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Howdy, guys. First post here, hoping to lean on y'all for some help.
I'm new to the WM phone category, but have been using a mobile computer since the days of the HP200LX, then to a Philips Nino, Casio E100, HX4700 and now the TyTNII. My use is both personal and line-of-business as a highly mobile 'day trip' laptop replacement.
I already have a considerable investment in PPC software from WM5 (list below), but given this is going to be a constant travelling companion unlike my HX4700 which I'd leave behind often because of it's size, I'd like to replicate that utility on the new device.
Suffice to say I'm no stranger to PocketPC (or whatever MS is calling it these days), but I have a couple questions. Short and simple:
1) What's the difference between the TomTom 'Taster' version and the full version (V.6) shrinkwrap?
2) What usability software would you recommend? Looking for something to make the smaller screen easier to navigate. I currently own:
1-Calc (PPC and desktop)
Pocket Mechanic
Virtual Explorer
Ewallet
Flex Mail
Pocket Informant
ListPro (Pro)
SPB: (PocketPlus, Backup, Finance, Weather)
Calligrapher
PhatPad/PhatNotes
Tweaks2k2
NetFront
(Yes, they're all legitimate, purchased, licensed copies)
3) What ROM updates would you recommend? I've already flashed 6.1 off the HTC site, but find the machine hangs a bit from time to time. Though I tend to prefer my installs lean and mean, the utilities in the HTC unit are very nice, like the camera and wireless control panel to turn on and off the various radios.
Well, that's it for now. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
Howdy Bill,
BillTheCat said:
2) What usability software would you recommend? Looking for something to make the smaller screen easier to navigate. I currently own:
1-Calc (PPC and desktop)
Pocket Mechanic
Virtual Explorer
Ewallet
Flex Mail
Pocket Informant
ListPro (Pro)
SPB: (PocketPlus, Backup, Finance, Weather)
Calligrapher
PhatPad/PhatNotes
Tweaks2k2
NetFront
(Yes, they're all legitimate, purchased, licensed copies)
3) What ROM updates would you recommend? I've already flashed 6.1 off the HTC site, but find the machine hangs a bit from time to time. Though I tend to prefer my installs lean and mean, the utilities in the HTC unit are very nice, like the camera and wireless control panel to turn on and off the various radios.
Well, that's it for now. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
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That's quite a list you got there.
For easier navigation you might want to try
1) Ultimate Launch
2) SPB Mobile Shell (i see you have the other SPB softwares..)
3) WisBar Advance
You will find some good therads in XDA on all the softwares mentioned above.
3) What ROM updates would you recommend?
Since you already have the latest official ROM, you might want check out the cooked ROMS here.
Here's link that gives you good info on most available ROMS for the Kaiser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399510
Also, be sure to read all about Hard SPL before you try flashing a cooked ROM
Here's the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
The Reaper said:
Since you already have the latest official ROM, you might want check out the cooked ROMS here.
Here's link that gives you good info on most available ROMS for the Kaiser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399510
Also, be sure to read all about Hard SPL before you try flashing a cooked ROM
Here's the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
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Thanks for the feedback. I confess as much as I like the idea of having a ROM with only what I want, it makes me a bit nervous. I've twaddled with re-flashing my RAZR in times past, and even used 'cooked' ROM versions on my HX4700, but neither of them were a $600+ phone. What is the risk on any of these procedures? Is it possible to brick the phone?
BillTheCat said:
Thanks for the feedback. I confess as much as I like the idea of having a ROM with only what I want, it makes me a bit nervous. I've twaddled with re-flashing my RAZR in times past, and even used 'cooked' ROM versions on my HX4700, but neither of them were a $600+ phone. What is the risk on any of these procedures? Is it possible to brick the phone?
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Only if you don't follow the instructions. Read, re-read and follow exactly and nothing should go wrong. There are some brilliant people (GSLEON3's are burning) on here who can help you if something untoward happens.
All of the information you could ever need is in the stickies and Wiki. If you get stuck with anything find the thread for it and ask.
There is even a process for Reverting back to the OEM SPL and ROM/Radio for a warranty return.
Ta
Dave
BillTheCat said:
Thanks for the feedback. I confess as much as I like the idea of having a ROM with only what I want, it makes me a bit nervous. I've twaddled with re-flashing my RAZR in times past, and even used 'cooked' ROM versions on my HX4700, but neither of them were a $600+ phone. What is the risk on any of these procedures? Is it possible to brick the phone?
