I am having a very frustrating problem with my tethering. For some reason my phone is picking up on my tethering partially. I have used up my data quota for the month, however I am rooted. I have tryed CM12, CM13, Rooted Stock, and a few other Roms. I can directly test to see if it is fully hidden from detection, when I go to speedof.me I am getting about 100-200 kbps (And yes that is kilabit and not byte). My Playstation 4 is recording around 150kbps but many sites load very fast with a few of them as an exception. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fully hide my tethering usage from T-Mobile? Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
Thanks!
rmuell01 said:
Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
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um, what?
rmuell01 said:
I am having a very frustrating problem with my tethering. For some reason my phone is picking up on my tethering partially. I have used up my data quota for the month, however I am rooted. I have tryed CM12, CM13, Rooted Stock, and a few other Roms. I can directly test to see if it is fully hidden from detection, when I go to speedof.me I am getting about 100-200 kbps (And yes that is kilabit and not byte). My Playstation 4 is recording around 150kbps but many sites load very fast with a few of them as an exception. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fully hide my tethering usage from T-Mobile? Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
Thanks!
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Use an app called Wi-Fi Tether Router from the play store. It's a paid app, but it is worth it and I have used it on multiple devices.
as far as i know, you cant hide the tethering from tmobile as of android 6.0.1(i could be wrong though). anyways, tmobile gives you tethering for free. unlimited tether on all plans except the unlimited high speed data plan, which they give you 5gb.
daggorlad said:
Use an app called Wi-Fi Tether Router from the play store. It's a paid app, but it is worth it and I have used it on multiple devices.
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You know what settings I am supposed to have for it? I have that app and I tried it without much luck.
simms22 said:
as far as i know, you cant hide the tethering from tmobile as of android 6.0.1(i could be wrong though). anyways, tmobile gives you tethering for free. unlimited tether on all plans except the unlimited high speed data plan, which they give you 5gb.
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I am able to hide most of the data, however my ps4 updates add to the tethering as well as some sites. I even tried cm12 and got the same problems.
jj14 said:
um, what?
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Speedtest.net is allowed through T-Mobile, meaning you can do as many speed tests as you like without it going towards your data.
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You know what settings I am supposed to have for it? I have that app and I tried it without much luck.
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I use the settings as stated in this post on the Padfone X forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59186153&postcount=3
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I am having a very frustrating problem with my tethering. For some reason my phone is picking up on my tethering partially. I have used up my data quota for the month,
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Sounds to me like an over-quota rate limit, not a tether-detect.
however I am rooted. I have tryed CM12, CM13, Rooted Stock, and a few other Roms.
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Why do you think that would have any impact on something done on the NETWORK side?
I can directly test to see if it is fully hidden from detection, when I go to speedof.me I am getting about 100-200 kbps (And yes that is kilabit and not byte).
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"kila" is NOT an SI prefix. You probably mean "kilo", meaning 10^3.
My Playstation 4 is recording around 150kbps but many sites load very fast with a few of them as an exception.
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It doesn't necessarily take a huge throughput for a webpage to load fast. Most of page load speed is related to LATENCY, which isn't impacted by a rate limit. What I mean by that, is if a server replies in 10 ms (milliseconds), it doesn't matter if your throughput is 5 kbps or 5 Gbps, it still replies in 10 ms.
On top of that, throttling isn't always implemented in a manner that you would anticipate. For instance, if the pipe can run 25 Mbps, they might feed you 10 KB at 25 Mbps, then pause, then feed you another 10 KB at 25 Mbps. If the page you are loading fits in under 10 KB, then it loads at full speed, but if it is 100 KB, then it takes 10 cycles and you experience the slowdown.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fully hide my tethering usage from T-Mobile? Obviously if I go on Speedtest.net I get flawless speeds because T-Mobile allows speedtest.net without using data.
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To start with, you would need to prove that the issue you are experiencing is actually a function of tethering being detected. Pick a big file on a known fast server, and download it using wget, ON YOUR PHONE. busybox comes with an implementation of wget that you can use. So something like; cd /sdcard; busybox wget http://server.net/some_big_file.iso and see what wget reports as your speed. Then do the same test TETHERED from a different machine, and compare the results.
Sounds to me like an over-quota rate limit, not a tether-detect.
-I have unlimited fast LTE Data through T-Mobile, the problem is that T-Mobile is recongnizing my PS4 downloading as tethering but not me downloading multi gigs worth of files through my computer.
