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Anyway to schedule disconnect 3G/GPRS Data connection?

Hi,
Don't know if anyone else is experiancing this but i have activesync push email active and set to "as items arrive" and my peak times set up. When the end of day peak time comes round the mail stops syncing which is by design and cool but the 3G/GPRS data conection stays active (small icon on the signal bars). I have searched around but found nothing, basically i want to schedule the data connection to disconnect at the end of the day, and actually kill the open 3G connection...
Any ideas...?
I've looked at a few bits of software but currently it seems that all thats on offer is disconnect after x mins of inactivity or just disconnect after x mins, this is not really what im after and also these settings kills the similtanious voice and data connection which i don't want either....
If not i may look at writing this myself....

Try commgr pro @ www.commmgrpro.com. It's a fantastic program.
RK

thanks for the suggestion, had another look around and this one is far the best and does exactly what i want it to do: (active sync been running allday/as items arrive via push email) stopping as per schedule in AS at 18:30 then at 18:35 kill/disconnect the gprs connection using this software via the device - #disconnect command, sweet
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?skschema/m_skschema.html

Hi _DrG_,
I totally agree with you about skschema . Its a great software that do just what i want, that is save my battery for example the night by deactivate the GSM (3G for Pushmail too).
Just a question: how do you deactivate only DataConnection but not GSM? Do you succeed in doing that? OR do you deactivate GSM so pushamil doesn't work ?
Thanks for your answer.

I'd use the reg file in this post I created earlier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355742

Some of the more popular Profile Switchers ... like Phone Weaver (and probably PhoneAlarm) can do this.
For example I have a Night profile that turns on at 11:30pm that mutes the alert volume, lowers the phone ringer, dims the screen, and shuts off Push Mail.
At 5:30am the Day profile kicks in and turns everything back on.
From a communications standpoint PhoneWeaver can control Wifi, Bluetooth, Phone Radio, Push email, Default Internet Connection, and the cellular data connection.
check it out.

I also use PhoneWeaver to do this - great little app which also puts my phone onto vibrate during meetings etc.

Media Net Disconnect Program
Hello, I found these two programs to manually connect and disconnect from your network. I love the DataConnector program because it only requires you to launch the program and it takes care of the rest. The DataDisconnect, on the other hand, requires you to launch the program, select the network you want to disconnect, then press disconnect. I am using WisbarAdvanceDesktop2 and would like to be able to write a script that will launch dataconnector, update the weather (or whatever else), and then launch datadisconnect. I am hoping that someone here knows of a hands-off program that only requires the single tap of the execution file to disconnect from the network, or who could hack the datadisconnect program and make it hands-off.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
khoury4
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khoury4 said:
Hello, I found these two programs to manually connect and disconnect from your network. I love the DataConnector program because it only requires you to launch the program and it takes care of the rest. The DataDisconnect, on the other hand, requires you to launch the program, select the network you want to disconnect, then press disconnect. I am using WisbarAdvanceDesktop2 and would like to be able to write a script that will launch dataconnector, update the weather (or whatever else), and then launch datadisconnect. I am hoping that someone here knows of a hands-off program that only requires the single tap of the execution file to disconnect from the network, or who could hack the datadisconnect program and make it hands-off.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
khoury4
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Hi,
maby an app i use it's exactly what you are looking for. With this app you can schedule everything about your connection: it allows you at what time your mobile data/wifi/flight mode must be turned on/off.
The name of the app is connection commander
Hope this help

Direct Push issues

Hi everyone
Have been using the Diamond for a few days now and have noticed a few quirks here and there. Mostly are software issues that I think will be ironed out in later releases of the ROM but for now there are a few issues that I was wondering if anyone else was having.
I have my own Exchange server running and have Direct Push/3G on constantly. The only issue is that sometimes i get the mail come through via Direct Push while sometimes it doesnt. In those situations I have to push "sync" in active sync for it to grab the new mails.
My settings are on "as item arrives" for both peak and offpeak and the status in active sync is shown as connected. This worked perfectly on my Trinity and Direct Push has never missed a beat once.
Anyone else experiencing similar issues?

The only time I ever experienced this is when O2 had a data outage in the UK yesterday. Other than that it has worked flawlessly.

Have my own exchange aswell, and haven't any problems so far !

Have you tried checking the peak times in the options for activesync?

not Diamond-related at all (since I don't have one yet) - but are you perhaps roaming networks sometimes?
had a customer with this issue and there is an extra option 'sync when roaming' (at least in WM5) - syncing manually worked in other networks without option enabled

HKC\Software\HTC\Manila:
PushMailOn : default value is "0" ( OFF)
PLease chech this value in your registry. I wonder if this settings might affect push mail avaiability for you.
I would set to "1" and soft reset to confirm.