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I used to have to get back to a computer to check email regularly - I did not realize how often this actually affected my day. With the TILT I no longer have THAT problem - I get emails and can respond to them easily and rapidly. I highly recommend the TILT for business people as it has definitely improved my ability to conduct business.
I recently went to a convention and needed internet access for a demonstration. The show (Seattle Convention Center) charges $800.00 for three days worth of internet access. I used internet sharing on my Tilt and at no charge did the demo. Priceless... (well - saved $800.00 right there)
Personally I have found that I do not need anything other than what is in my current ROM (see my signature) although I use TomTom for navigation when I go on client sites as I am directionally challenged and don't care for mapquest. I also use TRAVKME - nice program.
The TOMTOM taster version vs real version? The real version works - nuff said.
Can you brick your phone - come on guy - read some . You will see lots up here about people bricking their phone. I am a newbie myself and have now flashed three times with no problems - you will need to read a lot but it seems to work for lots of other people. Not reading enough will be your downfall.
Good luck,
Bill
whk said:
Can you brick your phone - come on guy - read some .
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Bill, no need to be condescending. I'm not lazy, just cautious. I have enough experience to know what I don't know, and to know that what I don't know can hurt me very much. There's been more than one buggy bootloader and cooked ROM in the history of Windows Mobile. Besides, there seems to be some controversy over HardSPL in terms of how it works. I'd like to hear some discussion on that.
I guess what it boils down to is figuring out what I do and don't want on the machine, and which ROM fits those needs. Because I have so much full-version 3rd party software, there's not much I really need in the ROM. For example, zip is handled by VirtualExplorer.
Still looking for a more crisp reply on the TomTom issue, though. I've read on another board (Extensis) that it's the same as the full version but limited to one small map. But I'd like to see that corroborated by at least one or two more people, or someone who has firsthand knowledge. The reason is simple economics. TomTom is charging $140 for the full version, but only $70 for a map. If I have the core application, that's a fairly attractive savings.
Thanks for the ideas. I'll poke around and see what works.
Tomtom taster only gives you one map, mostly just a city, the other version provides The entire country or more sometimes.
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Bill, no need to be condescending. ..snip.. Besides, there seems to be some controversy over HardSPL in terms of how it works. I'd like to hear some discussion on that.
I guess what it boils down to is figuring out what I do and don't want on the machine, ..snip..
Still looking for a more crisp reply on the TomTom issue, though. I've read on another board (Extensis) that it's the same as the full version but limited to one small map. But I'd like to see that corroborated by at least one or two more people, or someone who has firsthand knowledge. The reason is simple economics. TomTom is charging $140 for the full version, but only $70 for a map. If I have the core application, that's a fairly attractive savings.
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Sorry that you thought it was condescending... It was not meant to be. BUT - you asked if you can brick your phone and if you had read it would be OBVIOUS to you that you CAN brick your phone as there are many sad tales of those who did not read or had other issues.
There is NOT a lot of controversy on HARDSPL - please read the thread on that - you will find that a lot more is known about it now and there appears to be resolution - you need to know which HARDSPL to load for which ROM you are loading and you will be all set.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
The ROM choice is yours and you will have to play/read and try until you are happy. Opinions on ROMs will certainly vary. YOUR opinion will be the only one that you value.
The TEST VERSION will NOT work with full maps - you will need to purchase a full version if you want a TOMTOM that actually works. Not sure how to say that more clearly - if TOMTOM was stupid enough to give you a test version that worked the same as the full version why would ANYONE purchase the full version?
YES - there are HACKS out there that will allow you to circumvent their scheme to make you pay them money - but that is stealing and you would not do that would you? (One of your other posts I think made a great show of how all the software you had was legal and purchased - you would not want to start down a different road now would you?)
Bill
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Tomtom taster only gives you one map, mostly just a city, the other version provides The entire country or more sometimes.
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Ok, but is the core code and feature set the same? Is the "tasting" referring only the map size? IOW, if I were to buy the full US map, does Taster+ENTIREUSMAP=TT6? Or would I be missing something?
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Sorry that you thought it was condescending...
There is NOT a lot of controversy on HARDSPL - please read the thread on that - you will find that a lot more is known about it now and there appears to be resolution - you need to know which HARDSPL to load for which ROM you are loading and you will be all set.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
The TEST VERSION will NOT work with full maps - you will need to purchase a full version if you want a TOMTOM that actually works. Not sure how to say that more clearly - if TOMTOM was stupid enough to give you a test version that worked the same as the full version why would ANYONE purchase the full version?
