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Very slow 3G

First, I HAVE searched for 3G speed ups, 3G adjustments, ect. I HAVE read the WiKi until my eyes are RED without finding any solution to my problen.
Using AT&T Tilt, 6.0 Stock Rom/Radio
Rom:1.62.00.00
Radio:1.27.14.09
Prot:22.45.88.07H
My 3G down speed is 141k with .49 sec latency. This sinks!
Things that I have tried:
Larger RWIN.
Increase connections
Increased re transmits .
Three browsers PIE OPRA NetFront.
WiFi speed 1.456k .02sec.
It takes an enormous amount of time "Locating" and "Opening" a page before it begins to load.
Perhaps a different DNS server might help that but can not find any info on how to change the DNS server.
Any help would be appreciated. It is still within the 30 day AT&T return window and if it can't do better than this, it is going back.

You can probably thank all those 3G iPhones. After they hit the market my speeds plummeted too.
Have you tried other radios?

Indeed, you'll have to put up with it, be it with the Tilt or any other phone. Data network usage has increased a lot following the release of the 3G iphone, and in some places the network just can't cope.

JimmyMcGee said:
You can probably thank all those 3G iPhones. After they hit the market my speeds plummeted too.
Have you tried other radios?
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Tell me about it! The only place I can even think about getting decent 3G signal these days is in San Francisco. Damn those iPhone users, ruining my great tethering experience!

neely30188 said:
It takes an enormous amount of time "Locating" and "Opening" a page before it begins to load.
Perhaps a different DNS server might help that but can not find any info on how to change the DNS server.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276694
Search helps ...........
Also,
https://www.opendns.com/smb/start/device/windows-mobile-5-pocketpc

It's a lot better here than it was immediately post-launch of the ipoon but it's still pretty bad. I get decent 3G speeds but the downloads stall which is worse than just going slowly.
Sometimes it'll download a 200-300k file to 90% almost immediately then just sit there forever. I have to cancel and restart the download a few times. Very annoying. Better than it was before still.. A few months ago there was nearly zero chance of downloading anything over 3G. Email took forever to sync, and downloading in IE/Opera was impossible.
Interesting experiment I tried though... I took a file, blah.jpg. Copied it to blah.png blah.exe blah.zip blah.lkdjfa etc... Blah.jpg, .png, .lkdsjflak etc, all downloaded pretty reliably. .zip, .exe, .rar, etc... did not. I haven't seen anyone else suggest this sort of pattern, but I found it very interesting.

I'm using OpenDNS now too w/ AT*T's 3G (H). So far it's an improvement, but still not what it used to be. Still stuck between 600 - 1020 kbit/sec w/ .302s latency. I used to be around 1300 religiously.

Thanks for your replies. I did some testing and here is what I have found. I ran a series of 10 tests in each situation and tossed out the high and low and averaged the rest.
First, changed the DNS server and that made quite a difference in the "Location" time but of course did nothing for the down speed.
Second, with DSLreports Mobile speed test using 1 MB block, I found that PIE was twice as fast as the NetFront browser that I was using. The same was true loading large pages such as CNN.com. Darn, I really liked NetFront. I will have to try some other browsers.
Third, I found that using software and header compression made no difference.
Speeds last night around 1am were avg around 145k, today at 12pm the are avg around 700k with PIE and 325k with NetFront, go figure.
What is the WINS address and would it help to change it?
Can I change to a better access point? [mine is wap.singular]

3g vs wifi speed test

I did a speed test for both 3g and over my wifi using the speedtest.net app in the marking and got some strange results.
1st test over 3g: 561k down, 410k up ping 232 ms and thats after opening the app.
2nd test I left app open and just pushed test again and got 931k down and 373k up 181ms ping.
Over wifi 1st test 910k down 371k up 259ms ping, again did test after just opening app
2nd test left app open and pushed test again and got 5744k down 768k up 112ms ping.
I did several test, about 20 with tests some after just opening app and some leaving app open and just pushing test button again. I did this because web pages over wifi seemed to load just as fast as on 3g. Any ideas?