I have the problem also! I had no problems with a TyTN II being used on the same Exchange server, but the diamond has a mind of it's own.

The peak time is on the default 8am to 8pm and reverse for off peak. But I dont think this affects it since I have it on "as item arrives" for both.
I dont have "use above settings when roaming" ticked since I'm in a very well covered 3G zone. The "H" icon is constantly on where I am.
I havent tried the reg edit yet SecureGSM, thanx for the tip. I will try to isolate the problem and do that for a last resort.
Is your problem consistent or inconsistent vas79?
I have noticed something but not sure if my paranoia or what but I have a feeling the time size affects it. If you have it large at the default size the mail comes in fine. But when you minimise the time to see more calendar items, the mail does not direct push. I'm still testing this so i'll post result after a few days of use in both.

Well it consistently doesn't work!
I very rarely hear the email alert when the phone is in standby. When I turn the phone on a unlock no email then within 10 seconds email will come in and get the little icon by the Mail saying how many new emails.
Alternatively I'd go to Activesync and it would say last sync'd at XXX rather than connected. I then select Sync which it does then it stays connected until next time.
If I go to the comm manger it says Direct Push is on and Data Connection on.
I can live with it, because i assume it's a bug and it will get fixed!..
My major gripe is it doesn't ring straight away, takes 3/4 rings to get going and ring. I have missed so many calls because of this!

i have been using Diamond with Exchange Server 2007 pushmail via GPRS since 1st June. There is no problem so far.
I am using BlackBerry at the same time. Basically pushmail arrives later than blackberry for 1.5 secs, I am sure all mails can be arrived to my Diamond in these 2 weeks.

vas79 said:
Well it consistently doesn't work!
I very rarely hear the email alert when the phone is in standby. When I turn the phone on a unlock no email then within 10 seconds email will come in and get the little icon by the Mail saying how many new emails.
Alternatively I'd go to Activesync and it would say last sync'd at XXX rather than connected. I then select Sync which it does then it stays connected until next time.
If I go to the comm manger it says Direct Push is on and Data Connection on.
I can live with it, because i assume it's a bug and it will get fixed!..
My major gripe is it doesn't ring straight away, takes 3/4 rings to get going and ring. I have missed so many calls because of this!
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hmmm ok, seems like you have a different problem to me. Mine actually says "connected" but mail just doesnt get pushed out or rather Diamond doesnt get the message. Have you made sure that you have "as item arrives" in the schedule (in activesync) for both peak and off peak?

yuhaohuang said:
hmmm ok, seems like you have a different problem to me. Mine actually says "connected" but mail just doesnt get pushed out or rather Diamond doesnt get the message. Have you made sure that you have "as item arrives" in the schedule (in activesync) for both peak and off peak?
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Yep, everything says "as item arrives" also tried ticking even when roaming, when i'm not!!
Actually today it has said connected everytime I've checked!
Only thing I changed yesterday was one of the registry tweaks to improve touchflo 3d performance.
When the UK rom drops and we can load it I will see then!

UK Rom here and seeing exactly the same issues!

Mine has been working fine too...

How does push mail really work?

Hi!
I have tried to wrap my head around this but have not succeded yet. I think I have the system actually set up and working. I have push mail on in the comm manager and I have set up our exchange server in activesync. Mail seems to arrive in the phone from time to time so I guess it works. My question is more about how it works.
I am using the spb GPRS monitor so I see there is traffic beeing logged. In the sync settings it is set to "when items arrive" (I have swedish language but I think the english says something similar). Does the phone go out and log into the mailserver and checks for mail? This hardly seems like "push" email.
If thats not how it works, how does the mailserver send the email to my phone - more true to the meaning of "push".
If someone savvy in the subject took some time to explain I would be very happy

essentially you keep a connection open constantly to your email server and as soon as the server gets new messages the client (your mobile phone in this case) is notified and downloads the email. its quite battery intensive since the phone has to keep a data connection with the server at all times.
for a complete explanation read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_email

Ok I see, I am like a normal Outlook client logged in at all times. Its clearer now.
In regards to the battery drain, what does drain more, 3G or Edge connection?

Great tip thanks

Another quick question - since it uses EDGE when getting email, what happens when I enter and log into a WiFi network. Does it abandon EDGE in favour for the, mostly, free WiFi internet thus saving me money?

Pull email, conserve battery

Is there any way to schedule email pulling at time intervals without it leaving GPRS, 3G &c on at all times?.Surely a simple routine could switch data connection on and off as needed to conserve power.