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No harm done. Just didn't sound quite right at first read.
I guess I just didn't get far enough along in that thread yet. There are more than just a few posts.
I think you may be mistaken on the TomTom issue. It's a 'tAster', not 'tEster' version. I think what they've done is to give the core program but charge for the map only. I'm on hold with TomTom as I type this and will get back to you guys once I have an answer from them, or if I don't get a clear answer from them, I'll contact HTC directly.
At the end of the day, I'm in a 'holding pattern' of sorts. I don't want to invest a huge amount of time installing and configuring software for the current ROM implementation only to have to do it all over again with a redacted version.
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No harm done. Just didn't sound quite right at first read.
I guess I just didn't get far enough along in that thread yet. There are more than just a few posts.
I think you may be mistaken on the TomTom issue. It's a 'tAster', not 'tEster' version. I think what they've done is to give the core program but charge for the map only. I'm on hold with TomTom as I type this and will get back to you guys once I have an answer from them, or if I don't get a clear answer from them, I'll contact HTC directly.
At the end of the day, I'm in a 'holding pattern' of sorts. I don't want to invest a huge amount of time installing and configuring software for the current ROM implementation only to have to do it all over again with a redacted version.
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Taster tester...toMAYto toMAto - Quite sure that I am NOT wrong and that you will want to get the NAV6 full version. but - no worries. I think that you will also find (as others have) that TOMTOM tech support and HTC support on this issue are as useful as a third navel (the first navel was useless...) If you can purchase the full maps and have them work with the TASTER version - not sure about that - but you are going to pay for the full version of the maps the same as if you purchased the full version of the software including the maps - I think anyway.
From what I have seen the AT&T stock ROM was pretty good - I actually liked it. I upgraded to the DEATH ROM because it was AT&T based and looked like it had some improvements that I thought I would like - version 4 I upgraded to last evening.
Personally - (I have not run any of Dutty's or other ROMs) the DEATH ROM rocks.
1. fast
2. stable
3. hesitations gone
4. fast switching
5. radio clear and flawless
6. bluetooth works a treat on three different sets that I use regularly
7. fast connection on GPS
8. using the 3.5 dialer (the version 4 dialer is sad in my opinion as I like large buttons) the phone is awesome
9. email works a treat
The only "bug" I have at the moment is the crazy screen going off on me when I am on a phone call - and the chef is looking at that.
My recommendation -
1. upgarde your current ROM to DEATH 4.1 and
2. purchase full version of NAV6 from TOMTOM.
Pretty sure you will be happy camper.
Bill
I am using the TomTom 'taster' version supplied with my Kaiser quite happily with a full version of UK & Ireland map with no problems
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Taster tester...toMAYto toMAto - Quite sure that I am NOT wrong and that you will want to get the NAV6 full version... TOMTOM tech support and HTC support on this issue are as useful as a third navel (the first navel was useless...)
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Wow. You're not kidding about support. On the phone now with a guy at HTC and he was insisting that GPS was a service provided by my carrier and became rather belligerent when I suggested he was mistaken. What an idjit. I disabused him of his notion and we're still delving into this. I asked him to please confer with one of his colleagues. Stay tuned. This is getting more interesting.
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Ok, but is the core code and feature set the same? Is the "tasting" referring only the map size? IOW, if I were to buy the full US map, does Taster+ENTIREUSMAP=TT6? Or would I be missing something?
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Well I didn't program it so I can't say if the core programing is the same but from what I've seen it's just the fact that you don't have all the maps.
Taster tester...toMAYto toMAto - Quite sure that I am NOT wrong and that you will want to get the NAV6 full version. but - no worries. I think that you will also find (as others have) that TOMTOM tech support and HTC support on this issue are as useful as a third navel (the first navel was useless...) If you can purchase the full maps and have them work with the TASTER version - not sure about that - but you are going to pay for the full version of the maps the same as if you purchased the full version of the software including the maps - I think anyway.
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How was your first Naval useless, didn't you get fed in your moms belly? I'm sure that was useful.
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Taster tester...toMAYto toMAto - Quite sure that I am NOT wrong and that you will want to get the NAV6 full version... Personally - (I have not run any of Dutty's or other ROMs) the DEATH ROM rocks.