Why do you think that would have any impact on something done on the NETWORK side?
-CM12 is 5.1 and not 6.0 and they all are completely custom roms and should have no tethering detection whatsoever.
"kila" is NOT an SI prefix. You probably mean "kilo", meaning 10^3.
-Yes I do, My mistake. Was typing on my phone.
It doesn't necessarily take a huge throughput for a webpage to load fast. Most of page load speed is related to LATENCY, which isn't impacted by a rate limit. What I mean by that, is if a server replies in 10 ms (milliseconds), it doesn't matter if your throughput is 5 kbps or 5 Gbps, it still replies in 10 ms.
On top of that, throttling isn't always implemented in a manner that you would anticipate. For instance, if the pipe can run 25 Mbps, they might feed you 10 KB at 25 Mbps, then pause, then feed you another 10 KB at 25 Mbps. If the page you are loading fits in under 10 KB, then it loads at full speed, but if it is 100 KB, then it takes 10 cycles and you experience the slowdown.
-You saying that it really doesn't matter what the download speed is? Because the last I checked the average web page is around 2MB, which would make a drastic difference when you are on a connection that only provides 150kbps speeds. That would mean that it would take 136 seconds to load a "normal" webpage, compared to instantly on a 25mbps connection. Yes there can be slowdowns due to how the server sends you the data, but I can sure tell what is normal connection speeds and what is not. 150kbps is 2G speeds and therefore that would lead me to believe that T-Mobile is detecting certain sites as tethering and giving it 2G speeds.
To start with, you would need to prove that the issue you are experiencing is actually a function of tethering being detected. Pick a big file on a known fast server, and download it using wget, ON YOUR PHONE. busybox comes with an implementation of wget that you can use. So something like; cd /sdcard; busybox wget (URL) and see what wget reports as your speed. Then do the same test TETHERED from a different machine, and compare the results.
-I can run a speedtest on my phone through speedof.me and get 40Mbps and when I run it on my PC I get 150kbps. Sounds like T-Mobile is slowing my tethering down big time.
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Sounds to me like an over-quota rate limit, not a tether-detect.
Why do you think that would have any impact on something done on the NETWORK side?
"kila" is NOT an SI prefix. You probably mean "kilo", meaning 10^3.
It doesn't necessarily take a huge throughput for a webpage to load fast. Most of page load speed is related to LATENCY, which isn't impacted by a rate limit. What I mean by that, is if a server replies in 10 ms (milliseconds), it doesn't matter if your throughput is 5 kbps or 5 Gbps, it still replies in 10 ms.
On top of that, throttling isn't always implemented in a manner that you would anticipate. For instance, if the pipe can run 25 Mbps, they might feed you 10 KB at 25 Mbps, then pause, then feed you another 10 KB at 25 Mbps. If the page you are loading fits in under 10 KB, then it loads at full speed, but if it is 100 KB, then it takes 10 cycles and you experience the slowdown.
To start with, you would need to prove that the issue you are experiencing is actually a function of tethering being detected. Pick a big file on a known fast server, and download it using wget, ON YOUR PHONE. busybox comes with an implementation of wget that you can use. So something like; cd /sdcard; busybox wget http://server.net/some_big_file.iso and see what wget reports as your speed. Then do the same test TETHERED from a different machine, and compare the results.
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daggorlad said:
Use an app called Wi-Fi Tether Router from the play store. It's a paid app, but it is worth it and I have used it on multiple devices.
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I use the settings as stated in this post on the Padfone X forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59186153&postcount=3
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Those settings enabled the Wi-Fi but did not hide the tethering fully.
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Just tried flashing every one of the radios on this post with no luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-modem-collection-t2969380
Also Tried USB tethering and it gave the same result.
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Just tried flashing every one of the radios on this post with no luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-modem-collection-t2969380
Also Tried USB tethering and it gave the same result.
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Did you run the experiment that I asked you to run?
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Did you run the experiment that I asked you to run?
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Yes. Just downloaded Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool on my phone from this address http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/KVRT/latest/full/KVRT.exe and then tried the same thing on my PC and I get 13KB per second where as my phone got 4MB per second.
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Does anyone know of a mobile compatible speed test site / software that can test upload speeds as well as download speeds? It seems T-mobile UK has eneable HSUPA and increased HSDPA to 7.2mbit recently (my 3g icon now says H constantly )
I know the Kaiser aint supposed to support HSUPA but it would be nice to test it.