Bronk93 said:
I did a speed test for both 3g and over my wifi using the speedtest.net app in the marking and got some strange results.
1st test over 3g: 561k down, 410k up ping 232 ms and thats after opening the app.
2nd test I left app open and just pushed test again and got 931k down and 373k up 181ms ping.
Over wifi 1st test 910k down 371k up 259ms ping, again did test after just opening app
2nd test left app open and pushed test again and got 5744k down 768k up 112ms ping.
I did several test, about 20 with tests some after just opening app and some leaving app open and just pushing test button again. I did this because web pages over wifi seemed to load just as fast as on 3g. Any ideas?
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Not really a fair comparison, as of now 3g is capped at around (2?)mb download, the wifi is as fast as the internet you pay for. If you pay for 15mb/s internet, that's should be how fast the internet on your phone should be

I think the point was the strange readings on the first run vs the second run.
I have tried this and I am getting the same results. The second run is always noticeably faster.
JAguirre1231 said:
If you pay for 15mb/s internet, that's should be how fast the internet on your phone should be
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Key word, "should"... In reality, that is not the case for the Dream. I have never seen a speed test over 6Mb/s down on the Dream even though I have 18Mb/s internet service.

t1n0m3n said:
I think the point was the strange readings on the first run vs the second run.
I have tried this and I am getting the same results. The second run is always noticeably faster.
Key word, "should"... In reality, that is not the case for the Dream. I have never seen a speed test over 6Mb/s down on the Dream even though I have 18Mb/s internet service.
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Yup, same here... I have 15MB/s, and my max ever was high 5's... a lot of it has to do with the server for the test.
As well, just because you have that fast of data transfer doesn't mean the phone can process that much data that fast and render. The real limitation in loading a webpage isn't the internet speed (assuming you are about 1mb/s) it is the ability of the phone to actually process that much info that fast and render it into what we see on the phone. This is why despite a speed difference between 3G and WiFi pages seem to load just as fast on both. The only difference one might see is during d/l's, but even then those are typically limited by the host server.

[Q] Best data counter for tracking usage?

Hello All
Has anyone found a good data counter for the Galaxy. I use the Mobile AP tool a lot to share internet with my laptop. I used to have an MDA Diamond running Windows and my traffic per month was usually between 1 gig and 2 gig which was reported by i think Octrotalk or something, it was the default data counter that came with the phone.
My problem is that now i'm on Android i can't use that program so i've been using NetCounter which has good reviews but i don't believe the figures its reporting. I tried the Phone Usage app too but that didn't even report anything. In nearly a full month NetCounter says ive only used 141 mb which is way too low. I go on Youtube, I download apps and i surf all via the phone then i connect to my laptop 4 days a week and stay connected for around 9 hours. I have XDA and Facebook both on tab most of the time as well as visiting other sites and i play quite a lot of java games on Facebook so surely it should be higher than 141mb
Was the windows phone just downloading lots of extra rubbish?
or is NetCounter not reporting correctly?

I use 3G Watchdog, seems to work alright and has a nice widget to sit on your homescreen

bigdave196 said:
I use 3G Watchdog, seems to work alright and has a nice widget to sit on your homescreen
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same here
once we upgrade to froyo there is a better one that tracks the usage of each single application in your PC... i mean SGS phone

AllGamer said:
same here
once we upgrade to froyo there is a better one that tracks the usage of each single application in your PC... i mean SGS phone
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Lol.... yea when it eventually gets released, that's another thing to look forward to then
Thank you both for your answers, i'll install it right away and report back in about a months time.

Iv personally used 3g watchdog for some time and had a slight problem with the program resetting the counter before the end of the month/bill tried everything but it never kept counting till needed
currently using net counter from android market which never gave me any problems yet , running good and strong for a couple of months now no random resets, im not quite sure about sharing the 3g connection as i never did yet. i tried it at first when i got the phone and found out the connection was working a little faster than the 3.5g wireless modem i use for my laptop which only proved to me that the phone was as amazing as it is.
i recommend both as both give you detailed info with 3g , wifi usage but for tethering im not quite sure if its counted in those 2 programs
i guess u could make things easier and get a counter for ur pc/laptop and then simple set the tethered connection as a seperate one and at the end of the month add the phones counter with the laptop's one (( doing all this just to reduce the load on the phone and get an accurate measure for how much ur using from ur data plan))
LOL i recently found out from a techie at my cell provider ETISALAT that the unlimited*** 3.5g data package notice the 3 stars ***= a monthly limit of 10GB of both upload/download combined worth 135 dollers a month. They sure know how to suck us dry >_<