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Bill (and everyone), I have an update on the TomTom issue and some followup questions.
After speaking with both TomTom and HTC, it seems I was right, "Taster"+USMAP=TT6. Yes, you get some utilities like PC based map loaders and managers on disc if you buy the shrinkwrap version, but they're also downloadable from TomTom directly. The program itself really is TT6, and I verified as much because I've seen and used TT6 on my HX4700 previously.
Now, on to ROM upgrades.
I read the thread on SPL and ROMs. My hair huts. First, permit me to clarify a base assumption that may be incorrect. Bear with me, because I'm thinking out loud here.
My understanding of the primary purpose of 'cooked' ROMs is that they're an opportunity to have redacted software set, meaning that a smaller ROM = smaller RAM footprint, leaving more space for storage and operating memory which should conceivably enhance performance. Another benefit is having patches or driver updates loaded on the unit that are better than the OEM version.
I guess the things that I could do without are these below, but I'd welcome discussion on the relative merits of each:
- Getting Started (A bit late for this now!)
- SMS Service (Wouldn't FlexMail do just as well?)
- Windows Live (Do you really need this?)
- Voice Speed Dial (MS Voice Command instead?)
- File Explorer & Zip (Both these are handled by Virtual Explorer)
- Windows Update (If it worked, would we be here?)
Because I have so much already invested in PPC software, I tend to think that I'm better off with a very minimalistic ROM version and install what I want. Or am I misunderstanding the concept in thinking that a smaller ROM will return greater storage/runspace for programs?
I guess what I'm getting at, is that if the above things that I'd remove don't consume any appreciable space, then can I not achieve better perfornamce with only an upgraded SPL?
Help a dumb ol' boy out, here.
<scratching head>
Thanks!
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How was your first Naval useless, didn't you get fed in your moms belly? I'm sure that was useful.
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Naw - the UMBILICAL CORD was useful - the navel is totally useless - a SECOND one would be more so and a THIRD navel - well - 'nuff said!
Bill
BillTheCat said:
Bill (and everyone), I have an update on the TomTom issue and some followup questions.
After speaking with both TomTom and HTC, it seems I was right, "Taster"+USMAP=TT6. Yes, you get some utilities like PC based map loaders and managers on disc if you buy the shrinkwrap version, but they're also downloadable from TomTom directly. The program itself really is TT6, and I verified as much because I've seen and used TT6 on my HX4700 previously.
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So - to see if I understand -
The full package costs MORE THAN the taster plus the full maps?
Bill
whk said:
So - to see if I understand -
The full package costs MORE THAN the taster plus the full maps?
Bill
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Yes, because the 'taster' version is free, bundled with the phone. It's a common marketing strategy.
I'm sure you've seen it before with other software. Take the case of current PPC software - you get the trial version of 'x' backup program that limits you to 'y' meg of backup, but if you want the full version, just pay and get the registration code to unlock it. The code is the same, there's just a flag that limits it. In this case the limitation on function is simply the size of the map. With TomTom it's the MAP that's protected and requires an unlock code, not so much the program itself.
As I said, I've confirmed by installing the 'taster' version and using a sample map. Having used TomTom 6 on my HX4700 extensively I can tell you that there is nothing missing in this version here at all, except the size of the map. To obtain other maps, it looks like all one has to do is to (pay for and) download the map you need.
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Naw - the UMBILICAL CORD was useful - the navel is totally useless - a SECOND one would be more so and a THIRD navel - well - 'nuff said!
Bill
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dude that was the socket for the cord, if there was a second cord them maybe you would have gotten better food, etc etc.
This is a very worthless thread. lets argue about the taster, I already told you the dif about 6 posts ago.
Yes, because the 'taster' version is free, bundled with the phone. It's a common marketing strategy.
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It's a DEMO. Tom-Tom intends to sell you the working software if you like what you "taste" while using the demo. What is it that you don't understand regarding Tom-Tom, marketing strategies and how they apply to you?
Recently I checked out a program called FreeCaddie: A GPS program for golfers. Tried it cause they have a free version, which does plenty for me! I know that they pretty much have almost all the DFW area golf courses mapped and free to download.
Might be worth checking out if your a golfer! I know I love it!
http://freecaddie.com/
jchap2k
I like it
I used this last year - even built some courses for them. Works well, I really like it -so much that I bought the pro version - mainly only tells you how far to x bunker of dogleg, score/stat keeping, and can download courses on the fly.