Thanks.
well you could try the same flash based speed-tests used for PC's
Here is one: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
Another: http://www.speedtest.net/
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well you could try the same flash based speed-tests used for PC's
Here is one: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
Another: http://www.speedtest.net/
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Thanks. The 1st link crashed Opera, and the second brought my phone to its knees!
I did find this though that seems to work ;
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/
Opera 9.5 w/ Flash 7 will run speedtest.net correctly. I got 167k down, 67k up w/ 999 ms ping to some random isp around indiana ( I live in Bloomington, IN ) using Edge.
remember that O9.5+flash is sloooow, so you have to be patient for the flash program to recognize your test point and stuff.
Check out BBR (broadband reports ) they have a mobile speed test there.
I have used this link. Give it a try.
http://www.mobilespeedtest.com/bandwidthmeter/meter.php
http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed
I just use the above URL and the results for 3 tests were:
In the UK on Orange, using 1Mb file size, I got:
534kb/sec with 17.644 sec download
709kb/sec with 12.008 sec download
932kb/sec with 9.295 sec download
773kb/sec with 11.084 sec download
583kb/sec with 14.542 sec download
The last three were spread over a 90 minute period so the test, whilst useful as a benchmark, isn't consistant.
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I have used this link. Give it a try.
http://www.mobilespeedtest.com/bandwidthmeter/meter.php
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Thanks. These sites only test download speeds, I wanted to test upload too. The DSLReports site seems closest to doing this with its beta Iphone speed test but it seems to have problems at the moment, failing with a 0ms warning.
From the tests I have ran so far, I am getting downloads around 1mbit/s, nowhere near the 7.2mbit/s.
dslreports.com using the iphone speed test (or full mobile browser) my highest result was 1350kbs. this is a nice program to have bookmarked so you can test whenever you want. im not sure if it matters, but you may also want to deleate cookies and whatnot to ensure a fresh result
do what I do and tether your phone to your computer and run a speedtest that way. It may not be 100% accurate but you can get a good idea what your speeds are like.
ajs007 said:
In the UK on Orange, using 1Mb file size, I got:
534kb/sec with 17.644 sec download
709kb/sec with 12.008 sec download
932kb/sec with 9.295 sec download
773kb/sec with 11.084 sec download
583kb/sec with 14.542 sec download
The last three were spread over a 90 minute period so the test, whilst useful as a benchmark, isn't consistant.
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I get 8192.00 Mbps
I am in Denmark using 3 (3G)
cyber_system said:
I get 8192.00 Mbps
I am in Denmark using 3 (3G)
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You get 8192 Mbps...meaning 8.192 Gbps? Did you mean 8192 kbps?
speed test results
I just recently went to speedtest.net and i am not sure if it is correct. I am using a tmobile hd2. ran test from within phone browser and this is what it showed. is that possible. Please see attached thumb nail.
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I just recently went to speedtest.net and i am not sure if it is correct. I am using a tmobile hd2. ran test from within phone browser and this is what it showed. is that possible. Please see attached thumb nail.
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Yes, it is normal if you are running the test while connected trough ActiveSync
Mobile Download and Upload Speed Test
chaps said:
Does anyone know of a mobile compatible speed test site / software that can test upload speeds as well as download speeds? It seems T-mobile UK has eneable HSUPA and increased HSDPA to 7.2mbit recently (my 3g icon now says H constantly )
I know the Kaiser aint supposed to support HSUPA but it would be nice to test it.
Thanks.
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This post is way old but I wanted to give my input.
Try TestMy Mobile. Works well with most android and iphones, right in your default web browser. Join and your results are permanently logged for you... so you can track your connection over time. Just search google for "testmy" and you'll find it. I don't have enough posts to post a link... I've been a member here for nearly a year and I haven't posted enough, sorry guys -- maybe a mod can add the link later
That site worked for me, afraid that I can't share links either, but here is the site I used...
hxxp://testmy.net/mobile
In case you're interested, I got an upload speed of 608Kbps, or 76KBps, on an O2 HSDPA connection.
Geekaphone Mobile Speedtest
We've just launched a new mobile speedtest, the myTouch 4G on T-Mobile is currently top of the pack... compare your phone!
geekaphone.com/mobile-speedtest
First, I HAVE searched for 3G speed ups, 3G adjustments, ect. I HAVE read the WiKi until my eyes are RED without finding any solution to my problen.