Mobile Counter
I used 3G watchdog for quite sometime but it wasnt as accurate and it stayed in status bar no matter what we try which was quite irritating
So i switched to Mobile Counter app..i luv it..it is accurate..shows many graphs..and the best thing u also have widgets in that..BABY I LIKE IT!!
Hit THANKS if i helped

Slow data over wifi

So guys, I've just bought a nexus 6 last week, and I'm experiencing some strange issues with the WiFi.
Loading content is really slow, things like loading app list on google play, new videos from my subscriptions on YouTube or even a search on google using chrome can take minutes (not exaggerating here, on stopwatch to load the information and pictures of an app on play store the phone took more than 2 minutes).
And some notifications they don't come right away, (new emails, WhatsApp,etc...)
Although the internet where I live now is not the best and the modem/router is a single channel fritzbox, it's fast enough for a simple WhatsApp message to come through.
What I ruled out is:
Provider blocking ports used by google services < contacted the support and no ports are blocked, and things work fine with my mate 7 running kit Kat
Provider slowing down access to google < nope, it's illegal here and again my mate 7 works fine
Interference by other WiFi networks < I'm in a WiFi crowded place now, but my router is the only one on channel 13, tried other channels and no luck either, and again all other WiFi devices work fine here.
My nexus 9 shows the same symptom but not always.. So I assume it's a lollipop thing... Someome has some tips of things that I should try? Thanks a lot

Luinwethion said:
So guys, I've just bought a nexus 6 last week, and I'm experiencing some strange issues with the WiFi.
Loading content is really slow, things like loading app list on google play, new videos from my subscriptions on YouTube or even a search on google using chrome can take minutes (not exaggerating here, on stopwatch to load the information and pictures of an app on play store the phone took more than 2 minutes).
And some notifications they don't come right away, (new emails, WhatsApp,etc...)
Although the internet where I live now is not the best and the modem/router is a single channel fritzbox, it's fast enough for a simple WhatsApp message to come through.
What I ruled out is:
Provider blocking ports used by google services < contacted the support and no ports are blocked, and things work fine with my mate 7 running kit Kat
Provider slowing down access to google < nope, it's illegal here and again my mate 7 works fine
Interference by other WiFi networks < I'm in a WiFi crowded place now, but my router is the only one on channel 13, tried other channels and no luck either, and again all other WiFi devices work fine here.
My nexus 9 shows the same symptom but not always.. So I assume it's a lollipop thing... Someome has some tips of things that I should try? Thanks a lot
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Have you run a speedtest by chance?

Liam Neeson said:
Have you run a speedtest by chance?
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Yes, and some times it never finishes it when trying the upload test, download speed is okay with 9Mbps but upload test stays in 0... Ping is not consistent between 23ms up to 83...
Will post a screenshot with a new test as soon as my PC is finished downloading updates .

Luinwethion said:
Yes, and some times it never finishes it when trying the upload test, download speed is okay with 9Mbps but upload test stays in 0... Ping is not consistent between 23ms up to 83...
Will post a screenshot with a new test as soon as my PC is finished downloading updates .
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Could you try running a speedtest on the nexus 6 and the. On the mate 7? This will help narrow things down a bit.

I'd say it's most likely a router issue. On my 100 Mbit/s broadband I just clocked 111 Mbit/s over Wi-Fi. In other words, the N6 is more than capable...

Tethering on T-Mobile Nexus 6 partially working?