Will
I just replaced the Tilt 2 with an Aria. So far I love it. Its WAY smoother and more stable then the windows mobile platforms ive been using for years now.
Ive been looking around and ive found everything I need (took me forever to figure out the linked contacts thing) except for a decent geocaching app. The tilt had GcZII by Nicque whic was fantastic. Anyone have any recommendations?
maverick pro seems like it's going to suit your needs very well. I've played around with it and it has a lot of features. I personally have never geocached yet so I can't be 100% certain, but I would have to say, that's what this program is more than likely made for. Oh and it worked awesome on the aria!
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maverick pro seems like it's going to suit your needs very well. I've played around with it and it has a lot of features. I personally have never geocached yet so I can't be 100% certain, but I would have to say, that's what this program is more than likely made for. Oh and it worked awesome on the aria!
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Did you happen to notice if it integrates with geocaching.com? Ill check it later on, just wondering.
It appears to have a lot to do with whether or not you are subscribed to geocaching premium. I'd love to see a breakdown of existing free and paid geocaching apps, but i don't have time to test them all myself. let me know if you find a good one.
Well, Ive been thinking of becoming a premium member. But GcZii worked SO well for free. I guess Ill just keep looking. Got swype working today, man does it make typing VASTLY easier.
I setup Geohunter last night. It's free. It integrates with Bcaching, which in turn integrates with geocaching.com. you can set up auto queries on geocaching.com which get sent to Bcaching. the app then syncs with Bcaching. it has a google maps view for seeign all in your area, details on specific cahces, and a compas screen to guide you. GeoBeagle is amost identicle, but i think made by the people from Bcaching.
geocaching
Hey I just wanted to let you know that I've been using a geocaching app called "c:geo" This app is frequently being updated and I have tried many many apps and found this one to be the best. You never have to leave the app, it is all self contained. Hope it helps!
Thanks for the c:geo tip. I already like it way better than the previous tip.
Looked at cgeo, not overly impressed. It requires you to jump between programs. the direct integration with geocaching.com is nice, but it's clunky to get to navigation. Geohunter lets you jump from list to map to compass to cache details all within the program. The linking process with the website is a little convoluted, but works well when set up. Just my opinion.
Played around with c:geo today. Lots of crashes from the live map. But altogether usable. I would give it 3 out of 5 for being free.
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I've tried a bunch.. Geohunter, Geobeagle, c:geo, Cachemate, and the winner is GeOrg.
It has a bcaching connector or can parse GPX files insanely fast.. And if you have the SDK up, you can even compile his unofficial geocaching connector, but it's not quite kosher so he doesn't provide it in binary form.
It's an awesome program, has a lot of function and works great. He's real responsible to feedback, even working on adding the ability to use a Bluetooth GPS to it.
c:geo is okay, but it's very slow to load up "nearby" caches, takes forever to save those caches, has no facility to return to the last list of caches (!?!), and turns up the brightness to 100% with black-on-white screen for the compass, which is impossible to use at night. Otherwise, I keep it around in case I'm "off the grid" and don't have PQ's for where I am.
I use a combination of GeOrg (preferred) and the "official" geocaching app from groundspeak. Both are paid apps.
Of the two, GeOrg is my favourite if I'm within the areas that my pocket queries cover. The native geocaching app makes it easier to just search and go if I'm outside of those areas, plus lets me log directly on the site instead of via field notes.
The free ones had various issues and quirks that I didn't care to learn how to work around.
Hello everyone!
We have just released our first Honeycomb application, called HoneyReader. Its a google reader client made for big screens, not just looking like another email client. This app takes inspiration from newspapers in its layout.
If you feel like it, please try it and send us ideas ([email protected]) on future updates. We want to make the best, most customizable google reader client ever.
Upcoming features
- Automatic updating (background)
- widget
- Different fonts
- Additional color schemes
- more size columns to fit different #s in landscape
- Show unread count in column headers
- Ability to show uncategorized feeds in one column
Thanks goes out to DroidHam and mcramer19 for the great ideas
UPDATE 1.2.3
- SPLASHSCREEN - When a new user starts the app, a splashscreen is displayed
- NEW OPTION - Read on scroll-past
- NEW MENU - Read all on tag
- Improved synchronization
- Improved read synchronization
- Fixed image bug
- Fixed synchronization bugs
UPDATE 1.2 - New version released
- Updated maximum number of news to 1000
- Enabled "reading" of articles with sync to Google reader
- Fixed image caching issues
- Read news now shows as grey
- Fixed image proportion issues
- Updated the colors
UPDATE 1.1
- New version released with integrated google credentials support
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWrHqblPfHE
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.westart.apps.honeyreader
Many thanks in advance,
Christoffer
too bad no lite version to try it.. :-(.. skip it .. screen shoot does look nice..