Using AT&T Tilt, 6.0 Stock Rom/Radio
Rom:1.62.00.00
Radio:1.27.14.09
Prot:22.45.88.07H
My 3G down speed is 141k with .49 sec latency. This sinks!
Things that I have tried:
Larger RWIN.
Increase connections
Increased re transmits .
Three browsers PIE OPRA NetFront.
WiFi speed 1.456k .02sec.
It takes an enormous amount of time "Locating" and "Opening" a page before it begins to load.
Perhaps a different DNS server might help that but can not find any info on how to change the DNS server.
Any help would be appreciated. It is still within the 30 day AT&T return window and if it can't do better than this, it is going back.
You can probably thank all those 3G iPhones. After they hit the market my speeds plummeted too.
Have you tried other radios?
Indeed, you'll have to put up with it, be it with the Tilt or any other phone. Data network usage has increased a lot following the release of the 3G iphone, and in some places the network just can't cope.
JimmyMcGee said:
You can probably thank all those 3G iPhones. After they hit the market my speeds plummeted too.
Have you tried other radios?
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Tell me about it! The only place I can even think about getting decent 3G signal these days is in San Francisco. Damn those iPhone users, ruining my great tethering experience!
neely30188 said:
It takes an enormous amount of time "Locating" and "Opening" a page before it begins to load.
Perhaps a different DNS server might help that but can not find any info on how to change the DNS server.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276694
Search helps ...........
Also,
https://www.opendns.com/smb/start/device/windows-mobile-5-pocketpc
It's a lot better here than it was immediately post-launch of the ipoon but it's still pretty bad. I get decent 3G speeds but the downloads stall which is worse than just going slowly.
Sometimes it'll download a 200-300k file to 90% almost immediately then just sit there forever. I have to cancel and restart the download a few times. Very annoying. Better than it was before still.. A few months ago there was nearly zero chance of downloading anything over 3G. Email took forever to sync, and downloading in IE/Opera was impossible.
Interesting experiment I tried though... I took a file, blah.jpg. Copied it to blah.png blah.exe blah.zip blah.lkdjfa etc... Blah.jpg, .png, .lkdsjflak etc, all downloaded pretty reliably. .zip, .exe, .rar, etc... did not. I haven't seen anyone else suggest this sort of pattern, but I found it very interesting.
I'm using OpenDNS now too w/ AT*T's 3G (H). So far it's an improvement, but still not what it used to be. Still stuck between 600 - 1020 kbit/sec w/ .302s latency. I used to be around 1300 religiously.
Thanks for your replies. I did some testing and here is what I have found. I ran a series of 10 tests in each situation and tossed out the high and low and averaged the rest.
First, changed the DNS server and that made quite a difference in the "Location" time but of course did nothing for the down speed.
Second, with DSLreports Mobile speed test using 1 MB block, I found that PIE was twice as fast as the NetFront browser that I was using. The same was true loading large pages such as CNN.com. Darn, I really liked NetFront. I will have to try some other browsers.
Third, I found that using software and header compression made no difference.
Speeds last night around 1am were avg around 145k, today at 12pm the are avg around 700k with PIE and 325k with NetFront, go figure.
What is the WINS address and would it help to change it?
Can I change to a better access point? [mine is wap.singular]
I did a speed test for both 3g and over my wifi using the speedtest.net app in the marking and got some strange results.
1st test over 3g: 561k down, 410k up ping 232 ms and thats after opening the app.
2nd test I left app open and just pushed test again and got 931k down and 373k up 181ms ping.
Over wifi 1st test 910k down 371k up 259ms ping, again did test after just opening app
2nd test left app open and pushed test again and got 5744k down 768k up 112ms ping.
I did several test, about 20 with tests some after just opening app and some leaving app open and just pushing test button again. I did this because web pages over wifi seemed to load just as fast as on 3g. Any ideas?
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I did a speed test for both 3g and over my wifi using the speedtest.net app in the marking and got some strange results.
1st test over 3g: 561k down, 410k up ping 232 ms and thats after opening the app.
2nd test I left app open and just pushed test again and got 931k down and 373k up 181ms ping.
Over wifi 1st test 910k down 371k up 259ms ping, again did test after just opening app
2nd test left app open and pushed test again and got 5744k down 768k up 112ms ping.
I did several test, about 20 with tests some after just opening app and some leaving app open and just pushing test button again. I did this because web pages over wifi seemed to load just as fast as on 3g. Any ideas?