I am having a very frustrating problem with my tethering. For some reason my phone is picking up on my tethering partially. I have used up my data quota for the month, however I am rooted. I have tryed CM12, CM13, Rooted Stock, and a few other Roms. I can directly test to see if it is fully hidden from detection, when I go to speedof.me I am getting about 100-200 kbps (And yes that is kilabit and not byte). My Playstation 4 is recording around 150kbps but many sites load very fast with a few of them as an exception. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fully hide my tethering usage from T-Mobile? Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
Thanks!

rmuell01 said:
Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
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um, what?

rmuell01 said:
I am having a very frustrating problem with my tethering. For some reason my phone is picking up on my tethering partially. I have used up my data quota for the month, however I am rooted. I have tryed CM12, CM13, Rooted Stock, and a few other Roms. I can directly test to see if it is fully hidden from detection, when I go to speedof.me I am getting about 100-200 kbps (And yes that is kilabit and not byte). My Playstation 4 is recording around 150kbps but many sites load very fast with a few of them as an exception. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fully hide my tethering usage from T-Mobile? Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
Thanks!
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Use an app called Wi-Fi Tether Router from the play store. It's a paid app, but it is worth it and I have used it on multiple devices.

as far as i know, you cant hide the tethering from tmobile as of android 6.0.1(i could be wrong though). anyways, tmobile gives you tethering for free. unlimited tether on all plans except the unlimited high speed data plan, which they give you 5gb.

daggorlad said:
Use an app called Wi-Fi Tether Router from the play store. It's a paid app, but it is worth it and I have used it on multiple devices.
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You know what settings I am supposed to have for it? I have that app and I tried it without much luck.
simms22 said:
as far as i know, you cant hide the tethering from tmobile as of android 6.0.1(i could be wrong though). anyways, tmobile gives you tethering for free. unlimited tether on all plans except the unlimited high speed data plan, which they give you 5gb.
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I am able to hide most of the data, however my ps4 updates add to the tethering as well as some sites. I even tried cm12 and got the same problems.
jj14 said:
um, what?
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Speedtest.net is allowed through T-Mobile, meaning you can do as many speed tests as you like without it going towards your data.

rmuell01 said:
You know what settings I am supposed to have for it? I have that app and I tried it without much luck.
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I use the settings as stated in this post on the Padfone X forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59186153&postcount=3

rmuell01 said:
I am having a very frustrating problem with my tethering. For some reason my phone is picking up on my tethering partially. I have used up my data quota for the month,
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Sounds to me like an over-quota rate limit, not a tether-detect.
however I am rooted. I have tryed CM12, CM13, Rooted Stock, and a few other Roms.
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Why do you think that would have any impact on something done on the NETWORK side?
I can directly test to see if it is fully hidden from detection, when I go to speedof.me I am getting about 100-200 kbps (And yes that is kilabit and not byte).
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"kila" is NOT an SI prefix. You probably mean "kilo", meaning 10^3.
My Playstation 4 is recording around 150kbps but many sites load very fast with a few of them as an exception.
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It doesn't necessarily take a huge throughput for a webpage to load fast. Most of page load speed is related to LATENCY, which isn't impacted by a rate limit. What I mean by that, is if a server replies in 10 ms (milliseconds), it doesn't matter if your throughput is 5 kbps or 5 Gbps, it still replies in 10 ms.
On top of that, throttling isn't always implemented in a manner that you would anticipate. For instance, if the pipe can run 25 Mbps, they might feed you 10 KB at 25 Mbps, then pause, then feed you another 10 KB at 25 Mbps. If the page you are loading fits in under 10 KB, then it loads at full speed, but if it is 100 KB, then it takes 10 cycles and you experience the slowdown.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fully hide my tethering usage from T-Mobile? Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
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To start with, you would need to prove that the issue you are experiencing is actually a function of tethering being detected. Pick a big file on a known fast server, and download it using wget, ON YOUR PHONE. busybox comes with an implementation of wget that you can use. So something like; cd /sdcard; busybox wget http://server.net/some_big_file.iso and see what wget reports as your speed. Then do the same test TETHERED from a different machine, and compare the results.