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Hello everyone!
We have just released our first Honeycomb application, called HoneyReader. Its a google reader client made for big screens, not just looking like another email client. This app takes inspiration from newspapers in its layout.
If you feel like it, please try it and send us ideas ([email protected]) on future updates. We want to make the best, most customizable google reader client ever.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.westart.apps.honeyreader
Many thanks in advance,
Christoffer
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looks nice, but why aren't you using http://developer.android.com/reference/android/accounts/AccountManager.html ?
Asking for login/pass with internet permissions will be suspicious to many users, especially when it's unnecessary for what you're doing.
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looks nice, but why aren't you using http://developer.android.com/reference/android/accounts/AccountManager.html ?
Asking for login/pass with internet permissions will be suspicious to many users, especially when it's unnecessary for what you're doing.
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Very good idea, it will be included in the next version.
Ya I was just about to say that lol
Looks Great
So wanted to purchase this app...please implement user/password feature as stated above. Then I will buy it...kinda creepy as is having to input my info atm
Looks nice, though as ZanshinG1 pointed out, Account Manager would be a much better way of using the Google account.
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looks nice, but why aren't you using http://developer.android.com/reference/android/accounts/AccountManager.html ?
Asking for login/pass with internet permissions will be suspicious to many users, especially when it's unnecessary for what you're doing.
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Looks sweet!.. like others have mentioned once user /pw is added ill purchase it too
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Better than Newsr? How does it compare?
I quite like the look of this, but I'm really loathe to buy a Reader app when it's only a matter of time until Google themselves release one that's optimized for tablets. I haven't bought Newsr for the same reason.
If you release an ad supported version then I'd jump all over it.
We just released version 1.1 with integrated credentials support - enjoy!
Again, thanks for the input
Noiz said:
I quite like the look of this, but I'm really loathe to buy a Reader app when it's only a matter of time until Google themselves release one that's optimized for tablets. I haven't bought Newsr for the same reason.
If you release an ad supported version then I'd jump all over it.
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Maybe we will release an ad version. But we would rather not bloat the interface with ads. I dont think google will release a good reader app for tablets, the browser one is no good and the one for phones isnt really great either in my opinion. Thats why we thought of doing one that looks the way we want for our selves..
How do things get marked as read? When you scroll down or? That's crucial for me. And when you mark them as read do they go away?
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How do things get marked as read? When you scroll down or? That's crucial for me. And when you mark them as read do they go away?
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Would like to know this too......
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I'll bite.
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How do things get marked as read? When you scroll down or? That's crucial for me. And when you mark them as read do they go away?
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As it works now, the news wont get marked as read. When you sync it purges the news and downloads new news. So you can decide, tell us how you want it and we will make it work like that.
Newsr is a small investment and very good. Actively developed. Even if Google releases its own Reader app that you prefer, you will have gotten your money's worth. What I really want is a scrollable Reader widget which allows me to select which feed or label I want in the widget.
I like the look of this Honey Reader. When it sorts out the login Account Manager issue, I'll give it a whirl. Price is fair, too. I think people forget they can still do 15 minute try and return for no cost if they want. It's important that we support a development community for Droid if we want it to become as robust as Apple's.
Edit: just realized the account manager issue is resolved. Off to try this now.
RoryPG said:
Newsr is a small investment and very good. Actively developed. Even if Google releases its own Reader app that you prefer, you will have gotten your money's worth. What I really want is a scrollable Reader widget which allows me to select which feed or label I want in the widget.
I like the look of this Honey Reader. When it sorts out the login Account Manager issue, I'll give it a whirl. Price is fair, too. I think people forget they can still do 15 minute try and return for no cost if they want. It's important that we support a development community for Droid if we want it to become as robust as Apple's.
Edit: just realized the account manager issue is resolved. Off to try this now.
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Enjoy, I will try to fix the widget for you
png6: Great looking app, especially after you've taken care of the login issue. If you create a free ad-sponsored version, I will write about it on the XDA main page.
(Just toss me a PM if you decide to do that, please.)