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Not really a fair comparison, as of now 3g is capped at around (2?)mb download, the wifi is as fast as the internet you pay for. If you pay for 15mb/s internet, that's should be how fast the internet on your phone should be
I think the point was the strange readings on the first run vs the second run.
I have tried this and I am getting the same results. The second run is always noticeably faster.
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If you pay for 15mb/s internet, that's should be how fast the internet on your phone should be
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Key word, "should"... In reality, that is not the case for the Dream. I have never seen a speed test over 6Mb/s down on the Dream even though I have 18Mb/s internet service.
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I think the point was the strange readings on the first run vs the second run.
I have tried this and I am getting the same results. The second run is always noticeably faster.
Key word, "should"... In reality, that is not the case for the Dream. I have never seen a speed test over 6Mb/s down on the Dream even though I have 18Mb/s internet service.
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Yup, same here... I have 15MB/s, and my max ever was high 5's... a lot of it has to do with the server for the test.
As well, just because you have that fast of data transfer doesn't mean the phone can process that much data that fast and render. The real limitation in loading a webpage isn't the internet speed (assuming you are about 1mb/s) it is the ability of the phone to actually process that much info that fast and render it into what we see on the phone. This is why despite a speed difference between 3G and WiFi pages seem to load just as fast on both. The only difference one might see is during d/l's, but even then those are typically limited by the host server.
Hi,
I have this big, big problem with my carrier (Orange Spain) where they are charging me an arm and an eye for data connections I didn't make. I mean I just got this month's bill and I owe them 150€! Looking at it in detail I see numerous data connections ranging in the tens or hundreds of megs, made when I wasn't even using the phone. There's even one where I supposedly used 1,7 Gb!
They assure me that the connections have been made even if I'm not aware of them, and said that maybe they're due to a faulty phone. Is there a known problem with the N1 or any Android apps where they might be using those huge amounts of data without the user knowing it?
The apps use as much data as you let them use.
For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account. Don't be surprised that doing it will result in huge bills.
No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
email accounts with sync amount=all?
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
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For example, if you have unprotected tethering turned on - you're providing all your surroundings with free internet on your account.
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Nope, I don't. I wasn't even tethering by USB at the time these connections were made.
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No, there is no "known problem". Apps use internet connection, some more, some less. Want to control it? Install 3G Watchdog or any other app that checks the amount of data traffic used, and find what's using it.
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Does 3G Watchdog tell you which app is using / has used the data?
britoso said:
what apps do you have that sync data?
gallery syncing with Picasa?
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Yep... but no new photos were uploaded.
britoso said:
Lookup mobile security backing up your photos?
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No, none of that.
britoso said:
email accounts with sync amount=all?
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Yes... still, those amount to 5-10 mails a day, tops.
osugsxr said:
data is fairly heavy with the phone, I average around 5-8gbs/month
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I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
No, 3G Watchdog doesn't tell you what app used the traffic. But there are others that do. Recently someone asked about such app, try to search the forum.
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I never surpassed 400Mb before this, and I haven't changed my habits at all. Suddenly I'm over 3Gb.
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Well, that should rule out Android itself from your OP. It must be an app. Newsrob? You should look into any app that autosyncs. Also check their sync interval settings.
Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
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Alright, I ran some tests regarding this problem yesterday. First I turned off the phone and removed the SIM card, to see if there was any data traffic. I suspect my carrier is charging me for fake connections, so it was important to rule out the possibility of they registering connections while the card was removed.
I had it off for the rest of the day and, as expected, no connections were registered.
Then I installed 3G Watchdog and something curious happened: 3G Watchdog says I've spent exactly 91,4Kb, but Orange's web says I've spent 3,4Mb.
This brings a question, and the answer is very very important to me: is is possible that the phone is making connections and these are going unregistered by 3G Watchdog? That is, that the phone is using the Internet and 3G Watchdog doesn't see it?
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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Interesting. I would also argue that there is a lot more "background" data going on in android than on other mobile OS.
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This is, obviously, your bias showing and nothing more. There is no "background" data besides the obvious data - Gmail? Email? Contact sync (only when contacts change)? Data-syncing apps? Data-downloading apps (Maps/Navigation)? They're not present on "other mobile OS"? If they are - they draw the same data.
You might argue that Android gives a lot more "connectivity" to use by default, so users end up using a lot more data. That's closer to the truth - since Google apps rely on web availability, and they're available by default and easily accessible, they end up being used. On the other hand, it doesn't differ from installing those apps on any other mobile platform that supports it.