Sounds to me like an over-quota rate limit, not a tether-detect.
-I have unlimited fast LTE Data through T-Mobile, the problem is that T-Mobile is recongnizing my PS4 downloading as tethering but not me downloading multi gigs worth of files through my computer.
Why do you think that would have any impact on something done on the NETWORK side?
-CM12 is 5.1 and not 6.0 and they all are completely custom roms and should have no tethering detection whatsoever.
"kila" is NOT an SI prefix. You probably mean "kilo", meaning 10^3.
-Yes I do, My mistake. Was typing on my phone.
It doesn't necessarily take a huge throughput for a webpage to load fast. Most of page load speed is related to LATENCY, which isn't impacted by a rate limit. What I mean by that, is if a server replies in 10 ms (milliseconds), it doesn't matter if your throughput is 5 kbps or 5 Gbps, it still replies in 10 ms.
On top of that, throttling isn't always implemented in a manner that you would anticipate. For instance, if the pipe can run 25 Mbps, they might feed you 10 KB at 25 Mbps, then pause, then feed you another 10 KB at 25 Mbps. If the page you are loading fits in under 10 KB, then it loads at full speed, but if it is 100 KB, then it takes 10 cycles and you experience the slowdown.
-You saying that it really doesn't matter what the download speed is? Because the last I checked the average web page is around 2MB, which would make a drastic difference when you are on a connection that only provides 150kbps speeds. That would mean that it would take 136 seconds to load a "normal" webpage, compared to instantly on a 25mbps connection. Yes there can be slowdowns due to how the server sends you the data, but I can sure tell what is normal connection speeds and what is not. 150kbps is 2G speeds and therefore that would lead me to believe that T-Mobile is detecting certain sites as tethering and giving it 2G speeds.
To start with, you would need to prove that the issue you are experiencing is actually a function of tethering being detected. Pick a big file on a known fast server, and download it using wget, ON YOUR PHONE. busybox comes with an implementation of wget that you can use. So something like; cd /sdcard; busybox wget (URL) and see what wget reports as your speed. Then do the same test TETHERED from a different machine, and compare the results.
-I can run a speedtest on my phone through speedof.me and get 40Mbps and when I run it on my PC I get 150kbps. Sounds like T-Mobile is slowing my tethering down big time.

doitright said:
Sounds to me like an over-quota rate limit, not a tether-detect.
Why do you think that would have any impact on something done on the NETWORK side?
"kila" is NOT an SI prefix. You probably mean "kilo", meaning 10^3.
It doesn't necessarily take a huge throughput for a webpage to load fast. Most of page load speed is related to LATENCY, which isn't impacted by a rate limit. What I mean by that, is if a server replies in 10 ms (milliseconds), it doesn't matter if your throughput is 5 kbps or 5 Gbps, it still replies in 10 ms.
On top of that, throttling isn't always implemented in a manner that you would anticipate. For instance, if the pipe can run 25 Mbps, they might feed you 10 KB at 25 Mbps, then pause, then feed you another 10 KB at 25 Mbps. If the page you are loading fits in under 10 KB, then it loads at full speed, but if it is 100 KB, then it takes 10 cycles and you experience the slowdown.
To start with, you would need to prove that the issue you are experiencing is actually a function of tethering being detected. Pick a big file on a known fast server, and download it using wget, ON YOUR PHONE. busybox comes with an implementation of wget that you can use. So something like; cd /sdcard; busybox wget http://server.net/some_big_file.iso and see what wget reports as your speed. Then do the same test TETHERED from a different machine, and compare the results.
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daggorlad said:
Use an app called Wi-Fi Tether Router from the play store. It's a paid app, but it is worth it and I have used it on multiple devices.
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daggorlad said:
I use the settings as stated in this post on the Padfone X forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59186153&postcount=3
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Those settings enabled the Wi-Fi but did not hide the tethering fully.

Update**
Just tried flashing every one of the radios on this post with no luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-modem-collection-t2969380
Also Tried USB tethering and it gave the same result.

rmuell01 said:
Update**
Just tried flashing every one of the radios on this post with no luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-modem-collection-t2969380
Also Tried USB tethering and it gave the same result.
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Did you run the experiment that I asked you to run?

doitright said:
Did you run the experiment that I asked you to run?
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Yes. Just downloaded Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool on my phone from this address http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/KVRT/latest/full/KVRT.exe and then tried the same thing on my PC and I get 13KB per second where as my phone got 4MB per second.