Tried it. Great potential. 100 max items is not usable for me. I have wayyyyy too many labels.
Hello Nooksters,
The summer is almost over and I'm about to go into 6th grade. I want to use the Nook for replacing some old-fashioned things (calculator, notebook, scratch paper, etc). Also, I want to read books on it (D'oh) So basically I want to optimize the Nook Color for use at school. The only thing I know for a fact is which ROM I'm gonna use. Which is MIUI. So here is the list that sums up the thread:
What is the best calculator app?
What is the best app to use as a notebook and which stylus should I use to tale notes with the app? This one is the biggy. I need the best Stylus for writing.
What is the best app to read books? (I'm thinking Aldiko Premium.)
What is the best OC settings to not have the NC's battery die?
Any other suggestions to make the Nook awesome?
Sorry if my post is hard to understand. I was in a rush writing this....
Thanks!
ikingblack said:
Hello Nooksters,
The summer is almost over and I'm about to go into 6th grade. I want to use the Nook for replacing some old-fashioned things (calculator, notebook, scratch paper, etc). Also, I want to read books on it (D'oh) So basically I want to optimize the Nook Color for use at school. The only thing I know for a fact is which ROM I'm gonna use. Which is MIUI. So here is the list that sums up the thread:
What is the best calculator app?
What is the best app to use as a notebook and which stylus should I use to tale notes with the app? This one is the biggy. I need the best Stylus for writing.
What is the best app to read books? (I'm thinking Aldiko Premium.)
What is the best OC settings to not have the NC's battery die?
Any other suggestions to make the Nook awesome?
Sorry if my post is hard to understand. I was in a rush writing this....
Thanks!
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Wow 6th grade! As a college student who is planning on using the nook for school, I too would like to know some suggestions.
As for books, the normal aldiko works great for me. I don't think premium has any real big additions to it.
Oc settings will differ, so place around with them now to get a feel for it now.
Sent from my B&N Nook Color
I like the Notion Ink calculator if you're thinking you need a scientific calculator.
I have yet to use a stylus on a capacitive screen so I have no idea.
Aldiko seems to be pretty good.
Ezpdf and docs2go have been a big help to me. The docs2go powerpoint viewer works beautifully in landscape. I use jorte as my calendar/scheduler/to do list. It syncs with google calendar and tasks.
I'll have to check out that calculator.
Impressed that you guys are looking into this technology (6th Grade and checking out XDA). I remember when I tried looking at this for my university studies on the old Windows Mobile 6.x platform. Technology has come a long way but not seen 'decent' stylus notetaking capabilities. I got my wife a stylus for the iPad and even that did not allow real notetaking. Used on the nook and was even worse.
An alternative suggestion (especially for apps) is to use Thumb Keyboard. I have used this to quickly write up information and the keyboard layout, especially in landscape, makes for easier typing. Marry this with Dropbox and Documents2Go and you have all your notes, presentation files, reader and spreadsheet capabilities. I understand these are paid apps (except for Dropbox) but these are good tools to have for anyone with info on the go. Also great to start notes on tablet, then finish off report/presentation on a laptop.
I think Google Apps has everything you need in terms of calendar/email/tasks to keep you on track. I don't have any suggestions as far as calculator apps go but spreadsheets will be the way you will likely end up (you do need to know the basics and be able to calculate by hand but spreadsheets are the way to go).
I really think the Nook (tablets in general) are best used for viewing information at the moment but am keen to see where technology goes in the future so was interested in your thread (so Thanks).
Thanks for all the replies, heres what I got:
Targus Stylus w/ Handrite to take notes
Aldiko Premium (already had it)
I grabbed Notion Ink's Calculator app, works awesomely, saved me from buying a new calculator!
Fooled around and decided to settle with 1.1 GHz on Powersave governor in class, 1.2 GHz w/ performance at recess.
I got QuickOffice HD so I can make Documents, will try out the other apps suggested though.
Once again, thanks for everything guys!
Update: Install Jorte. Works awesome! Thank you!
Notion Ink's Calc app no longer works anymore. I re installed and wiped data and stuff. So no go. Is there any other good-looking scientific calculator out there? Thanks.
Over Docs2Go, I picked QuickOffice HD like I said. It can make + read Word, Powerpoint, and Excel. Pretty nice.
Droid48, HP 48GX, best calculator ever made. You'll never run out of things you can do on it, and on the NC's screen it's gorgeous and fast.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/droid48/org.ab.x48
Back when I was in college a million years ago I used it to keep notes on, track assignments and grades, wrote a dozen little nifty utilities to do random things for engineering school, etc.