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No, the connections don't go "unnoticed" by 3G Watchdog. But the charge for the connections isn't always calculated in "straightforward" way, as one would expect - please try to find earlier threads for it, I remember someone bringing this point already, and if I'm not mistaken - it was for one of the European carriers. For example, carriers can charge for any data packet, regardless of its size, as minimum of X size - so if you have an app that syncs and it has downloaded 5kB from the internet in 10 packets, it'll still register as charge for 100kB of data on your provider's site.
Check if they recently changed the calculation of the data charges - it might be the answer why suddenly you see your data usage blown.
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I already took that into account: some of the connections Orange is charging me for don't amount to a Kylobyte, so we can discard that. And I have single connections that range from the tens of Megs to a top of 1.67Gb. All of them connections I didn't make, obviously.
Install this:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.curvefish.apps.trafficinfo
And check, what is connecting. If it's your phone at all.
Thanks, I've just started using it.
Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
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Thanks, I've just started using it.
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I am encountering the same issue (not so huge leaks but unknown as well)
TrafficInfo says me the following components use that data (every day lots of megabytes):
MediaStorage
DRM Protected Content Storage
Download Manager
have you figured out what that was?
Please let us know.
Thank you in advance
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Run:
tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap
After a while, open that on your computer using WIRESHARK. It will tell you EXACTLY WHERE your phone is connecting to, as well as what protocol it is using, and even (if it isn't encrypted data), what data is being transferred.
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Thanks a lot man,
I don't know what that was in case of frandavid100,
but thanks to you I've figured out what is happening on my side.
I did tcpdump -vv -s 0 -w /sdcard/output.cap as you mentioned.
Your wise advice and mighty tool let me understand that my N1 downloads FRG83 firmware update from Google servers some times per day (but it can't install it because CM6 ROM is on board).
I really appreciate your help ! Thanks again.
Shortcut maker was used when I was with sprint to be able to hide hotspot usage as regular phone data, doesn’t seem to work on Verizon. Has anyone been able to mask there hotspot data usage count against regular data?
Just changed to the carrier unlocked version which does not check for tethering subscription: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/rd-carrier-switch-root-snapdragon-t3597473
Throttling down a Verizon hotspot fix
Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.:laugh:
I don't know if this will work, but what if you clone the mac address of the device(s) connected to the hotspot to that of the phone?
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Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.:laugh:
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Can you pm the app please?
Can anyone tell me if they got this to work and
How? I am throttled every month.
greyshemp said:
Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.:laugh:
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Could you PM me how you do this?
Please tell me how
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Originally Posted by greyshemp
Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.
greyshemp said:
Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.:laugh:
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i have a rooted phone and i can stick the sim card into from verizon but what app ??
greyshemp said:
Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.:laugh:
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Can you pm the app please?
greyshemp said:
Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.:laugh:
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Hello. Can you PM me the app? I'm hoping to be able to root my phone and give this a shot. I have the Google Pixel from Verizon so I'm not entirely sure I'll be able to root.
I would like to know what app this is. Been trying everything I know to keep big red in the dark. Nothing works so far.
greyshemp said:
Not sure if anybody else has encountered the sudden throttle down to 600 600 kilobytes after 15 gigs of your hotspot use speed unlimited data got me pretty upset anyways if anybody found a way to fix it that would be great. Better use below though
And the meantime I was able to find a fix for it that gives me the ability to use the hotspot and Verizon does not recognize it as being a hotspot. It requires a rooted phone and an application that has been out for at least 7 years that you have to purchase one time. And also another secret for it. When my data runs with a high spot normally I would get 30 to60 megabytes per second Now using this method I'm able to get to still 15 megabytes per second which allows me to download games and stream whenever I want to. Reply if you have questions because I really don't want the big V to figure out and take care of it. The cool thing about it is that when you go through your data usage it shows up as being data off your phone not the hotspot so I've already used up this month I might hotspot over 200 GB just to mess around and make sure it's working and I was supposed to rub it in to Verizon for screwing my unlimited package.[emoji23]
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Any updates?
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Could you pm me this app and Method please, straighttalk just got on my ass about Hotspot ting even though I've been with them and doing it for 7+ years
pupnsuds said:
Could you pm me this app and Method please, straighttalk just got on my ass about Hotspot ting even though I've been with them and doing it for 7+ years
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Download PDANet, FoxFi, and FoxFiKey.... you will be good and covered
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