how this works, but it appears that I am running the risk of bricking my device if I do it wrong. Any help would be appreciated. Following is the details of what I have.
During BOOT it shows
T-Mobile Logo
IPL 3.08
SPL 3.08
GSM 2.25.11
OS 6.1.0.0
After boot,
About page says Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Device Information page says,
ROM Version: 6.1.0.0 WWE
ROM Date: 1/16/08
Radio Version: 2.25.11
Protocol Version 4.1.13.12
Thanks,
JSenthil
no problem, just flash he original rom.
I have it, from mda t-mobile.
I think i have from cingular to, if you need it, let me know.
Isn't that I first have to downgrade my SPL/IPL to 2.xx in order for the original WM5 to work on my G3 wizard?
Can you please explain the steps involved? BTW, where can I find the original ROM, are you referring to the one that can be downloaded from the HTC website?
Thank you for your help,
JSenthil
Unfortunately I installed iPhone skin onto my Cingular 8125. I would like to revert process and get back my WM5, but I tried "hard reset" (Comm Mng + Voice buttons and poke reset with stylus) and nothing. Keeps going back to the iPhone skin. Few things do not work, still has scroll bar on side, connection and battery icons and no lock mode. Contact list feels like iPhone, but is not well developed, still has bugs and menus to la-la land.
Please help, I don't know much about WM5 or cell phones.
Thanks!
rapanui
ricomilion said:
no problem, just flash he original rom.
I have it, from mda t-mobile.
I think i have from cingular to, if you need it, let me know.
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ricomilion,
Could you hook me up with the Cingular/At&t original WM5 ROM?
Thanks,
daveetrice
Yes, id like the cingular wm5 stock rom as well if possible...im having problems after "upgrading" to wm6 too.
WM6
Can someone help for locate the WM6 ROM for the 8125 also WM5 so I can scale back if 6 hoses up my phone? Thanks.
Maybe my ROM's would work for you guys
Cingular Official stock wm5 Rom :-
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8125/software-downloads.html
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
I am in need of a stock T-Mobile ROM for the MDA (not sure which # is the latest) I was trying some of the custom builds here based on Windows Mobile 6.1 but wanted to get back to a stock 5.0 or 6 - but obviously I went and got the wrong one...
I am having an issue with connecting to the network to make calls on this MDA too, so I don't really want to walk into the T-Mo store with a cingular splash screen on it when I go to get a new SIM!
Thanks in advance.
go to www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade and you should find it there.
Official T-Mobile Wm5 rom :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/38880130/ruu_prodigy_226102_22610105_022511_tmous_wwe_ship.exe.html
Thanks, that worked. Now, how do I get to a stock WM 6? The t-mo site wouldn't let me grab it...