You can select how long a connection disconnects after being idle in Advanced Config
For example, mine is set to 5 minutes

Where is that found in adv.config?

simcarloc said:
Where is that found in adv.config?
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when you open Adv. Config...click on the menu button on the bottom from the screen and select more....connections....that will give you the option to select the time to disconnect after a short period of time....
good luck

Thanks! So to confirm, this setting would change when the connection is closed after it becomes idle. So it will not prevent push e-mail from working?

simcarloc said:
Thanks! So to confirm, this setting would change when the connection is closed after it becomes idle. So it will not prevent push e-mail from working?
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yes it will prevent push email from working (actually it won't but it will keep reconnecting)
push email maintains a heartbeat with your exchange server and if there is no connection this heartbeat will reconnect.
If you set activesync to pull email every 30 mins say and use adv conf to discon after 5 mins then you will be disconnected 25 minutes of the time. In my experience though unless the pull interval is 60mins or more it doesnt make much difference to data and you might as well have push enabled

simcarloc said:
Thanks! So to confirm, this setting would change when the connection is closed after it becomes idle. So it will not prevent push e-mail from working?
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There is a big difference between PUSH mail and PULL mail....Push mail relies on an open and active connection 24/7 otherwise you won't receive messages as soon as they arrive.
Pull mial is like pop3 and checks the mail server at regular intervals, say 5 or 10 or 20 minutes and after that it closes the connection.

Ok, got it. So I have pull mail whereby my mail server is checked every 15 mins, so the adv. config will not interfere then I presume.
How do you get push e-mail set up - is this the default setting where the connection is never closed?

simcarloc said:
Ok, got it. So I have pull mail whereby my mail server is checked every 15 mins, so the adv. config will not interfere then I presume.
How do you get push e-mail set up - is this the default setting where the connection is never closed?
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Q1: I don't know, I don't use pull mial. I use pushmail
Q2: In order to use pushmail, you need an exchange 2003 sp2 or exchange 2007 server and an account of course on that mail server. No it's not the default setting. You can choose between several intervals. Push mail only has got one extra option and that is When items arrive, which means as soon as your exchange server receives an email message, it will be pushed directly to your diamond.
Also, Push mail on a diamond (and other devices that support push mail) relies on a kind of heartbeat. It sends a signal on a regular basis to your exchange server to notify that it's online and able to receive mail. According to Microsoft this heartbeat signal is about 1MB of data a month.

Please be careful with your pull interval.
The actual emails you receive will involve the same amount over data whether you push or pull...
BUT...
constantly connecting and checking for email (pull) generates traffic, even if there is no email to collect. So if your interval is too short you could very easily end up using more than the push heartbeat.

When a connection is made via pull-mail, how long does it take for the connection to close with default settings?
In other words, is using the adv. config tool to define when the connection should be closed when idle worth it?
Am a little confused,lol.

*bump, anyone?*

flykthewiz said:
Please be careful with your pull interval.
The actual emails you receive will involve the same amount over data whether you push or pull...
BUT...
constantly connecting and checking for email (pull) generates traffic, even if there is no email to collect. So if your interval is too short you could very easily end up using more than the push heartbeat.
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Not quite true. Every time you get a push email, you have to go through the authentication dance. If you get 10 emails pushed in the same time frame as one pull, then the push will have had 10 authentications where as the pull will only have one. Also, depending on the setup (I use intellisync with Lotus Notes so can't vouch for push with exchange), if you read the emails on your device, this may get pushed from the device back to the server every time. So 10 emails received and opened on push could effectively have 20 different handshakes and authentications, where as pull will only have the one. However, the advantage of push is that if you receive an important/urgent email - then you get it within minutes and not hours.
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Instant Messenger clients always disconnecting, please help

Does anyone know exactly what is causing this problem because it continues to happen across different ROMs and different Radios. Is there some fundamental reason why the X1 can't maintain a connection with IM clients?
I'm on T-mobile in the UK and running the valkyrie_V3 WWE ROM. Windows live messenger will disconnect if i put the phone into standby for as little as a minute and sometimes even when I'm in the middle of messaging. I keep getting messages saying "wireless connection not available trying to reconnect" or something similar.
I've tried IM+ and while that doesn't give disconnection messages it's doing the same thing as i have tested it using different accounts.
I can't get ebuddy working on this ROM because it won't let me enter the password for some odd reason but that has had the same problem with other ROMS in the past.
Has anyone found a solution to this or is it something to do with T-mobile settings?
I should point out that throughout all this i maintain a good signal of at least 2 bars and according to the phone the data connection hasn't dropped.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks.