Of course most of that you'd do in the NC directly these days, but there's a million tools out there for the HP48 if you're doing algebra, calculus, engineering, etc.. http://www.hpcalc.org/
I don't know how many times ALG48 (serious Algebra tools) and QPI (reduces number, such as 3.333333 = 10/3, or 1.25663706144 = (2/5)*pi )
Dont forget Wolframalpha. It requires a wireless link. Its more for a high school or college student.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium App
I think I'll stick with SOWGcalc. Thanks though. Anything else I can do?
Realcalc is a great scientific calculator
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Will check out....
Edit: Works well, but kinda hate the UI.
Don't waste your time looking for a stylus. The Nook screen does not respond to capacitive styluses well at all. I cannot be used for note taking that way. If you need to take notes with a stylus you're going to have to drop $580 for an HTC Flyer.
Just grabbed the Targus stylus... work pretty nice. It won't be a hardcore notebook, but it works. And the Flyer is know only $500 @ best buy., Magic Pen included. Whoop de doodle dim!
Download the new evernote app for tablets. Its in beta. It would work good for typed notetaking.
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Alright, I downloaded that. Works nice! Thanks!
What about a small fold up or roll up bluetooth keyboard?
ikingblack, I know you said you've already gone with (and paid for) QuickOffice HD because it can create Word, Excel, and Powerpoint files but for other users info I want to point out that Documents2Go can also do all those in old and new document formats (.doc and .docx for example). It also includes a pdf viewer but ezpdf is better since it can reflow text and place multiple named bookmarks.
I'm interested in hearing about your experience taking notes with the stylus. Can it keep up? I can't help but think a keyboard would be faster but I haven't tried. It would certainly be very convenient for math to use a stylus but does handrite allow symbol and diagram input?
I actually had tried a bluetooth keyboard on my old iPaq (yes, that is HP iPaq using windows mobile 6.1). Just not as instantaneous and took up space. Remember, note taking is quick and instantaneous. I know the tech has come along way but don't underestimate the time it takes to bring out the keyboard, unfold, pair, etc., you would have lost the thought. This was always my problem which stopped me from using it. Just look around at how many people are using fold up keyboards as there primary input device. I'm struggling here to remember seeing any fold out keyboards compared to laptops or iPads.
I had a fold out IR keyboard for my Palm PDA years ago. Besides the keys being recessed into the case itself, making typing the Space key a pain, the alignment of the IR sensor and the battery seemingly always being dead.... Makes me cringe thinking about external keyboards.
I'd think they've gotten better. I actually saw someone with a better version doing the same thing taking notes in some classes, but I guess I went cheap. But I've never tried to take notes in class electronically, as I'm a tactile learner I suppose. Plus if I write the notes then transcribe them electronically it gives my cinder-block brain two attempts to learn it.
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ikingblack, I know you said you've already gone with (and paid for) QuickOffice HD because it can create Word, Excel, and Powerpoint files but for other users info I want to point out that Documents2Go can also do all those in old and new document formats (.doc and .docx for example). It also includes a pdf viewer but ezpdf is better since it can reflow text and place multiple named bookmarks.
I'm interested in hearing about your experience taking notes with the stylus. Can it keep up? I can't help but think a keyboard would be faster but I haven't tried. It would certainly be very convenient for math to use a stylus but does handrite allow symbol and diagram input?
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Right. Other users might want to use Docs2Go, but I already paid for QuickOffice HD. The Stylus cannot be used for full and hardcore note taking, but neither can the Flyer's Magic Pen. It is for simple scratch paper when you don't want to get up and get some. I am very happy with my stylus, it performs better then I expected. I don't need a BlueTooth Keyboard, I doubt the teacher would let me use it in class. The new TouchPal beta is great for me. All in all, I recommend this for school:
1 Targus Stylus for iPad (DO NOT get the one for tablet, it doesn't work well)
1 Nook Color (duh)
1 Copy of either QuickOffice HD, or Documents2Go + EZPDF
1 Copy of Handrite free from the Market
1 Copy of Jorte, for task management.
1 Copy of SOWGcalc (awesome UI, but not to advanced. Good for simple calculations.) and RealCalc, for more scientific stuff.
That's it. I am sure school will be great when it starts in 2 weeks with all of this stuff.