i used to use AOL's own mobile-based IM/chat client for AIM, and it always kept me connected without problems no matter what. only problem was it was INSANELY slow.
i've switched to slick, which i'm not crazy about, and i'm having the same problems as you. i'll randomly get disconnected with the phone sitting with full HSDPA reception, not going into sleep or standby....i thought it was just slick's crappy programming

Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.

i too have the same problem, we need the xda gurus to fix this, hopefully they would be able to do so in the near future

Solaris81 said:
Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
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pretty sure it was connected constantly. i had some pretty lengthy text sessions and i never got any error messages (IM not received, user not on, signed off, etc). i mean, i can never be 100% sure, but pretty sure. i only used it fo ra couple weeks before getting rid of it, it was creeping death slow for some reason

I'm too really desperate for a solution to this problem. My device is a HTC Touch Pro2 running Windows Mobile 6.5.
The case is that I will launch a new business site in just a few weeks whos customers are for the biggest part young intellectuals more often than seldomly really integrated with the modern IT-development. Hence I've always wanted to add the Windows Live messenger plugin to the site so that our customers can have a live chat completly anonymously without having their IP traced and logged which is the case for the markets paid services. Furthermore, the msn live plugin is completly ad free and doesn't cost a penny. The paid services out there that other corporations use for their live chat often comes with an URL to the host even though the customer are paying for their live chat module. The most important part though, is that I can bring with me Windows Live Messenger wherever I go which for the most part is a complex and not even that usual solution in the paid service segment. I think you can understand my problem now =) I'm just desperate to have my live messenger in the phone ALWAYS and ALWAYS stay connected.
For an example of the plugin I'm refering too have a look at my personal website:
martinandersson.com
A little more specific information describing what really happens with my device:
Windows Live version: 10.7.0061.0500.2000. Language: Swedish (Also the language of my OS).
I am running the client non-exclusivly. It always stays in the taskbar and never quit on me unlike what happens to programs that stay open running in the background for a longer period of time. In that way, it works great.
The main Windows Live window's (which are displayed and runned as a seperate program) options/settings are set to sync my e-mail although the frequency are set to "manual" and the other options below this drop box are for some reason greyed out. I guess this has to be interpreted as if live doesn't sync my mail at all, which I like being that I do not have an hotmail account or need this feature in any way.
The status of my phone always always show two small 3G icons (one just '3G' and one '3G' above a meter) and if I click in this field I see a ticking clock which shows that it is indeed connected to internet ever since my phone's last reboot. This has never been in any other way. Still, I did download the DiamondTweak and enabled the "internet always on" feature, but again, I do not think that really was the issue and from what I can tell, the DiamondTweak just hasn't made any difference at all.
One detail of great importance is this; Whenever I browse the internet, update my rss feeds or switch to the messenger contact list window through the taskbar, the 3G symbols changes to display an H. That tells me that this "H" must show for the phone to have a "real" internet connection? Could this be the trick, one has to find a fix to always have the H show? If that would be the case, I just can't understand why the phone says it is indeed connected to the internet when there's just a 3G-symbol in the status. Anyways..
Even though the messenger dies completly and just as what this threads owner wrote, shows a "wireless connection lost" message when I swich to its contact list window, it sometimes live for quite a while. The thing is that it just doesn't get the message instantly. The phone can be in standby mode (really haven't figured that thing out, everybody keeps saying "standby" mode but for what I can tell all that happens is that the display goes of) for sure, and then I write myself a message through the live chat plugin on my site but it takes about 6 to 10 minutes for the phone to give a sound and notice me of this message. And again, for the most part the live messenger doesn't stay alive for that long, the sites plugin goes offline and then if I turn the phone's display on and access the live messenger it says that the wireless connection has been lost and reconnects.
Moreoever, it never gets my plugin to go back online either. For that part to happen, I have to first get online with a desktop client and then again login with my phone. For if I stay online with the desktop client, the phone's client is indeed alive, but won't receive any messages. I have to reconnect with my phone so that my desktop client gets thrown out. But of course, is just a matter of time before my live chat module and my phone's client gets offline and I have to do everything over again. The really annoying part is that the phone's client dies a long time before the site's plugin catch up and goes offline. Hence I might loose a lot of customers who think they are chatting with me but never get a reply.
Given the description above, I think the problem really is that live messenger doesn't ping or talk with its server that often, IF the phone is in standby mode. If it isn't, if the display is turned on, I recieve my messages instantly and everything works just fine. Sure there must be an easy fix for this problem, a small edit to be done in a config file somewhere?
All help and all problem experience is much appreciated.